Sleepwalking

[Hitch]

This is pretty frustrating for me, weirdest morning yet. I've never had a history of sleepwalking. I honestly don't think I'm sleepwalking. Last night, I even taped a piece of fishing line across the door to the bedroom. It was still taped when I woke up this morning in the same spot.

I guess I'm trying to 100% rule out sleepwalking. I don't have any of the symptoms of a sleepwalker either. I'm not stressed, life has honestly never been better. Works been great. I'm happy, healthy, enjoying life, etc.

I just don't fucking get it.

[Horn]

Conscious living has that aspect also, when life at home is well, work becomes a drag, and vice verse.

Probably points to some larger picture that remains unresolved if even noticed.

[Hitch]

Conscious living has that aspect also, when life at home is well, work becomes a drag, and vice verse.

Probably points to some larger picture that remains unresolved if even noticed.

All I know is everything has been going great, from work, to home life. I absolutely love my job at this point, from the work I do, to the guys I work with. My family is doing well. I'm living the life I want to live.

I don't think I've ever been happier than I am right now.

It doesn't make any sense at all...

[Horn]

The fishing line could be symbolic for something you're trying to catch?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O040xuq2FR0

Remember Hitch, I'm only ever trying to help. :)

[Hitch]

Remember Hitch, I'm only ever trying to help. :)

Yeah right, I know you better than that, horn. :)

[Horn]

It's impossible to catch her, Hitch.

The unique animal will sneak up on you.

[Hitch]

It's impossible to catch her, Hitch.

The unique animal will sneak up on you.

Horn, you are creeping me out. Getting a breakfast burrito at the local shack this morning, a worker there mentioned the owner wants me to ask her out.

This thread isn't even about women. What a bizarre coincidence that is.

[Dogman]

Horn, you are creeping me out. Getting a breakfast burrito at the local shack this morning, a worker there mentioned the owner wants me to ask her out.

This thread isn't even about women. What a bizarre coincidence that is.


Do not overthink this, sounds like mama from heaven, tho it depends!!......What does the owner look like or do you need to cut and run ! ;)

What ever the case with your dreams, it does sound like your subconscious is trying to work something out !

[Hitch]

What does the owner look like or do you need to cut and run ! ;)!

LOL, I will send you a pm and you'll see why this is so funny....

[Dogman]

LOL, I will send you a pm and you'll see why this is so funny....

Yep, understand, considering !

Could bring new meaning to the saying "Sleeping with the fishes". LoL!

;)

[Hitch]

What ever the case with your dreams, it does sound like your subconscious is trying to work something out !

It doesn't have anything to do with dreams. Basically, I'm finding things moved around/missing in the morning. In weird places. This has been going on for months. On and off. Usually for a few days, then it doesn't happen for weeks. For example, 2 mornings ago, I find my bottle of dishwashing soap, instead of next to the sink, missing, found it in the bathroom.

Yesterday, I found the can of peanuts turned upsidedown in the morning. That's when I started thinking I might be sleepwalking. Maybe I sleepwalked and had a snack at night.

So last night before bed, I taped a piece of fishing line across the bedroom door. I figured if I was sleepwalking I'd walk right through it during the night.

So, the fishing line was there when I woke up this morning, same exact place. I went into the kitchen to get coffee, and had a serious wtf. I found, no shit, a wine glass on the counter with 3 cracked eggs in it. WTF.

[Dogman]

It doesn't have anything to do with dreams. Basically, I'm finding things moved around/missing in the morning. In weird places. This has been going on for months. On and off. Usually for a few days, then it doesn't happen for weeks. For example, 2 mornings ago, I find my bottle of dishwashing soap, instead of next to the sink, missing, found it in the bathroom.

Yesterday, I found the can of peanuts turned upsidedown in the morning. That's when I started thinking I might be sleepwalking. Maybe I sleepwalked and had a snack at night.

So last night before bed, I taped a piece of fishing line across the bedroom door. I figured if I was sleepwalking I'd walk right through it during the night.

So, the fishing line was there when I woke up this morning, same exact place. I went into the kitchen to get coffee, and had a serious wtf. I found, no shit, a wine glass on the counter with 3 cracked eggs in it. WTF.

Check for sea monkeys boarding while you are snoozing !

;)

[Hitch]

Check for sea monkeys boarding while you are snoozing !

;)

Dogman, I know this thread isn't really a big deal, but thinking I could be sleepwalking is giving me the creeps. If you are going to post, please keep it serious at least.

Tonight, I'm going to rig up an elaborate trap up to the ship's bell. That bell is louder than shit and will probably wake up my neighbors as well as myself.

[Dogman]

Dogman, I know this thread isn't really a big deal, but thinking I could be sleepwalking is giving me the creeps.

Tonight, I'm going to rig up an elaborate trap up to the ship's bell. That bell is louder than shit and will probably wake up my neighbors as well as myself.


For truth I do believe most people do sleepwalk sometimes in their life's. I know I did when young, but also am sure that several were just dreams of my sleepwalking. You maybe getting up and moving abut. But no harm so far it seems,

Do not know what to say except if alone as outsiders are ruled out, just kick back and go with the flow..

[Hitch]

Do not know what to say except as alone as outsiders are ruled out, just kick back and go with the flow..

I'm about 99.9% sure I am not sleepwalking. I've been researching it all morning, and I don't have any of the medical causes or symptoms of it. I'm sleeping like a baby, eating healthy, exercising, and feeling great.

I'm almost to the point of spending the money on a camera to record at night.

[Dogman]

I'm about 99.9% sure I am not sleepwalking. I've been researching it all morning, and I don't have any of the medical causes or symptoms of it. I'm sleeping like a baby, eating healthy, exercising, and feeling great.

I'm almost to the point of spending the money on a camera to record at night.


as I understand it you do not need to have any medical problems, iir when I did is was usually because of some kind of stress, short? or long ?

not a clue.

If things are moving around on your boat, and it is secured during the night, it has to be YOU doing the moving unless you believe in the paranormal and the location of your slip at the dock sometimes in the past however long ago, sumpthing happened, then you can feel free to blame spirits or ghosts messing with you!

:)

Scatter garlic around the cabin for grins and giggles, stop by a church and score some holy water and then spray it around!

:)

[Horn]

There's no breadth distance in space time, for which my arrows cannot eclipse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbr0fOAT7x8

Guaranteed :)

[Hitch]

If things are moving around on your boat, and it is secured during the night, it has to be YOU doing the moving unless you believe in the paranormal and the location of your slip at the dock sometimes in the past however long ago, sumpthing happened, then you can feel free to blame spirits or ghosts messing with you!

It's not just on the boat, but in the rv as well. One time, I woke up in the middle of the night because the fan in the bathroom turned on. It's loud as heck. A few months ago, when getting out of bed in the morning, the light would turn on for me as I was getting out of bed. That happened for several days in a row. Another time, I woke up to my cell phone alarm for work. I'm surprised I heard it, because it was inside the refrigerator, not next to my bed like I set it every time for work.

Mostly just annoying things. It's not a big deal I suppose, and thankfully it only happens on occasion for a few days not all the time.

I've wasted too much time and energy trying to logically explain something that makes just no sense, especially this morning. 3 effing eggs in a wine glass, who even thinks of that. What would you think if you found that in the morning?

Anyway, life is great, I'm not going to let this stuff get to me. It is what it is.

[Dogman]

It's not just on the boat, but in the rv as well. One time, I woke up in the middle of the night because the fan in the bathroom turned on. It's loud as heck. A few months ago, when getting out of bed in the morning, the light would turn on for me as I was getting out of bed. That happened for several days in a row. Another time, I woke up to my cell phone alarm for work. I'm surprised I heard it, because it was inside the refrigerator, not next to my bed like I set it every time for work.

Mostly just annoying things. It's not a big deal I suppose, and thankfully it only happens on occasion for a few days not all the time.

I've wasted too much time and energy trying to logically explain something that makes just no sense, especially this morning. 3 effing eggs in a wine glass, who even thinks of that. What would you think if you found that in the morning?

Anyway, life is great, I'm not going to let this stuff get to me. It is what it is.

Interesting to say the least !

It does sound like your id, ego and superego are going to town with each other in your sleep!

Ether that or you just have a minor case of possession :) but as no real harm has been done, other than making your hair stand up on their ends.

Kick back and ride it out!

[Horn]

I hope you at least drank the eggs.

My arrows are very valuable, and not let go to waste.

[EE_]

It must be one of these three...
1. you are sleep walking
2. that crazy chick you were dating is stalking you and coming in at night
3. you are losing your mind

I had a friend crash at my place a few years ago, a known sleep walker, when I woke up in the morning and walked out into the kitchen I said WTF! All kinds of food was out on the counter, the refrigerator door was left open, there was open packages of meat at my desk that was dripping all over the floor and he was sound asleep in the recliner chair.
He had no idea he got up in the middle of the night.

[EE_]

Why do so many middle-aged men feel so lost?
Caught between baby-boomers and Generation Y, today’s middle-aged men increasingly see themselves as lost souls. Lucy Cavendish lends an ear

'I am surplus to society’s requirement, like one of those lone male deer that performs no function at all' Photo: Alamy
By Lucy Cavendish7:00AM GMT 27 Feb 2015753 Comments

I am sitting by the swimming pool at the Canyon Ranch resort in Tucson, Arizona, only it is not really a resort, it is a fitness/wellness/life-enhancing centre where people who are very stressed come to detox and, as I am discovering, “find” themselves. But this resort is not brimming with stressed-out women, worn thin and ragged by juggling motherhood, wifedom and being the heads of companies. No. The classes here are full of men – men with great big identity issues.

There is 45-year-old Lee, who has just “gotten divorced” and has, in the course of a month, slept with 15 women. “I don’t see myself as that type of man,” he says, “but I feel so lonely and I don’t know what to do with my life.” There is Ryan, aged 53, who has never married and is in crisis about why he hasn’t. Then there is Steve, 49, a travel agent, long-time married, who has hit a midlife crisis. He says he really does want to buy a Harley-Davidson and head off down Route 66. “Is that wrong?” he asks. “I just don’t know what I want in my life anymore.”

They are all part of a “sandwich generation”: they sit between the baby boomers and the digital natives. And they are a group who have, according to recent statistics, lost their way. The Samaritans Suicide Statistics Report for 2014 shows that men aged 40-44 are the demographic group with the highest rate of suicide, nearly four times that of women the same age; for those aged 45-54, the rate is roughly three times higher for men than women. New data from the Office of National Statistics confirm those findings. And although the statistics aren’t always straightforward (there may be under-reporting of female suicides), things aren’t getting better: while the male rate fell for most of the past decade, since 2012 it has been back on the rise.

In the Samaritans report about the data, Professor Rory O’Connor, then the head of the suicidal behaviour research group at Stirling University, said that the focus had shifted over recent decades from younger men being more at risk of suicide to middle-aged men.

“Men currently in their midyears are caught between their traditional silent, strong and austere fathers who went to work and provided for their families, and the more progressive, open and individualistic generation of their sons. They do not know which of these two very different ways of life and masculine culture they should follow.”
The pressure to live up to what the report describes as a “masculine ‘gold standard’ which prizes power, control and invincibility” can turn personal troubles such as losing a job into a crisis in a way that it might not for women. The sense of suffering “defeat as a man” can be more acute in middle age, when the responsibilities are greatest.
The result? Men of this generation are in crisis. We often focus on teenage boys and their problems, ranging from depression to delinquency, or on women and their role in society, from young and single to working mother to stay-at-home woman. Yet we rarely look at the role of men, especially middle-aged men – and the problem does not only apply to those who have suffered from the familiar seismic shifts in their lives, such as divorce or the loss of a job.

Why do middle-aged men feel as though they're on a road to nowhere? (ALAMY)
As my friend Tom, a counsellor, says, “Whereas women stride forwards and get themselves together, [in general] men just don’t do that. They like things to remain as they were. They don’t like change. They like women to support them, really, so they are emotionally or spiritually or physically lazy. Some are all three and this laziness is very prevalent in the sandwich generation men, and it often leaves them lost, lonely and drifting towards an uncertain future when they should be at an age whereby everything is settled.”

Obviously not all men are like this, but there does seem to be a preponderance of men over the age of 45 who feel as if they are on the scrap-heap. Take this as an example: a few weeks ago I was at a friend’s 50th birthday party. It was great fun but most of the men I talked to were in some form of meltdown. One of them – never married, no kids – hadn’t had a job for the past five years and was working unpaid as a carer. It occurred to me that, for a man aged 52, this was quite an odd situation to be in, no wife or kids or money or even a house to call his own. I asked if he was happy about this. He shook his head vehemently.
“Not at all,” he said. He then explained that “it” just hadn’t happened for him. Girlfriends had come and gone. He had found it hard to commit – and not just, as the cliché goes, in his relationships. He had flitted from one job to another, never quite finding the “thing” he wanted to do. He had worked for a bank but never felt he fitted in. So he had left that job and retrained as a landscape gardener, and that hadn’t suited him either, although he had liked the outdoors element of it. This became a pattern, a shifting life with seemingly no purpose.
“I feel I am lost now,” he said, “and it’s too late to change things. I am surplus to society’s requirement, like one of those lone male deer that performs no function at all and gets forced from the herd because of it.”

Suicide rates (per 100,000) among men, by age group, 2001-2013. Source: ONS
After him I bumped into more men, all seemingly versions of the same. The divorced ones were all miserable, most of them lamenting the terrible downturn their lives had taken – no house (gone to the ex), no kids (gone to the ex), no future (what’s the point?).

A friend of mine, Henry, 50, who divorced seven years ago, considers himself as part of a group he refers to as “remaindered men”. “It is the sense that we colluded in the process of making ourselves surplus to requirement,” he explains. “We married capable women who took over every aspect of life. They ran the household, the children, the social life. For a while it seems a good meal ticket to be on, but in the end the horrible logic of the process results in us being without any kind of a role at all and not much self-confidence to find another one within the existing framework.
“We are caught between the old model of being the breadwinner and the new model of being the co-washer-upper and feeder, and the truth is we never really mastered either of these roles – old or new – and this has led to a profound sense of crisis in men. Unless you really are able to look back at what happened, you can’t move on.
“The immediate reaction to divorce is to sink into a slump of despair, but then you turn into a teenager again – it’s the false paradise of endless encounters with new women. Men lost their way when they stopped going out and killing the food or bringing in the bacon. I feel my generation of men inhabit a place that I call neutered uselessness. We are reactive rather than proactive. Many of us have lost our self-confidence and self-respect, and become insular and inward-looking.”
It is certainly true that changes in the economy in recent decades, with a shift away from manufacturing, have removed a source of male pride, identity and companionship. And psychological studies (such as a 2013 survey of 10,000 people published in the journal Economica which examined the way in which we adjust to new circumstances) show that women are better able to adjust in the wake of a major life change. In divorce, for instance, women typically come out marginally happier even though they often suffer a bigger financial hit; the Economica survey showed that men tend to be especially badly knocked by unemployment, an effect that persists for up to five years.
Sebastian Morley, a former commander in the SAS who has seen tours in Northern Ireland, Iraq and Afghanistan, agrees that men have lost their way. “I find them hard to deal with,” he says. “They are either super-competitive or massively defeatist.”
He runs courses for women at The Camp, a weight-loss and fitness boot camp based in Scotland. “I find women are motivated, eager, easy to deal with and naturally empathetic towards each other,” Morley says. “There is a spirit that exists between women that really kicks in when they are in difficulties. They help each other and they are also more willing and able to talk about their hopes and fears. This is why women can change their lives around – they have that mutable ability to do what is best for them and their families.”
He did consider doing a similar course for men but decided against it. “I have seen how men react to each other. They cannot pull together. They can be very aggressive in trying to outdo each other. It makes them impossible to work with.”

The troubles of men rarely get our attention (GETTY)
I spent a week with Morley and his right-hand man, Dale House, a former marine who is young, super-fit and handsome. For House, married and a step-parent, life is quite simple: being a man means to work and provide as well as being supportive to his partner. On the one hand he is a Real Man (very strong on boundaries, earns money); on the other, he is touchy-feely. His wife also works and he is supportive towards her and their daughter.
“I see myself as a traditional man really,” he says. “I am focused on what I want. I lay down the rules but they are thoughtful ones. I love and support my partner and her daughter, whom I consider as my own, and I think our family functions very well because of this. I am very clear in my expectations but I am very warm.” He agrees that many men today are “lost”, and believes “they need a stint in the Army following rules and discipline and turning in to proper men”.
But is it as simple as that? The younger generation seems to have become more metrosexual. They cook, clean and take care of their children. They use grooming products and wax their bits and are far more “feminised” than the 40-plus-something men I am meeting: since 2013, sales of male-specific toiletries have surpassed shaving products.
So are the middle-aged men I meet part of a lost generation? Too old for male manicures and too young to be the breadwinner, the Real Man laying down the law with a wife at home who fixes them a G&T when they get back from work?
Terry Real, a psychologist and the author of How Can I Get Through to You? Reconnecting Men and Women, thinks the time has come for men to readjust their sights. Our culture’s masculine code, he says, dictates that “men don’t need relationships, men don’t need to be connected, men don’t need to be heartfelt”.
The answer, Real says, is to understand and then reject that old, outdated part of the masculine code, which gave a sense of entitlement, a sense that men can “go home, rip open our belts, pop open a beer, belch and be loved. We just don’t get away with that anymore.”
As for Henry, he has hope. He has recently found a job, has a new partner and has come off the dole. “It’s a start,” he says. “You’ve got to start somewhere, haven’t you? Even when you’re 50.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/mens-health/11425655/Why-do-so-many-middle-aged-men-feel-so-lost.html

[Hitch]

EE, please read post #3 in this thread. I'm really surprised you assumed the worst in me.

[EE_]

EE, please read post #3 in this thread. I'm really surprised you assumed the worst in me.

I did not assume the worst in you at all my friend. I just saw that article and thought it would be a good place to post it. You are a sandwich generation...so just to be aware for the future.

What about my reply to sleep walking, did that apply?
Regarding post #3, you did say everything is going perfect and it doesn't make sense at all...what did that mean?

[Hitch]

Regarding post #3, you did say everything is going perfect and it doesn't make sense at all...what did that mean?

The things that I posted happening don't make sense. I can understand why you'd think I'm losing my mind. However the fact is I'm not. I'm extremely focused, I'm kicking ass at work. I've got owners, captains thanking me. I've got customers requesting me. One good thing after another is happening to me.

Sleepwalking, losing my mind, etc. None of it makes any logical sense to me. I'm truly baffled.

[EE_]

The things that I posted happening don't make sense. I can understand why you'd think I'm losing my mind. However the fact is I'm not. I'm extremely focused, I'm kicking ass at work. I've got owners, captains thanking me. I've got customers requesting me. One good thing after another is happening to me.

Sleepwalking, losing my mind, etc. None of it makes any logical sense to me. I'm truly baffled.

See, that's when people start questioning life, when everything is going perfect. Is there something you want to talk about, hmmm?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48oLsDImC5A

[Hitch]

See, that's when people start questioning life, when everything is going perfect. Is there something you want to talk about, hmmm?

EE, love you my friend, but you are being as frustrating as horn.

[Dogman]

See, that's when people start questioning life, when everything is going perfect. Is there something you want to talk about, hmmm?

YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48oLsDImC5A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48oLsDImC5A)

I knows I is a tad nuts!

Make's going through and dealing with life interesting and some what bearable!

What worry's me are the ones that are a tad or total nutzoided out and do not know they are nuts can be a worry or problem for themselves or others!

Hoot !

;)

[EE_]

EE, love you my friend, but you are being as frustrating as horn.

I love you too man...and I'm always here for you if you need to talk :)
I'm not a sandwich generation.

[EE_]

I knows I is a tad nuts!

Make's going through and dealing with life interesting and some what bearable!

What worry's me are the ones that are a tad or total nutzoided out and do not know they are nuts can be a worry or problem for themselves or others!

Hoot !

;)

I think I'm nuts too. That's one thing I miss about living in California, no one could tell if you're nuts :p

Ya know what, I think everyone here at gsus is nuts!

[Hitch]

I love you too man...and I'm always here for you if you need to talk :)
I'm not a sandwich generation.

Thank you, but I don't need to talk. I believe if you have any issues in life, stop, assess, learn, then fix them. Secondly, if your life doesn't keep getting better, you are doing something wrong.

Nothing is wrong. I am fine. I don't believe in being labeled by a generation as well. WTF does sandwich generation even mean? That's probably lumping a bunch of folks together, whom I have nothing in common with anyway.

Man, what a mistake making this thread.

[Horn]

EE, love you my friend, but you are being as frustrating as horn.

lol, I said it before and I'll say it again, this time in Spanish. :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMSdrmt1sAo

[EE_]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlBPyBn8LOA

[osoab]

Go see a priest and have him bless you with holy water. The shit happening to you is to weird to passed off as sleepwalking or stalkers. Either that or you have the ability to spin a good yarn.

Time to bring in some artillery.

You said it happened in the RV too, so I don't think it is the marina you have your boat.

[Hitch]

Go see a priest and have him bless you with holy water. The shit happening to you is to weird to passed off as sleepwalking or stalkers. Either that or you have the ability to spin a good yarn.

Time to bring in some artillery.

You said it happened in the RV too, so I don't think it is the marina you have your boat.

I might get to that point, holy water and priest. As of now it just seems like an annoying pest that shows up for a few days, then is gone.

I'm going to close this thread. Hope you folks don't thing I'm nuts.