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Shami-Amourae
17th February 2014, 10:02 AM
I'm looking for a more high quality colloidal silver generator. I have been using a simple pocket one that's battery operated by a single 9V battery. I want something that does a more pure colloidal silver.
I've heard the Silver Puppy is good but I'm afraid to buy anything on their website since it's done so poorly, that it doesn't look safe. Any thoughts/suggestions?
Neuro
17th February 2014, 10:22 AM
I'm looking for a more high quality colloidal silver generator. I have been using a simple pocket one that's battery operated by a single 9V battery. I want something that does a more pure colloidal silver.
I've heard the Silver Puppy is good but I'm afraid to buy anything on their website since it's done so poorly, that it doesn't look safe. Any thoughts/suggestions?
I think you are using the same one I am using. It's only pure 9999 silver rod and distilled water, how would you not get pure colloidal silver from that? I guess you get a few particles that are bigger, but you get rid of those by filtering through a coffee filter...
Silver Rocket Bitches!
17th February 2014, 10:27 AM
I've been using this method for years and it works great every time. https://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm
I'm not pumping out multiple gallons at a time so it fits my needs.
Neuro
17th February 2014, 10:29 AM
I've been using this method for years and it works great every time. https://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm
I'm not pumping out multiple gallons at a time so it fits my needs.
Yeah, that's the one I am using too!
Sorry no I bought their kit using the pocket size generator that you attach one 9-volt battery to...
Shami-Amourae
17th February 2014, 10:32 AM
I'm using Colloidal Silver Generator-1 (https://www.atlasnova.com/CSGenerator1.htm)
Mine looks like this:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/916JjoWIojL._SL1500_.jpg
Neuro
17th February 2014, 10:34 AM
That's the one! What's your problem?
Shami-Amourae
17th February 2014, 10:35 AM
That's the one! What's your problem?
I wasn't sure if there was something better.
Neuro
17th February 2014, 10:46 AM
I wasn't sure if there was something better.
I think it makes pure colloidal silver, if you only use pure distilled water... Perhaps you can get another generator that can make above 10-15 ppm colloidal silver, but is that really necessary for your needs?
abeland1
25th March 2014, 07:01 PM
What do you really need to make "pretty darn good" colloidal silver? First of all, you need the purest silver wire that you can find. At least 9999. Then you need some method of determining whether or not the water you are using is pure distilled water. Then you need a way to check and see if you have made an adequate strength of colloidal silver. You also need some way to determine whether or not you're done. I believe that I have designed a generator that sells for less than $50.00 and will do all this. Have a look at how it operates here:
http://www.atlasnova.com/csginst.pdf
I designed this device in 2009 for Atlasnova. I had just finished the design of the "1 gallon per day" model that was intended for those requiring the very best in strength and stability of the final product. Over an honest 20 PPM and a shelf life measured in years. That design ended up using over 3 ounces of silver and costing over $200. This little generator was an effort on my part to reach people who are unwilling or unable to spend the money and the effort to make colloidal silver in the best possible way. I had become convinced that there are many people who have the good judgment to realize that they are much better off making their own colloidal silver than trusting the plethora of snake oil salesmen out there. The colloidal silver produced by this little unit peaks out at an ionic value of 15 PPM shown in the instructions. This would give a total of say 18 PPM counting the silver particles. After sitting for a week it read only 11 PPM. The colloidal silver produced with this unit is best used in a short period of time. I have violated all the principles that I have outlined for making "perfect" colloidal silver. However, this will reach many more people and give them control over what they are using. The little generator will also end up using twice as much silver to gain a certain value of colloidal silver than the methods you are using. As silver is still relatively cheap, I don't think this matters very much. I'm hoping that the simplicity and low cost of this unit will get a lot more people into the game.
Neuro
26th March 2014, 01:39 AM
Thanks Abeland1, for your extensive explanation... How long is the shelf life of the "pocket" device colloidal silver?
abeland1
26th March 2014, 08:52 PM
It depends on how good you get at making it. If you follow the process in the instructions you will see that I stop the process at 15 PPM and a good red line in a dimly lit room. The solution was crystal clear. I checked the strength the next day and it had gone down to 12 PPM. After one week it was at 10 PPM. At this point I went ahead and drank it. I am satisfied that this is as good or better colloidal silver then you're going to buy from anyone. Keep in mind that the CSG1 is a compromise on my part after designing the gallon per day generator with the help of a long running thread on the old GIM1. The price of silver had advanced to the point where that kit had to sell for over $200 which put it out of the reach of many. I particularly wanted to reach people who wanted to try using colloidal silver. I knew from my own personal experience what a great help it was for much of what ails us.
Neuro
26th March 2014, 11:17 PM
Thanks Abe! Another question popped up in my mind, afaik the optimal voltage to make colloidal silver is somewhere between 25-30V, but you only attach one 9V battery to the generator, does the IC change the voltage to optimal? How does it do that?
One time the colloidal silver I made tasted nasty after a couple of months, but I think the reason may have been that I forgot to filter out the large particles in a coffee filter and possibly that the silver got exposed to too much light. Could that had done it?
abeland1
27th March 2014, 08:10 PM
" Thanks Abe! Another question popped up in my mind, afaik the optimal voltage to make colloidal silver is somewhere between 25-30V, but you only attach one 9V battery to the generator, does the IC change the voltage to optimal? How does it do that?"
That voltage range is a concept leftover from the days of the 3 9V batteries and silver coins. The amount of voltage that you need depends on the spacing between the anode and cathode silver wires. When you first begin the process the distilled water which exists between two silver wires is in fact a high value resistor. We need a certain potential difference that will allow at least a small current and therefore generate ions. In water, it is the ions that conduct. As more ions are generated, the PPM increases, the resistance goes down and the current increases, the voltage across the two wires decreases because the resistor, because the current is higher, is dropping more of the voltage. Ohm's law is a beautiful thing. For the CSG1, 9 V was all I needed. I could have used three batteries and 27 V and a larger limiting resistor but all it gain would be a few minutes to get the process started. Three batteries will not last any longer than one battery because the current drain would be the same. The important thing was to keep in the same geometry from one batch to another.
When it came to the 1 gallon per day ultimate Atlasnova colloidal silver generator I used the maximum allowable voltage for home use of 48 V. If you look at the 1 gallon per day generator:
https://www.atlasnova.com/OneGallonCSG.htm
you will see that we use a wide mouth 1 gallon jar. This kit is supplied with over 3 ounces of 10gauge 99997 silver wire. There had to be a lot more space between the wires. If I tried to use my goals this setup would take many hours to get going.
" One time the colloidal silver I made tasted nasty after a couple of months, but I think the reason may have been that I forgot to filter out the large particles in a coffee filter and possibly that the silver got exposed to too much light. Could that had done it?"
Taste is so subjective it's very hard to trust. Did it look okay?
Neuro
28th March 2014, 12:14 AM
It was a deeply bitter taste. I actually don't remember how it looked like. It may have had some black particles in it or it may have had a greyish cloudy tint, or even both...
abeland1
30th March 2014, 03:07 PM
I would follow the same rule that I apply when finding something in my refrigerator that I can't quite remember putting in there. "When in doubt, throw it out".
Another item that you will find useful is a quality laser pointer. Nothing from China. High quality laser pointers have a current regulating circuit which ensures that the output of the laser remains the same no matter what the condition of the batteries. The rated power is maintained until there is no laser action whatsoever, at which time the batteries have to be replaced. The cheap ones from China will vary in power, therefore making a very poor test instrument. The laser pointer will enable you to see the generation of the small particles, as they are being made. This will occur after you have achieved the highest possible ionic portion, the ions are combining to form larger particles. In the days before we had laser pointers to use, we did not know whether or not we had made colloidal silver until the yellow hue appeared. The yellow hue is caused by the presence of particles in excess of 40 nm in size. It creates a yellow because the particles block the blue part of the spectrum. If you subtract blue from the rest of the spectrum, you have red green that you see as yellow. The smaller particles are more desirable as they have more surface area.
Neuro
31st March 2014, 02:46 AM
Scary how foul food just "appears" in the refrigerator without anyone having a recollection of putting it there...
Serpo
27th August 2014, 03:54 PM
http://http://biophysica.com/content/
steyr_m
27th August 2014, 06:35 PM
http://http://biophysica.com/content/
I'm getting a dead link....
This is some of the info I wanted while posting my original link ~2 months ago.
As long I I don't turn into a smurf...
steyr_m
27th August 2014, 06:54 PM
Where does one source the electrodes?
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