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Hitch
8th June 2015, 12:23 PM
Shakespeare's ugly stik tiger was recommended. The price seems reasonable as well. This is for ocean fishing, any personal recommendations?

I almost broke my pole today. What happened, was I hooked into a lingcod. That cod took my bait and dug himself into the rocks and wouldn't budge. The pole bent down so far I thought it was going to snap. I thought I got snagged on the rocks at the time, and was about to cut the line, but gave it one more yank and all of a sudden I was free.

That fish put up one wild fight. When I got him in the boat, I measured him. 20 inches, they need to be 22 inches to legally keep. Hated letting him go, as those lingcods are the prize fish to catch.

After that, I realized I'd be in trouble if I hooked into a really big one.

I did come home with 5 very nice size blue rockfish, so dinner will be rockfish. I'll have plenty to give out to my neighbors as well.

Dogman
8th June 2015, 12:27 PM
Humm?

This would not cut it then !

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7604&stc=1

Hooting and grinning !

;)

osoab
8th June 2015, 12:38 PM
An ultralight with 6lb test line. :D

Hitch
8th June 2015, 01:02 PM
OK, no rockfish for Dogman and Osoab! ;D I'm going to use Chad's smoker, you guys are missing out!

Dogman
8th June 2015, 01:13 PM
OK, no rockfish for Dogman and Osoab! ;D I'm going to use Chad's smoker, you guys are missing out!

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7605&stc=1


Huge Bunch Of Hooting and Grinning !

;)

Camp Bassfish
8th June 2015, 03:09 PM
Need to play your drag better. What size Shakespeare?

I should say what weight? I'm a Berkley fan myself for everyday stuff. They make some great rod through carbon fiber rods as well, depending on what you want to spend. One of the best techniques that I've yet to master is "back reeling" and essentially being your own "drag". *

*Jewboo, find me a cross dressing old Cuban here. :)

Hitch
8th June 2015, 06:08 PM
Need to play your drag better. What size Shakespeare?

I should say what weight? I'm a Berkley fan myself for everyday stuff. They make some great rod through carbon fiber rods as well, depending on what you want to spend. One of the best techniques that I've yet to master is "back reeling" and essentially being your own "drag". *

*Jewboo, find me a cross dressing old Cuban here. :)

Well, the rod I'm using now is probably 30 years old. I'm drift fishing. So, I motor upwind/swell, drop bait and drift over the fishing spot.

This lingcod, amazingly, anchored the boat. Stopped me dead, and all that weight of the boat, etc transferred to the pole and fishing line.

You are correct I didn't have my drag set correctly. My Penn 60 fishing reel is probably 30 years old as well. It works fine, but not that smooth and accurate.

I was thinking of a shakespeare tiger 7' feet in medium action.

Hitch
8th June 2015, 06:38 PM
This is the fish I hope to catch. Big lingcod...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icND-gu1fj0

EE_
8th June 2015, 06:44 PM
This is the fish I hope to catch. Big lingcod...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU-OuJnFETs

Hitch
8th June 2015, 07:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU-OuJnFETs

EE, I go fishing in the ocean in a 12 foot boat.

I'm lunch to a killer whale. I really think it's bad luck you might be sending my way?

I'd rather have good luck.

Neuro
8th June 2015, 09:38 PM
http://comm181.pbworks.com/f/1303953779/trolling%20fishing_pic.png
You'll catch more with this rig, than with a rod Hitch...

gunDriller
9th June 2015, 04:25 AM
i notice that fishing gear is often on sale for a BIG discount at some garage sales.

Camp Bassfish
9th June 2015, 04:35 AM
There's no substitute for a well serviced reel either. if you have someone local I would have it done yearly. What pound test line are you using? With bass....especially smallmouth, they are very keen to spotting line, thus the lighter the tackle, (usually 6#) the more hook ups. But then you have to play them more or they'll break the line.

My ocean experience has been limited to Cod, Haddock, and school Tuna, but for all of those we were using the equivelent of rope... or so it seems. At the very least I would have 3 set- ups. Ultra-Light/Light.... Medium .... and Heavy. Of course you'll hook your biggest fish on your lightest tackle, but that's to be expected. LOL

*I'd like to think 20# mono with a 3' steel leader would land that Ling Cod.

Dogman
9th June 2015, 04:57 AM
There's no substitute for a well serviced reel either. if you have someone local I would have it done yearly. What pound test line are you using? With bass....especially smallmouth, they are very keen to spotting line, thus the lighter the tackle, (usually 6#) the more hook ups. But then you have to play them more or they'll break the line.

My ocean experience has been limited to Cod, Haddock, and school Tuna, but for all of those we were using the equivelent of rope... or so it seems. At the very least I would have 3 set- ups. Ultra-Light/Light.... Medium .... and Heavy. Of course you'll hook your biggest fish on your lightest tackle, but that's to be expected. LOL

Murphy's law # (pick a number) !

It will be the lightest rod & tackle that the large ones will strike, it is karma in action !

But that also is where the real fun begins, and it boils down to nitty gritty luck and skill !

Having a good reel and line without cuts or nicks that are weak spots where the line will break and then having the SKILL and knowledge (or dumb luck) of setting the line drag as you play that monster, to keep from snapping the rod or the line.

But that is more for sports fishing, (sport because the fish has a chance) . Fish that get into weeds, snags and rocks are going to be a toss up no matter what rod & tackle you use, unless you are using wire rope and a winch that you borrow from the job ;) .

Camp Bassfish is right reel servicing is important, have it done or do it yourself if you have the skill set to do so properly. Parts for rebuilding or proper maintenance can get iffy, the older the reel becomes.

The Shakespeare tiger 7' sounds nice, one thing to keep in mind is rods do age and your 30 year old rod is due for retirement or given to a kid or someone because it is old and probably getting brittle.

Also the reel if it has any plastic parts in it, they are old and probably getting brittle and will break or strip just when you are calling on it, which is another murphy's law!

EE_
9th June 2015, 06:57 AM
EE, I go fishing in the ocean in a 12 foot boat.

I'm lunch to a killer whale. I really think it's bad luck you might be sending my way?

I'd rather have good luck.

lol, this ain't Seaworld...

http://www.orlandotravelproviders.com//2012/images/bigstock-Killer-Whale-At-Sea-World-Orla-7090265.jpg

Aren't you the guy that thought 'San Andreas' would be a cool move to see?

A life without risk is not really living

Hitch
9th June 2015, 08:26 AM
Aren't you the guy that thought 'San Andreas' would be a cool move to see?

A life without risk is not really living

I really just want to see one particular scene in the movie, the scene that I was at working when it was filmed. Funny thing about that, we were instructed not to talk that scene until the movie came out. Furthermore, if we were witnessed doing anything with our phones, they were going to physically take our phone away.

Hitch
9th June 2015, 08:35 AM
A life without risk is not really living

I took a risk going out yesterday morning. Visibility wasn't that great, and I couldn't see land. So, I had to navigate with a compass and the gps on my phone. Well, it turns out my compass failed me. I kept getting off course according to the GPS. I was switching back and forth between using the compass and the GPS.

What happened is very odd. The compass won't work in my hand. If I set it down untouched, it works fine. Once I figured that out, I could hold a course and was fine. This morning I was playing around with this compass, checking it against other compasses. The compass works, but not if I hold it. It's off by better then 45 degrees.

So, my advise is check your compasses. Know they work before you need them.

Neuro
9th June 2015, 10:43 AM
I took a risk going out yesterday morning. Visibility wasn't that great, and I couldn't see land. So, I had to navigate with a compass and the gps on my phone. Well, it turns out my compass failed me. I kept getting off course according to the GPS. I was switching back and forth between using the compass and the GPS.

What happened is very odd. The compass won't work in my hand. If I set it down untouched, it works fine. Once I figured that out, I could hold a course and was fine. This morning I was playing around with this compass, checking it against other compasses. The compass works, but not if I hold it. It's off by better then 45 degrees.

So, my advise is check your compasses. Know they work before you need them.
It couldnt be because of ocean current drift? It seems unlikely you would affect the compass needle, by holding the compass! Unless you have a magnet in your coat arm...

Hitch
9th June 2015, 11:28 AM
It couldnt be because of ocean current drift? It seems unlikely you would affect the compass needle, by holding the compass! Unless you have a magnet in your coat arm...

I was thinking body heat maybe? Also what's strange is if I switch hands, the compass bearing changes again, and they are still both wrong. I tried it back at the dock, tied up and not moving as well. I'm holding it as level as I can. Yet, I set it down on the table, the needle moves to the correct bearing. I can't figure this out. Must be a bad compass.

Dogman
9th June 2015, 11:37 AM
I was thinking body heat maybe? Also what's strange is if I switch hands, the compass bearing changes again, and they are still both wrong. I tried it back at the dock, tied up and not moving as well. I'm holding it as level as I can. Yet, I set it down on the table, the needle moves to the correct bearing. I can't figure this out. Must be a bad compass.

Try taking off all of your clothes and stand on the dock to see if you get the same results! ;)

Tho, it cannot be explained, some people cannot wear some mechanical watches without them stopping!

Dam near impossible for a compass to go wrong, seeing that the needle and pivot basically it, along with the rose.

Try the clothes thing at high noon, so the suns magnetic field focal point is overhead!

LMAO !

Carry on !!

:)

Edit,

Body heat should have Nada to do with anything.

mick silver
11th June 2015, 10:22 AM
theys are the best fishing poles I have every used . try one anyone ....http://www.177air.com/Daisy.BB.guns/IMG_6758.JPG

Hitch
11th June 2015, 08:11 PM
theys are the best fishing poles I have every used . try one anyone ....http://www.177air.com/Daisy.BB.guns/IMG_6758.JPG

Next time I go out, I'm taking a 22lr revolver with subsonic rounds. I figure a shot or two would allow me to bring the fish into the boat, without that fish destroying and sinking me. Should I need it. :)

Dogman
11th June 2015, 08:24 PM
Mount one of these for bringing home the fish fillets.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7615&stc=1

Grin !

Hitch
11th June 2015, 08:27 PM
Do you guys understand the term 'sport' in sport fishing?

Dogman
11th June 2015, 08:53 PM
Just offering wee suggestions to improve your chance of keeping your frying pan and stomach happy !

;)

Hitch
11th June 2015, 09:01 PM
Just offering wee suggestions to improve your chance of keeping your frying pan and stomach happy !

;)

You need to come out and visit sometime. :) This fishing spot, I catch way more than I could eat as it is.

It's great fun. You should plan an adventure, a road trip.

Do keep in mind that you would be going to sea in a small boat. :)

Dogman
11th June 2015, 09:08 PM
You need to come out and visit sometime. :) This fishing spot, I catch way more than I could eat as it is.

It's great fun. You should plan an adventure, a road trip.

Do keep in mind that you would be going to sea in a small boat. :)

As long as the boats name is not the "Minnow" all would be good !

;)

Hitch
11th June 2015, 09:52 PM
As long as the boats name is not the "Minnow" all would be good !

;)

SS Minnow. She's good to go! :)

Neuro
11th June 2015, 10:53 PM
I was thinking body heat maybe? Also what's strange is if I switch hands, the compass bearing changes again, and they are still both wrong. I tried it back at the dock, tied up and not moving as well. I'm holding it as level as I can. Yet, I set it down on the table, the needle moves to the correct bearing. I can't figure this out. Must be a bad compass.
Did you have an MRI recently?

Glass
11th June 2015, 11:23 PM
What happened is very odd. The compass won't work in my hand. If I set it down untouched, it works fine. Once I figured that out, I could hold a course and was fine. This morning I was playing around with this compass, checking it against other compasses. The compass works, but not if I hold it. It's off by better then 45 degrees.

So, my advise is check your compasses. Know they work before you need them.

wasn't a Bear Grylls survival compass? I had this problem recently looking for a small pocket compass. The stores were full of BG crappola. I could not find one that knew where north was. Did not think to put it down and see if it was me. Should have. I tend to zap people if I touch them.

Why I went back to wearing a wrist watch. Doesn't help in places where you cant see the sun though. I found a small pocket compass that was fairly consistent. If it doesn't show north, it usually is showing south. Had a few other nick knacks attached to it, can opener and some other stuff.

Hitch
12th June 2015, 04:14 AM
Did you have an MRI recently?

Wool!!! I bet it was static electricity. Both times I used this compass I was wearing my favorite wool shirt.

http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/static_materials.htm#.VXq-ikbQM4U

Dogman
12th June 2015, 04:21 AM
Wool!!! I bet it was static electricity. Both times I used this compass I was wearing my favorite wool shirt.

http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/static_materials.htm#.VXq-ikbQM4U

Or it is your personality !


;)

Hitch
12th June 2015, 04:23 AM
wasn't a Bear Grylls survival compass? I had this problem recently looking for a small pocket compass. The stores were full of BG crappola. I could not find one that knew where north was. Did not think to put it down and see if it was me. Should have. I tend to zap people if I touch them.

Why I went back to wearing a wrist watch. Doesn't help in places where you cant see the sun though. I found a small pocket compass that was fairly consistent. If it doesn't show north, it usually is showing south. Had a few other nick knacks attached to it, can opener and some other stuff.

Quoted the wrong post...I don't know who made this compass, but interesting you had the same experience. Probably static electricity.

This is good to know when shopping for compasses. The wrist watch trick is a good one, but, when you need a compass the most visibility is usually bad and it's hard to get a precise location of the sun.

Hitch
12th June 2015, 04:26 AM
Or it is your personality !


;)

Or, the ghost that likes to play pranks on me. ;)

Neuro
12th June 2015, 04:33 AM
Or, the ghost that likes to play pranks on me. ;)
Maybe you need reading glasses?