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Dogman
14th September 2011, 10:02 AM
Just a heads up, no video of the show yet! Posting just for info only!

Dr. Oz and FDA square off


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CTVNews.ca Staff

Date: Wednesday Sep. 14, 2011 11:43 AM ET

Television medical expert, Dr. Mehmet Oz, is embroiled in a sticky dispute with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration about arsenic and whether dangerous levels of the toxin can be found in some popular brands of apple juice.

"The Dr. Oz Show" is planning to air a segment Wednesday about arsenic in apple juice that promises to leave parents stunned, calling it "the most shocking investigation in Dr. Oz show history."

The show says it commissioned testing on five popular brands of apple juice and found "significant levels" of arsenic in several brands.

Dr. Oz, a two-time Emmy Award winner says even he was shocked by the results.

"As a doctor and a parent, it's concerning to me that there could be toxins such as arsenic in juice we are giving to our kids," he said in a news release promoting the episode, which airs in Canada on CTV.

The FDA has already launched a counter-attack before the episode airs. In a statement issued Tuesday afternoon, the FDA essentially says that yes, there is some arsenic in apple juice, but most of it occurs naturally and the amounts are perfectly safe.

The FDA notes that arsenic is present in the environment and many foods, both as a naturally occurring substance and from pollution. It notes there are two kinds: organic arsenic and inorganic. The organic form is essentially harmless, it says.

While inorganic arsenic can be harmful at high and long-term levels of exposure, the FDA says it's been testing fruit juices for years and "there is no evidence of any public health risk from drinking the juices."

But "The Dr. Oz Show" show says in the 33 samples of five brands of apple juice it tested, some showed arsenic levels that exceed the federal level set by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for drinking water. It says 10 samples exceeded the limit of 10 parts per billion set by the EPA for drinking water.

It also says one sample exceeded the "level of concern" set by the FDA for fruit juice, which is set somewhat higher, at 23 ppb.

Organic or inorganic arsenic?

The FDA counters that testing for overall arsenic is a poor testing method because it cannot distinguish between organic and inorganic arsenic.

In a letter sent to the show last week, the FDA explained that its own tests go one step further.

"The FDA typically tests juice samples for total arsenic first, because this test is rapid, accurate and cost effective. When total arsenic testing shows that a fruit juice sample has total arsenic in an amount greater than 23 parts per billion (ppb), we re-test the sample for its inorganic arsenic content," the agency says in its letters to the show's producers.

"The vast majority of samples we have tested for total arsenic have less than 23 ppb. We consider the test results for inorganic arsenic on a case-by-case basis and take regulatory action as appropriate."

The FDA goes on to say that it believes that it would be "irresponsible and misleading" for "The Dr. Oz Show" to suggest that apple juice contains unsafe amounts of arsenic based solely on tests for total arsenic.

The agency has posted its letters to the show on its website, as well as fact sheets about the safety of apple juice both on its website and its Facebook page.

Arsenic is a tasteless and odourless heavy metal that can increase the risk for kidney, bladder and liver cancer. According to Health Canada, inorganic arsenic is the most toxic to human health, while organic arsenic is considered to be non-toxic and t of concern to human health.

Low levels of arsenic may be found in a wide variety of foods and generally reflect normal accumulation from the environment.

The Juice Products Association, which represents the juice products industry in the U.S., says the "Dr. Oz Show" could "needlessly cause concern among consumers."

The group's toxicologist Gail Charnley notes the Dr. Oz testers did not use the FDA's approved test method for fruit juices.

"Not only are the results based upon the wrong test method, to compare the trace levels of arsenic in apple juice to the regulatory guidelines for drinking water is not appropriate. Regulatory agencies have set lower thresholds for drinking water than for food and other beverages because people consume larger amounts of water. Dr. Oz is not comparing apples to apples," she said in a statement.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Health/20110914/fda-apple-juice-oz-110914/

hoarder
14th September 2011, 12:23 PM
Television medical expert, Dr. Mehmet Oz,With all the toxic stuff like BPA, flouride, MSG etc.etc. in our food for years and the media has been silent and now a "TV Expert" is going to expose something? Methinks this is a case of "Look over here, not over there" to make the teevee addled masses think the media has our best health and interests at heart.

DMac
14th September 2011, 01:35 PM
With all the toxic stuff like BPA, flouride, MSG etc.etc. in our food for years and the media has been silent and now a "TV Expert" is going to expose something? Methinks this is a case of "Look over here, not over there" to make the teevee addled masses think the media has our best health and interests at heart.

Still no lamestream attempt to warn the sheep about flouride.

Old Herb Lady
14th September 2011, 09:50 PM
" Dr. Oz and FDA square off " ?????????????????????? Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Um, No, more like

" Dr. Oz & FDA in bed together "

(whispering in bed to each other) oh maymay, apple juice is sooo good for people & it can cure sooo many maladies, you gotta come up with
a really really good plan to keep people away from it , honey. Make it look & sound really, really bad & scare them to death.
We've already poisoned it & sprayed it to death, but we need your sweet ass to sweet talk them into staying away from apples !!! Only you can do it.

Maymay says ok, i gotta do it right AS APPLES ARE COMING INTO SEASON IN THE FALL. NO PROB.

PLUS HE OWNS 150,000 SHARES IN VACCINES (WORTH MILLIONS)

http://www.naturalnews.com/027451_vaccine_RealAge_technology.html




Arsenic & apples is OLD news........why is HE stirring the proverbial shit pot ? Wake up people.

http://www.slashfood.com/2010/03/19/apple-juice-contains-high-levels-arsenic/


shill/SHil/Noun: An accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic to entice or encourage others.

Dogman
14th September 2011, 09:52 PM
" Dr. Oz and FDA square off " ?????????????????????? Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Um, No, more like

" Dr. Oz & FDA in bed together "

(whispering in bed to each other) oh maymay, apple juice is sooo good for people & it can cure sooo many maladies, you gotta come up with
a really really good plan to keep people away from it , honey. Make it look & sound really, really bad & scare them to death.
We've already poisoned it & sprayed it to death, but we need your sweet ass to sweet talk them into staying away from apples !!! Only you can do it.

Maymay says ok, i gotta do it right AS APPLES ARE COMING INTO SEASON IN THE FALL. NO PROB.

PLUS HE OWNS 150,000 SHARES IN VACCINES (WORTH MILLIONS)

http://www.naturalnews.com/027451_vaccine_RealAge_technology.html




Arsenic & apples is OLD news........why is HE stirring the proverbial shit pot ? Wake up people.

http://www.slashfood.com/2010/03/19/apple-juice-contains-high-levels-arsenic/


shill/SHil/Noun: An accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic to entice or encourage others.Just posted for info, figured someone would take the bit and set things straight.

Kali
15th September 2011, 01:27 AM
He could have told people to make their own apple juice which is easy to do and so much healthier...but he didn't.

He said organic apple juice is fine which he tested at around 4 parts per billion arsenic.

He said that a minute after saying their should be NO arsenic in kids apple juice.

He was all over the place.

LastResort
15th September 2011, 05:40 AM
You shouldn't be drinking "popular" brands of AJ anyways. Full of sugar with no real nutritional value.

hoarder
16th September 2011, 11:00 AM
You shouldn't be drinking "popular" brands of AJ anyways. Full of sugar with no real nutritional value.All apple juice nowadays is cooked. One has to wonder what the legal definition of "juice" is. Is it any more difinitive than "soup"? Would you drink 100% pure soup not knowing what the hell is in it?
If the jar says "100% pure apple juice" does that mean there is nothing in it but apples? To bring this question to yet another level, what the hell is the definition of "concentrate"? If the jar is labeled "100% pure apple juice from concentrate", just exactly what is in it besides apples?

Joe King
16th September 2011, 12:52 PM
"Concentrate" is supposed to mean that it's had most of the water removed. "From concentrate" is supposed to mean that it has been re-constituted to its original state as juice of the apple by having added the same amount of water that had been previously removed in the concentration process.