Re: Do You Think Ron Paul Has A Chance?
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AndreaGail
haha i like that analogy
Thanks.
Whenever anyone else wants to run too, they start playin' "hide the baton", instead.
Re: Do You Think Ron Paul Has A Chance?
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LuckyStrike
The conspiracy theorist side of me thinks this.
That they are clearing a way for RP, first it was Bachmann, then Perry, then Cain, then Gingrich who just had an absolute metoric rise (due 100% to the media of course) and then fell like dominoes for reasons that TPTB could easily have made go away. My thought process is this, we are in for a world of hurt and I think we can all agree on that, the day of reckoning is coming, maybe we can emerge from it maybe it sends us into SHTF but regardless a storm is coming so when the house of cards collapses who do they want in the drivers seat? Who do they want as the scape goat? Someone who is a carbon copy of every president in the last century or a strict constructionist free market sound money anti Fed person? I'd be very surprised if we didn't have a shock at least as big as 08 during the next 4 years and if Ron Paul was at the helm the media would just lambast him on a continual basis, sure many of their plans would be put on hold for invading this country and that, but after his first term they could have cemented in the minds of the masses that central planning is good and free markets cause catastrophic failure. It would be taught in history books for the next 100 years as a "see we tried the free markets and things came unglued"
You have to understand people who seek world domination have decade long plans, if they have to put a few things on hold for 4 years and then their life will be easier the next 40 it will be worth it. The last thing they want is RP to be remembered fondly and his following to continue to grow. An idea whose time has come is impossible to stop and they know it, so they must kill the idea of freedom.
I'm not saying I totally believe that scenario but I think it is plausible and may be a contingency for them.
Any thoughts on that?
That's what I said awhile back, that he could easily come to be portrayed as the "new" Herbert Hoover and actually end up being the PTB "transition guy" in order to get the people to give up the old Constitution for something more modern.
The people must be shown that while it was a good idea in principle, it is no longer workable.
ie brought to their knees.
Re: Do You Think Ron Paul Has A Chance?
A while back about 6mos ago or so, I would've said yea, he has a chance, but seeing these new moves by Bachman &cain and the others being backed by the big political machines, I'm going to say no. Even if he gets a good voter turn out what keeps them from falsifying correct numbers? Really, think about it.
Re: Do You Think Ron Paul Has A Chance?
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what keeps them from falsifying correct numbers? Really, think about it.
imo, the only thing that overcomes the cooked numbers via the crooked voting machines is obviously huge popular support (aka 'critical mass') which so far has been contained quite well.
Re: Do You Think Ron Paul Has A Chance?
Re: Do You Think Ron Paul Has A Chance?
Yeah, I think there's a shot that it can be done, now that's not to say there aren't multiple barriers and mine fields that lie in wait or as LS said above it's one of TPTB's contingencies. I also believe massive Ron Paul voter turnout negates the ability of Diebold to rig the election, though maybe I underestimate that? Something I found quite heartening this weekend..was Ron Pauls appearance on the Leno show, look at that reaction by the crowd! think of how many millions of people saw and heard his message and and the crowds applause, some for probably the 1st time! To top it off, that was in Cali and/or there was a mixed audience from around the country. ( I'm hoping the RP camp didn't bus in them in). But the Leno show bodes well and could pay off huge.
Re: Do You Think Ron Paul Has A Chance?
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LuckyStrike
My thought process is this, we are in for a world of hurt and I think we can all agree on that, the day of reckoning is coming, maybe we can emerge from it maybe it sends us into SHTF but regardless a storm is coming so when the house of cards collapses who do they want in the drivers seat? Who do they want as the scape goat? Someone who is a carbon copy of every president in the last century or a strict constructionist free market sound money anti Fed person? I'd be very surprised if we didn't have a shock at least as big as 08 during the next 4 years and if Ron Paul was at the helm the media would just lambast him on a continual basis, sure many of their plans would be put on hold for invading this country and that, but after his first term they could have cemented in the minds of the masses that central planning is good and free markets cause catastrophic failure. It would be taught in history books for the next 100 years as a "see we tried the free markets and things came unglued"
Wow, I never even thought about that. Reminds me of how, when Andrew Jackson started removing deposits from the Bank of the United States, the bankers and the Congress made a big deal out of it, whipping up public anger towards him for "destabilizing" the economy. Congress officially censured him and it was only because the media wasn't so centrally controlled that the truth actually spread and when the people learned the truth about the bank and the fiat money they issued, they backed the president in the dismantling of the Bank. The masses are so largely brainwashed today that I can't see that happening again, although I'd like to be wrong.
Re: Do You Think Ron Paul Has A Chance?
The Republican's current strategy seems to be cycling through the worst of candidates to enable another Obama win.
If Independents rose up and demanded Paul as a candidate, they could possibly flatten both parties.
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Horn
The Republican's current strategy seems to be cycling through the worst of candidates to enable another Obama win.
If Independents rose up and demanded Paul as a candidate, they could possibly flatten both parties.
Strategy ?
They have no frigging strategy, other than being complete Idiots, if you want to call that a strategy!
Re: Do You Think Ron Paul Has A Chance?
no. the media want romney or newt. it's better tv than a guy who just reads some old document.