150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

[midnight rambler]

Transfer payments will always exist in a world with automation and technology.

It's better he get it than some nigger.

Apparently you don't get it - if someone is on the .gov teat then THEY ARE a nigger.

[Jerrylynnb]

Jewboo, I have not heard of a "federal probably cause arrest warrant" before. What is that? What I learned growing up (watching Perry Mason - ok, me and 100 million other americans got our legal education from ole Perry) was that a judge has to hear the rational from the sheriff (or one of his deputies), or, an official with the township police, as to the primae facae case against the target.
This is called a "warrant". But the phrase, "federal probable cause arrest warrant", it suggests to me that this is something less than an honest to goodness warrant (requiring evidence of a primae facae nature), and, I wonder does it even require review, agreement, and a signature by their county judge. Or does it merely need to be signed by a supervisor with the FBI or some official with whatever Fed group comes in guns-a-blazing?

This goes back to the original americans, fresh from winning freedom from a King of England who didn't feel like he needed to follow any rules at all, and, these victorious americans demanded a Bill of Rights, where they spelled out what it takes for anyone with the law to actually seek out someone and take them captive or search their person or property. I suspect that most of us americans still feel that way, and, it is looking like, in this case, we reverted back to King George's attitude that he, and his men, can just do as they please with all his subjects.

I'm waiting for this "federal probable cause arrest warrant" to be fully highlighted, explored, and thoroughly dissected to make sure they were following our most fundamental right (spelled out in the Bill of Rights) to free passage, absent a case having been made before a judge with jurisdiction that was sufficient to convict absent any defense ("primae facae").

I wonder if we'll ever get a thorough exposition of this "federal probable cause arrest warrant" (so-called).

And, what's more, how did these Feds figure out that the Sheriff (or his deputies) didn't need to be the one to serve this 'whatever it was' kind of a warrant?

Lets keep in mind that the mainstream news, along with practically every governmental body, is going to try to sweep the finer details here under the rug - just spit out some high-fluttin' sounding bullshit like "federal probable cause arrest warrant" and then stop listening to anybody's further questioning.

Such as, when was this special kind of warrant prepared and presented before which judge? (date and time and court).
What was the evidence and was it sufficient to convict absent a defense?
What crime was the subject charged with?
Was the subject informed, at any time, that he was being stopped so as to serve him with this 'who knows what kind of' warrant? Aren't all of us, even those who seem to be anti-government at times, awarded these procedures before resorting to deadly force?

The wording around this "warrant" (the word "probable") sounds a lot like they only had suspicions - not evidence, and, the've ginned up some King-George-like crap to get around what we demanded in the Bill of Rights. They were SUSPICIOUS of Finicum, or, maybe even, they just didn't like him because he wouldn't sit by and let some politician's son make out like a champ making special real estate deals against public lands. So they claim they had this non-warrant warrant and we just better shut up about it.

In any event, the overwhelmingly use of massive deadly force against folks who probably never were considered to be criminals, or anything near to it (by their own locals, who count as "peers"), is enough to cut deep into the hearts of most americans.

They think we are idiot children-like *subjects* that dare not question them when they get high on their horse and trumpet pronouncements. They got the guns - what we got?

This is wanton banditry - like Pancho Villa bothering to write up a quickie death warrant just before shooting someone dead as a doorknob.

[Jewboo]

Excellent points being made and discussed in this thread. I really wish more people could see this.

Not every day we get to watch hi res zoomed video of what actually happened. What a time to be alive.

Like it or hate it Youtube Video changed our world forever...

[midnight rambler]

Apparently you don't get it - if someone is on the .gov teat then THEY ARE a nigger.

They're so tough
They like to make us feel little
They like to make us feel small
And keep us down
'Til we feel no good at all
Then they tell us that we're stupid
That we got no sense at all
They'll ke away the spark
Keep us in the dark
Make us feel we have no vision at all
CHORUS
No, no, no, I don't believe it has to be this way
No, I don't believe it has to be this way
Then they tell us to be patient
That our time will come
But I've stood outside their doors
And walked their floors
And I ain't gonna do it again
They'd like to make me their nigger
I say to hell with them
I'm not gettin' down on my knees
And beggin' please
Can you throw me a crumb now and then
CHORUS
I can't really speak for you
And I don't know about them
They must be out of their minds
Can't read between the lines
They can stick it where the sun don't shine
CHORUS
They're so tough
They are so tough

[Shami-Amourae]

Apparently you don't get it - if someone is on the .gov teat then THEY ARE a nigger.

No not really.

It just means they aren't the bitch.

You either are signing your checks on the front, or on the back.

The ones who sign on the front are the chumps.

I'm a chump BTW.

[midnight rambler]

we get to watch hi res zoomed video of what actually happened.

Yeah, right.

"It's not a matter of what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true." --Henry Kissinger

[Shami-Amourae]

Yeah, right.

"It's not a matter of what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true." --Henry Kissinger

He's right you know.

[midnight rambler]

He's right you know.

Are you referring to Dr. Evil and his quote I cited?

[Shami-Amourae]

Are you referring to Dr. Evil and his quote I cited?

Yes.

[JohnQPublic]

...I have not heard of a "federal probably cause arrest warrant" before...

It sounds like to me that these guys are federal officers, and believed they had probable cause, and thus they have an implicit "probable cause" warrant (i.e., the federal courts always have supported them in these cases, and thus they can expect support in the near future) to do what they deem proper. Those words caught my attention too, but now that you question it, it sounds like wordplay.