My Visit to the Dentist Today - About Cavity Fillings

[Shami-Amourae]

So I got my first cavity I've ever had in my life. The dentist found a cavity in a recent teeth cleaning procedure, and rescheduled me for a cavity filling.

So before the process I asked what was inside of the fillings. The dental assistant I was dealing with came back after a few minutes with a printout which was written by some hack dentist claiming that Bisphenol-A was totally safe, and that people who believed different were quacks. I'm not kidding. I explained to the dental assistant that Bisphenol-A was a form of estrogen and linked to the feminization epidemic throughout the country. I even told her it was banned in Canada and I think she seemed a bit shocked after I said that.

I dunno if she believed me or thought I was crazy, so I asked if there were other options besides the ceramic/BPA type filing which was their default. She said the alternative was the old school mercury fillings. I asked if there was any other forms I could do. She said no. I asked her to double check with the dentist, so she reluctantly did so. She told me there was a 3rd option, which was a gold dental amalgam. I seem satisfied with that and said I would go with that, but they obviously don't have gold on hand since they told me only one person a year requests this.

So I scheduled an appointment to get a fitting for my tooth so they can send it out to a lab and get my custom gold filling. The price tag was high, but I'd rather have that than the Bisphenol-A or the Mercury filling.

Now I'm wondering, are there other options? Is the gold filling the right choice? I heard that gold isn't perfect either, but then what do I do?

[mamboni]

So I got my first cavity I've ever had in my life. The dentist found a cavity in a recent teeth cleaning procedure, and rescheduled me for a cavity filling.

So before the process I asked what was inside of the fillings. The dental assistant I was dealing with came back after a few minutes with a printout which was written by some hack dentist claiming that Bisphenol-A was totally safe, and that people who believed different were quacks. I'm not kidding. I explained to the dental assistant that Bisphenol-A was a form of estrogen and linked to the feminization epidemic throughout the country. I even told her it was banned in Canada and I think she seemed a bit shocked after I said that.

I dunno if she believed me or thought I was crazy, so I asked if there were other options besides the ceramic/BPA type filing which was their default. She said the alternative was the old school mercury fillings. I asked if there was any other forms I could do. She said no. I asked her to double check with the dentist, so she reluctantly did so. She told me there was a 3rd option, which was a gold dental amalgam. I seem satisfied with that and said I would go with that, but they obviously don't have gold on hand since they told me only one person a year requests this.

So I scheduled an appointment to get a fitting for my tooth so they can send it out to a lab and get my custom gold filling. The price tag was high, but I'd rather have that than the Bisphenol-A or the Mercury filling.

Now I'm wondering, are there other options? Is the gold filling the right choice? I heard that gold isn't perfect either, but then what do I do?

Does gold amalgam also contain mercury?

[Shami-Amourae]

They said it didn't have mercury. I did ask that. Apparently I'm going to go in to get an impression of my tooth, and they will send that to a lab, which will custom mold the gold it to my tooth. I think this is the old school procedure from 100+ years ago.

I'm really shocked only 1 person a year gets a Gold amalgam. They joking told me that it's more popular on the East Coast (Jews?).

[EE_]

I'd like to see information stating gold is less then perfect for dental work.
I have 4 gold crowns and swear by it.

[palani]

Dollars will get you donuts that beneath each of those gold crowns the dentist placed a silver amalgam (aka mercury time bomb).

[Shami-Amourae]

Well I honestly think it's kind of cool getting gold. I'm just worried it might be toxic in some way. I did read that if you have gold and mercury filings there's an electric reaction or something that makes the mercury leak even more than normal.

I do heavy metal detox here and there anyways, I just want to know if it's safe/smart.

Thanks for your input EE_.

[Shami-Amourae]

Dollars will get you donuts that beneath each of those gold crowns the dentist placed a silver amalgam (aka mercury time bomb).

So the gold fillings still have mercury? Now I'm confused. Maybe I should try to talk to the dentist himself about it, since I only talked to the aides.

[Shami-Amourae]

Found this:
http://americasholisticdentist.com/117/gold-fillings-safer-mercury-silver-fillings/

He says gold isn't safe either. I'm going to have to do some deep research into this to find a solution. Since of all the electrical signals moving through your body is supposedly messes up your brain he says.

[osoab]

Super glue and duct tape.

[muffin]

sounds like an inlay to me. gold is maleable. so it will be easier with chewing. it will wear with the opposing tooth. but it's also very conducive to temp. it might end up being pretty sensitive to extreme temps. watch out, though, they absolutely do mix it with other metals.

the dentist i used to work for did about 10 - 15 of these a year. very easy. almost like a partial crown. same procedure. they'll clean out the decay. take an impression (hardest part for most patients). then most likely put a temporary filling in there. you'll come back 7-10 days for placement of the final filling.

edit: found this "It is not completely pure but a mixture of gold, silver, platinum, copper, palladium, and zinc."

[hoarder]

Here's a Jewish Dentist in Canada that does ceramic fillings without BPA. If you're a goy he'll probably use BPA resin and tell you it's non-BPA though.

http://www.marketplacedentistry.ca/dentist/white-fillings#

"At Marketplace Dentistry, we only use white resin and ceramic fillings which are mercury-free and Bisphenol-A (BPA)-free."

http://www.marketplacedentistry.ca/dentist/?p=41

"Dr. Lewinger is an enthusiastic photographer, a technophile, and an avid traveller who speaks English and Hebrew fluently."

[EE_]

I've been reading about mercury amalgam and have found info to both sides of the arguement whether it is toxic enough to harm your health. It appears to be a controversy.
There is so much info out there today, that just about everything is bad for you.
Maybe we should be more worried about polutants in our environment, food and water.
I think people living in dense cities are at a higher risk from polution then those with mercury amalgam fillings.

[BrewTech]

They said it didn't have mercury. I did ask that. Apparently I'm going to go in to get an impression of my tooth, and they will send that to a lab, which will custom mold the gold it to my tooth. I think this is the old school procedure from 100+ years ago.

I'm really shocked only 1 person a year gets a Gold amalgam. They joking told me that it's more popular on the East Coast (Jews?).

My dentist informed me recently that it is indeed an old school procedure... I just had it done.

Toofs are bling!

[Shami-Amourae]

The porcelain fillings without the BPA sound the best. I'm thinking of calling up a few holistic dentists tomorrow and asking them.

[BrewTech]

The porcelain fillings without the BPA sound the best. I'm thinking of calling up a few holistic dentists tomorrow and asking them.

Are you local to me Shami? I know a dentist in SoCal that does good work, and is anti-poison.

[Shami-Amourae]

Are you local to me Shami? I know a dentist in SoCal that does good work, and is anti-poison.

Yeah I'm in SoCal. Any references in PMs would be helpful.

:)

[palani]

So the gold fillings still have mercury? Now I'm confused. Maybe I should try to talk to the dentist himself about it, since I only talked to the aides.
Don't think mercury and gold form amalgam but I don't know for sure. What dentists do is remove all the decay but then they have to have a surface that a crown can be "stuck" over. So after all the decay is out of there they pack in silver amalgam until they have a convex surface, or at least a surface that does not have lots of craters in it. They need smooth for a crown.

[EE_]

Here's an article to read. I can't comment on it's validity.

The "Mercury Toxicity" Scam: How Anti-Amalgamists Swindle People
Stephen Barrett, M.D.

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mercury.html

[hoarder]

Here's an article to read. I can't comment on it's validity.

The "Mercury Toxicity" Scam: How Anti-Amalgamists Swindle People
Stephen Barrett, M.D.

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mercury.htmlGuess who owns "quackwatch", LOL!

[Korbin Dallas]

Does gold amalgam also contain mercury?

A gold inlay, onlay or crown does not contain mercury, but may have platinum and/or palladium. I haven't heard of "gold amalgam" per se, but they may have meant gold in the form of and inlay.

[Korbin Dallas]

Dollars will get you donuts that beneath each of those gold crowns the dentist placed a silver amalgam (aka mercury time bomb).

An old amalgam in a tooth is usually the precursor to needing a crown. Reputable, non-lazy dentists will remove all of the old amalgam before placing a crown.

[Shami-Amourae]

Guess who owns "quackwatch", LOL!

It's owned by Big Pharma.

[EE_]

A gold inlay, onlay or crown does not contain mercury, but may have platinum and/or palladium. I haven't heard of "gold amalgam" per se, but they may have meant gold in the form of and inlay.

Bout time you showed up doc...tell us more! Am I safe having 4 gold crowns?
What is the best?

[Korbin Dallas]

Bout time you showed up doc...tell us more! Am I safe having 4 gold crowns?
What is the best?

After 21 years of this, I'm convinced that the best restorative is gold. Four crowns? your not only safe, it's real money in your mouth!

[EE_]

After 21 years of this, I'm convinced that the best restorative is gold. Four crowns? your not only safe, it's real money in your mouth!

They are beauties too. I always get complements when I go to a dentist, on the nice work that was done. I got three of them from a top notch dentist back east and one in California.

[Terry853]

No doubt they slip it in Mamboni. At least in the states.

[palani]

Am I safe having 4 gold crowns?
I had two gold crowns. The dentist very carefully filled the cavity with silver amalgam before taking a cast to have the crown made. Now they are ceramic with composite filling.

The thing with metal in the mouth (according to purists at least) is that any metal at all is going to interfere with the electrical fields used by the brain when it conducts its' activities.

[BrewTech]

The thing with metal in the mouth (according to purists at least) is that any metal at all is going to interfere with the electrical fields used by the brain when it conducts its' activities.

Is that what my problem is? I thought I was just dumb.

[Shami-Amourae]

The thing with metal in the mouth (according to purists at least) is that any metal at all is going to interfere with the electrical fields used by the brain when it conducts its' activities.

Yeah I'm concerned with that too. I don't know why this stuff isn't simple/safe.

[palani]

Is that what my problem is? I thought I was just dumb.

I used to work in the broadcast industry so knew quite a few engineers who spent their career hanging out below 50,000 watt transmitting antennas. None of them had extremely long life expectancies.

Another friend served on a minesweeper during the Viet Nam war. He was off doing something else when the ship was taken out to be degaussed. He has told me that none of that crew is alive any more.

Electrical fields and magnetic fields have an effect on the human body that have not been sufficiently defined.

[BrewTech]

I used to work in the broadcast industry so knew quite a few engineers who spent their career hanging out below 50,000 watt transmitting antennas. None of them had extremely long life expectancies.

Another friend served on a minesweeper during the Viet Nam war. He was off doing something else when the ship was taken out to be degaussed. He has told me that none of that crew is alive any more.

Electrical fields and magnetic fields have an effect on the human body that have not been sufficiently defined.

Totally agreed about magnetic fields. Pass a strong magnetic field through a conductor (or vice versa) and electrical current will flow through the conductor. That is obviously going to have an effect on the human body. Just how much of an effect, I don't know.

[lapis]

Now I'm wondering, are there other options? Is the gold filling the right choice? I heard that gold isn't perfect either, but then what do I do?

It depends on how big the cavity is.

If it's still small, you may be able to reverse the decay. Start taking vitamin D and a high-vitamin cod liver oil, like the one from Green Pasture. Follow the suggestions on the CureToothDecay.com, and get the book ASAP.

I would provide more info, but I'm writing this from my phone in bed.

[lapis]

Here's a good article:

Dr. Mellanby's Tooth Decay Reversal Diet

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/12/dr-mellanbys-tooth-decay-reversal-diet.html

[LastResort]

I've been reading about mercury amalgam and have found info to both sides of the arguement whether it is toxic enough to harm your health. It appears to be a controversy.
There is so much info out there today, that just about everything is bad for you.
Maybe we should be more worried about polutants in our environment, food and water.
I think people living in dense cities are at a higher risk from polution then those with mercury amalgam fillings.

Theres controversy if you believe in bullshit...

They are listed as a hazardous substance but its controversial if it's toxic enough to harm you....

My 3 are being replaced with bpa free ceramics before the summer. Wish I knew better when I was 13 and had them put there in the first place.

[Shami-Amourae]

The dentist told me it was a small cavity so I want to try this natural health reversal stuff first. I didn't even know I had a cavity since it didn't hurt at all. It still doesn't hurt now by the way.

I quit eating wheat a few years ago and most of my health improved. I haven't been sick once since I made that lifestyle change, but I still haven't gotten off sugar. That's my next goal starting today. I will consciously avoid sugar at all costs, and only use things like honey and stevia (leaf form, not the crystals.)

I'm reading up on all these ways to reverse it. I actually knew about this stuff from watching the film "The Beautiful Truth", but the subject was only touched on briefly and not explained in depth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq7w1EGc4u4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEx_fIi9PLA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5zsJYGIwGY

This guy's book has a really solid rating on Amazon. It looks pretty legit:
http://www.amazon.com/Cure-Tooth-Decay-Cavities-Nutrition/dp/1434810607/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1331733458&sr=8-3

[lapis]

This guy's book has a really solid rating on Amazon. It looks pretty legit:
http://www.amazon.com/Cure-Tooth-Decay-Cavities-Nutrition/dp/1434810607/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1331733458&sr=8-3

I like the Cure Tooth Decay book a lot. It is based on dentist and nutrition researcher Weston Price's findings, who is basically the only dentist to use diet to heal his patients' dental problems.

I highly recommend his book, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. You can also read it online:

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html

[Shami-Amourae]

I'm planning on doing this stuff soon. I already ordered fermented cod liver oil and grass fed butter oil. I plan on eating liver a lot when I get it. I have avoided sugar for almost an entire week (besides raw honey for allergies) now, and still going strong. I just eat an organic carrot whenever I have a desire for sweets, and it seems to help.

I've been gluten-free a few years, but I'm going to avoid all my gluten-free substitutes which are mainly made from rice/tapioca. I'll just avoid grains altogether.

I'll try to come up with some new information in a couple months and let people know how it went. My cavity is small so I should have a good chance of curing it if I follow the protocol close enough.

[lapis]

I'm planning on doing this stuff soon. I already ordered fermented cod liver oil and grass fed butter oil. I plan on eating liver a lot when I get it. I have avoided sugar for almost an entire week (besides raw honey for allergies) now, and still going strong. I just eat an organic carrot whenever I have a desire for sweets, and it seems to help.

I have been back to eliminating sugar yet again. I've never had any success before, but this time I started taking a capsule of a multi-mineral supplement several times a day along with spraying myself with magnesium "oil" (magnesium chloride seawater brine). Apart from a bad headache I got the first day, I've had no other symptoms, which is a first for me!

I've come to the conclusion that the cravings are really a mineral deficiency, at least for me. With all the magnesium I'm getting, I have absolutely no cravings for chocolate either.


I've been gluten-free a few years, but I'm going to avoid all my gluten-free substitutes which are mainly made from rice/tapioca. I'll just avoid grains altogether.Me too reluctantly! Last fall I tried to add grains back to my diet but gained so much weight so quickly that I had to cut them out again. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/cry.gif I have some coconut flour I can bake with just in case though.


I'll try to come up with some new information in a couple months and let people know how it went. My cavity is small so I should have a good chance of curing it if I follow the protocol close enough.

Yes please do let us know how you do!

[Book]

http://youtu.be/7FtVtOWEIL0

Dentistry in the 'Hood

[BrewTech]

Dollars will get you donuts that beneath each of those gold crowns the dentist placed a silver amalgam (aka mercury time bomb).

No, they don't. The gold comes in one piece formed to the area they are filling.

[palani]

No, they don't. The gold comes in one piece formed to the area they are filling.

A sliding slip fit requires no irregular shapes. The dentist shapes the outside of the tooth so that the crown fits perfectly. He fills any internal or external cavities to provide a surface that the crown may be molded to fit. Those internal cavities will be mercury fillings unless you specify otherwise.

[BrewTech]

A sliding slip fit requires no irregular shapes. The dentist shapes the outside of the tooth so that the crown fits perfectly. He fills any internal or external cavities to provide a surface that the crown may be molded to fit. Those internal cavities will be mercury fillings unless you specify otherwise.We aren't talking about crowns. We are talking about gold inlays... at least I thought we were.

[Glass]

A sliding slip fit requires no irregular shapes. The dentist shapes the outside of the tooth so that the crown fits perfectly. He fills any internal or external cavities to provide a surface that the crown may be molded to fit. Those internal cavities will be mercury fillings unless you specify otherwise.

Interesting. I've just had a crown break.... well I'm not sure what it was. The centre of the tooth is completely gone and just a rim is left. Mostly broken now. The filling could not have been complete so either there was something there when it was done which has disappeared or the filling was not made all the way down and there literally was a cavity underneath. I lifted this centre piece out and it contains 4 thin metal spikes(?) which seemed to form the anchor for the filling to what was left of the tooth. Anyway the cavity/hole is huge and deep. Goes way down into the jaw. now I need to find a new dentist and a plan. Been thinking gold filling/tooth. I think it would take an ounce, maybe even a bit more of the pure stuff.

[gunDriller]

Interesting. I've just had a crown break.... well I'm not sure what it was. The centre of the tooth is completely gone and just a rim is left. Mostly broken now. The filling could not have been complete so either there was something there when it was done which has disappeared or the filling was not made all the way down and there literally was a cavity underneath. I lifted this centre piece out and it contains 4 thin metal spikes(?) which seemed to form the anchor for the filling to what was left of the tooth. Anyway the cavity/hole is huge and deep. Goes way down into the jaw. now I need to find a new dentist and a plan. Been thinking gold filling/tooth. I think it would take an ounce, maybe even a bit more of the pure stuff.


you are talking about it quite dispassionately.

doesn't it hurt ?

[Glass]

you are talking about it quite dispassionately.

doesn't it hurt ?

It doesn't hurt at all. I'm sure thats not a good thing. The tooth is well dead now. The tooth broke back in 04 and has been patched twice. I've actually wanted it out completely but the tooth is a major one and it needs something to go in it's place. I'm worried about adjacent teeth falling like dominos either from decay picked up from this one or actually being pushed over because there is nothing next to them to hold them in place. I'm also worried about my jaw becoming infected by this. That would be bad. Money is the kicker though. It would take me a couple years to gather the funds to sort this one out. I had some set aside but the govt took it all. Nowadays it's hand to mouth...... pardon the pun.