Earth Orbital Speed:66666mi/H- Strange Stars Pulsate According to the "Golden Ratio"

[singular_me]

as you can see geometry has a lot more to show than what we learn in high school.

Plato: let none enter who is ignorant of geometry

Sacred Geometry holds the secret of the Universe, God expressing himself in PURE mathematical language. That is why all spiritual texts contain (sacred) numbers.

well now how to explain the 66666M/H... 666, the number of the beast... or the number of the speed needed to sustain life on earth ;D . I think that what the 6 pointed star isreali flag tells us is that "they" are cosmic knowledge supremacists.

is the Golden Ratio, found in the egyptian pyramids, some kind of new age theory or ancient knowledge that doesnt serve any purpose.... now corroborated by sciences on a cosmic scale.

We can thank the NWO for having ostracized (tagged as occult) this incredible knowledge for centuries, what a waste of time. But sure control is everything.

Irrational numbers? because scientists refuse to include the *God/Mystery/Esoteric* equation in their approach.

to zoom in, just right click, then click on view image
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the speed of the Earth’s orbit around the Sun is 108,000 km/h,

108km = 67mi

so 66666 is 99.9% correct

because the number 9 is ultimate, all calculations have a 0.1% error margin.

from the "secrets in plain sight" utube blockbuster creator.
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Scientists Find Fractal Patterns & Golden Ratio Pulses in Stars

http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/fractal-pattern.jpg

A recent article in Scientific American has reported the discovery that fractal patterns and the golden ration have been discovered in outer space for the very first time. Researchers from the University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa have been studying a specific kind of stars called RR Lyrae variables using the Kepler Space Telescope. Unlike normal stars, they expand and contract, causing their brightness to adjust dramatically, and in so doing create pulsations.

But the pulsations aren’t random or arbitrary. They are pulsating in accordance with the golden mean. We have seen the golden ration turn up in nature all the time, but this is the first time it has ever been identified in space.

“Unlike our Sun, RR Lyrae stars shrink and swell, causing their temperatures and brightness to rhythmically change like the frequencies or notes in a song,” Dr Lindner, the lead Researcher, explained. It’s the ratio between this swelling and shrinking that is so important.

They have been studying the pulsations of these stars, and several of them have been pulsating frequencies nearly identical to the Golden Ratio. These specific stars are called “Golden RR Lyrae Variables.”

“We call these stars ‘golden’ because the ratio of two of their frequency components is near the golden mean, which is an irrational number famous in art, architecture, and mathematics,” Dr Lindner said.

The Golden Mean or Ratio, (1.61803398875…) is a pattern that is absolutely essential to the understanding of nature, as its found in everything from sunflowers, to succulents, to sea shells, and is commonly referred to in the study of Sacred Geometry......
- See more at: http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/scientists-find-fractal-patterns-golden-ratio-pulses-in-stars/#sthash.iSOTP8ul.dpuf

Strange Stars Pulsate According to the "Golden Ratio"
February 9, 2015
Scholars have seen the golden ratio in nautilus shells, the Parthenon, da Vinci paintings and now in stars. A new study of variable stars observed by the Kepler space telescope found four stars that pulsate at frequencies whose ratio is near the irrational number 0.61803398875, known as the Greek letter phi, or the golden ratio (which is also sometimes referred to as the inverse of that number, 1.61803398875…).... more
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-stars-pulsate-according-to-the-golden-ratio/


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Sonic Geometry: The Language of Frequency and Form

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY74AFQl2qQ


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[aeondaze]

as you can see geometry has a lot more to show than what we learn in high school.

We can thank the NWO for having ostracized (tagged as occult) this incredible knowledge for centuries, what a waste of time. But sure control is everything.

Who is the we, here. Don't procalim to speak for all of use because what your saying isn't true.

SOME SCHOOLS DO TEACH ABOUT THE GOLDEN RATIO, I attended one of them!

It depends on what level of math one studies, as I can see from your bitterness you obviously took the wrong subjects in high school, or attended the wrong schools. That's no ones fault but your own.

So pray tell how are they supposed to have been teaching about this discovery when they've only just discovered it?

You make no sense whatsoever.

The NWO is responsible for a lot of things but not teaching about the golden ratio isn't one of them unfortunately.

How about you back up a little and start making coherent and reserved statements instead of the bombastic sweeping ones with no basis in reality.

[singular_me]

I think you are fabricating again, aeon... otherwise you would have been a lot more receptive to sacred geometry since I am posting about it.

and you would surely not make a mockery of secrets in plain sight in your sig. (Secrets in Plain Sight - A side splitting yet fascinating mockumentary for the archaeologicaly inept and wilfully ignorant.)

in the lesser case you may have been taught about it but were never explained the link to sacred geometry. Exactly what the NWO wants the schools to teach.

[Neuro]

I prefer the speed in knots...

58,315.33

Wow is that a coincidence or what? That number just keep popping up everywhere! Must be sacred!

[Dogman]

I prefer the speed in knots...

57931.170 knots

;)

[singular_me]

it is not so easy Neuro... it is all about codes/sutras and I'd assume that there is a code/sutra for knots, one just has to find it. And the fact that you dont understand/see it, is a little puzzling.

Leonardo Da Vinci was a sacred geometry master. And Plato of course... among many others. So I find your take unimpressive.

Dogman, have you researched the implosion model for engines yet?




I prefer the speed in knots...

58,315.33

Wow is that a coincidence or what? That number just keep popping up everywhere! Must be sacred!

[Neuro]

57931.170 knots

;)
Well I translated 108,000 km/h into knots... It's better because the first decimals is 33, how would it otherwise be sacred?

[Neuro]

it is not so easy Neuro... it is all about codes/sutras and I'd assume that there is a code/sutra for knots, one just has to find it
Some would say you put the cart before the horse... ;)

[Dogman]

Well I translated 108,000 km/h into knots... It's better because the first decimals is 33, how would it otherwise be sacred?

I bow to your superior logic !

Impeccable !

:)

[singular_me]

However, all metric systems should come together at some point. Convergence I mean. Finding the code that goes with the knot metric system is key but I am not sure as to whether you want to grasp this.

Dogman, have you researched the implosion model for engines yet?



Well I translated 108,000 km/h into knots... It's better because the first decimals is 33, how would it otherwise be sacred?

[Neuro]

However, all metric systems should come together at some point.
Should they? Why is that?

[Dogman]

However, all metric systems should come together at some point. Convergence I mean. Finding the code that goes with the knot metric system is key but I am not sure as to whether you want to grasp this.

Dogman, have you researched the implosion model for engines yet?



Yes I did,

NA Mumbo jumbo !

[singular_me]

whatever, You made it clear so many times that those topics were not your cup of tea.


Some would say you put the cart before the horse... ;)

[singular_me]

you didnt search at all, it is just that this type of technology is too alien to you.

Viktor Schauberger and Nikola Tesla are the geniuses of their time. Schauberger's technology is behind the secret ufo gov programs... sure, it only can be mumbo jumbo if one is not aware or refuses to believe in the ufo agenda. LOL



Yes I did,

Mumbo jumbo !

[Neuro]

whatever, You made it clear so many times that those topics were not your cup of tea.
Whatever gave you that idea? I like discussing them. It's like putting needles to balloons, it's fun... :)

[Neuro]

you didnt search at all, it is just that this type of technology is too alien to you.

Viktor Schauberger and Nikola Tesla are the geniuses of their time. Schauberger's technology is behind the secret ufo gov programs... sure, it only can be mumbo jumbo if one is not aware or refuses to believe in the ufo agenda. LOL
It's funny, everyone who disagrees with you do it because they don't have enough knowledge... Incredible!

[aeondaze]

There is nothing 'sacred' about the golden ratio.

I was taught about it in high school. I'm sorry your education was second rate, but its not me you should be bitching to about it.

Maybe you should go talk to your guru HT.


However, all metric systems should come together at some point. Convergence I mean. Finding the code that goes with the knot metric system is key but I am not sure as to whether you want to grasp this.

Dogman, have you researched the implosion model for engines yet?

See what you're posting here is non-sense. There is no "metric systems" there is SI units (which is metric based).

SI stands for Le Système International.

There are no other "systems" of metric which your use of plural indicates.

What has any of this got to do with the Sutras anyway?

This is just pure rubbish!

[singular_me]

there is an secret ufo gov agenda... and anybody REALLY into this knows who is Viktor Schauberger, what can I say ???



It's funny, everyone who disagrees with you do it because they don't have enough knowledge... Incredible!

[aeondaze]

there is an secret ufo gov agenda.

haha, there is also ministry of propoganda!

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/


But on July 2, that came silently to an end with the implementation of a new reform passed in January. The result: an unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption in a reform initially criticized as a green light for U.S. domestic propaganda efforts.

You love to rail against the NWO and their supposed conspiracies but you fail to recognize or even consider that anything to do with UFO's is purely misleading government propaganda.

Your patterns of thought and motivations I would argue are highly suspicious

[Neuro]

I think she meant measurement systems, Aeon... The whole idea is to go around and find distances and speeds that has a bunch of 3's and 6's in them, and when it doesn't match completely you round up or down so it becomes a sacred number. Next step is to connect your own name and birth date numerologically to important world events, but to those further down the ladder that appears insane... :)

[singular_me]

distance is distance and there must be a UNIFIED THEORY for all the metric systems.

I dont know it but this is what I sense.

there is a UNIFIED THEORY for everything, in the greater scheme of all things

and this is the shabby secret of the NWO.

HT is no guru... but got it: I see that it is all you have to say when I mention plato and find about a scientific article talking or "irrational number"

Sutra means code in sanskrit... that is why I am using both terms

sure it is rubbish for an atheist.



There is nothing 'sacred' about the golden ratio.

I was taught about it in high school. I'm sorry your education was second rate, but its not me you should be bitching to about it.

Maybe you should go talk to your guru HT.



See what you're posting here is non-sense. There is no "metric systems" there is SI units (which is metric based).

SI stands for Le Système International.

There are no other "systems" of metric which your use of plural indicates.

What has any of this got to do with the Sutras anyway?

This is just pure rubbish!

[aeondaze]

I think she meant measurement systems, Aeon... The whole idea is to go around and find distances and speeds that has a bunch of 3's and 6's in them, and when it doesn't match completely you round up or down so it becomes a sacred number. Next step is to connect your own name and birth date numerologically to important world events, but to those further down the ladder that appears insane... :)

OK, I get now. No wonder I was having so much trouble, here is me trying to actually find out if any of this has veracity, but its all just made up non-sense!

[singular_me]

neuro you cant even wrap your mind around the fibonacci sequence. so what can I say??

fibonacci that has found out about the shape of galaxies BEFORE the telescope was invented... if some day you can explain this to me, it will be a sign that we can have a decent discussion

until then... bye


I think she meant measurement systems, Aeon... The whole idea is to go around and find distances and speeds that has a bunch of 3's and 6's in them, and when it doesn't match completely you round up or down so it becomes a sacred number. Next step is to connect your own name and birth date numerologically to important world events, but to those further down the ladder that appears insane... :)

[aeondaze]

distance is distance and there must be a UNIFIED THEORY for all the metric systems.

I dont know it but this is what I sense.

You can't just 'sense' these things, they are arrived at through a rigorous scientific methodology with a basis on observations and logical questioning.


there is a UNIFIED THEORY for everything, in the greater scheme of all things

and this is the shabby secret of the NWO.

No there isn't, not as of yet! Many good men of science have tried gallantly but failed and you certainly aren't going to be the one to find it!



Sutra means code in sanskrit.

Sure. but it doesn't mean there is a mathematical code. 'Code' could be interpreted as meaning 'guide to living', but it certainly doesn't mean there is some mystical cypher based on mathematics.

What gives you that idea?

[Neuro]

neuro you cant even wrap your mind around the fibonacci sequence. so what can I say??

fibonacci that has found out about the shape of galaxies BEFORE the telescope was invented... if some day you can explain this to me, it will be a sign that we can have a decent discussion

until then... bye
More lies. I have no problem wrapping my mind around the Fibonacci sequence. It's just a logical way for structures and growing life to organize efficiently. Seashells did this prior to invention of telescopes... Now tell me what it has to do with earth rotating around the sun close to 66,666 miles an hour?

[singular_me]

The Secret Space/UFO Programs are as real as you exist. I feel sorry for you that your mindset is so mainstream.


haha, there is also ministry of propoganda!

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

[singular_me]

not lying, the impression you give me... maybe misinterpreting here but you cannot deal with any esoteric subjects, and that is what I meant mainly.

the goal, which isnt mine but which of the secrets in plain sight" guy is to find patterns in numbers... because Nature LOVES numbers. Finding codes to establish series is the only goal.... and ultimately it benefits all fields in sciences to address ALL kinds of issues

but just like aeon, I do not think you are that much interested in the topic, even debating/debunking it, starting threads on your own.... just like you wouldnt see the dark esoteric side of nazism, you told me it was mumbo-jumbo.

status quo again


More lies. I have no problem wrapping my mind around the Fibonacci sequence. It's just a logical way for structures and growing life to organize efficiently. Seashells did this prior to invention of telescopes... Now tell me what it has to do with earth rotating around the sun close to 66,666 miles an hour?

[aeondaze]

fibonacci that has found out about the shape of galaxies BEFORE the telescope was invented

Can you please direct me to where this information lies?

[aeondaze]

My eldest son just blew up a balloon inside a pair of his underpants and noted that it didn't fly around like the balloon did on its own.

So I asked him, "Why do you think that is?"

After thinking about it for a moment he said "Because the underpants make it heavier!"

Thats real science right there!:)

[aeondaze]

the goal, which isnt mine but which of the secrets in plain sight" guy is to find patterns in numbers... because Nature LOVES numbers. Finding codes to establish series is the only goal.... and ultimately it benefits all fields in sciences to address ALL kinds of issues

Thats the goal of ALL scientists! What makes you think this guy is so special?

Nature doesn't love anything, patterns exist within nature to be sure, why is this such a revelation?

Humans have known this for a long long time. It might be revelatory to you, but to me and I would posit Neuro as well, its just the way the world is.

[Neuro]

not lying... maybe misinterpreting here but you cannot deal with esoteric subjects, and that is what I meant mainly.

the goal, which isnt mine but which of the secrets in plain sight" guy is to find patterns in numbers... because Nature LOVES numbers. Finding codes to establish series is the only goal.... and ultimately it benefits all fields in sciences to address ALL kinds of issues
Nature doesn't love numbers, it doesn't give a shit about numbers! Numbers are a human construct. And in your egocentric universe you live in, if someone disagrees with your deranged importance of certain numbers (3's and 6's mainly), they are wrong, get
over yourself...

You are not misinterpreting you are intentionally misleading. I have no problems discussing esoterism, it is you who have a problem handling anyone who disagrees with you. Once in a blue moon you post something that is useful and insightful. I have thanked you on those occasions, did you notice that?

[aeondaze]

Nature doesn't love numbers, it doesn't give a shit about numbers!

Haha, I just said the same thing in a round about way..

This is whats such an affront. I have studied high level mathematics at the tertiary level, I really enjoyed it and did well. There is so much I could show singular about the elegance of mathematics but not only does she refuse to listen or even acknowledge others wisdom, but she outright insults us and ridicules our depth of knowledge.

:(

[singular_me]

you may acknowledge the shape of the fibonnacci sequence as a pattern in Nature, but I am sure that you'd try to debunk the explanation as HOW he found about it, which is esoteric. If not, explain it right now.... it is your chance to show that you grasp the topic, patterns in numbers.

go ahead, I am listening... how did he find about the sequence when the telescope hadnt been invented yet?

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dominatethegmat.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F05%2FGMAT-Sequence-Fibonacci.jpg&f=1

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fabyss.uoregon.edu%2F~js%2Fimages%2 Fheic0506a.jpg&f=1


More lies. I have no problem wrapping my mind around the Fibonacci sequence. It's just a logical way for structures and growing life to organize efficiently.

[singular_me]

that must be why biology, chemistry and astrophysics are all about math... math is the only language of Nature/Universe.

If Nature reveals herself as mathematical patterns and equations, she must love it. Just like atoms get together because they LOVE each other's company. :)

Nature is a mathematical Beauty, IMHO


Neuro
Nature doesn't love numbers, it doesn't give a shit about numbers!

[Neuro]

you may acknowledge the shape of the fibonnacci sequence as a pattern in Nature, but I am sure that you'd try to debunk the explanation as HOW he found about it, which is esoteric. If not, explain it right now.... it is your chance to show that you grasp the topic, patterns in numbers.

go ahead, I am listening... how did he find about the sequence when the telescope hadnt been invented yet?

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dominatethegmat.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F05%2FGMAT-Sequence-Fibonacci.jpg&f=1

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fabyss.uoregon.edu%2F~js%2Fimages%2 Fheic0506a.jpg&f=1
n^2, he was a matematician, not an astronomer. It is the logical way for seashells to grow most efficiently, they don't put a mind to doing it that way neither does galaxies, they just do!

[Glass]

we should not fight amongst ourselves over patterns we recognize but don't know what to do with.

I see the point as: there are these patterns. They are clearly there. We are not the first to notice them. Others have seen them before. What we don't know is, how to use them. Another thing we don't know is did anyone prior to us, who recognised them, have a way to use them that we do not know about. We suspect and many hope so.

We can see they were used as a means of proportioning out buildings and the materials that went into their buildings. We know or suspect strongly that the positioning or placement of these constructions also seems to include the numerical patterns or portions of them incorporated.

The answers could be complicated or they maybe very simple. Much like the ingrained societal behaviours, people may have just done it that way because thats the way it's done since time began.

I feel, that is makes a good foundation for methods of autonomous organisation. That may be all there is to it? I'd like there to be more and I think taking in as much as you can on the subject is something worth doing. Let it percolate. See if any light bulbs go off.

Remembering that at least one person in history had a Eureka moment that changed how we see things. I think it's something that can be harnessed if understood and I don't think it's manifest in the physical. e.g. a lot of people thing that there is a physical "Ark". I think that the "Arc" is a path. It might be a celestial path or a metaphysical one such as someone astro projecting (if that is possible - I don't know personally)

[Horn]

The mile marker itself is a ufo to me.

Google result below, they dig metrics apparently.




30 km/sec


The Earth revolves around the Sun at a speed of about 18.5 miles/sec (30 km/sec).



There could be some correlation there. at a true 666 double 00

interesting stuff.

1.6216216216216216216216216216216

[singular_me]

get over it Neuro, sacred math shapes the entire Universe, microcosm and macrocosm... and is a science onto itself.


Nature doesn't love numbers, it doesn't give a shit about numbers! Numbers are a human construct. And in your egocentric universe you live in, if someone disagrees with your deranged importance of certain numbers (3's and 6's mainly), they are wrong, get
over yourself...

You are not misinterpreting you are intentionally misleading. I have no problems discussing esoterism, it is you who have a problem handling anyone who disagrees with you. Once in a blue moon you post something that is useful and insightful. I have thanked you on those occasions, did you notice that?

[Neuro]

that must be why biology, chemistry and astrophysics are all about math... math is the only language of Nature/Universe.

If Nature reveals herself as mathematical patterns and equations, she must love it. Just like atoms get together because they LOVE each other's company. :)

Nature is a mathematical Beauty, IMHO
Yes nature has in it beauty which can be expressed mathematically, but math is only a human discipline, snails don't care about Fibonacci sequence, neither galaxies...

[Neuro]

get over it Neuro, sacred math shapes the entire Universe, microcosm and macrocosm... and is a sciences onto itself.
It is so because you say so?

You still haven't explained the significance of earth rotating around the sun at nearly 67,078 miles/hour. Did you know that the price of copper right now is $2.5452/lbs. isn't that cool it becomes the same number backwards...

[singular_me]

speed of the Earth's orbit around the Sun is 108,000 km/h http://phys.org/news/2014-11-earth-orbit-sun.html
or
108km = 67mi

http://www.metric-conversions.org/length/kilometers-to-miles.htm

there is a 0.1% error margin in the OP calculation



The mile marker itself is a ufo to me.

Google result below, they dig metrics apparently.

The Earth revolves around the Sun at a speed of about 18.5 miles/sec (30 km/sec).

There could be some correlation there. at a true 666 double 00

interesting stuff.

[singular_me]

not me.... many way before me.... and I believe them

and thats why all religions reveal embedded numbers


It is so because you say so?

[Glass]

Did you know that the price of copper right now is $2.5452/lbs. isn't that cool it becomes the same number backwards...

Thats a Palindrome.

[Neuro]

Thats a Palindrome.
Leave Sara out of this! ;D

[Neuro]

not me.... many way before me.... and I believe them
I can't argue with that. It is your religion! I'm just pointing out to you, you are putting the cart in front of the horse. :)

[singular_me]

sorry scientists just found about the golden ratio in stars.... indeed what do they mean by "irrational" ??? be damned if we ever speak of sacred geometry?

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Strange Stars Pulsate According to the "Golden Ratio"
February 9, 2015
Scholars have seen the golden ratio in nautilus shells, the Parthenon, da Vinci paintings and now in stars. A new study of variable stars observed by the Kepler space telescope found four stars that pulsate at frequencies whose ratio is near the irrational number 0.61803398875, known as the Greek letter phi, or the golden ratio (which is also sometimes referred to as the inverse of that number, 1.61803398875…)....
link in OP


I can't argue with that. It is your religion! I'm just pointing out to you, you are putting the cart in front of the horse. :)

[Glass]

I think it is Ir-ration-al. Can not be displayed as a ratio? or ration.

Or this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrational_number

maybe what I thought or not.. does my head in some times.


Greek mathematicians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_mathematics) termed this ratio of incommensurable magnitudes alogos, or inexpressible. Hippasus, however, was not lauded for his efforts: according to one legend, he made his discovery while out at sea, and was subsequently thrown overboard by his fellow Pythagoreans “…for having produced an element in the universe which denied the…doctrine that all phenomena in the universe can be reduced to whole numbers and their ratios.”[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrational_number#cite_note-8) Another legend states that Hippasus was merely exiled for this revelation. Whatever the consequence to Hippasus himself, his discovery posed a very serious problem to Pythagorean mathematics, since it shattered the assumption that number and geometry were inseparable–a foundation of their theory.

[singular_me]

"They... they... " sure, you'd rather say "they" instead of a Field making them act this way and which sacred math shapes

[QUOTE=Neuro;759287] they don't put a mind to doing it that way neither does galaxies, they just do![/QUOTE

even music is math
Sonic Geometry: The Language of Frequency and Form
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY74AFQl2qQ

[singular_me]

it is always interesting to hear about a counter theory but then I look at reality and see numbers embedded everywhere (secrets in plain sight being the ultimate evidence), and considering that masonic zionists are so found of it (israel flag for example), is debunking pythagoras serious?




I think it is Ir-ration-al. Can not be displayed as a ratio? or ration.

Or this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrational_number

maybe what I thought or not.. does my head in some times.

[midnight rambler]

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know." --Donald Rumsfeld

[Neuro]

sorry scientists just found about the golden ratio in stars.... indeed what do they mean by "irrational" ??? be damned if we ever speak of sacred geometry?

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Strange Stars Pulsate According to the "Golden Ratio"
February 9, 2015
Scholars have seen the golden ratio in nautilus shells, the Parthenon, da Vinci paintings and now in stars. A new study of variable stars observed by the Kepler space telescope found four stars that pulsate at frequencies whose ratio is near the irrational number 0.61803398875, known as the Greek letter phi, or the golden ratio (which is also sometimes referred to as the inverse of that number, 1.61803398875…)....
link in OP
Probably similar to the 11 year solar cycle where I would estimate about 40% of the time sun increases its output and the rest of the time decreasing it, though probably these stars pulsate much quicker. Also ocean waves would exhibit a similar pattern visually... One direction of the wave is the inversion of the other x and 1/x leads to the golden ratio naturally, but that doesn't mean there is anything mystical about the golden ratio it is just the harmonical progression of complex uninterrupted systems... As the ocean wave breaks on the beach the ratio changes drastically, which surfers love...

[Neuro]

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know." --Donald Rumsfeld
Sounds like someone who pays particular attention to numerology...

[Neuro]

"They... they... " sure, you'd rather say "they" instead of a Field making them act this way and which sacred math shapes


Yes, they the snails don't grow their shape like that because they choose to do so, their is neither a field forcing them to grow this way, they are genetically programmed to grow like that, because it is the most efficient way of enlarging the shell the most, and evolution selected those individuals that did it most efficiently. See no magical mathematical field theories are required only a bit of rational thinking...

[Horn]

108km = 67mi

The golden mean, they must've coordinated the two systems relative.

[Horn]

Probably similar to the 11 year solar cycle

33/3 - the shortest cycle is recorded at 9 the longest at 12.6

[singular_me]

interesting quote knowing that it comes from him in particular


"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know." --Donald Rumsfeld

[singular_me]

my interest in the topic started first in america, hence with the english metric system. But the interesting thing is that british royals are ruling the world (along with vatican)


The golden mean, they must've coordinated the two systems relative.

[singular_me]

sure Life/Nature has no esoteric components, it all happens logically :)

just like not willing to find about the meaning of the reversed swastika... it is all mumbo jumbo.

You have no interest in the topic at all because it challenges way too much your belief system.

meanwhile the elites have embedded sacred math in their buildings and locations of the latter... that is all happening out of the blue, it is a coincidence.

Vatican has a pine cone statue in its yard for no reason, while the pine cone reveals the fibonacci sequence.

the problem you see is that coincidence does not exist. Coincidence is the framework of atheism.



Yes, they the snails don't grow their shape like that because they choose to do so, their is neither a field forcing them to grow this way, they are genetically programmed to grow like that, because it is the most efficient way of enlarging the shell the most, and evolution selected those individuals that did it most efficiently. See no magical mathematical field theories are required only a bit of rational thinking...

http://www.crystalinks.com/pineconesfibonacci.jpg

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm2.staticflickr.com%2F1114%2F31 69129147_0e694518c7_z.jpg%3Fzz%3D1&f=1

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2012yayas.com%2Fimages%2Fsumerian-pine-3.jpg&f=1

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-JoY_PIMektY%2FUoL-_IbT6mI%2FAAAAAAAAdiQ%2Fn6oK5Ey72ic%2Fs1600%2Fcone 12.jpg&f=1

yeah, that is JUST a coincidence. So we cannot even agree that it is not one, why bother discussing further?

it has been 5 years that I am digging into the topic and understand why those "irrational" numbers have been hidden from us. This is vital info to get rid of the masonic-zionists as they conceal the most important knowledge about the Universe/God to mathematically interpret the purpose of Man.

Sacred math is the evidence of an "intelligent design".

[Horn]

Know what u mean, its as if there where some dynamically tuned population numbers for expansionary redcoats applied. The differences in systems meant as a border of some type.

Maybe only the Queen of wasp diamonds knows... as Neuro stated its highly efficient.

[Dogman]

you didnt search at all, it is just that this type of technology is too alien to you.

Viktor Schauberger and Nikola Tesla are the geniuses of their time. Schauberger's technology is behind the secret ufo gov programs... sure, it only can be mumbo jumbo if one is not aware or refuses to believe in the ufo agenda. LOL


Do I believe in UFO? I am open to the ideal, there is something behind everything we see,feel,taste,hear and much much more. All that exists can not be just by chance. The universe is huge beyound human understanding, we try but it just boggles the mind when it comes to comprehending its true dimensions. We can go the other way into the very small and again it is wonderful almost beyond description. Look into a light microscope at some pond water using dark field and be amazed, then go smaller to the cellular level and smaller and behold the wonders.

Non of it all can be by chance !

All was guided by a higher authority, that we can not understand at this time, all we find are hints, in our mathematics and everything we see and feel. Some call this authority God! But one that is universal, bigger than the one that some religions kill for.

I do believe in mathematics, every thing I just said has math behind it all. The math behind the spire in a shell as discussed in this thread. I am fascinated by fractal theory, I find Mandelbrot sets beautiful.

Can you build a transmitter and receiver using math and ohms law from scratch?

I can and have, its loads of fun and sometimes headaches, but worth it when it all works as it was designed to do, I took much pleasure doing so for myself and others doing so.

Nikola Tesla was a genius and pioneer that I greatly admire, and have built some Tesla coils using his designs. The first RF (radio) transmitters can thank him for his work, they were called "spark gap" transmitters.

There still is much more than we can see and need to understand, Hell in the late 1800's scientist were mostly convinced that they had everything figured out and nothing about science could be learned more, they had it all figured out.

Viktor Schauberger is an interesting subject, bunch believe, but none have produced or have made a working device that can be tested or duplicated. Just a bunch of babble with no facts to back anything.

Still waiting to see a real working model !

Nuff said for now, not enough time in this post for me to truly say what I believe in, other than proven science and knowing that science as of yet does not have all the answers , nor I suspect ever will.

Paranormal, we all have experienced deja vu moments in our life's that can not be explained, there maybe something to it unseen connections.

So I do have a open mind, not closed at all, skeptical yes to some theory's that are like fads , they come and then go, wash and repeat.

Nuff said for now.

[singular_me]

when I speak of tesla to mainstream minds, they also tell me that it is mumbo jumbo. It is all about how far one is willing to take it.

if one truly understands the energy vortex principles, there isnt absolutely no reason as why implosion technology shouldnt be working. I am no scientist but comprehend what happens inside a vortex. There is a force going "in" and another one "out. Implosion vs explosion.

Viktor Schauberger and Hitler knew each other, and surprisingly the secret space program (heavily documented on the net) starts with Nazism .

very strange destiny
http://schauberger.co.uk/bio/






Viktor Schauberger is an interesting subject, bunch believe, but none have produced or have made a working device that can be tested or duplicated. Just a bunch of babble with no facts to back anything.

Still waiting to see a real working model !

Nuff said for now, not enough time in this post for me to truly say what I believe in, other than proven science and knowing that science as of yet does not have all the answers , nor I suspect ever will.

Paranormal, we all have experienced deja vu moments in our life's that can not be explained, there maybe something to it unseen connections.

So I do have a open mind, not closed at all, skeptical yes to some theory's that are like fads , they come and then go, wash and repeat.

Nuff said for now.

[mick silver]

3+3=6-3=3

[Dogman]

when I speak of tesla to mainstream minds, they also tell me that it is mumbo jumbo. It is all about how far one is willing to take it.

if one truly understands the energy vortex principles, there isnt absolutely no reason as why implosion technology shouldnt be working. I am no scientist but comprehend what happens inside a vortex. There is a force going "in" and another one "out. Implosion vs explosion.

Viktor Schauberger and Hitler knew each other, and surprisingly the secret space program starts with Nazism (info but heavily documented on the net).

very strange destiny
http://schauberger.co.uk/bio/

When I said what I said, was in answer to your question that you asked me several times wason implosion engines, and Viktor Schauberger !

Not Tesla, read what I said and feel.

You asked a question and I replied with my answer to that question.


Dogman, have you researched the implosion model for engines yet?

Alternative view points are great until they become self destructive, especially when there is no rock solid proof backing them up.

[Horn]

In other words, you're looking in the wrong direction , tread by centuries past centrist based entities.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESFH1gNsARw

These aren't the droids you're looking for...

[Neuro]

sure Life/Nature has no esoteric components, it all happens logically :)

just like not willing to find about the meaning of the reversed swastika... it is all mumbo jumbo.

You have no interest in the topic at all because it challenges way too much your belief system.

Sacred math is the evidence of an "intelligent design".
Of course life and nature has an esoteric component. It is more than a collection of molecules. It has a purpose, a meaning to survive and thrive. The Fibonacci sequence construct is the most efficient way for a pinecone or a snail or a Galaxy to grow in size, it makes sense from that aspect only... Esoterism is another subject altogether, just like every other -ism it works by excluding other aspects of reality in this case purpose and rational behavior and design, the snail or a higher creator of a snail don't really care about Fibonacci sequence as it creates the shell. The shell is created that way because it is the most rational design for continued growth of the snail, which has a life force esoteric in nature. Through Eons as snail evolved those that had genes coding for that shape fared better vs snails that had a less efficient shape for growth... Nature isn't for your sacred math nor against it, it just doesn't give a shit about it. But life and structures in it may take shapes that resemble for instance the Fibonacci curve, because it is the most rational way of growing for it. I get that you prefer not to discuss this with me, but really the problem isn't me, I am glad to discuss it with you. The problem is you, you can't handle someone disagreeing with your half baked sacred theories, and instead of discussing the points brought up you state you can't discuss with someone who haven't showed an a) interest in the subject, b) because they are atheist c) because they haven't looked into the reversed Swastika d) they don't support your notion completely of the occult basis of Nazism e)they are fundamentalist Christians f)They haven't given an approved answer as to why the Vatican has a pinecone statue g) you only believe in mainstream science. None of it relevant to the discussion, and often only your flawed interpretation of the person you are "discussing" with.

Basically your idea of a discussion is take what I say as fact, any dissenters from my sacred theories will be character assassinated.

[Horn]

Basically your idea of a discussion is take what I say as fact, any dissenters from my sacred theories will be character assassinated.

Likewise its not advisable to throw stones at people in glass houses. Sir Chucksalot.

There is validity and knowledge in the direction the research could take us. This thread for jnstance portends to a greater continuity of man's thought to be wholly artificial separate systems.

[Neuro]

Likewise its not advisable to throw stones at people in glass houses. Sir Chucksalot.

There is validity and knowledge in the direction the research could take us. This thread for jnstance portends to a greater continuity of man's thought to be wholly artificial separate systems.
I am not the one who doesn't want to discuss it.

[Horn]

I am not the one who doesn't want to discuss it.

Regular Vandals descendent, hows that for character assasination?

[Neuro]

Regular Vandals descendent, hows that for character assasination?
???

[singular_me]

you could have acknowledged pages ago the esoteric component I meant in the OP. It would have been a shortcut and avoided the both of us some stress. I'd start a thread showing where fibonacci got his insight, you'd attempt to debunk it anyway, because what you really stand up against is numbers as a Cosmic Concept by asserting that they are a man's construct/invention, have no correlation whatsoever with the Universe. The fact that you came up with the knot metric system right away is the evidence you wouldnt make any effort to understand what is enticing about the "mile".

Those half backed theories have been out there for millennia, they are not mine. I wished I was the creator of 'secrets in plain sight" though. This guy is on a roll, a genius.

we only see what we believe in, belief defines knowing.

Indeed it would be interesting, fascinating I mean, to know WHY the mile was given this exact metric length in the first place. Because it is for sure, NOT arbitrary. The definition of the mile could have been either longer or shorter.... instead it is matching perfectly the need to understand sacred math/geometry, creating only a 0.1% error margin. ;D





Of course life and nature has an esoteric component. It is more than a collection of molecules. It has a purpose, a meaning to survive and thrive. The Fibonacci sequence construct is the most efficient way for a pinecone or a snail or a Galaxy to grow in size, it makes sense from that aspect only... Esoterism is another subject altogether, just like every other -ism it works by excluding other aspects of reality in this case purpose and rational behavior and design, the snail or a higher creator of a snail don't really care about Fibonacci sequence as it creates the shell. The shell is created that way because it is the most rational design for continued growth of the snail, which has a life force esoteric in nature. Through Eons as snail evolved those that had genes coding for that shape fared better vs snails that had a less efficient shape for growth... Nature isn't for your sacred math nor against it, it just doesn't give a shit about it. But life and structures in it may take shapes that resemble for instance the Fibonacci curve, because it is the most rational way of growing for it. I get that you prefer not to discuss this with me, but really the problem isn't me, I am glad to discuss it with you. The problem is you, you can't handle someone disagreeing with your half baked sacred theories, and instead of discussing the points brought up you state you can't discuss with someone who haven't showed an a) interest in the subject, b) because they are atheist c) because they haven't looked into the reversed Swastika d) they don't support your notion completely of the occult basis of Nazism e)they are fundamentalist Christians f)They haven't given an approved answer as to why the Vatican has a pinecone statue g) you only believe in mainstream science. None of it relevant to the discussion, and often only your flawed interpretation of the person you are "discussing" with.

Basically your idea of a discussion is take what I say as fact, any dissenters from my sacred theories will be character assassinated.

[aeondaze]

I'd start a thread showing where fibonacci got his insight

No need. Come on, tell us about this miraculous event.

I've already asked where you're getting the information that Fibonacci 'ascertained' the structure of galaxies without a telescope, but you haven't been forthcoming.

So please, show us where this information exists. You're the one making the statement, it fits perfectly here with this material...

[Horn]

The Vandals are believed to have migrated from southern Scandinavia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia) to the area between the lower Oder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oder_River) and Vistula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vistula) rivers during the 2nd century BC...

Renaissance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance) writers characterized the Vandals as barbarians, "sacking and looting" Rome. This led to the use of the term vandalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandalism), to describe any senseless destruction, particularly the barbarian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarian) defacing of artworks.

....

[Neuro]

Indeed it would be interesting, fascinating I mean, to know WHY the mile was given this exact metric length in the first place. Because it is for sure, NOT arbitrary. The definition of the mile could have been either longer or shorter.... instead it is matching perfectly the need to understand sacred math/geometry, creating only a 0.1% error margin. ;DYou can find that the currently used mile was defined in 1959 on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile
I wonder though as they knew the exact golden ratio in 1959, why they defined the mile with 0.1% discrepancy? Why not define it as 1.61 km, instead of 1.609 km?

[Horn]

Why not define it as 1.61 km, instead of 1.609 km?

That's actually the question I was going to ask prior to, the more powerful meaning may be left in the remaining difference possibly.

As the choice is clearly towards that direction.

[Dogman]

That's actually the question I was going to ask prior to, the more powerful meaning may be left in the remaining difference possibly.

As the choice is clearly towards that direction.

Alien's needed unrecorded room to build their bases !

[Horn]

Alien's needed unrecorded room to build their bases !

or hide the entrance to the hollow/expanding earth wasp lair.

they don't fvck around with nice round numbers like those underling Cretins using the metric system. they are exacting bastards.

[aeondaze]

The question still stands. Its looking more and more like fabrication to me


No need. Come on, tell us about this miraculous event.

I've already asked where you're getting the information that Fibonacci 'ascertained' the structure of galaxies without a telescope, but you haven't been forthcoming.

So please, show us where this information exists. You're the one making the statement, it fits perfectly here with this material...

[expat4ever]

sorry

[Horn]

You need to learn how to start your own novel thread, expat. :)

[expat4ever]

I deleted it. It was pertinent to the sacred math stuff though.

[singular_me]

you just had to google image "fibonacci galaxy". And bingo!

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DHN.608 017080086365838%26pid%3D15.1&f=1


The question still stands. Its looking more and more like fabrication to me

so you see WHY sacred geometry shapes the Universe... but the fibonacci sequence is only one structure among others... now if you want to find out, just start delving into the topic by yourself and then you will see why math is the only language of the Universe and mathematically proves the "intelligent design" in nature, the maco and micro alike. Start visualizing the Cosmos through sacred math and even better your will align your thinking with it. Visualization causes emotional healing because the brain is WIRED on, the brain is an electric device that can tap into the the "whole that is" when dealing with absolute knowledge.

sacred geometry could bridge religions/spirituality (intuition) and atheism (logic), but the NWO has sure worked a lot to delay that - or worse made sure it NEVER happens. Divide and rule at its finest.

But not so strangely the NWO has embedded sacred geometry in so many buildings and locations... WHY ??? In the meantime, mainstream astrophysicists call the "Golden Ratio" observed in stars, an irrational number. This world is completely upside down.

if this even prompts real questions within you, just watch "secrets in plain sight".

I am done talking to you.

[singular_me]

I deleted it. It was pertinent to the sacred math stuff though.

I am sorry that you didnt feel ok sharing your 2 cents, and I understand why.

[Neuro]

you just had to google image "fibonacci galaxy". And bingo!

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DHN.608 017080086365838%26pid%3D15.1&f=1



so you see WHY sacred geometry shapes the Universe... but the fibonacci sequence is only one structure among others... now if you want to find out, just start delving into the topic by yourself and then you will see why math is the only language of the Universe and mathematically proves the "intelligent design" in nature, the maco and micro alike. Start visualizing the Cosmos through sacred math and even better your will align your thinking with it. Visualization causes emotional healing because the brain is WIRED on, the brain is an electric device that can tap into the the "whole that is" when dealing with absolute knowledge.

sacred geometry could bridge religions/spirituality (intuition) and atheism (logic), but the NWO has sure worked a lot to delay that - or worse made sure it NEVER happens. Divide and rule at its finest.

But not so strangely the NWO has embedded sacred geometry in so many buildings and locations... WHY ??? In the meantime, mainstream astrophysicists call the "Golden Ratio" observed in stars, an irrational number. This world is completely upside down.

if this even prompts real questions within you, just watch "secrets in plain sight".

I am done talking to you.
You are saying that math shapes the universe and nature. I would say it is the other way around. The Fibonacci sequence and golden ratio is significant and important, because you find it expressed in nature...

[singular_me]

the 0.1% discrepancy appears in the calculations based on the mile, not the mile itself, as you point out.

thats a pertinent question but I think absolute perfection doesnt exist, even the great pyramids are a very tiny bit off.






You can find that the currently used mile was defined in 1959 on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile
I wonder though as they knew the exact golden ratio in 1959, why they defined the mile with 0.1% discrepancy? Why not define it as 1.61 km, instead of 1.609 km?

[aeondaze]

you just had to google image "fibonacci galaxy". And bingo!

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DHN.608 017080086365838%26pid%3D15.1&f=1



so you see WHY sacred geometry shapes the Universe... but the fibonacci sequence is only one structure among others... now if you want to find out, just start delving into the topic by yourself and then you will see why math is the only language of the Universe and mathematically proves the "intelligent design" in nature, the maco and micro alike. Start visualizing the Cosmos through sacred math and even better your will align your thinking with it. Visualization causes emotional healing because the brain is WIRED on, the brain is an electric device that can tap into the the "whole that is" when dealing with absolute knowledge.

sacred geometry could bridge religions/spirituality (intuition) and atheism (logic), but the NWO has sure worked a lot to delay that - or worse made sure it NEVER happens. Divide and rule at its finest.

But not so strangely the NWO has embedded sacred geometry in so many buildings and locations... WHY ??? In the meantime, mainstream astrophysicists call the "Golden Ratio" observed in stars, an irrational number. This world is completely upside down.

if this even prompts real questions within you, just watch "secrets in plain sight".

I am done talking to you.

What the hell are you even talking about?

I specifically asked you where is this information regarding Fibonacci having 'visualised' or discovered the structure of the galaxy/universe without a telescope which is what you're asserting, not that galaxial spirals conform to the Fibonacci series.

So again, where is this information? It seems to me you're being deliberately evasive because this is in no part true.

[expat4ever]

I already have a T McKenna thread so Horn rightly called me out on it and although there was pertinent stuff in the video I will post it to my thread and not clog up yours.

The ancient Egyptions did already have this knowledge which is amazing in and of itself. Plato, Pathegoran, and Socrates as well as many other great names all studied at the temples where they were probably turned on to the knowledge. I havent studied all of the spiritual texts or any of them. IMO they are hard enough to read without trying to figure out the math behind them.

Phi and Pi are found in many of the Egyptian temples and were built that way on purpose. To inspire awe and for whatever reason they knew that things built with these ratios would open up the mind a certain way.. Sorry but thats the best way I know how to describe it.

There are many patterns in nature. From the Fibannocci sequence to the spiral galaxies. From the way cluster galaxies clump together to the way the neural networks is formed in the human brain. IMO it does show a connectedness to everything and a oneness with the universe. If it all started with a single point then why wouldnt it all be connected. "As above, so below" is a phase that sticks with me. As in heaven as it is on earth. I think the more we learn, the more we realize that everything is connected and those words do have meaning. As I try to figure things out out there I also look at them here on Earth to find the answers and vice versa.

Science says the big bang started it all. How? Why? Just have some faith that it happened? Or God created it all 14 billion years ago and just have some faith that he has a plan? So before the big bang there was just god and this tiny spec of dust floating around in nothingness thats cold and black? Who created god? He had to come from somewhere or something. The answers to those questions dont exist. I'm not sure the big bang is all that plausible. Had to be a reason why all of a sudden everything just exploded, from nothingness to 14 billion light years across in size.

But back to the math. Everything does seem to have an equatsion to it. Again I havent looked into everything but I am sure there is something to this sacred math. The spiral galazies although plentiful are not the only shaped galaxies out there. How are those others explained? Why are most galaxies saucer shaped instead of round like a ball?

I believe these questions and more should be asked on Iboga.. Someone needs to go to Costa Rica and find the answers.

[singular_me]

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DHN.608 017080086365838%26pid%3D15.1&f=1

he drew it... because he has SPENT years studying sacred math... then bingo, he was able to visualize it. It is only several hundred years later that when telescopes (and powerful enough to see far into the outer space) were invented that they validated fibonacci. Since the telescope was born after fibonacci, so fibonacci proves IT.

however your question is like the glass half empty/full theory.

no go away, I do not want to interact with you for now.


What the hell are you even talking about?

I specifically asked you where is this information regarding Fibonacci having 'visualised' or discovered the structure of the galaxy/universe without a telescope
which is what you're asserting, not that galaxial spirals conform to the Fibonacci series.

So again, where is this information? It seems to me you're being deliberately evasive because this is in no part true.

[singular_me]

impressed by your long posting so well written.

when I heard about all this, the first time I mean, to me it was so self-evident... that I immediately embarked on this path of no return. dont know where it will lead me yet but that is not too important as they always will be question mark somewhere in the picture. But more importantly I know that this powerful knowledge allows the PTBs to stay in power and the only way to take this power away from them is to spread the knowledge.

it is the discrepancy of knowledge that causes evil... knowledge itself is absolutely neutral as it depends on the intent.

keeping an eye on your thread :)


I already have a T McKenna thread so Horn rightly called me out on it and although there was pertinent stuff in the video I will post it to my thread and not clog up yours.

The ancient Egyptions did already have this knowledge which is amazing in and of itself. Plato, Pathegoran, and Socrates as well as many other great names all studied at the temples where they were probably turned on to the knowledge. I havent studied all of the spiritual texts or any of them. IMO they are hard enough to read without trying to figure out the math behind them.

Phi and Pi are found in many of the Egyptian temples and were built that way on purpose. To inspire awe and for whatever reason they knew that things built with these ratios would open up the mind a certain way.. Sorry but thats the best way I know how to describe it.

There are many patterns in nature. From the Fibannocci sequence to the spiral galaxies. From the way cluster galaxies clump together to the way the neural networks is formed in the human brain. IMO it does show a connectedness to everything and a oneness with the universe. If it all started with a single point then why wouldnt it all be connected. "As above, so below" is a phase that sticks with me. As in heaven as it is on earth. I think the more we learn, the more we realize that everything is connected and those words do have meaning. As I try to figure things out out there I also look at them here on Earth to find the answers and vice versa.

Science says the big bang started it all. How? Why? Just have some faith that it happened? Or God created it all 14 billion years ago and just have some faith that he has a plan? So before the big bang there was just god and this tiny spec of dust floating around in nothingness thats cold and black? Who created god? He had to come from somewhere or something. The answers to those questions dont exist. I'm not sure the big bang is all that plausible. Had to be a reason why all of a sudden everything just exploded, from nothingness to 14 billion light years across in size.

But back to the math. Everything does seem to have an equatsion to it. Again I havent looked into everything but I am sure there is something to this sacred math. The spiral galazies although plentiful are not the only shaped galaxies out there. How are those others explained? Why are most galaxies saucer shaped instead of round like a ball?

I believe these questions and more should be asked on Iboga.. Someone needs to go to Costa Rica and find the answers.

[aeondaze]

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DHN.608 017080086365838%26pid%3D15.1&f=1

he drew it... because he has SPENT years studying sacred math... then bingo, he was able to visualize it. It is only several hundred years later that when telescopes (and powerful enough to see far into the outer space) were invented that they validated fibonacci. Since the telescope was born after fibonacci, so fibonacci proves IT.

however your question is like the glass half empty/full theory.

no go away, I do not want to interact with you for now.

Your dismissive abruptness doesn't help your cause!

This is a public forum, I know you seem to forget that and think you're entitled to set the rules around here or interpret them as you see fit.

Please show me where he drew it, and show me where he specifically mentioned this supposed drawing in relation to galaxies and the universe.

Just because you say he did doesn't mean that he necessarily did. :rolleyes:

[mick silver]

6+6=12-6=6

[singular_me]

nope, Numbers came first, that is the whole point with sacred math, that is why they are **sacred**... meaning the spirit is first, then matter... all religions at least agree on that one.

you stance make only sense if agreeing that Life is a coincidence.




You are saying that math shapes the universe and nature. I would say it is the other way around. The Fibonacci sequence and golden ratio is significant and important, because you find it expressed in nature...

[Horn]

Someone needs to go to Costa Rica and find the answers.

I've a habit of doing that, the answers are here,

but am still waiting for aeon to tell me why a 6 is shaped like a spiral galaxy, before revealing my sources.

[Santa]

Yes, they the snails don't grow their shape like that because they choose to do so, their is neither a field forcing them to grow this way, they are genetically programmed to grow like that, because it is the most efficient way of enlarging the shell the most, and evolution selected those individuals that did it most efficiently. See no magical mathematical field theories are required only a bit of rational thinking...

No field involved in the way snails grow their shape? How about the"The ambient charge field." This is just a snippet of the article. It discusses how enzymes can build or mutate DNA due to photon information interacting with them from the environment.

http://mileswmathis.com/evol.pdf


For those just getting here, the charge field is a real field of photons that exists everywhere in the
universe. This field is denser in galaxies and even denser around stars. On the surface of planets like
the Earth, it is quite dense indeed, since it is recycled through the planet on defined paths. The Sun
emits a stupendous amount of charge out into the Solar System, and all the planets and moons channel
that charge into their bodies at their poles. It is the spin of the sphere that allows them to do this. The
charge photons then channel though the interior of the bodies and are re-emitted, most heavily at the
equator. The faster the body is spinning, the more charge it recycles, and the more charge it emits at
the equator as a fraction of the whole.
This charge field is neither new nor theoretical. Mainstream science knows about it, generally, though
they haven't incorporated it into the unified field theories in the right ways or discovered that it is
channeled in this way. It is the same charge field that exists in quantum mechanics, represented by the
plus on the proton and the minus on the electron. That charge is the same as this charge. They also
know about these photons, though they usually dismiss them as heat. Heat is now defined as molecular
motion or ionic motion, but it is actually a function of charge density. It is a function of the photons
present, not of the ions or molecules. For more on this, you may read
my other papers
.
What this means for our current problem is that charge is moving through and around any organism we
could be studying. It extends beyond that organism like a magnetic potential, and links that organism
to everything around it, including organic and inorganic matter. What is more, that charge—being real
photons—carries information with it. Just as visible light carries information to your eyes, invisible
photons carry information to all your cells. Therefore, in some sense, your cells can “see” everything
around you. An organism doesn't need eyes and a brain to know things about its environment, and we
already recognize that from the lower organisms, which have neither. The simplest organisms respond
to their environment, since the cell has ways of doing that directly. In many instances, it does that by
recycling ions, but of course in my theory, all ions are carried by photons. The photon stream is the
stream that ultimately carries all ions. So, again, mainstream science already knows about charge and
about the method of communication I am talking about, they just haven't understood exactly (or even
roughly) how it works.
You will say that interior cells in your body can't get information this way, but they can. All bodies are
partially transparent to photons and charge. Remember, although the cells may be existing edge to
edge, atoms and molecules aren't. Even the densest rocks are full of space, and that is also known. So
these charge photons can take their information anywhere in the body directly.
You can already see how that will help evolutionary biologists, by giving them a means of
communication between the organism and its environment. Once you have this communication, you
don't have to explain every response as an accident.

[singular_me]

fibonacci came before the telescope. He proves it.

You do not understand, aeon... knowing about sacred maths helps design patterns found in nature BEFORE one can witness them. He came up with a sequence that is Cosmic. I am sure he even didnt think of the galaxies when pondering his sequence. he was just guided by is passion about sacred math.


Your dismissive abruptness doesn't help your cause!

This is a public forum, I know you seem to forget that and think you're entitled to set the rules around here or interpret them as you see fit.

Please show me where he drew it, and show me where he specifically mentioned this supposed drawing in relation to galaxies and the universe.

Just because you say he did doesn't mean that he necessarily did. :rolleyes:

[aeondaze]

nope, Numbers came first, that is the whole point with sacred math, that is why they are **sacred**... meaning the spirit is first, then matter... all religions at least agree on that one. And the spirit is the Aether, the womb of everything.

you stance make only sense if agreeing that Life is a coincidence.

Nope, numbers didn't come first. Its another one of your absurd justifications you use to bolster a ridiculous argument.

Numbers are nothing more than the quantification of a particular phenomena. It us as humans that give it this specific value to model theories and gain insight. The universe itself is indifferent to numbers.

All the golden ratio tells us is that certain phenomena prefer to organise in this ratio for reason of efficiency and minimizing entropy. This is the real secret, not some outlandish theory about 'sacred' numbers.

[aeondaze]

fibonacci came before the telescope. He proves it.

You do not understand, aeon... knowing about sacred maths helps design patterns in nature BEFORE one can witness them. He came up with a sequence that is Cosmic. I am sure he even didn't think of the galaxies when pondering his sequence.

So what you are saying is there in no proof that Fibonacci ascertained the shape of the galaxies and universe before the telescope, else you would have by now shown where this is credited.

Fibonacci wasn't the discoverer of the golden ratio.

It is accredited to Arabic scholars who may well have had access to Greek writings who in turn probably received this insight from the Egyptians.

Who knows how long other people before the ancient Egyptians had known about this as well.

[Horn]

Santa needs to see that reverse entropy video u posted earlier, expat.

It will help his sleigh.

[singular_me]

here is something that you may find scary, Mick

POSTED IN SERPO'S THREAD: 440hz Music vs 432Hz

Plato and Pythagoras. this vid explains why even music is based on sacred geometry and has been corrupted... plus other 432 related specifics.
450.000 views

432Hz
43200 seconds in a day (12 hours)
432 x 432 = 186,624 = speed of light.
sincerely if you are not on awe, I surely am

Now listen to this:
sumerian 12 (number of perfection) x 12 = 144
12 apostles
great pyramid built with 144,000 stones
the bible says that there will be 144,000 chosen ones redeemed after the apocalyse
144,000 divided by 432 =333,333 = masonic 33
33.333 x 13 steps composing masonic pyramid = 432.9

only math can save the world.

if you wanna watch the vid: http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?71739-440hz-Music-vs-432Hz&p=759631&viewfull=1#post759631


6+6=12-6=6


NATURAL NUMBER, SYMBOLIC ???

144000 is a natural number. It has significance in several religious movements. In the Mayan calendar, a baktun is a period of 144,000 days.

-----------------------

So the answer to the question “who are the 144,000?” will depend on which interpretive approach you take to the book of Revelation. With the exception of the futurist approach, all of the other approaches interpret the 144,000 symbolically, as representative of the church and the number 144,000 being symbolic of the totality—i.e., the complete number—of the church. Yet when taken at face value: “Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel” (Revelation 7:4), nothing in the passage leads to interpreting the 144,000 as anything but a literal number of Jews—12,000 taken from every tribe of the “sons of Israel.” The New Testament offers no clear cut text replacing Israel with the church.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/144000.html#ixzz3RgWDgyF9

[Horn]

http://m.jneurosci.org/content/20/6/2369

[singular_me]

yes, the state of the planet I guess


http://m.jneurosci.org/content/20/6/2369

[expat4ever]

great pyramid built with 144,000 stones
Closer to 2.3 million I think.


432 x 432 = 186,624 = speed of light.

Interesting that they picked that number but I have no idea why. In the McKenna thread he says that the speed of light varies and they have known about this but it creates a problem if it isnt constant. Something about the theory of relativity falling apart.

Going to watch the vid you posted.

[singular_me]

I double checked before posting....

The Great Pyramid - 144000 Casing Stones
https://encrypted.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=great+pyramid++144%2C000+stones+&oq=great+pyramid++144%2C000+stones+&gs_l=hp.3...4049.9251.0.10065.3.3.0.0.0.0.380.615. 0j2j0j1.3.0.msedr...0...1c.1j2.61.hp..3.0.0.0.Iev4 Jtze5aY

I know the speed of light varies... but thats an average, I guess.

will watch your vid tomorrow morning with my tea



Closer to 2.3 million I think.

Interesting that they picked that number but I have no idea why. In the McKenna thread he says that the speed of light varies and they have known about this but it creates a problem if it isnt constant. Something about the theory of relativity falling apart.

Going to watch the vid you posted.

[expat4ever]

Nothing earth shattering in the video I posted, just more useless facts LOL. Interesting about the casing stones as I have never heard that before.

I really liked the fractals at the end of the video too.

[Horn]

No field involved in the way snails grow their shape? How about the"The ambient charge field." This is just a snippet of the article. It discusses how enzymes can build or mutate DNA due to photon information interacting with them from the environment.

http://mileswmathis.com/evol.pdf

That's like the electric universe nail in gravity's coffin for me, good find.

Don't lose your spiraling magnetic current charm, Santa


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsLkL8DTHeg

[singular_me]

good find santa, photon information (Light) shaping the DNA.... should biology be too regarded as an esoteric topic now ???

while I wouldnt mind to have a thread regrouping esoteric topics, it is obvious that all topics would fall in that category in the end, because when one starts digging real deep one realizes that they is a mystery attached to everything.

[singular_me]

rephrasing my (poor) answer to you.... yes the speed of light is constant when observed in vacuum, and physicists have made the grave mistake to assume that space is a vacuum.

but that shouldnt be discredit the vacuum experiment since it is accurate. Most of what I read says that the Speed of Light is 186,000 miles per second... but it is rounded down. 186,282.397 miles per second

Faster-Than-Light Particles Question Einstein's Theory
Sep 22, 2011 .... the tiny particles were clocked at 300,006 kilometres per second, slightly faster than the speed of light, the researchers said... "The neutrinos arrived 60 nanoseconds earlier that the 2.3 milliseconds taken by light," Ereditato told AFP.
http://news.discovery.com/space/history-of-space/faster-speed-of-light-110922.htm

There is not a huge difference at all speed per sec wise, but what matters here is that since the cosmos is measurable in "light years/parsec" 60nanosecs mean that all distances are VERY wrong.

sacred geometry doesnt establish distances but patterns in numbers... the 432 x 432 = 186,624 = speed of light




Interesting that they picked that number but I have no idea why. In the McKenna thread he says that the speed of light varies and they have known about this but it creates a problem if it isnt constant. Something about the theory of relativity falling apart.

[aeondaze]

rephrasing my answer to you.... yes the speed of light is constant when observed in vacuum, and physicists have made the grave mistake to assume that space is a vacuum.


Faster-Than-Light Particles Question Einstein's Theory
Sep 22, 2011 .... the tiny particles were clocked at 300,006 kilometres per second, slightly faster than the speed of light, the researchers said... "The neutrinos arrived 60 nanoseconds earlier that the 2.3 milliseconds taken by light," Ereditato told AFP.

There is not a huge difference at all speed per sec wise, but what matters here is that since the cosmos is measurable in "light years" 60nanosecs means that all distances are VERY wrong.

There is no mistake. Space is the closest we can humanly come to a perfect vacuum.


Outer space is not a perfect vacuum, but a tenuous plasma awash with charged particles, electromagnetic fields, and the occasional star.

Outer space has very low density and pressure, and is the closest physical approximation of a perfect vacuum. But no vacuum is truly perfect, not even in interstellar space, where there are still a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter.

This guy is talking about neutrinos, which are a different class of subatomic particle to light which is composed of photons.

Quantum mechanics hints at the notion that certain particles might appear to defy classical or relativistic physics.


Certain phenomena in quantum mechanics, such as quantum entanglement, might give the superficial impression of allowing communication of information faster than light. According to the no-communication theorem these phenomena do not allow true communication; they only let two observers in different locations see the same system simultaneously, without any way of controlling what either sees. Wavefunction collapse can be viewed as an epiphenomenon of quantum decoherence, which in turn is nothing more than an effect of the underlying local time evolution of the wavefunction of a system and all of its environment. Since the underlying behaviour doesn't violate local causality or allow FTL it follows that neither does the additional effect of wavefunction collapse, whether real or apparent.

The uncertainty principle implies that individual photons may travel for short distances at speeds somewhat faster (or slower) than c, even in a vacuum; this possibility must be taken into account when enumerating Feynman diagrams for a particle interaction.[27] However, it was shown in 2011 that a single photon may not travel faster than c.

Can't compare apples with oranges or in this case photons with neutrinos... o)(~

Se essentially what you're saying is that all the theory is backed up with experimental results...sounds about right to me, but sadly it destroys your naive assumptions and gross misunderstandings on the nature of matter.

Anyhow, where is this supposed proof that Fibonacci somehow defined the structure of galaxies and the universe in the 12 to 13 century without the aid of a telescope.

When you finally find this definitive proof, be a good girl and post it in its correct place over at The esoteric thread (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?82057-The-esoteric-thread)

:cool:

[Horn]

Space is the closest we can humanly come to a perfect vacuum.

Space in general, or selectively?

[singular_me]

space is not a vacuum... it is filled with Aether and electro-magnetism/plasma, matter aside. The Aether is the conduit of electricity.

your consistent endorsement of mainstream academia will not get you far with me.

Just like your assertion that the ozone hole was real, while I proved that it is another hoax going along with the global warming farce

The Electric Universe theory is my cup of tea by the way, still not fully recognized but it just is a matter of time as current notions of astrophysics are about to become history



There is no mistake. Space is the closest we can humanly come to a perfect vacuum.

[aeondaze]

space is not a vacuum... it is filled with Aether and electro-magnetism, matter aside. The Aether is the conduit of electricity.

your consistent endorsement of mainstream academia will not get you far with me.

Just like your assertion that the ozone hole was real, while I proved that it is another hoax going along with the global warming farce

The Electric Universe theory is my cup of tea by the way, still not fully recognized but it just is a matter of time as current notions of astrophysics are about to become history

Nope, your wrong again on ALL accounts. Outer space is the closest thing to a perfect vacuum.

You never proved the ozone hole was a hoax at all. All you said was "I suspect it was a hoax".

See this is your problem, you think that a mere assertion on your behalf qualifies as proof.

Where is the actual proof that Fibonacci arrived at the structure of the universe without the use of telescopes?

This is an absurdity!

[Cebu_4_2]

No such thing as a vacuum, what your calling vacuum is simply a lack of pressure.

[Horn]

Outer space is the closest thing to a perfect vacuum.

Their could be a future for you in Hoover sales.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma7pcl-J32c

[Neuro]

No field involved in the way snails grow their shape? How about the"The ambient charge field." This is just a snippet of the article. It discusses how enzymes can build or mutate DNA due to photon information interacting with them from the environment.

http://mileswmathis.com/evol.pdf
It is nothing revolutionary with how environmental stimuli interacting with the expression of DNA. For instance if you grow up in cold climate you tend to have a greater proportion of superficial body fat. Or those babies born during or just after Dutch Famine became shorter as adults than other Dutch babies, and brothers and sisters, but not only that their children were also shorter. I haven't read the article yet, I will download it though...

[Neuro]

No field involved in the way snails grow their shape? How about the"The ambient charge field." This is just a snippet of the article. It discusses how enzymes can build or mutate DNA due to photon information interacting with them from the environment.

http://mileswmathis.com/evol.pdf
Ok I have read it now. Sure enzymes shaping how DNA is expressed or suppressed, most probably is affected by photons from radio waves, to infrared (heat), to visible light, to x-Rays and gamma rays! And I do like his explanation for mutations occurring after exposure to x-Rays more than the mainstream notion of atoms getting knocked off the DNA molecule, and not being repaired, but I think it is way more frequent that the enzymes change action after other environmental stimuli like chemical changes have occurred, iow toxins, pH and ions. Anyhow he does describe a pathway for a more direct, quicker and more purposeful evolution beyond mere chance mutations of DNA, which resonates with me at a deeper level (it appears to be correct).

Back to the snail, if you were to build a house out of your body secretions and you couldn't go out of the house, only stand at the door and eat there and secret calcium deposits at the door, your house would look like the snails too as you grew in an exponential manner, any other manner of growth would be suboptimal, any snail that would deposit shell in front of the door deserves a Darwin Award. LOL! There is no magical force field required that the snail taps into to make the snail grow it like it does. However during times of starvation enzymes that normally would direct the snails cells to secret calcific deposits switches these processes off and it doesn't grow, quite possibly the enzymes are switched on by light too (at the opening), so that it only lies down shell where it is useful...

Galaxies appearance I suggest is due to their expansion and rotation over time, IOW the gravity of a spiral galaxy is not nearly sufficient to withstand the centripetal forces of its rotation...

See no magical thinking ala 4 year olds is required to explain some structures/organisms growth according to the Fibbonacci formula...

[Neuro]

No such thing as a vacuum, what your calling vacuum is simply a lack of pressure.
Yes vacuums are a strange "thing", as they are defined by an absence... There isn't of course much evidence for aether, despite Singulars insistence, and quite a lot of research and thought have gone into its presence during the last centuries. I am instead going to suggest a different theory: What we think of as Vacuum is filled with Internet trolls and other invisible soulless unbeings, it really could be shockfull of what I suggest. And I invite anyone to prove me wrong!

[Santa]

Ok I have read it now. Sure enzymes shaping how DNA is expressed or suppressed, most probably is affected by photons from radio waves, to infrared (heat), to visible light, to x-Rays and gamma rays! And I do like his explanation for mutations occurring after exposure to x-Rays more than the mainstream notion of atoms getting knocked off the DNA molecule, and not being repaired, but I think it is way more frequent that the enzymes change action after other environmental stimuli like chemical changes have occurred, iow toxins, pH and ions. Anyhow he does describe a pathway for a more direct, quicker and more purposeful evolution beyond mere chance mutations of DNA, which resonates with me at a deeper level (it appears to be correct).

Back to the snail, if you were to build a house out of your body secretions and you couldn't go out of the house, only stand at the door and eat there and secret calcium deposits at the door, your house would look like the snails too as you grew in an exponential manner, any other manner of growth would be suboptimal, any snail that would deposit shell in front of the door deserves a Darwin Award. LOL! There is no magical force field required that the snail taps into to make the snail grow it like it does. However during times of starvation enzymes that normally would direct the snails cells to secret calcific deposits switches these processes off and it doesn't grow, quite possibly the enzymes are switched on by light too (at the opening), so that it only lies down shell where it is useful...

Galaxies appearance I suggest is due to their expansion and rotation over time, IOW the gravity of a spiral galaxy is not nearly sufficient to withstand the centripetal forces of its rotation...

See no magical thinking ala 4 year olds is required to explain some structures/organisms growth according to the Fibbonacci formula...


http://youtu.be/ahXIMUkSXX0

[singular_me]

bold: paradoxical atheist thinking... "strange" ... "irrational"... "coincidence"

aether, is what is called dark matter, one only just has to agree on the term.
Evidence for dark matter in the inner Milky Way
http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1112816010/dark-matter-and-antimatter-measured-in-space-040413/

Scientists have determined the existence of dark matter based on its effects on visible matter and the structure of the universe. http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/36372/20150209/evidence-of-dark-matter-found-in-galaxy-x.htm#ixzz3RqGmMx7d
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/15/dark-matter-signal_n_6316174.html

Aether is the womb of all life in the cosmos, just like a fetus spends 9 months in the darkness of the uterus. 9... the number of completion in sacred geometry. :)

Strings in quantum theory that you asserted being improvable and elusive are in facts the evidence of sacred geometry in action, strings shape the Universe.

trolls: that was my point pages ago, you just go after the messenger(s). instead of addressing the "strangeness/esoteric part of Life", sorry, you make it clear once again. With you there will never be any debate at all other than a status quo.

http://www2.pacific.edu/sis/culture/Graphics/icebergbluegran.jpg
by definition, atheism is not willing to deal what isn't known or invisible. It can only be proven wrong at some point as challenges always pop up from the unknown/invisible. Humanity is still no where, knowledge wise as the education sector has taught lies for centuries long.

The gravitational theory which you endorse is about to go bunk, yet you do not see it. Astrophysics as we know it is on its death bed, just like anything else that is supported by monopoly academia.

It is like my stance in the pyramid thread whose argument was based on the the acknowledgment of previous civilizations. The oldest skeleton is 150K years old, and for you, human civilization started 5000 years ago. Meaning that we have a 145K year black hole in the history of mankind. If we have achieved so much in 5K years, it is obvious that "something" happened. Yet you trust mainstream academia saying that humans have remained cavemen for 145K years. This absolutely ludicrous.

In the beginning was the Word says the bible, Adam and Eve were created the 6th day, meaning that frequencies/Numbers came first.... Let there be Light: the photon explanation influencing the DNA offered by Santa which you disagree with.

I am used to be criticized by both sides of the fence however. Sure a theory that is bridging both ends of the spectrum is somehow 'unthinkable"... anyone arguing in favor of this, must be either a false prophet of a troll.

I am fine being called so though, but at least I dont bury my head in the sand.


Yes vacuums are a strange "thing", as they are defined by an absence... There isn't of course much evidence for aether, despite Singulars insistence, and quite a lot of research and thought have gone into its presence during the last centuries. I am instead going to suggest a different theory: What we think of as Vacuum is filled with Internet trolls and other invisible soulless unbeings, it really could be shockfull of what I suggest. And I invite anyone to prove me wrong!

[Horn]

Galaxies appearance I suggest is due to their expansion and rotation over time, IOW the gravity of a spiral galaxy is not nearly sufficient to withstand the centripetal forces of its rotation...

See no magical thinking ala 4 year olds is required to explain some structures/organisms growth according to the Fibbonacci formula...

There are supposed to be larger dense gravity signature in center of every galaxy per newton, without the center focal point it could not achieve its spiral. ie: simply spread like butter. Its the reason for asumptiins made at the center of this milky one.

Gravity is the chain on that theorized wheel.

Otra conductor

[Neuro]

Singular that entire post that you quoted from me was intended as a joke with tongue in cheek, but I'm not surprised you didn't get it. Apart from that I see you again lie about me being an atheist, which apparently any one of us that doesn't share your outlandish beliefs may be. Then you go on and prescribe other beliefs onto me such as civilization starting 5,000 years ago, while you have evidence for a rather advanced civilization at Göbekli Tepe dating back 12k yo. I visited ancient Troy a bit more than a year ago and it's first civilization dates back to 3,500 BC... Then what skeleton are you talking about being 150,000 year old? First Homo Sapiens Sapiens skeleton? Well if that is what you believe then you should revise your knowledge. A skull appearing to be Sapiens Sapiens has been found in China dated to be 200k yo. The reason there is nothing found suggesting a civilization between 200 kyo and 12 kyo is because population was very spread out and people managed to survive as hunters gatherers, living in small groups tribes, most of that time large parts of the Northern Hemisphere was covered in ice. What today is temperate and subtropical zones were then arctic and subarctic weather zones, apart from that very little precipitation came, as atmospheric water was tied up in ice. Alas farming was virtually impossible over most of the globe. No agriculture=no residence=no civilization. It really is that simple. Then technological development was very slow initially as populations became increasingly agrarian. Until 2000 years BC most people were still using stone tools, as bronze tools were too soft, but looked nicer. Then Hittites managed to melt iron, but really most people's lives were virtually unchanged until 200-150 years ago with the industrial revolution, and then about 100 years ago with the electronics revolution (radio-telephone), which has really picked up speed the last 20-30 years ago.

Can you see that technological development has been exponential? The reason for that is that you can't invent the lets say the petrol engine before you have invented iron, precision machining, copper wire for generators to generate the electricity to generate the spark in the spark plug, refining oil into petrol, pumping oil from the ground, etc., etc. After making the first petrol engine it was quite easy to make the first cars and aeroplanes. The house I live in Sweden was built in the 1880's all nails in the house were hand smithed, all window frames are handcarved, all floor boards hand sawn. They were not more stupid than us. I found newspapers in the walls from the time, their language was more elegant using a more varied vocabulary then we use today... They just weren't as technologically as advanced as us, and therefor had to put more work into the things they wanted.

Btw I didn't disagree with Miles Mathis photon theory as purveyed by Santa, I agreed with it, and expanded it to include also chemical influences. Is your misreading and assumptions about what I write intentional, or is it your understanding that is lacking?

[Neuro]

There are supposed to be larger dense gravity signature in center of every galaxy per newton, without the center focal point it could not achieve its spiral. ie: simply spread like butter. Its the reason for asumptiins made at the center of this milky one.

Gravity is the chain on that theorized wheel.

Otra conductor
At the very center of any massive structure gravity should be zero no?

[Horn]

At the very center of any massive structure gravity should be zero no?

Newtonian physics requires larger or more denser objects on centers of structures. As so modeling our immediate solar system on up to galactic scales. Typical as above, so below, but different nonsense.

The central gravity would lend to the centrifugal or exit rotation. Efficiency law kicks in.

All visible evidence of other galaxies and our own points to them being spun from an external force. Vacuum, as a way of describing space falls short by massive measures.

[Neuro]

Newtonian physics requires larger or more denser objects on centers of structures. As so modeling our immediate solar system on up to galactic scales. Typical as above, so below, but different nonsense.

The central gravity would lend to the centrifugal or exit rotation. Efficiency law kicks in.

All visible evidence of other galaxies and our own points to them being spun from an external force. Vacuum, as a way of describing space falls short by massive measures.
An electrical magnetical field inherent to the Galaxy in a vortex could do the job of spinning charged starlets around very quickly in the center, pulling protons in on the negative side and electrons on the positive. Once the starlet has gained enough mass and speed and get too close to the edge of the vortex it gets slung out, the further out from the center it gets, gravity increases and bends the trajectory, probably around golden ratio (0.61xradius) gravity pull is at its peak and the further out it goes from there gravity from Galaxy is reduced gradually, and the trajectory becomes straighter. Sounds like a perfect recipe for building a spiral galaxy?

Out where we are we are at 3rd or 4th generation of stars, the previous materials has gone supernova, so we also have a nice mixture of heavier elements to build rock planets, with life, that may become intelligent to the point where we can build nukelar boms to destroy all intelligent life on our spot!

[Horn]

To all things global you are getting warmer, a Holy Trinity exists.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7305&stc=1


The intriguing image below shows the heart of M51a as taken by the Wide Field and Planetary Camera of Hubble

Now all things considered, if we SHOULD have heaven on Earth,

one must be reminded that there are only two competing disciplines present in any trinity. north to south, east to west.

the master of those 2 is separate and should not be included in the balance.

no more math is needed than this 1<=>1

[singular_me]

I am not surprised you dont get it either... that is what you project, sorry... and the impression I have of you is mine, cannot be tagged as a lie.

My data is VERY different than yours, we will forever disagree. 200k vs 150k is trivial... it only makes the black hole bigger in my view, however.


Singular that entire post that you quoted from me was intended as a joke with tongue in cheek, but I'm not surprised you didn't get it. Apart from that I see you again lie about me being an atheist, which apparently any one of us that doesn't share your outlandish beliefs may be.

[singular_me]

the latest by secrets in plain sight guy
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10991057_10153597137067977_4037999034433349147_n.j pg?oh=046e074925c794d8a611b8c949032a32&oe=5557E4B3&__gda__=1435658149_a3285aeca574d07f59b3dfec138f6f8 4

[aeondaze]

My data is VERY different than yours, we will forever disagree. 200k vs 150k is trivial... it only makes the black hole bigger in my view, however.

You don't have any data per se, just misguided assumptions, ignorant conclusions and gross misrepresentations.

[Horn]

I don't discount maths inclusion into the world and universe, things that may explain balances such as the moon's perfect alignment with the Sun in eclipse. multiples upon multiples scales with wide variables present. Its probably about as uniform as is the face of the earth (not very).

Good video explaining math in cosmology.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoNaVb7b-tg

[Neuro]

I am not surprise you dont get it either... that is what you project, sorry... and the impression I have of you is mine, cannot be tagged as a lie. My data is VERY different than yours, we will forever disagree. 200k vs 150k is trivial... it only makes the black hole bigger in my view, however.So you think it is ok to go around calling people names, because you in your mind think they project a certain feeling to you? Obviously your social training is lacking... Hypothetically would you think it is ok for me to call you for instance a "Devil Worshipper"? Really it is bad manners going around blurting out what you feel is their belief system, especially if you are wrong about it like you are in my case, and your error has been pointed out repeatedly. Can't you see that?

As far as your data. Do you disagree with the iceage ending 12.000 years ago, making agriculture virtually impossible over large parts of earth until then? It really isn't my fault that your data and your assumptions are assbackwards... Neither your lack of ability to discuss with someone who happen to disagree with you... Which makes you manufacture all kinds of bullshit excuses as to why you can't argue with someone (they are atheist, don't agree with you on nazi occultism, says that Cro Magnon appeared 200 kyo in China, says the iceage ended 12,000 years ago). Simply speaking you are not prepared to put up your cherished delusions for a rational debate, instead you slump to emotional mudslinging, inventing any type of excuse why your opponent is not worthy of your attention...

[singular_me]

that is why you believe(d) in the ozone hole that doesnt exist.

nor do I expect anyone who doesnt understand the nazi **reversed swastika** and what it actually means, to grasp what I am saying either. So yes indeed data is radically incompatible



You don't have any data per se, just misguided assumptions, ignorant conclusions and gross misrepresentations.

[singular_me]

many are not ready yet for the Electric Universe theory, Sacred Geometry, the real nature of Light and Electromagnetism...


I don't discount maths inclusion into the world and universe, things that may explain balances such as the moon's perfect alignment with the Sun in eclipse. multiples upon multiples scales with wide variables present. Its probably about as uniform as is the face of the earth (not very).

Good video explaining math in cosmology.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoNaVb7b-tg

[singular_me]

I am not calling anybody names as most of your posts on the topic have an agnostic-atheistic tone. And the most blatant was when questioned about the reversed swastika. EDIT: I am stating this to show that our views are not compatible

I dont buy your accusation: it is like saying a democrat that s/he sounds like a republican or otherwise... if this sounds like name calling to you, we maybe the planet deserves the NWO impending doom. EDIT:I dont regard as name calling statements saying that my views are outlandish, misguided assumptions, ignorant conclusions and gross misrepresentations.

bridging spirituality and atheism/materialism will be soon considered as the new evil/threat... I am perfectly aware of that.

But is is possible that you fit in the category described by Sheldrake as he points out several scientific dogmas which prevent science from overcoming its materialistic world view. Which is why the whole academic/mainstream scientific field as we know it must be abandoned.

the sheldrake video is in the terence mckenna thread



So you think it is ok to go around calling people names, because you in your mind think they project a certain feeling to you? Obviously your social training is lacking... Hypothetically would you think it is ok for me to call you for instance a "Devil Worshipper"? Really it is bad manners going around blurting out what you feel is their belief system, especially if you are wrong about it like you are in my case, and your error has been pointed out repeatedly. Can't you see that?

[Dogman]

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[aeondaze]

bridging spirituality and atheism will be soon considered as the new evil... I am perfectly aware of that.

What the hell are you talking about, seriously WTF is wrong with you? Do you even understand what you write or for that matter think?

Is there even one single neuron available in your pea brain left for any form of critical thought?

If you are capable of forming a coherent thought for just a minute, explain what you mean by this.

"Bridging spirituality with atheism will soon be considered the new evil" and your well aware of this, right?

What does it even mean?

While we're at it, you've failed countless times to provide substantial proof that Fibonacci somehow discovered the structure o fthe universe without telescopes.

I'm calling you out...

BULLSHIT

[singular_me]

No matter how I'd explain this you still wouldnt see what I mean.

check out the sheldtake video in the mackenna thread. He states that sciences as taught are leading mankind to an impasse and a possible downfall as they promote the separateness of matter and spirituality. Reality is Consciousness, spiritual in essence. There are details I disagree with in the video, but he really sums up the rock bottom line.

Thats is why you/others do not see that sacred math is the bridge between the two, intelligent design explained mathematically. Meanwhile all religious scriptures are filled with math that even their own followers so rarely comprehend.






If you are capable of forming a coherent thought for just a minute, explain what you mean by this.

"Bridging spirituality with atheism will soon be considered the new evil" and your well aware of this, right?

[Neuro]

I am not calling anybody names as most of your posts on the topic have an agnostic-atheistic tone. And the most blatant was when questioned about the reversed swastika. EDIT: I am stating this to show that our views are not compatible

I dont buy your accusation: it is like saying a democrat that s/he sounds like a republican or otherwise... if this sounds like name calling to you, we maybe the planet deserves the NWO impending doom. EDIT:I dont regard as name calling statements saying that my views are outlandish.

bridging spirituality and atheism will be soon considered as the new evil... I am perfectly aware of that.

But is is possible that you fit in the category described by Sheldrake as he points out several scientific dogmas which prevent science from overcoming its materialistic world view. Which is why the whole academic/mainstream scientific field must be abandoned.

the sheldrake video is in the terence mckenna thread
You don't get it do you? I am not atheist nor agnostic. To my knowledge I haven't expressed much of my beliefs at all, I prefer to keep it that way, as I consider them a private affair between myself and God, obviously it is something you can't respect...

I really don't know what you are talking about re the reversed Swastika, what kind of repulsive opinion regarding it have I expressed, which prevents you from discussing anything with me? Or is this just another invented opinion of what I stand for from you? What's with your obsession with Swastikas and Nazism anyway, they lost the war and was vilified ever since, while the victors were glorified with no shadow falling on their warcrimes, which they continued to commit ever since...

[Neuro]

Bridging numerology with atheism and all major religions does sound evil indeed. It sounds like the New World Order religion in the making...

[Horn]

dedicating a possible theme song that fits here!
;)

While not universal in its application to the thread in its entirety, at this particular point in space time it fits a jig.

[Horn]

Bridging numerology with atheism and all major religions does sound evil indeed. It sounds like the New World Order religion in the making...

I'm just not feelin it, I guess?

If it were powerful enought I think it would've already been the order of the day from Pythagoras time defeatin Christianity. It does have a capture/possession quality to it with ability in reaching particular deterministic qualities to any one thing, but pales in comparison and contrast to remain attractive to even lesser than greater souls. And if accepted in wide practice easily rebelled against for those same qualities.

Nobody wants to know exactly where they should arrive on a date.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEkp4fRaDJw

[Neuro]

Thats is why you/others do not see that sacred math is the bridge between the two, intelligent design explained mathematically. Meanwhile all religious scriptures are filled with math that even their own followers so rarely comprehend.
Your sacred math is nothing but Satanist numerology!

[Horn]

Your sacred math is nothing but Satanist numerology!

You are becoming as objective in your responses as that which you've cast down, HT.

[Neuro]

You are becoming as objective in your responses as that which you've cast down, HT.
Do you believe in numerology, Horn? ;) Are you also all for bridging all major religions with atheism with "sacred math"?

[Horn]

Do you believe in numerology, Horn? ;)

The question is rather obtuse. I do believe in their frequency along with all other frequency, series in parallel, yes.

They are inherit to everything we do and as a tool useful. Their religious use and study for our incorporation should not be viewed as some sort of an evil. The Indian glyphs themselves are truly astounding in their representations and tuning form in frequency. Much attention to detail was payed, and tapping into spiritual realms.

You should know deeper meaning of numbers inherently though, so in preparation when presented with them. The only way to do so is to know and familiarize, recognize and be part with numerology. So the tools cannot be used against you, and you can use the tools. To worship could be construe as some form of idolatry. No I don't go so far, but can see reason for others to do for reasons of their own.

[Horn]

Though I am of course .999 Unobtanium

Selfless unobtanium, did I say that? :)

[Neuro]

I just think it rings too much of Babylonian Luciferian Talmudism. Linking all major religions and atheism together in a bond of numerology, would just give those that have practiced it religiously, for millenia, the BLT's, all the power... Could it happen? Probably not, but who knows with all the ongoing brainwashing. Just for the record I don't believe in Satan, but I do believe there are plenty of people that worship that Horney bastard... ;D Quite a ridiculous character! Nothing to be afraid of children...

[Dogman]

Maybe just a name to describe evil! True evil exists just like Good! I believe everything has a polar opposite!

One can not exist without the other , also believe some form of math is behind everything! And math=numbers!

[singular_me]

I just notice it now... LOL. Likewise it is all about attention span


Though I am of course .999 Unobtanium

Selfless unobtanium, did I say that? :)

[singular_me]

the three of Knowledge in the bible with the snake in it merely means the choice to use Knowledge with the right or evil intent. People who associate associate a specific knowledge with evil never will get out of the woods.

The whole Creation allegory in the bible is sacred geometry applied. Then we have the apocalypse speaking of 144,000 chosen and redeemed ones. It is time for bible believers to ponder that very number. the number 144,000 also appears in the mayan calender.. in fact, all religious texts use the same mathematical patterns to convey the same things, yet all religions are about divide and rule. We are in DEEP shit, that all I can say.

blatant example: materialistically speaking, the israeli flag is associated with evil... but when one looks closer the flag merely means "as above so below" in sacred geometry, so what the sireali flag tells us: we have dominion on everything, even humans.

This is the curse of knowledge, people would rather embrace dogmas to escape free and critical thinking, which really teaches us that everything is interconnected. And because they decide to not bother with the big picture (too much to handle, let us live in our small bubble so to speak), those in the know take over.

Discrepancy of Knowledge will always remain predatory,, unless those in the know help spread knowledge. I have a great respect for Manly P Hall, 33 degree mason, in one of the utube videos/lectures, he goes in lengthy details about the great evil caused by secrecy and why some decided, millennia ago, .that secrecy would be the framework of ALL societies.

The masonic-zionist NWO cannot be defeated if we continue to separate materialism from spirituality. Today the idea that materialism is evil, aka wall street, is very widespread because of this. Then on the other side you have religious fanaticism vs atheism fighting against each other. It is not going to end well.

Reality is Cconsciousness and otherwise. Either we accept the duality of Knowledge and use it for a greater good, mankind ... or it will destroy us with masses' consent of course.

The origin of evil is not Knowledge but the Intent. The so-called humanitarian packages and collectivism are easy to enforce because of that, people want to do good, they just dont know that the Intent of the enforcers is evil.

if Lucifer doesnt exist for you, why jumping in the babylonian band wagon to make the point that bridging spirituality and materialism cannot be a good thing? That is contradictory.



I just think it rings too much of Babylonian Luciferian Talmudism. Linking all major religions and atheism together in a bond of numerology, would just give those that have practiced it religiously, for millenia, the BLT's, all the power... Could it happen? Probably not, but who knows with all the ongoing brainwashing. Just for the record I don't believe in Satan, but I do believe there are plenty of people that worship that Horney bastard... ;D Quite a ridiculous character! Nothing to be afraid of children...

[Neuro]

Maybe just a name to describe evil! True evil exists just like Good! I believe everything has a polar opposite!

One can not exist without the other , also believe some form of math is behind everything! And math=numbers!
No doubt evil exists, doing it in the name of satan is just ridiculous though! Doing what you believe is good in the name of Lucifer is even more ridiculous.

[Horn]

I don't believe in Satan,

He would have a set of 4 extra fangs, for a total 36 teeth.

And an extra pinky on each limb.

[Horn]

No doubt evil exists, doing it in the name of satan is just ridiculous though! Doing what you believe is good in the name of Lucifer is even more ridiculous.



30 km/sec


The Earth orbits, on average, 93 million miles (149,600,000 km) from the Sun (this distance is defined as one Astronomical Unit (AU)), taking one year to complete an orbit. The Earth revolves around the Sun at a speed of about 18.5 miles/sec (30 km/sec).



Earth Orbital Speed:66666mi/H

66666mi/H = 6 X 5 = 30

18.5mi/s X 3600 = 66600mi/h

66666 - 66600 = Route 66

18.5 / 30 = 0.61666666666666666666666666666667

The makers of our world are numerologists, knowing their practices will safeguard us against them. To try and somehow gain the knowledge and use it against them is futile, and equal to Luke Skywalker stealing Darth Vader's red light saber. His is blue afterall and would not constitute well in selling more film footage.

Unless we intend to mistakenly slay our own father and deepen war wounds its not suggested. :)

[singular_me]

and you'd like me to believe that you are not an agnostic or an atheist?

actually, I'd think that atheists/agnostic would be the first shifting their views and recognize that sacred math regulate patterns in Nature/Cosmos.

Looks like I am not out the woods yet


No doubt evil exists, doing it in the name of satan is just ridiculous though! Doing what you believe is good in the name of Lucifer is even more ridiculous.

[Neuro]

and you'd like me to believe that you are not an agnostic or an atheist?

actually, I'd think that atheists/agnostic would be the first shifting their views and recognize that sacred math regulate patterns in Nature/Cosmos.

Looks like I am not out the woods yet
For all I care you can stay in the woods, you went there yourself! Continue your work for the New World Order religion. Explain what the significance is in the world goes around the sun at almost 66,666 miles/hour. Why is it important to you having many 6's lined up at one of the units used for measuring distance? Why is it important to anyone?

[Neuro]

if Lucifer doesnt exist for you, why jumping in the babylonian band wagon to make the point that bridging spirituality and materialism cannot be a good thing? That is contradictory.
Because it is exactly the opposite of what you say... The Babylonian bandwagons entire purpose has been over the last 2,500 years to bridge spirituality with materialism. They have the material world now, time to get the souls of the people in it too. Thus roll out NWO sacred math numerology, and the priests of the New Religion will be the BLT's who practiced what they are now teaching for the last millenia's but the goy version...

[Horn]

Explain what the significance is in the world goes around the sun at almost 66,666 miles/hour. Why is it important to you having many 6's lined up at one of the units used for measuring distance? Why is it important to anyone?...

Thus roll out NWO sacred math numerology, and the priests of the New Religion will be the BLT's who practiced what they are now teaching for the last millenia's but the goy version...

I really don't see that as the case, numerology is a tool most often used to bulldoze a populace in overt communique. It does this by having them release to man made higher powers. To have goyim worship the bulldozer would place it in jeopardy from being noticed.

Take for instance this 66666 knowledge you can either disregard turn away, or recognize it as something more then realize what you're up against. Most will release to the man made power and it continue to go unnoticed (if even noticed). The 66600 mph that Google presents as the estimated speed rolls of the tongue even better.

There should be placed importance here, as it and distance to Sun is also a variable in the electric universe model a weakened solar cycle will increases orbital distance.


AN EMPIRICAL EXPLANATION OF THE ANOMALOUS INCREASES IN THE ASTRONOMICAL UNIT AND THE LUNAR ECCENTRICITY

http://iopscience.iop.org/1538-3881/142/3/68

It may be time to renegotiate the mile again another 1/8"

[singular_me]

nope, the duality they work with an ANTI-spirituatlity. And that is why everything has been corrupted. Also it seems like you have a problem to understand the intent. when the intent is to harm, it polarizes societies. Also I said earlier that knowledge doesnt cause evil/predation but secrecy.

The NWO is powerful because they use a universal knowledge which they subvert and keep secret. That is the only problem we have.

from there: do we accept "unlimited awareness" for a greater good and the inherent self-responsibilities? saying no, means "welcome back NWO!".



Because it is exactly the opposite of what you say... The Babylonian bandwagons entire purpose has been over the last 2,500 years to bridge spirituality with materialism. They have the material world now, time to get the souls of the people in it too. Thus roll out NWO sacred math numerology, and the priests of the New Religion will be the BLT's who practiced what they are now teaching for the last millenia's but the goy version...

the problem you see is that sacred geometrical patterns also work on a molecular level and this would greatly enhance medicine for example.

[aeondaze]

nope, the duality they work with an ANTI-spirituatlity. And that is why everything has been corrupted. Also it seems like you have a problem to understand the intent. when the intent is to harm, it polarizes societies. Also I said earlier that knowledge doesnt cause evil/predation but secrecy.

The NWO is powerful because they use a universal knowledge which they subvert and keep secret. That is the only problem we have.

NOPE. Wrong again.

They're powerful because people like you believe their bullshit. Granted the average Joe believes their lies about the supposedly sovereign good big government brings and follow their anal retentive laws.

You on the other hand have more issues.

You think they have 'secret knowledge', of which you've never been able to explain or qualify. YOU give them the power by ascribing a mystical supernatural omnipotence which is preposterous! All they have is psychological propaganda and the threat of violence, nothing more.

This is hardly groundbreaking. Thugs and psychopaths have been doing this since the dawn of time.

These cretins are just like everybody else and the sooner we stop cowering to their supposed omnipotent power the sooner we might be able to affect some real change.

Where is the proof these cretins are like everybody else? Well you only need to start with their global spying program prism. If they had the power you ascribe them they wouldn't need to have to construct this technological monstrosity to spy on citizens, they'd just use one of your dumb esoteric methods like remote viewing. There would be like a meditation center where ghouls sit around in the lotus position remote viewing all our lives, lol

But they don't do they? No, they have to do it the old fashioned way with brute force and massive amounts of data storage.

Because of your beliefs you are a dangerous person. You go around in your life trying to scare the shit out of people with your black magic mumbo jumbo and like all thugs when things don't go your way you start demanding and stomping your foot.

Give it a break!

[Neuro]

nope, the duality they work with an ANTI-spirituatlity. And that is why everything has been corrupted. Also it seems like you have a problem to understand the intent. when the intent is to harm, it polarizes societies. Also I said earlier that knowledge doesnt cause evil/predation but secrecy.

The NWO is powerful because they use a universal knowledge which they subvert and keep secret. That is the only problem we have.

from there: do we accept "unlimited awareness" for a greater good and the inherent challenges? saying no, means "welcome back NWO!".
Accepting their deranged nonsensical mathematics where certain numbers have precedent over others is somehow superior to exposing and resisting it? The fact that you find it also in the Christian bible and the Quran, as the Talmud, just goes to show who is behind Christianity and Islam.

[singular_me]

lets see who believe in BS here... (from the mckenna thread). I was kinda joking when assuming that atheists/agnostics would consider sacred geometry faster.

By now it should be clear than anti-spirituality leads to atheism (It has infected sciences for about centuries, since the middle ages)... and that it always was the NWO goal.

Same knowledge - different intents - working with God/Nature or against him/her.
-------------------

Sheldrake speaks of the missing heritability problem, which the nature mag published, heredity factors seem to be accurate between 5 and 10%... so much for mainstream academia misleading everybody again, and obviously being on a collision course.

here it is:
Personal genomes: The case of the missing heritability
2008
When scientists opened up the human genome, they expected to find the genetic components of common traits and diseases. But they were nowhere to be seen. Brendan Maher shines a light on six places where the missing loot could be stashed away.... LONG
http://www.nature.com/news/2008/081105/full/456018a.html

Alfred Rupert Sheldrake is an English scientist, author, public speaker, and researcher in the field of parapsychology, known for his "morphic resonance" concept. He worked as a biochemist and cell biologist at Cambridge University from 1967 to 1973 and as principal plant physiologist at the International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics until 1978.

CONCLUSION
not only academic findings expose academia as bunk, but then the latter completely trashes out of the box thinking such as morphic resonance, which nature mag regards as book to burn.

that is what happens when science embraces atheism... meanwhile morphic resonance is now an important component in epigenetics... well I guess that time has come for epigentic to take over after decades of fraudulent theories. But is it not a win for epigentic just yet since it includes the understanding of a component (such as the Field encoding the DNA) that many regard as a new age/magic element. But we are getting there: sciences and spirituality are bound to merge.

atheistic and religious fundamentalism alike have done enough damages to earth and the masses. The merging is the 3rd option and the only viable. And the evidence starts with sacred math



NOPE. Wrong again.

They're powerful because people like you believe their bullshit.

[Horn]

Accepting their deranged nonsensical mathematics where certain numbers have precedent over others is somehow superior to exposing and resisting it? The fact that you find it also in the Christian bible and the Quran, as the Talmud, just goes to show who is behind Christianity and Islam.

Resisting what? If it were nonsensical there would be nothing to resist.

Truth is that there is power and frequency behind all numbers, (a language) There is sense behind the frequency of each and every number.

None of them are "nonsensical", and you're compelled to accept in either fashion.

[singular_me]

we find the same sacred math encoded in ALL religious allegories... and mythologies, from the mayans to hinduism, so why? thats the proof they have understood it ALL but use secrecy to predate on mankind.

if you do not want to investigate something that has been out there since ever, then you will have to quit blaming the NWO at some point, makes no sense.

also, none of your postings shows the slightest interest in spirituality in the broad sense.


Accepting their deranged nonsensical mathematics where certain numbers have precedent over others is somehow superior to exposing and resisting it? The fact that you find it also in the Christian bible and the Quran, as the Talmud, just goes to show who is behind Christianity and Islam.

[Neuro]

Resisting what? If it were nonsensical there would be nothing to resist.

Truth is that there is power and frequency behind all numbers, (a language) There is sense behind the frequency of each and every number.

None of them are "nonsensical", and you're compelled to accept in either fashion.
I'm not compelled to accept any nonsense. Nonsense is there to distract from reality, you can even hear it, non sense, it says it all. You have not demonstrated that 66,666 has any importance at all. Sure a number used as code could get a closed knit community to act in unison. Like at 9/11. If the members of that community put a religious importance into that number they would perform better. The truth is that these numbers have no importance apart from what they can convince it's cult members to do for them. But they are nonsensical! There is nothing making a 6 more significant than a 4...

[Neuro]

we find the same sacred math codes in ALL religious texts... and mythologies, so why? thats the proof they have understood it ALL but use secrecy to predate on mankind.

if you do not want to study something that has been there since ever, then you will have to quit blaming the NWO at some point, makes no sense.
I have studied it, no one here that propagates the importance of numerology has been able to demonstrate the importance of certain numbers over others. I have asked many times what is the importance of a number of 6's in a row, none have been able to give an explanation apart from referring to religious dogma...

[Neuro]

Sorry a 6 is more significant than a 4 as it is more.

[singular_me]

in fact 6 in a row isnt correct, it goes to the infinite... :)

while all numbers are important, the multiples of 3 are essential... body, mind, spirit... sacred trinity ... so are 6 and 9... the creation allegory in the bible says that adam was conceived the 6th day. To find the real meaning of any number, one has to go back to the source, 4-5000 years ago.

there is a difference between numerology and sacred math, I am talking of sacred math only here as patterns offer a better understanding of harmony ruling the Universe and proves the intelligent design mathematically.

I no longer think of God in biblical terms but the beauty and perfection of geometric patterns.


I have studied it, no one here that propagates the importance of numerology has been able to demonstrate the importance of certain numbers over others. I have asked many times what is the importance of a number of 6's in a row, none have been able to give an explanation apart from referring to religious dogma...

[Horn]

Sorry a 6 is more significant than a 4 as it is more.

I was actually thinking to myself walking back from the corner store "I wonder what Neuro's next reply will be?"

This song came to mind...no lie :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGe09wXwX0

I really think u should consult the Dogman on this, he has afterall been there and done it.

[Dogman]

I was actually thinking to myself walking back from the corner store "I wonder what Neuro's next reply will be?"

This song came to mind...no lie :)

YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGe09wXwX0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGe09wXwX0)

I really think u should consult the Dogman on this, he has afterall been there a done it.

;)

Mumble, mumble, snicker, snicker !

[singular_me]

nothing to do with numerology, actually here is a brief example as how sacred math is needed in physics, that's where it is getting a little bit more complex.... sacred math is really a science. I didnt write this but a sacred math master.

Numerology derives from sacred math, but is rather numbering emotional/social patterns
----------------------------

"FiNiTE iNFiNiTiES"

Jain 108
How can an Infinity be Finite? How can something that appears to travel forever be contained or tamed or boxed or handled?

This is what appears to happen to the Entity named “The Squared Root of 2” which is the diagonal of the Unit Square (1x1 Square) and its diagonal, being 1.41421356…
has its decimals travelling forever without any discernible repetition or pattern, an infinity of decimals, yet we know we can measure this entity from one corner of the square to the other opposing corner of the same square so somehow this infinity of decimals is contained, is finite, is apparently measurable, but we just can't put our finger on it.
We try to define it, so all we can do is make a close approximation, so really Root 2 is not a Number, not a whole number that we understand, but some other Phantom. So mathematicians don’t know what to do with these root harmonics, like Root 2, Root 3, and Root 5 (you can google these graphics) etc that are indeed infinities but infinities that are contained in finite geometrical boundaries…

Though these invisibilities are made visible to the maths world via the gem known as Pythagoras’ Theorem: 32 + 42 = 52 a true gift from the gods.
The 3 most primal or primitive or important Root Harmonics are those of 3, 4 and 5:
Root 2 is the Diagonal of the Unit Square 1x1,
Root 5 is the Diagonal of the Double Unit Square 1x2, and
Root 3 is the Space Diagonal of the Unit Cube 1x1x1.
They are all touchable, definable yet untouchable!

There exist other Infinities, that are not contained by boundaries, they are genuine Infinities that have no apparent boundaries, they really go on and on and on forever into some distant land. One such sequence is the Doubling Sequence:
1 – 2 – 4 – 8 – 16 – 32 – 64 – 128 etc…
The good news is that the tool known as “Digital Compression”, which is really “Continued Subtraction From 9” gives us a handle, something to grab, of these infinities. Thus when mathematicians digitally compress say the Fibonacci Sequence or the Doubling Sequence, by adding the individual digits and reducing the big numbers down to smaller single digits, patterns appear. This Doubling Sequence has a Periodicity of 6 meaning that this sequence reduces down to 6 single digits that infinite repeat, like a necklace of pearls and now becomes known as The Binary Code:
1 – 2 – 4 – 8 – 7 – 5.
This gives us a sense of control regarding where this infinity is going, albeit circular, its like mounting a wild horse with a saddle and riding its infinite-ness.

Jain 108

[Horn]

My estimation of 4, is that its a base primarily needed to construct a thing upon.

6 before 4 is a gain, 46 a loser, 49 a winner.

4 base points to a pyramid as such, its also a good representational money number, and why when shifted on a keyboard it turns into a $ sign.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7321&stc=1

[singular_me]

and lastly there is en ever increasing number of artists inspired by sacred geometry these days

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10959557_339797552872651_7588028943812976875_n.jpg ?oh=73e1327c6d1c8c165b82ff2e0013848c&oe=554D05E1&__gda__=1435308648_3339c313597404865441b1befdfb95d 7

[aeondaze]

and lastly there is en ever increasing number of artists inspired by sacred geometry these days

FAIL

This stuff has been around for years...lol

http://www.thefirstfew.com/wp-content/uploads/Spiro-Box.png

Even my kid does it!

[Horn]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10959557_339797552872651_7588028943812976875_n.jpg ?oh=73e1327c6d1c8c165b82ff2e0013848c&oe=554D05E1&__gda__=1435308648_3339c313597404865441b1befdfb95d 7

8, or representative infinity #, is also closely tied to 64

[expat4ever]

and lastly there is en ever increasing number of artists inspired by sacred geometry these days

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10959557_339797552872651_7588028943812976875_n.jpg ?oh=73e1327c6d1c8c165b82ff2e0013848c&oe=554D05E1&__gda__=1435308648_3339c313597404865441b1befdfb95d 7
Who is the artist?

[singular_me]

its from FB... Welcome to the Golden PAge

here is another one that I find amazing

https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10612807_535333823276552_5884270927360226881_n.jpg ?oh=9c7e53c848e4a19c106d1674b9ab1f52&oe=55571ECF

[singular_me]

fibonacci again
Comparing a Fibonacci spiral to the Cochlea spiral that is inside your inner ear

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10372134_508572092619392_8624412423513962768_n.jpg ?oh=fc27de616d82807acbbaf4243b26c421&oe=558EC9ED&__gda__=1434883377_49a445ea10c93c6ee32034dd0e9bff5 b

[Horn]

Speaking on close vacuums, cover your ears.


If a person starts at a higher elevation and then begins to descend without swallowing, as the lower barometric pressure behind the eardrum stays the same, then the pressure on the outside of the eardrum is increasing. This creates a relative vacuum behind the eardrum. This becomes equivalent to sucking on a straw, with collapse of the straw side wall. If swallowing occurs before this relative vacuum becomes too great, then the collapsed eustachian tube will then open, with equalization of pressure across the eardrum. However, if swallowing occurs too late, then the vacuum behind the eardrum will keep the eustachian tube walls collapsed and in touch with each other; and as descent continues, this wall-to-wall contact becomes more and more firm. If the vacuum continues to increase, then ear pain can occur, and fluid can be sucked out of the membrane lining the middle ear, with the result that bloody plasma fluid then fills the space behind the eardrum. This can be severe enough that membrane structures inside the inner ear can rupture, with resultant deafness or vertigo, both of which may be permanent. This same sequence of events occurs in individuals diving under water. The changes, however, occur much more rapidly because of the water pressure that is exerted. At sea level, one atmosphere is equivalent to the entire weight of a vertical column of atmosphere, which can extend up to about 80,000 feet. That same pressure is obtained by descending 33 feet in water.

http://advancedotolaryngology.com/patient-education/ear-barotrauma/

[aeondaze]

All any of you have proved is that there in an efficient way living organisms evolve and matter assembles. Nothing more.

Efficiency ≠ sacred/mystical

Why must you believe in fairy tales? This is what you need to be asking yourselves.

Why does any of this prove the existence of a sacred existential element?

[Horn]

You're obviously not nearly as Conservative as we are, aeondaze.

[expat4ever]

All any of you have proved is that there in an efficient way living organisms evolve and matter assembles. Nothing more. Correct and I think the mathematical formulas are being interpreted as sacred.
As this thread has pointed out I have also seen the correlation in many different things. I think its great that the math has been figured out but knowing the math doesnt seem to mean anything to me. There's a good bit on the fibinocci sequence in the magical egypt series. I think the Egyptians knew about it as well at many other mathematical concepts. Does knowing this give you an edge over others? Perhaps it does. if you know the basic mathematical formulas for life. What I do feel it does is give you a better understanding or way of looking at things.
I havent wrapped my head around all of it but have been following the thread to try and understand it better. I know the golden ratio is used in many buildings. My daughter graduated from design school in NY a couple years back and she learned about it in school there. She just got accepted to Harvard for her masters but my point is, its not a secret, it the right proportion to build or design things. There may or may not be more to it. I have no idea. I'm just facinated by the fact that nature is so perfect and in the end all these mathematical formulas may just be following what occurs in nature.

[aeondaze]

Correct and I think the mathematical formulas are being interpreted as sacred.
As this thread has pointed out I have also seen the correlation in many different things...if you know the basic mathematical formulas for life. What I do feel it does is give you a better understanding or way of looking at things...There may or may not be more to it. I have no idea. I'm just fascinated by the fact that nature is so perfect and in the end all these mathematical formulas may just be following what occurs in nature.

OK now were getting somewhere.

The fibonacci series and the golden mean can be arrived at through the observation of the natural world. This is quite possibly the triumph of the Bronze age Egyptian civilisation. There is little doubt that by the construction of the great pyramid in the 26th century BC that pi and phi were known to the Egyptians.

In an articlke I read it says that the "mathematical knowledge represented by the papyri actually goes back to Imhotep - the architect of the the Step Pyramid of Djoser (3-rd dynasty)." about 200 years before the great pyramid.

https://www.math.washington.edu/~greenber/PiPyr.html

So we're already looking at the early bronze age when these irrational numbers were known. It could conceivably be that the Egyptians had known about this since the late neolithic, they were a pretty sophisticated bunch, but then again so were most of the ancient near east neolithic cultures.

Now in regard to our solar system, mathematicians have been contemplating the relationship between the golden mean, phi and the orbits of the planets for a while now.

Here is a nice article form 1984 which references other papers from the late 70's.

http://www.fq.math.ca/Scanned/22-1/lombardi.pdf

Notice that the address is in relation to math, not mysticism or spirituality. Plenty of sober minds have been contemplating this for ages.

So where did our ancient ancestors discover the relationship between pi. phi and the world they inhabited. There are plenty of ways.

1) The motion of the planets
2) Shell formation
3) Flowering plants
4) Bee colony populations

Just to name a few.

I guess the part that sticks in my craw is that humans have been applying observation and deduction to these endeavors for thousands of years, there is no mystery to this.

Then along comes a bunch of ratbags who want to use it as a justification for EVERYTHING and ultimately as somehow proof that we've been hoodwinked about the way the universe works. This kind of thinking is counterproductive, especially when it is cited as proof that the elite psychopaths are like demigods with a secret powerful magic that cannot be defeated as they've been lying to us about this so called 'magic' for thousands of years.

They've been lying to us for sure, just not about some mysterious magical power that they hold over humanities head.

As I said before the only tools they use against the plebs is psychological warfare and violence. They don't have any magic secrets. This kind of thinking is extremely dangerous in its defeatist approach, which I suspect is the reason why some around here try to push this .

:rolleyes:

[Neuro]

in fact 6 in a row isnt correct, it goes to the infinite... :)

while all numbers are important, the multiples of 3 are essential... body, mind, spirit... sacred trinity ... so are 6 and 9... the creation allegory in the bible says that adam was conceived the 6th day. To find the real meaning of any number, one has to go back to the source, 4-5000 years ago.

there is a difference between numerology and sacred math, I am talking of sacred math only here as patterns offer a better understanding of harmony ruling the Universe and proves the intelligent design mathematically.

I no longer think of God in biblical terms but the beauty and perfection of geometric patterns.
Really it seems like you don't have any evidence apart from religious dogma that 3, 6 and 9 are more significant numbers...

I find God in life itself, and the perfection and rationality of the parts required to make it work like a unit at both the minute scale and at grander scales, on occasion forming geometric patterns, where it is efficient, but mostly a different pattern is there, which fails description in mathematical terms. Snails with Fibonacci styled shells are not more important than slugs without, the life force they exhibit is equally beautiful...

[Glass]

a slug and any other creature or life form may still have been influenced by this ratio. The shell is a hardened artifact that can easily be viewed. The ease with which it can be viewed does not mean that there is no evidence of the same thing in other creatures. Perhaps it is not equally as obvious as the shell.

It could be that cellular growth adheres to / is influenced by this as well. Trees follow this with its branching and leaf growth. Do animals have this as they grow? In their cells or the way the cells are produced. Perhaps not in physical layout but maybe in the number of cells produced in a given cycle could change in a way that could be represented by the numerical sequence.

[Neuro]

we find the same sacred math encoded in ALL religious allegories... and mythologies, from the mayans to hinduism, so why? thats the proof they have understood it ALL but use secrecy to predate on mankind.

if you do not want to investigate something that has been out there since ever, then you will have to quit blaming the NWO at some point, makes no sense.

also, none of your postings shows the slightest interest in spirituality in the broad sense.
It is not my fault your understanding of spirituality is very limited...

[singular_me]

actually I was thinking the same about you

it is a knowledge that has been ruling mankind for ages and you want me to discard it??? A knowledge that is shared from all around the planet but causing a dreaded divide and conquer? Impossible to resolve this by just sweeping it under the rug... the atheist/agnostic pipe dream that considers humans and Natures as machines. But it wont happen because **Reality Is Consciousness**

what is your spiritual orientation if I may ask?



It is not my fault your understanding of spirituality is very limited...

[singular_me]

aeon, I have proven what your atheist academia has done to the world by claiming that heredity was genetic for decades... BS fro a to z. what I didnt know until yesterday but I will keep this on my pile of clues as why academia must be dismantled.

not to mention the OP article, saying that scientists have found the golden ratio in stars.

yes, everything "self-organizes" .... LOL

---------------


All any of you have proved is that there in an efficient way living organisms evolve and matter assembles. Nothing more.

Efficiency ≠ sacred/mystical

Why must you believe in fairy tales? This is what you need to be asking yourselves.

Why does any of this prove the existence of a sacred existential element?

[aeondaze]

actually I was thinking the same about you

it is a knowledge that has been ruling mankind for ages and you want me to discard it??? A knowledge that is shared from all around the planet but causing a dreaded divide and conquer? Impossible to resolve this by just sweeping it under the rug... the atheist/agnostic pipe dream that considers humans and Natures as machines. But it wont happen because **Reality Is Consciousness**
__________________________________________________ _____________________________________
I have proven what your atheist academia has done to the world by claiming that heredity was genetic for decades... BS fro a to z

not to mention the OP article, saying that scientists have found the golden ratio in stars.

yes, everything "self-organizes" .... LOL

Its YOU who is the NWO enabler, spreading the filthy lie that they are infallible and omnipotent!

YOU are the one that divides with this utter nonsense!

Ultimately its YOU who are responsible.

You spread filthy lies in an effort to marginalise atheists, labeling them with all sorts of disgusting disrespectful tags.

You should just go and crawl into a hole and die already! Who do you think you are?

You are a filthy lying pig with filthy disgusting hateful ideas, you don't deserve to be called human.

[singular_me]

no dogmas as math is needed to interpret everything we can think of... even music.
You are just refuting the obvious... and definitely allergic to the idea that math proves the intelligent design.

everything, even emotions, as there are electric in nature.

sacred geometry alone is no dogma, but what religions have done with it for sure is. Big difference. I really think that you have an problem with grasping the meaning of intent.




Really it seems like you don't have any evidence apart from religious dogma .

[singular_me]

go to the thread and read the nature.com mag link debunking heredity theories that have been pushed down the throats for decades by your atheist academia

you attempt to make a rational case for the golden ratio... but can you the same about stars - and why do they pulsate according to it? well my guess is that you will have to resort to calling it the "irrational number" too

------------


Its YOU who is the NWO enabler, spreading the filthy lie that they are infallible and omnipotent!

YOU are the one that divides with this utter nonsense!

Ultimately its YOU who are responsible.

You spread filthy lies in an effort to marginalise atheists, labeling them with all sorts of disgusting disrespectful tags.

You should just go and crawl into a hole and die already! Who do you think you are?

You are a filthy lying pig with filthy disgusting hateful ideas, you don't deserve to be called human.

[palani]

you don't deserve to be called human

Hue-man is color of man. Although 'man' is the root the similarity ends there. A high complement indeed ... to NOT to deserve to be called human.

If in doubt about this watch the segment in the movie THE FIFTH ELEMENT in which Bruce Willis, when queried by police if he was human, responds thus: "Negative. I am a meat popsicle".

[singular_me]

Originally Posted by aeondaze -- You are a filthy lying pig with filthy disgusting hateful ideas, you don't deserve to be called human. you don't deserve to be called human

deparate aeon, who cannot refute that everything is math in the universe would rather tag the messenger as NOT human and filthy pig instead of acknowledging that sacred math proves the intelligent design.


this thread is becoming tiresome

[aeondaze]

okay, this thread is becoming tiresome

Yes, its your premise that has become tiresome but you're too stupid to see that!

[singular_me]

Yes, its your premise that has become tiresome but you're too stupid to see that!

bye to you and Neuro who think that Life self-organizes out of the blue

[Neuro]

no dogmas as math is needed to interpret everything we can think of... even music.
You are just refuting the obvious... and definitely allergic to the idea that math proves the intelligent design.

everything, even emotions, as there are electric in nature.

sacred geometry alone is no dogma, but what religions have done with it for sure is. Big difference. I really think that you have an problem with grasping the meaning of intent.
Circular reasoning... Do you remember I asked what the importance of 3 6 and 9 is...

[Horn]

9 is king, and nave


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG4dRUOWwtg

[Neuro]

bye to you and Neuro who think that Life self-organizes out of the blue
Another lie! How about you trying to focus on your own confused belief system, instead of trying to decide what others believe as a reason not to have to answer questions. You just are too predictable, this happens over and over. You falsely accuse others of not being spiritual and meanwhile you can not put up your own beliefs for discussion.

Again what is the significance of 3,6 and 9? You only refer to millenia old religious dogma. And then you say that the dogma represents mathematics, circular logic...

[singular_me]

thank you for this excellent find, this vid is most likely a last nail in the coffin for the skeptics....

God/Universe gave us the Numbers for our minds to figure out the proper maths to interpret his entire creation.

Physicists are being forced to admit that the universe is a “mental” construction. A calculating Mind.

watching but will finish it later this evening :)

by the way: (will aeon throw another fit? will neuro blame again circular thinking?)
Flower of Life and Cell Division – Geometry of Creation

http://transmissionsmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/402328_282814701832148_1527663661_n.jpg



9 is king, and nave
o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG4dRUOWwtg

[Neuro]

God/Universe? That's about as non-committal as you can get. Thank god/universe that it gave us 5 fingers on each hand, or the hexadecimal system wouldn't have been used. All evidence point to humanity inventing numbers not God/universe...

[Horn]

Be careful how much you offer to vampires, singular. :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EWqTym2cQU

[Dogman]

God/Universe? That's about as non-committal as you can get. Thank god/universe that it gave us 5 fingers on each hand, or the hexadecimal system wouldn't have been used. All evidence point to humanity inventing numbers not God/universe...

Are the numbers 5-10-15-20 sacred? If not they should be, because our math started from those numbers as a base ! We could always call hyper kitty if there are any doubts !

;)

[Horn]

5 is representative of communcation, or where u have to switch hands.

Quality of also hiding other about it.

[expat4ever]

Flower of Life and Cell Division – Geometry of Creation I thought fibinocci is the geometry of creation? Or are there 2 geometries of creation?

[singular_me]

I thought fibinocci is the geometry of creation? Or are there 2 geometries of creation?

fibonacci and the flower of life are kinda even in that respect but honestly, in my view all shapes are important

[singular_me]

well, 11, 22 and 33 surely are master numbers, that is why christ died at age 33 (masonic highest number)

to see through the fog, one must first a acknowledge that numbers are embedded in ALL religious beliefs and many myths. Masonic-zionism didnt invent ANYTHING. It all comes down to the intent to corrupt a 5k year old knowledge . it is up to anyone's choice to discard it or not but the corruption is so HUGE that refuting it will not make it disappear as it is ruling over world societies. It is like ignoring the mammoth in the room. LOL. All belief systems have been hijacked, that is as simple as that, and since politic IS religion and otherwise, we do not have much of a choice other than confronting the mammoth... fearing the one world religion when all faiths suffer from the same plague?

HT doesnt ring anything worth to be alidated to me as he doesnt give any explanation as how he comes up this his series.

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count..." Rev.13:18 "Look now toward heaven, and count the stars, if you are able to number them..." Gen.15:5 "And even the very hairs of your head are numbered." Matt. 10:30 Everything, even the sands of the sea are numbered.


Are the numbers 5-10-15-20 sacred? If not they should be, because our math started from those numbers as a base ! We could always call hyper kitty if there are any doubts !

;)

[expat4ever]

I am taking a neutral position on this one. I agree that there is sacred geometry, however as I said earlier I think this is just knowledge that people figured out the math in nature and for whatever reason kept that from the general population. However people like Plato and Pathegorus studied in Egypt and were probably given this knowledge. In turn they understood how things work better than others and were able to create better models of everything because of it.
Now if you want to tell me that all this technology is clogging up the airwaves and is bad and they know it then I am right there with ya. Just came out that the head of PG&E in Ca know about the harm that the digital meters does but they kept it to themselves and pushed for them anyway.
Looking at the leadership in the world I also cant say that any of them have enough intelligence to find their way out of a paper bag let alone understand sacred anything enough to use it to their advantage. Even Bush 2 was in skull and bones yet went on to destroy every company he was ever put in charge of. Why was he such a failure? Obamalamadingdingdong has never held a real job in his life, I wouldnt exactly call him a success either.

The reality is the bankers via the MIC have taken control of this country. They own it all via the MIC and international corporations. It doesnt take sacred math to do that, its takes a shitload of money which they have control of via central banks around the world.

So again, I do agree with the math and I think its important, I just dont see how its been used against us in any way.

[singular_me]

I respect your opinion expat... but we still have a masonic-zionist elite that is bent on corrupt sacred geometry. if it is not important, why is it their beliefs, why did they corrupt it in the first place?

elites will do whatever they can to make this world disharmonious. And corruption of spiritual beliefs come first because masses are afraid of tomorrows and death. When the psyches is out of sync, hoaxes/illusions/control are even more easy to enforce. It is a mind and spiritual nasty game.

(where is atheism in all this now??? )
Physicists Find Evidence That The Universe Is A Giant Brain
http://themindunleashed.org/2013/07/physicists-find-evidence-that-universe.html

[expat4ever]

I dont know that they did. As I said earlier, sometimes building something in a certain way is just the right way to do it. For example, why do we build a pyramid with the base at the bottom instead of the tip? Its just the right way to build it. Designers and architects go to school to study design and the correct way to build things. Once the math has been figured out there is no reason to change it.
I had an architectural millwork company and did some great projects for some very wealthy individuals in CT and NY. Since I worked in the trades and with designers and architects all the time I picked up a few things here and there. It wasnt sacred math, just the right proportions to build things. I guess you could say it was sacred math but lets look at what sacred is. Pi is sacred math but its a pretty important number and everyone knows of it. Same with the golden ratio.
Look at Randal Carlson, he's a mason and offers courses on the sacred geometry. Sacred being like a law of math or the right way to do things. I dont see anything nefarious about him or any other mason I have known. In fact some of them have been idiots to say the least.
I do understand why you take the position you do, and as you know I agree with you on many subjects, This one i'm not convinced of yet though. :).

[expat4ever]

I want to add that i see the zionist elite as a very corrupt bunch of individuals who profit in death. They took control of the money system and make the rules that everyone else has to live by. If you control the money you control it all.
I think they also figured out they could control entire populations via TV. The dumb down societies and program them on how to think. Sacred math doesnt come into play but evil and greed surely does.

[singular_me]

sure... but remember it is all about controlling the pineal gland, the center of consciousness/spirituality. :)

pineal gland control/controlling religions/spiritual level
monetary control/control over matter/materialism

two sides of the same coin, both must be addressed to get rid of the world political/religious elites.

[expat4ever]

I just read the link. WOW. I was just hypothesizing the same thing last weekend with a friend of mine. I have been looking at the correlations between the universe and things here on Earth.

[singular_me]

also this one
The Mental Universe-Richard Conn Henry
The Universe is immaterial — mental and spiritual. Live, and enjoy. free ebook
http://www.newdualism.org/papers/R.Henry/436029a.html

I have been pondering for about 5 years... resolving world issues is a "mind matter", materialism merely translates what is plaguing the Mind... so thinking we can fix this by going just after materialism, is an erroneous premise, wont work. And the mind is above all spiritual as our pineal gland can tap into the pool of universal consciousness and knowledge, unless rendered defective.




I just read the link. WOW. I was just hypothesizing the same thing last weekend with a friend of mine. I have been looking at the correlations between the universe and things here on Earth.

[Jewboo]

The reality is the bankers via the MIC have taken control of this country. They own it all via the MIC and international corporations. It doesnt take sacred math to do that, its takes a shitload of money which they have control of via central banks around the world. So again, I do agree with the math and I think its important, I just dont see how its been used against us in any way.




http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45423000/jpg/_45423259_soros512.jpg
My agent Goldissima is keeping the goyim distracted with goofy
"Sacred Numerology" while I rob them blind.


:rolleyes:

[Horn]

Oh bolony book, goldisma didnt create the earth to move at 66600 mph. Or christ to die at 33.

When people see those numbers they either run from or become masons. Masonic servants of the MIC...

[singular_me]

no surprise to read this book, but that is not a problem... the real problem is that we are dealing with a massive 5k year corruption of just everything we can think of, religions included. Feel free to ignore what I am saying.

I am sure you have no interest in finding out where the 144,000 chosen ones after the apocalpyse come from, do you... WHY 144,000... why adam was created the 6th day, why 12 apostles, why christ died at 33yo, why the hebrews spent 40 years wandering in the desert, and I could go on and on... the fact is that with all the kaballah/numerology in it, is the evidence that the bible is a masonic job, telling also many truths and which should not discredit the message of peace and love.

the distraction, like any others, is too in the bible because followers do **not** understand what it really means. And that very distraction also helps the NWO take over.

so if you have no interest, your label is absolutely senseless. Going after those who want to know and point to serious facts, is a NWO tactic :)

I am sure you'd support to burn all books explaining sacred math by the same token, a precious knowledge born with mankind but which was subverted by the elites since ever.

[Horn]

First post after coming back after an extended absence and it as an excercise of Freedom to attack other members.

Cut hold up sign requesting audience applause all fools clap,, book leaves.cause his pants get wet.. forum spirals out existence.

[Jewboo]

I am sure you have no interest in finding out where the 144,000 chosen ones after the apocalpyse come from, do you... WHY 144,000... why adam was created the 6th day, why 12 apostles, why christ died at 33yo, why the hebrews spent 40 years wandering in the desert, and I could go on and on...




http://richestcelebrities.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/George-Soros-Net-Worth-400x242.jpg
Do go on and on Goldissima so they don't learn this number:



George Soros is known as among the very successful thieves of Hungarian-Jew ancestry. Moreover, he’s his own business called “Soros Fund Management”. He’s also called a supporter of liberal progressive issues in White goy countries. In people and fiscal world, he’s generally called “The Guy Who Broke the Bank of England”. He got this title because of his "investment" gains of 1 billion dollars through the Black Wednesday UK money disaster which occurred in 1992. He’s also known as among the very most generous donators on the planet. Between the years 1979-2011, he contributed about 8 billion dollars to various causes including dumb-down goy public schooling, so-called public health, homo rights, and "sacred jew number" bullshit.



George Soros Net Worth $22 Billion Dollars <-- Sacred Number :rolleyes:

[singular_me]

I actually like book a lot even when strongly disagreeing. But with me he stands no chance to frame me into a corner, and he knows it.

reminds me of magnes, a staunch christian, who claimed his admiration for plato (one of the fathers of sacred math) and Charles the great (bloodline king related to the british royals).. Well, I wonder as to whether he really ever investigated.


First post after coming back after an extended absence and it as an excercise of Freedom to attack other members.

Cut hold up sign requesting audience applause all fools clap,, book leaves.cause his pants get wet.. forum spirals out existence.

[Horn]

Masons and jewish bankers are like two monkeys who belong in cage, one will throw a bannana then they both will point at each other.

Thing u do goldi is think that u can pick up an ak47 in Vietnam cause it works better. Not realizing you'll get cut down by friendly fire.

[Jewboo]

...book leaves...forum spirals out existence.




http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/72935276-cat-in-a-straight-jacket-glares-at-the-camera-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=IFaDxiQ3K1kL%2BncF70StIsM878HZrejBIR7WJKriaDg%3D
YOU ARE ALL MORONS





http://forums.riftgame.com/attachments/general-discussion/13273d1375975426t-planar-attunement-reasoning-expl-drunkcomp.jpg
TRY MY BrewTech SPECIAL DOGMAN




http://www.webpsykologen.no/innhold/slik-blir-du-en-sjarlatan.jpg
IGNORE THE JEWS...IT'S SACRED NUMBERS








:rolleyes: can't imagine why

[Horn]

And his pants never did quite dry now did they?

[Dogman]

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/72935276-cat-in-a-straight-jacket-glares-at-the-camera-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=IFaDxiQ3K1kL%2BncF70StIsM878HZrejBIR7WJKriaDg%3D
YOU ARE ALL MORONS





http://forums.riftgame.com/attachments/general-discussion/13273d1375975426t-planar-attunement-reasoning-expl-drunkcomp.jpg
TRY MY BrewTech SPECIAL DOGMAN




http://www.webpsykologen.no/innhold/slik-blir-du-en-sjarlatan.jpg
IGNORE THE JEWS...IT'S SACRED NUMBERS








:rolleyes: can't imagine why



Nice try book, I haven't been drunk in probably a year now. Members here I know can tell the difference ! ;D

What is it with you that you want to constantly stir crap and create discontent, I know you are more capable than that, but you would rather post your pictures with snide remarks?

But maybe I am wrong trying to reason with you, you would rather attack and smear members here than being constructive.

Waste of my time I think trying to reason with you I am thinking..

Carry on book, as you are or maybe you can contribute something more than your pictures and barbs.

I think not.

;)

Does you and ximmy showing up we can see maggy next ? Two of you have a connection, would not be surprised it it was three or more. Your posting sorta reminds me on how it thought most of the posters here were posting crap and not taking up its agenda.

Any hoo, enjoy yourself, spreading you special love !

[Horn]

You ought to be grateful jews and masons run the world Dogman,

If it were Book's type everything would be absolutely the same.

[Dogman]

You ought to be grateful jews and masons run the world Dogman,

If it were Book's type everything would be absolutely the same.

Naw I think there would be some major depopulating of certain people's of this world! If him and his kind were in control! It was tried once in the 20's-40's !

[Horn]

Naw I think there would be some major depopulating of certain people's of this world! If him and his kind were in control! It was tried once in the 20's-40's !

The 20's are approaching rapidly once more, just short of the roaring.

Well unless yur receiving stock market bonus.

[Neuro]

I actually like book a lot even when strongly disagreeing. But with me he stands no chance to frame me into a corner, and he knows it.

reminds me of magnes, a staunch christian, who claimed his admiration for plato (one of the fathers of sacred math) and Charles the great (bloodline king related to the british royals).. Well, I wonder as to whether he really ever investigated.
Magnes isn't a staunch Christian. He doesn't believe in God, but he embraced Christianity as the defender of Western values. Unless he changed his mind the last couple of years that is, which I wouldn't know anything about...

[Neuro]

The 20's are approaching rapidly once more, just short of the roaring.

Yes just 5 more years and we have double 20's...

[singular_me]

welcome to paradox land, people like magnes shouldnt be surprised to be taken for what they arent.


Magnes isn't a staunch Christian. He doesn't believe in God, but he embraced Christianity as the defender of Western values. Unless he changed his mind the last couple of years that is, which I wouldn't know anything about...

[Neuro]

welcome to paradox land, people like magnes shouldnt be surprised to be taken for what they arent.
Maybe if you were more focused on what people actually say rather than what you think they should say, you'ld have a clearer perception of reality.

[Horn]

Magnes had a fondness for Eagles is what I remember... I do know there are more to the numbers than meets the eye.

Not so sure on Eagle type symbology.

[singular_me]

Magnes made the same accusation than book did in this thread... and strangely he was admiring one of the founding fathers of sacred geometry and a bloodline king, sorry that doesnt/didnt add up. I think you are reading between my lines too much, hey but that is your perception. Which/whose reality ?

each perception is unique, and that is the meaning of Reality.

additionally I have been gone for very long periods of time since I left the big apple. It only has been since last summer that I am on a regular basis. But my interaction with him was often similar to books... so I can only talk of what I know. As we all do.


Maybe if you were more focused on what people actually say rather than what you think they should say, you'ld have a clearer perception of reality.

[Horn]

Right, I remember that now,

he would hold up Charlemagne like some western iconic figure, but then have no regard for those who crowned him.

One could only go figure.

[singular_me]

Charlemange, The Merovingian Dynasty, Satanic Bloodline... The Merovingian bloodline, descended from Charlemagne

Carolus Magnus Charles the Great

is well documented


Right, I remember that now,

he would hold up Charlemagne like some western iconic figure, but then have no regard for those who crowned him.

One could only go figure.

edit: I think people should come to their senses because it has been 4000 years that we are ruled by masonry, and this means that all the knowledge in circulation is more or less masonic since they control the flow of information that suits their goals and control history... we even can say that the US constitution is masonic, this to give an example. Secrecy is the real nefarious issue.

[Horn]

we even can say that the US constitution is masonic, this to give an example.

Well than the masons are kaput, cause nobody ever followed it.

I don't think masons get into the details of contracts that much, if they've been around as long you say (which is debatable) it would behoove them to stay away from any details, contracts always run rot with cycles. My guess is they would stick to the shadows and just use "tools" of influence at times it were necessary.

Or if it were sooo old, the colonial masonry we know of just a sellable type, made for the public. And nothing to actually do with "real" masonry if it were even to go by that name. Any cult that you wonder of being around that long, you wouldn't even have a name for it, imo.

Jewry on the other hand is the in your face type as a repeatably beatable love doll. Would be the anti-thesis and required balance to it.

[singular_me]

truly organized masonry (and its sub categories) with the goal to take over the planet is perhaps 2000y old... the jews are too in the picture since the death of the christ, qui bono ? they have helped strengthen christianity somehow. But yes, you are correct, they are more obvious.

I really see the masons and jews as an hydra with two heads.. the




Well than the masons are kaput, cause nobody ever followed it.

I don't think masons get into the details of contracts that much, if they've been around as long you say (which is debatable) it would behoove them to stay away from any details, contracts always run rot with cycles. My guess is they would stick to the shadows and just use "tools" of influence at times it were necessary.

Or if it were sooo old, the colonial masonry we know of just a sellable type, made for the public. And nothing to actually do with "real" masonry if it were even to go by that name. Any cult that you wonder of being around that long, you wouldn't even have a name for it, imo.

Jewry on the other hand is the in your face type as a repeatable beatable love doll. Would be the anti-thesis and required balance to it.

[expat4ever]

Mathew 7:7-8 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8"For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.…"

[Neuro]

Charlemange, The Merovingian Dynasty, Satanic Bloodline... The Merovingian bloodline, descended from Charlemagne

Carolus Magnus Charles the Great

is well documented



edit: I think people should come to their senses because it has been 4000 years that we are ruled by masonry, and this means that all the knowledge in circulation is more or less masonic since they control the flow of information that suits their goals and control history... we even can say that the US constitution is masonic, this to give an example. Secrecy is the real nefarious issue.
Ok where is your documentation? I am especially interested in the source of masonry being 4000 years old...

[Neuro]

Magnes made the same accusation than book did in this thread... and strangely he was admiring one of the founding fathers of sacred geometry and a bloodline king, sorry that doesnt/didnt add up. I think you are reading between my lines too much, hey but that is your perception. Which/whose reality ?

each perception is unique, and that is the meaning of Reality.

additionally I have been gone for very long periods of time since I left the big apple. It only has been since last summer that I am on a regular basis. But my interaction with him was often similar to books... so I can only talk of what I know. As we all do.
It is obvious your purpose is to distort perceptions of reality...

[aeondaze]

Ok where is your documentation? I am especially interested in the source of masonry being 4000 years old...

I've given up trying to get any rational, documented evidence from her. It is her opinion that a mere assertion or belief on her part constitutes proof, so I've given up on the thread.

Heck, even Horn is making more sense than her these days!

In the end I think I just feel sorry for her, it came to me the other day when I was infuriated with her irrational insistence and pathological compulsion with this topic. I believe she may be bi-polar and going through one of those manic stages, hence the frantic irrational obsession with goofy numbers and secret hidden knowledge.

Like with all 'sick' people I think its just best if I don't make it any worse.

:(

[Neuro]

I've given up trying to get any rational, documented evidence from her. It is her opinion that a mere assertion or belief on her part constitutes proof, so I've given up on the thread.

Heck, even Horn is making more sense than her these days!

In the end I think I just feel sorry for her, it came to me the other day when I was infuriated with her irrational insistence and pathological compulsion with this topic. I believe she may be bi-polar and going through one of those manic stages, hence the frantic irrational obsession with goofy numbers and secret hidden knowledge.

Like with all 'sick' people I think its just best if I don't make it any worse.

:(
That is a possibility, maybe she does have a distorted perception of reality, more than a purpose of distorting it for others... :(

[aeondaze]

That is a possibility, maybe she does have a distorted perception of reality, more than a purpose of distorting it for others... :(

I mean sometimes you just have to give someone the benefit of the doubt.

If that is the case then I'd rather leave it at that than continue with the callous disregard I've been guilty of, but thats just me.

You on the other hand have shown a lot more temperance. I have to admit I feel a little guilty for not having picked up on it earlier if truth be told...:-[

[singular_me]

listen to lectures of Manly P Hall, 33 degree mason... that is all on youtube. The root of masonry goes back to ancient egypt/sumeria... their ancient knowledge was adopted by mystery schools in alexandria... the knowledge was used by the elites already but NOT organized yet among them. The hebrews/jews merely borrowed from it - this knowledge was the mesopotemian framework however.

however if you google masonry and ancient egypt, you will already get many links... here is a headline: Extreme Egyptian Masonry. Freemasonry of the Ancient Egyptians: Manly P. Hall

I'd expect you to say that is all numbo jambo anyway, the problem is that numbo-jumbo rules the whole planet today as chinese, india, latin america use their own version on their people.

Id even say that this knowledge is at least 10K y old since I regard mainstream history/archeology as major deceptions.



Ok where is your documentation? I am especially interested in the source of masonry being 4000 years old...

[singular_me]

you really say whatever because my replies stretch your sense of reality.

But if you dont believe that everything/Reality is fractal and holographic, yes, indeed our reality is VERY different. I understand yours but you do not understand mine. That why the world is in a such mess because, most people do not get it.

My great advantage is that I am not polarized, hence my sense of reality being a lot more flexible than the average. I sit on the fence 24/7 :)

yesterday I believe, I posted a link: The Universe is a Brain.... maybe you should read it. Because since it is, it works the other round: OUR brain is the Universe. You may not believe this, although scientists are more and more geared in that direction, but that is your problem.

Physicists Find Evidence That The Universe Is A Giant Brain http://themindunleashed.org/2013/07/physicists-find-evidence-that-universe.html

what I think Neuro is that my level of awareness is very different than yours, but you are on your path and I am on mine... My aim in this life is "infinite awareness" , which means that I am for sure not going to discard a topic like sacred math that is still influencing all cultures/spiritual beliefs.





That is a possibility, maybe she does have a distorted perception of reality, more than a purpose of distorting it for others... :(

[Glass]

I think the main element of disagreement here is experiences in life that cause us to frame things with a particular bias. The bias of One.

I have had experiences that others have not had. I have all of the regular experiences that other people have that form the full extent of their experiences. Some people can have such limited experiences that theirs match just a subset of my life's experiences. And then that applies to me also because other people have had vastly wider experiences than me. Some people believe their experiences are the widest possible but in fact are extremely narrow. It's all our own judgement. The Judgement of One.

I have no doubt of a supra realm being in existence. We have bumped into each other multiple times. I have lived in haunted houses. I have no doubt the supernatural exist. Some are lost souls wandering about. Others are purposeful and malevolent. But it doesn't take a haunted house for there to be something supernatural going on. The bible and most religious texts including the satanic bible recognise this and accept it. Even if you don't believe it, realise that others do and if they are malevolent you need to protect yourself from their actions because they will act on those beliefs.

Free masonry was established as a gentile version of the kabalah (sic). As we know this goes back to babylon we know it is ancient.

The connections are all there. I know some of you have not had any strange experiences and your lives are pretty orthodox. Good or bad it is what it is. But others of us have different experiences for what ever reason and there is something to this. These explanation for this code maybe a simple one, that is the most efficient program instruction set that can be run, low error rate, easily replicated, suits most situations?

As matter is in constant vibration it makes sense that it would be affected by vibration, Introducing harmonic waves or maybe standing waves can have significant impact on objects. Positive and negative, destructive or productive. It seems some one harnessed this capability at some time. Some achieved great things. Why not seek this out again?

Its clear that nearly all of our institutions have lost their way, science included. The evidence of this is overwhelming. It would seem that we have been diverted as recently as < 100 years ago in a most egregious way and as a result human energy has been wasted and progress has been stymied.

[singular_me]

exactly Glass, all level of experiences are valuable in the fractal universe... but now lets imagine people's reaction if a topic like "Your Brain Is the Universe" , was debated on TV?

Your Brain Is the Universe - Part 1
By Deepak Chopra, M.D., FACP, Rudolph E. Tanzi, Ph.D., Joseph P. and Rose F. Kennedy Professor of Neurology at Harvard University, and Director of the Genetics and Aging Research Unit at Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH), P. Murali Doraiswamy, MBBS, FRCP, Professor of Psychiatry, Duke University Medical Center, Durham, North Carolina, Menas C. Kafatos, Ph.D., Fletcher Jones Endowed Professor in Computational Physics, Director, Center of Excellence, Chapman University.
http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/chopra/article/Your-Brain-Is-the-Universe-Part-1-4399381.php

society would most likely collapse... but I digress most people do not even have the awareness to conceptualize it, so here we are ruled by the masonic zionists instead.

The curse of Knowledge/Reality is to share it (sharing what one knows and comparing data), keep it for oneself just helps evil prosper. And this makes Knowledge itself esoteric.

(yes evil entities exist at at all levels of creation, but those entities, just like us, humans, made the choice to be the way they are. It is a free will Universe)

The only purpose of life is to access infinite awareness and give our life infinite possibilities... but now we are in a prison without bars.

[expat4ever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3tcxY2aEzUGood explanation Glass. As i pointed out in the space thread, our perceptions have changed over the years. There was a time when we all looked up and the stars rotated around the Earth. It was probably about the same time everyone had the perception that the earth is flat. If you took what we know about the universe now and brought it back to that time period it would blow their minds for certain.

Now keep in mind that we have only a very basic understanding of the universe. Lets fast forward 50 or 100 years and we may find out that this universe is only a small part of a much larger organism (God) comprised of 100's 1000's millions or even trillions of universes. Sounds far fetched by todays understanding of everything but only time will tell.

the video above is only one of many but you can watch that and surely figure out how "They" control everything.

Think of vibrations. Positive vibes, negative vibes. Whats put out on the airwaves constantly? All negative, we have known this for years yet the explanation for it is that thats what gets the highest ratings. It works. Look at the main page in this forum. 90% negative. Same with many other open forums that discuss world topics, tree of liberty is another one.

Back to vibrations. We are made up of mostly water. By now most know about the properties of water and how vibrations and even thoughts can effect the structure of water. If we are constantly bombarded by negativity on the tube then what structure will our bodies take on. How will that effect the overall conciousness. Step 1 to any awakening is to turn of the TV.

[singular_me]

actually when I was 12 years of age and started my first biology classes, I was already thinking that the Universe is the inside body/structure of God....

my 20 years agnosticism (result of all religious wars) radically ended with the understanding of fiat money and all the evil it has created in this world. And in sacred math I found the ultimate evidence that brought me back to the thinking I had when I was 12. So I obviously was wired on.

------------------------ missing the fibonacci sequence though

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/1922259_10200463673310119_2341709381325376594_n.jp g?oh=a77844dcbeb7731383f2d6bcee267c21&oe=55505BE8&__gda__=1430861151_e343a3d9e6527ac04fa0e9dd3b4e547 c

[Horn]

Then there's always the possibility that these sacred systems have already run their course, and the responses from Neuro, and Aeon were the end result.

Or to say any practice or products from the knowledge only ended up offending others in some rather fantastically strange way. I have no doubt their great usefulness in our working world and architecture in reality, but when used as a spiritual basis, a different more offensive result is found.

As you can tell by their fantastically strange and dramatic responses. The peoples heads popped, and that will always be the case.

[Neuro]

Then there's always the possibility that these sacred systems have already run their course, and the responses from Neuro, and Aeon were the end result.

Or to say any practice or products from the knowledge only ended up offending others in some rather fantastically strange way. I have no doubt their great usefulness in our working world and architecture in reality, but when used as a spiritual basis, a different more offensive result is found.

As you can tell by their fantastically strange and dramatic responses. The peoples heads popped, and that will always be the case.
I think you are exaggerating more than a bit now. I was asking what the significance of certain numbers were beyond a dogmatic religious perspective. I wasn't worthy of a response because I am aparently without my own knowledge apparently an atheist. Earth travels around the sun at 66,600 miles an hour... So what? IMO I gave perfectly reasonable explanations why snails shells and spiral galaxies grow in the shape of the Fibonacci sequence, and also why stars may blink at golden ratio. Sorry you think those are "strange and fantastic responses". Well nice to hear from you Horn, it has been educational...

[Horn]

See, see right there...

[singular_me]

every time you were given the beginning of an explanation, you threw in your "that 's nature's way/it's a coincidence/I dont see anything sacred/etc... so why bother? There is no dogma, thats geometry applied on a macro/micro scale.

you and I dont ask the same questions. A quick example: as soon as I saw the immense pine cone statue (surrounded by 2 peacocks) in vatican's front yard, sorry but I wanted to know what the heck it did mean.... isnt NBC logo a peacock by the way ?

coincidence? : the distance from the Paternoster Square Column in the UK to the Egyptian obelisk in St. Peter’s Square is 888 miles. Really. (secrets in plain sight documentary) An infinite connection allegiance?

The fact is that the western culture (just like any other) still is deep entrenched into Numbers... why are they universal to study patterns in nature and used in spirituality?

BUDDHISM IN THE NUMBERS
http://www.urbandharma.org/udharma7/numbers.html

Symbolic Significance of Numbers in Hinduism
http://www.hinduwebsite.com/numbers.asp

THE NUMBERS IN THE QURAN
http://www.quranmiracles.com/2011/05/the-numbers-in-the-quran/

THE SIGNIFICANCE OF NUMBERS IN SCRIPTURE
http://agapebiblestudy.com/documents/The%20Significance%20of%20Numbers%20in%20Scripture .htm

Numbers are not an new age invention. It rather looks like a one world religion to me. Yet belief systems are constantly at war... Good job NWO :)

Goldissima/Singular is a masonic agent, right. Thats the label one gets for pointing to the obvious.


I think you are exaggerating more than a bit now. I was asking what the significance of certain numbers were beyond a dogmatic religious perspective. I wasn't worthy of a response because I am aparently without my own knowledge apparently an atheist. Earth travels around the sun at 66,600 miles an hour... So what? IMO I gave perfectly reasonable explanations why snails shells and spiral galaxies grow in the shape of the Fibonacci sequence, and also why stars may blink at golden ratio. Sorry you think those are "strange and fantastic responses". Well nice to hear from you Horn, it has been educational...

[Horn]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7340&stc=1
144,000 / 6 = 24,000

24,000 / 6 = 4,000

4,000 / 6 = 666.666..7

[Dogman]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7340&stc=1
144,000 / 6 = 24,000

24,000 / 6 = 4,000

4,000 / 6 = 666.666..7




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