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Book has too much time on his hands. Must be a pretty sweet paycheck that the SPLC drops in Book's bank account.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD8mzZun5wo
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Jewboo
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
Excellent points being made and discussed in this thread. I really wish more people could see this.
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midnight rambler
He's retired on Social Security.
You're being ridiculous.
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Me and Jewboo want freedom as much as you do.
Highly unlikely. Both you and Book are good little obedient and compliant corporate slaves, your FAITH lies in THE STATE*. lol
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We just understand STRATEGY
Like I don't. lol It's apparent you're both clueless dumbshits (both of you being unwavering and unquestioningly obedient and compliant to your jooish corporate masters). lol
*either God is God or man is god, it's a daily choice
Choose this day whom ye shall serve. --Joshua 24:15
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Shami-Amourae
He's retired on Social Security.
You're being ridiculous.
SWEET!!! Entitlements AND a SPLC paycheck!!
And I'm the one being ridiculous. lol
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Originally Posted by
midnight rambler
Back on track.
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midnight rambler
How do you know that for sure??
Because there's never been any evidence for it and they don't want to incriminate themselves.
Regular cops hate the cameras since it forces them to follow the law.
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Shami-Amourae
Because there's never been any evidence for it and they don't want to incriminate themselves.
Regular cops hate the cameras since it forces them to follow the law.
So you don't know for sure. Got it.
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midnight rambler
SWEET!!! Entitlements AND a SPLC paycheck!!
And I'm the one being ridiculous. lol
Transfer payments will always exist in a world with automation and technology.
It's better he get it than some nigger.
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Originally Posted by
midnight rambler
So you don't know for sure. Got it.
No but it's unlikely.
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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Shami-Amourae
Transfer payments will always exist in a world with automation and technology.
It's better he get it than some nigger.
Apparently you don't get it - if someone is on the .gov teat then THEY ARE a nigger.
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Jewboo, I have not heard of a "federal probably cause arrest warrant" before. What is that? What I learned growing up (watching Perry Mason - ok, me and 100 million other americans got our legal education from ole Perry) was that a judge has to hear the rational from the sheriff (or one of his deputies), or, an official with the township police, as to the primae facae case against the target.
This is called a "warrant". But the phrase, "federal probable cause arrest warrant", it suggests to me that this is something less than an honest to goodness warrant (requiring evidence of a primae facae nature), and, I wonder does it even require review, agreement, and a signature by their county judge. Or does it merely need to be signed by a supervisor with the FBI or some official with whatever Fed group comes in guns-a-blazing?
This goes back to the original americans, fresh from winning freedom from a King of England who didn't feel like he needed to follow any rules at all, and, these victorious americans demanded a Bill of Rights, where they spelled out what it takes for anyone with the law to actually seek out someone and take them captive or search their person or property. I suspect that most of us americans still feel that way, and, it is looking like, in this case, we reverted back to King George's attitude that he, and his men, can just do as they please with all his subjects.
I'm waiting for this "federal probable cause arrest warrant" to be fully highlighted, explored, and thoroughly dissected to make sure they were following our most fundamental right (spelled out in the Bill of Rights) to free passage, absent a case having been made before a judge with jurisdiction that was sufficient to convict absent any defense ("primae facae").
I wonder if we'll ever get a thorough exposition of this "federal probable cause arrest warrant" (so-called).
And, what's more, how did these Feds figure out that the Sheriff (or his deputies) didn't need to be the one to serve this 'whatever it was' kind of a warrant?
Lets keep in mind that the mainstream news, along with practically every governmental body, is going to try to sweep the finer details here under the rug - just spit out some high-fluttin' sounding bullshit like "federal probable cause arrest warrant" and then stop listening to anybody's further questioning.
Such as, when was this special kind of warrant prepared and presented before which judge? (date and time and court).
What was the evidence and was it sufficient to convict absent a defense?
What crime was the subject charged with?
Was the subject informed, at any time, that he was being stopped so as to serve him with this 'who knows what kind of' warrant? Aren't all of us, even those who seem to be anti-government at times, awarded these procedures before resorting to deadly force?
The wording around this "warrant" (the word "probable") sounds a lot like they only had suspicions - not evidence, and, the've ginned up some King-George-like crap to get around what we demanded in the Bill of Rights. They were SUSPICIOUS of Finicum, or, maybe even, they just didn't like him because he wouldn't sit by and let some politician's son make out like a champ making special real estate deals against public lands. So they claim they had this non-warrant warrant and we just better shut up about it.
In any event, the overwhelmingly use of massive deadly force against folks who probably never were considered to be criminals, or anything near to it (by their own locals, who count as "peers"), is enough to cut deep into the hearts of most americans.
They think we are idiot children-like *subjects* that dare not question them when they get high on their horse and trumpet pronouncements. They got the guns - what we got?
This is wanton banditry - like Pancho Villa bothering to write up a quickie death warrant just before shooting someone dead as a doorknob.
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madfranks
Excellent points being made and discussed in this thread. I really wish more people could see this.
Not every day we get to watch hi res zoomed video of what actually happened. What a time to be alive.
Like it or hate it Youtube Video changed our world forever...
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midnight rambler
Apparently you don't get it - if someone is on the .gov teat then THEY ARE a nigger.
They're so tough
They like to make us feel little
They like to make us feel small
And keep us down
'Til we feel no good at all
Then they tell us that we're stupid
That we got no sense at all
They'll ke away the spark
Keep us in the dark
Make us feel we have no vision at all
CHORUS
No, no, no, I don't believe it has to be this way
No, I don't believe it has to be this way
Then they tell us to be patient
That our time will come
But I've stood outside their doors
And walked their floors
And I ain't gonna do it again
They'd like to make me their nigger
I say to hell with them
I'm not gettin' down on my knees
And beggin' please
Can you throw me a crumb now and then
CHORUS
I can't really speak for you
And I don't know about them
They must be out of their minds
Can't read between the lines
They can stick it where the sun don't shine
CHORUS
They're so tough
They are so tough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH_1846W36k
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midnight rambler
Apparently you don't get it - if someone is on the .gov teat then THEY ARE a nigger.
No not really.
It just means they aren't the bitch.
You either are signing your checks on the front, or on the back.
The ones who sign on the front are the chumps.
I'm a chump BTW.
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we get to watch hi res zoomed video of what actually happened.
Yeah, right.
"It's not a matter of what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true." --Henry Kissinger
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midnight rambler
Yeah, right.
"It's not a matter of what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true." --Henry Kissinger
He's right you know.
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Shami-Amourae
He's right you know.
Are you referring to Dr. Evil and his quote I cited?
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midnight rambler
Are you referring to Dr. Evil and his quote I cited?
Yes.
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Jerrylynnb
...I have not heard of a "federal probably cause arrest warrant" before...
It sounds like to me that these guys are federal officers, and believed they had probable cause, and thus they have an implicit "probable cause" warrant (i.e., the federal courts always have supported them in these cases, and thus they can expect support in the near future) to do what they deem proper. Those words caught my attention too, but now that you question it, it sounds like wordplay.
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JohnQPublic
It sounds like to me that these guys are federal officers, and believed they had probable cause, and thus they have an implicit "probable cause" warrant (i.e., the federal courts always have supported them in these cases, and thus they can expect support in the near future) to do what they deem proper. Those words caught my attention too, but now that you question it, it sounds like wordplay.
So that means they have a license to 'probable cause' the shit out of anyone at any time !
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Jerrylynnb
Jewboo, I have not heard of a "federal probably cause arrest warrant" before. What is that? What I learned growing up (watching Perry Mason - ok, me and 100 million other americans got our legal education from ole Perry) was that a judge has to hear the rational from the sheriff (or one of his deputies), or, an official with the township police, as to the primae facae case against the target. This is called a "warrant". But the phrase, "federal probable cause arrest warrant", it suggests to me that this is something less than an honest to goodness warrant (requiring evidence of a primae facae nature), and, I wonder does it even require review, agreement, and a signature by their county judge. Or does it merely need to be signed by a supervisor with the FBI or some official with whatever Fed group comes in guns-a-blazing?...
I'm a few years younger than you JL and we are both geezers on Social Security Retirement. 2016 is nothing like what we were taught to believe. Where to begin? Federal Reserve isn't federal and has no reserves. USA drones murder people from the sky without trial. IRS can instantly freeze our bank account on a whim. No limits on anonymous Congressional "contributions" according to the Supreme Court. Federal Debt Limit automatically raised now. Nobody voted for this. None of this is Constitutional and yet this is our Reality now.
Lobbyists literally write the legislation and our so-called "elected representatives" admit to not even being able to read them before signing. Only naive people still believe there is a Constitution and the Rule Of Law. I finally stopped being naive only a couple of years ago.
My takeaway from this Oregon thingie is that the FBI is even more capable then I imagined. Helicopters with zoom video cameras. Listening to every word spoken on cell phones. Must have been at least a hundred agents planning and manning that Oregon road trap. They even provided us public with a Youtube movie of how it went down.
Lesson learned: When a cop points a gun at you do exactly what they say. They have radios. They have backup. They can use a Drone and bomb you from the sky if need be.
The two Bundy boys peacefully surrendered, did not resist arrest, and are now sipping coffee with their lawyers...
:(??
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Why did he get out of the truck?
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Jewboo
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post813404
:rolleyes::rolleyes::cool:
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Jewboo
Helicopters with zoom video cameras.
What evidence do you have that a helicopter took the images and videos shown?
Are you sure that those images did not come from a satellite 150 miles above the surface of the earth?
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palani
What evidence do you have that a helicopter took the images and videos shown?
Are you sure that those images did not come from a satellite 150 miles above the surface of the earth?
That's possible, but it was implied. ImmaCanin said she black helicopters flying over her home, which is near where it happened.
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It does look more and more like Finicum was murdered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWXBITTC4fw
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Shami-Amourae
I never underestimate the ability of the government to lie then prove it.
Edit: if you look closely the zoomed in video clearly shows this guy was shot in the back
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Shami-Amourae
That's what the video looked like to me. I slowed it down, zoomed it in, and went back and forward with it. It does look like he's holding his side so I really do think he was holding his side due to a bullet wound. The autopsy report will say for sure.
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Ares
That's what the video looked like to me. I slowed it down, zoomed it in, and went back and forward with it. It does look like he's holding his side so I really do think he was holding his side due to a bullet wound. The autopsy report will say for sure.
You actually expect the autopsy to be in disagreement with the official story?
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Joshua01
You actually expect the autopsy to be in disagreement with the official story?
I don't have high hopes, I'm just hoping they'll record the bullet wounds. Since they were obviously the cause of death, I can hope they'll at least document them. :)
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I no longer have time to diasect anything, am holding trust in you.
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Shami-Amourae
Because there's never been any evidence for it and they don't want to incriminate themselves.
Regular cops hate the cameras since it forces them to follow the law.
Sorry to interrupt...cops love cameras actually. Cameras force the public to follow the law, actually. It keeps the public honest. You wouldn't believe the false accusations against cops. Unlawful accusations. Cameras keep things honest, they keep people from abusing and lying against cops.
But, if the media wants everyone to believe that cameras protect the public from cops, that's all good too. Believe what you want, or what you are told...lol. As long as the truth is clear, I'm all for it.
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Hitch
Sorry to interrupt...cops love cameras actually. Cameras force the public to follow the law, actually. It keeps the public honest. You wouldn't believe the false accusations against cops. Unlawful accusations. Cameras keep things honest, they keep people from abusing and lying against cops.
But, if the media wants everyone to believe that cameras protect the public from cops, that's all good too. Believe what you want, or what you are told...lol. As long as the truth is clear, I'm all for it.
Chicago police are destroying their own dashboard cameras
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/28/10...d-body-cameras
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Shami-Amourae
Well, Chicago police doesn't represent all police, or even a fraction of it. From the top down, Chicago is a complete mess.
All I know is every cop I know, or knew, is slammed with false accusations from bullshit, from complete turds in society....cameras are a godsend. Record it all. The more cameras that come out, the more BS you'll see that cops have to put up with.
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Idaho Three Percent president Brandon Curtiss was in Burns Friday. He says the group stands up for people's rights and told us KTVB he's in town to support the community. However, he says he doesn't support the takeover of the refuge, and wants it to end.
"We don't condone the taking of the refuge building at all from the start,” said Curtiss. “And you know I understand and I support the message Ammon Bundy was trying to put out and it's an important message that people need to learn, but with Ammon Bundy being arrested and all the other occupiers I think it's time for them to go home as well."
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/local/2016/01/29/residents-frustrated-ongoing-occupation/79541398/
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