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I think the election of Trump was a September 11 event for Democrat voters. The angst, tears and Oh My God's are on par with that day. The trauma is so deep that these people have been mentally broken leaving them open to MK Ultra type influences.
I strongly suspect this play is a 2 part-er. Act I is in play. Act II is yet to come.
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Originally Posted by Spectrism
The Devil and his children will be defeated only by Jesus Christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Trump has been erected as a false "Christ." A "redeemer" to "make America great again."
Trump being an "outsider" is an imagination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
couldnt verify this with other sources but may be zionist propaganda and to coerce trump into supporting the palestinian genocide
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Trump: Israel is a ray of hope to the world
nov 18
President-elect declares in first message to Jewish state that he 'loves Israel and its citizens,' calling Israel a 'ray of hope
‘Just two days after his stunning election victory, President-elect Donald Trump delivered a message to Israel, describing his personal affection for the Jewish state and hopes that his administration will be able to strengthen ties strained by eight years of tense relations between Israel and the Obama administration.
Calling Israel a “ray of hope,” Trump released the statement to the Israel HaYom newspaper, which is owned by prominent Jewish Republican donor, Sheldon Adelson. Adelson backed Trump in this year’s election towards the end of the race, giving tens of millions of dollars to the Trump campaign and pro-Trump political action committees.
“I love and respect Israel and its citizens,” wrote Trump. “Israel and the US share so many common values, like free speech, freedom of worship, and the special emphasis on creating opportunities for all citizens to fulfill their dreams.”’
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/220152
If you believe this, why do you constantly wage war against who you think they are? I will tell you why. Because you are woefully missing many pieces of the puzzle. You stab one direction, and then the other. You play as a one-man army and anyone around you is at risk. You lack self-control, discernment, kindness, and a love for the truth. Oh, your mind races at this moment denying those words, but self-delusion elevates your imaginations above truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by crimethink
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the Word of their testimony. And they did not love their soul even until death.
The enemy is already defeated and now it is our place to proclaim this truth.
So by your reasoning, anyone who steps forward to do good things should be stabbed in the back as a devil because anyone who seems to be good cannot be anything but a false Christ. Your defeatist attitude is just plain stupid.Quote:
Trump has been erected as a false "Christ." A "redeemer" to "make America great again."
Trump being an "outsider" is an imagination.
dont know but when I think of trump past achievements, I think of (ayn) Randian extreme capitalism
We are to proclaim the Truth until He returns. The Truth to them is like silver to a vampire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
There's the "Spectrism has 'special revelation'" thing again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Spectrism is a false prophet, and has the chutzpah to claim I am the one lacking. You have repeatedly lashed out at others (including me), refuse to see that Trump is a charlatan (lack of discernment), fail to extend the kindness you claim to embrace, and routinely distort and make shit up to "fit" what you pretend to "know."Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
As I noted previously, you are an aficionado of Talmudvision, and compare its current villains to real life. So much for you eschewing self-delusion.
If "the enemy is already defeated," Mystery Babylon would never have arisen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
No, instead, Calvary was a promise that the Devil can never ultimately win. Yet he tries anyway. "Make the World Great Again."
No, you have set up Trump as an idol and false messiah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
We have yet to see any "good things" he has done. Then again, you consider worldly things to be "good things." Perhaps appointing phony "patriot" and Zionist Bannon is a "good thing" for you?
That's the line of Satan, telling his minions that "God cannot surely win."Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Fool Spectrism fives times, and he "sees the light."
Love of money is Trump's defining "accomplishment."Quote:
Originally Posted by singular_me
Spectrism appears to be an adherent of "prosperity gospel," that God rewards those with worldly riches who allegedly "do His will," despite everything Christ and Paul said.
It is easier for Trump to pass into the Oval Office, than for Spectrism to accept all the facts of the Gospel.
I agree, we need to hold Trump to his promises. But we also have to give him a chance. There is a lot of disinfo on both sides, and it needs to be studied, because it is a clue to what all parties are up to.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
Libel continues to spew from your posts. Name even one of "the facts of the Gospel" that I deny.Quote:
Originally Posted by crimethink
See many vampires, do you? Just where are you spewing this "silver"? All I ever see from you are attacks against the brethren. Cozy up to goldissima as you both are grand delusionists.Quote:
Originally Posted by crimethink
It is not so much what I see, but WHO I know and WHO knows me.Quote:
There's the "Spectrism has 'special revelation'" thing again.
I do lash out at those who are vipers and white-washed sepulchers. I show anger toward those who should know better, and do know better, yet continue on along lost paths with self-blinding resolutions in their hearts. At some point I cut them loose for their choices and fend off their scurrilous rants.Quote:
Spectrism is a false prophet, and has the chutzpah to claim I am the one lacking. You have repeatedly lashed out at others (including me),
You have no idea what I see. So let's visit what YOU see. Where has Trump defrauded the American people this year? Where has Trump failed to keep his promises?Quote:
refuse to see that Trump is a charlatan (lack of discernment),
You have been offered much. You poison the well with your over-fowing bitterness. You harbor evil and unforgiveness which eats you up inside. You make all an enemy as if driven by fear.Quote:
fail to extend the kindness you claim to embrace,
You still haven't provided a single thing. Unsupported slanders are like building a house on a sandy shore.Quote:
and routinely distort and make shit up to "fit" what you pretend to "know."
I must have missed that fine post of yours. Show me where that one is and I will be glad to reply. You keep accusing me of loving or being controlled by the Talmud. You are sewing the snares around yourself. You who thinks he is dousing vampires with the slick oily silver from your mouth, making such rich accusations.Quote:
As I noted previously, you are an aficionado of Talmudvision, and compare its current villains to real life. So much for you eschewing self-delusion.
History and time play out for mankind. We are in this time bubble and the sin nature is trapped in mortality. But those He foreknew from the foundations of the earth are those He has washed in His blood with the only power to remove sin from the soul that it might live forever. Messiah has done this already, providing us the victory, to all who would accept it. Show me where the Talmud says this.Quote:
If "the enemy is already defeated," Mystery Babylon would never have arisen.
Messiah won the earthly kingdom for all the children of Adam who would be lovers of the truth and accept the victory. He remains away until the fullness of those being saved is complete, just as the farmer leaves his crops growing in the field until the harvest.Quote:
No, instead, Calvary was a promise that the Devil can never ultimately win. Yet he tries anyway. "Make the World Great Again."
And you are a blatant liar.Quote:
No, you have set up Trump as an idol and false messiah.
He has not taken office yet. And here you are, decrying him worse than any rant you ever raised against Obama or Clinton. Something wrong with this picture. You cannot wait to find or imagine anything horrible about Trump. You had two choices: Hillary Clinton or Trump. That was too tough a decision for you.Quote:
We have yet to see any "good things" he has done. Then again, you consider worldly things to be "good things." Perhaps appointing phony "patriot" and Zionist Bannon is a "good thing" for you?
And it is YOUR line.... the defeatist claiming that there is no winning for those who are followers of Messiah.Quote:
That's the line of Satan, telling his minions that "God cannot surely win."
Let's see who the fool is. I chose:Quote:
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Fool Spectrism fives times, and he "sees the light."
secure borders
end to taxpayer funded abortion
end to illegal aliens and sanctuary cities paying them to be criminals
end to government waste of tax money
reduced taxes
trade protection in a hostile world
protection of Christian rights
protection of constitution and the rights of men
enforcement of the rule of law for all, not just against the little people
My choice is to make America a safe place for worshiping God and being free to spread the gospel of salvation domestically and abroad.
Hillary Clinton promised to do the opposite of all these. And you could not get off your sorry ass to fight against Clinton's demonic plans.
One thing FOR SURE - the people were moved by the Spirit to get out and vote for the man, at least enough support to overcome all the dead people voting, illegals voting, vote count fraud, vote fraud in general, repeat voters being bused around, the joosmedia in 120% support of Queen Jezebel, etc., etc. That alone speaks volumes and SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT to at least give the man a chance.
When queen Jezebel ran against Bernie, she started with 500 super delegates in her favor. Running against Trump we now know she had at least 3 million votes cheated. We have no idea how many she actually cheated, and she was mightily shocked when that was not enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
You are right. There was a move that aroused the sleeping people to fight for their rights and choose on which side they would stand. This battle was not about who would win, but who would be on the side of the winner. As I have said a few times before, Trump is being used as JUDGMENT. He is the rock in the road that makes people go left or right and show their colors. Those who try to run him down have serious crashes. Watch them fall.
What "brethren"? Satanists? Lovers of money? Those who love the world in general?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Goldissima is a good Samaritan. Confused on ideology, but mostly right in the heart. I'd trust her to help me on a lonely road more than I'd trust you to not drive on by..."he's not a brother, it's God's will he is screwed."Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Benjamin Netanyahu?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Actually, you do the work of the world, and condemn anyone who dares tell you you are not serving the real Christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Reince Priebus. "The Clintons are good people." It goes on, but even one of them is enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
LOL. Look in the mirror.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
You think and speak like Bill Clinton. Denying that which everyone can see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
You always use the term "Messiah" with an article ("the") like a Jew, and, to my knowledge, rarely, if ever, use Christ. Are you ashamed of the name of Jesus Christ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Christ warned us that Christians will not be loved by the world, not have an earthly Kingdom prior to His second Advent, and be persecuted. You preach the opposite, a form of "prosperity gospel." That we can vote our own prosperity.
LOL. You refer to Trump as "Father's anointed," or, in the original, "Father's 'christ'" or "Father's 'messiah'." To simplify: Trump is an "anti-Christ" (in place of Christ, a replacement Christ).Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
LOL. The son of his father the Devil calls me a "blatant liar" above, despite the fact I did not lie, and then spews out this insane whopper here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Trump claimed to be different, claimed he would "drain the swamp," but already refilled it with Reince Priebus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Obama and Hillary Clinton are the true irredeemables, "human" scum that Jefferson spoke of, in relation to a certain tree.
Spectrism the man of this world insists only two "choices." The third choice is what I took: refuse to play Mystery Babylon's game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Satan told those who would listen there is victory outside of Christ. So you voted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
You placed your faith in a man. A man you blasphemously claim is a "messiah" ("Father's anointed").Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Trump has made clear his lot in this world is with those of the world, including the Talmud Jews such as his "good friend" Netanyahu and "the good people (sic) of 'Israel' (sic)."Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
You think voting in Mystery Babylon's sinister game is, somehow, "doing God's work." Yet Paul told us:
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
As Trump is a lover of money, he is no instrument of God deserving of my support. Should he show the signs of being under actual influence of the Holy Spirit, I will be pleased and humbled to immediately reverse my course. But not until then.
It is borderline blasphemy to claim the Holy Spirit "moved people" to participate in the god of this world's sinister game - voting.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
Countless men (and some women) of the demonic nature have enjoyed popular support. Trump is obligated to prove himself, considering his past & present failings. So far, the bad fruit he's brought forth indicates he's no friend of God.
If God's Spirit had interest in moving people toward voting, Darrell Castle would have won in a landslide. You know, Darrell, right, the only man in the race to actually proclaim the blessings of JESUS CHRIST?
Get a grip Fred.
God either made it happen or allowed it to happen ('it' being Trump becoming president elect). We will know soon enough what kind of judgment is coming our way for this country having turned away from God.
You two are both arguing one of two things:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
1) God is not Almighty, and was unable to bring the only man to proclaim the blessings of Jesus Christ in the race to victory;
or
2) you are alleging Darrell Castle is just as much a liar and man of the world as Donald Trump.
Which is it?
I will agree with you: Trump may very well be being used by Yahweh for "judgement," but it's not the judgement that you have in mind. The same judgement that every wicked and powerful ruler has inflicted on wicked peoples. If so, Trump's win may turn from "Thank God" to "God Help Us!" within months. His further cabinet appointments will show us.
We agree. The "judgement" may not be the one Spectrism is insisting "Father's anointed" Donald Christ will bring.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
Give him a chance to prove himself. Don't prejudge.Quote:
Originally Posted by crimethink
Time will take care of itself so just leave time alone. --Willie
The Holiday season must be here, it brings out the worst in some people. Everything is going to be fine...I hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
don't forget the jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
lets also not forget that time is running out
How much time do we have left? months, or years?Quote:
Originally Posted by singular_me
Time is an illusion that keeps us from seeing that everything happens all at once.Quote:
Originally Posted by singular_me
I'm not "prejudging." I am judging by what he has done and already done now. Like I said elsewhere, if he appoints Clarke for DHS Secretary, he'll get some more leeway from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
Total confidence there. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EE_
Freddy, Freddy, Freddy.... my have you really gone nutz.
Sure is saddening to see you go off the deep end without knowing how to swim.Quote:
Originally Posted by crimethink
The one most "out there" is your most trusted friend. You slip more each day. Tough road ahead for you. You are going the wrong way.Quote:
Goldissima is a good Samaritan. Confused on ideology, but mostly right in the heart. I'd trust her to help me on a lonely road more than I'd trust you to not drive on by..."he's not a brother, it's God's will he is screwed."
You continue to attempt a slander against me and think this is clever. I have made it clear many times before that this world is evil and ALL governments are evil. Inspite of that we make the best we can of it and rejoice when a government allows certain freedoms and rights.Quote:
Benjamin Netanyahu?
So nice of you to tell me that.Quote:
Actually, you do the work of the world, and condemn anyone who dares tell you you are not serving the real Christ.
So Trump "fills the swamp" with one little guy? You are really much too fearful.Quote:
Reince Priebus. "The Clintons are good people." It goes on, but even one of them is enough.
Sure, If you say so, so it must be.Quote:
You think and speak like Bill Clinton. Denying that which everyone can see.
Messiah was never called Jesus. There was no "J" in hebrew or aramaic. His name was Yahshuah or even Yahuahshuah. Just like Joshua... but no J. Iesus was a greek contrivance and oddly enough, much like ee-ay- Zeus, and another constenuation from "isa". I am not hooked on the false name, nor am I on a mission to obliterate it.Quote:
You always use the term "Messiah" with an article ("the") like a Jew, and, to my knowledge, rarely, if ever, use Christ. Are you ashamed of the name of Jesus Christ?
The same for "Christ". It is nothing like the Hebrew form of Maschiach.
No, there is nothing that I have said that even vaguely comes close to a "prosperity gospel". Are you drinking or doing drugs? I would prefer that rather than you being a blatant liar.Quote:
Christ warned us that Christians will not be loved by the world, not have an earthly Kingdom prior to His second Advent, and be persecuted. You preach the opposite, a form of "prosperity gospel." That we can vote our own prosperity.
Voting for elected officials is the norm in America. We even vote for things in offices where we work, teams we play on, parties we attend, friends that we make decisions with. So on the basis of me voting for elected officials, you have surmised that I preach a prosperity gospel. You are an absolute jerk.
I addressed this in the other thread. I am the Father's anointed and I do not claim to be Messiah. Your ignorance is blistering. Your blathering incessant.Quote:
LOL. You refer to Trump as "Father's anointed," or, in the original, "Father's 'christ'" or "Father's 'messiah'." To simplify: Trump is an "anti-Christ" (in place of Christ, a replacement Christ).
But since we are on the topic, it is possible for Trump to be anointed to a Cyrus role.
You can slander Messiah and still walk away. But when you slander His Spirit, you are toast.Quote:
LOL. The son of his father the Devil calls me a "blatant liar" above, despite the fact I did not lie, and then spews out this insane whopper here.
Trump is not even in office yet. And you dare claim rights to proffer your "wisdom" about one man refilling the swamp.Quote:
Trump claimed to be different, claimed he would "drain the swamp," but already refilled it with Reince Priebus.
So, did you vote for your third choice?Quote:
Spectrism the man of this world insists only two "choices." The third choice is what I took: refuse to play Mystery Babylon's game.
When I decide to buy a cup of coffee, it is not because satan told me there is victory in the coffee. When I pick a certain activity, it is not because satan said there is victory in that choice. It is a simple choice of who would best serve the country. That's all.Quote:
Satan told those who would listen there is victory outside of Christ. So you voted.
You repeat stupid lies in your head so often, you are sure you are right.Quote:
You placed your faith in a man. A man you blasphemously claim is a "messiah" ("Father's anointed").
You don't wrestle with anything except your own delusions.... and they are winning.Quote:
Trump has made clear his lot in this world is with those of the world, including the Talmud Jews such as his "good friend" Netanyahu and "the good people (sic) of 'Israel' (sic)."
You think voting in Mystery Babylon's sinister game is, somehow, "doing God's work." Yet Paul told us:
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
You are a loser and a stupid ass. Trump does not want your support, nor do I. You can take your worthless support and stuff it in your safe place.Quote:
As Trump is a lover of money, he is no instrument of God deserving of my support. Should he show the signs of being under actual influence of the Holy Spirit, I will be pleased and humbled to immediately reverse my course. But not until then.
Well, did you go fill out the form seeking input on Cabinet posts? I submitted Sheriff David Clarke for DHS.Quote:
Originally Posted by crimethink
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...inet-positions
ahaha, I agree but even so, trump (or any politicians) do(es)nt look good at all then.
corbett: real revolution is already taking place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyPxOqlOHIw
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Originally Posted by midnight rambler
in 6 months from now, we wont have to guess anymore... trump will have shown his true colors, but if he doesnt hold his promises, that most likely was the last US elections
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Originally Posted by EE_
His Chief of Staff - gateway to the President - is "one little guy." And you call me crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
God chose for the New Testament to be revealed to most of the world in Koine Greek. "Iēsous Christos" - and its variants - are how Jesus Christ was revealed to most of Christendom. You claim to be "anointed" by God, yet fail to acknowledge (understand?) this fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
No Goy habitually uses "Messiah" without the article "the." You inadvertently reveal yourself as a Judaizer. Judeo-"Christianity" is what you preach. Shul is where you were first taught.
You proclaim that we can "vote" ourselves prosperity with Trump. Or do you claim Trump is a liar when he says he will "Make America Great Again"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
"Anointed" to do what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
You claim to speak for the Spirit, not I. You preach demonstrable falsehoods, while claiming to be "anointed." So, let's apply logic: who is more likely to be guilty of blasphemy against the Spirit? (never mind I would never wish you would commit that grave sin, for your own sake)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
Of course!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
"Father's anointed" speaks! LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
I notice you don't call yourself "Yahweh's anointed." For, as we both know, there are many fathers, and two warring Fathers in the Bible. One of Heaven, one of lies.
I don't subscribe to spam lists.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
Trumps true colour is purple. I should add, when he's not being orange.Quote:
Originally Posted by singular_me
How do you know for sure it's a spam list*?Quote:
Originally Posted by crimethink
*and if it were a 'spam list' I'm fairly confident one could unsubscribe
Once the RNC has your email address, you can never escape. "Paid for by the Republican National Committee."Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
Fred has proven to be a total fail... Not worth blocking because I do get an LOL out of watching his lame posts.
What's it like going through life, having no identity of your own, having to latch on to the latest celebrity to give you a reason for living?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post870560
No. Messiah was known by His disciples as Yahshuah. They spoke aramaic and then many languages in spreading the gospel. The greek we have now came from latin. We have no original transcripts of the letters that were accepted as part of God's canon. The scriptures- the true scriptures, were inspired and led by the Spirit. The canonization process was not. Likewise, many translations and commentaries were not inspired by the Spirit of God.Quote:
Originally Posted by crimethink
Just as YHWH was removed from the scriptures, so also were other names tampered with. The Roman church is the 4th beast and you will see its signature domes around the world, including Jerusalem- dome of the rock, White House, Vatican.
No. I hold that we can vote our representatives and president. Choosing the best in my opinion is to choose the one who follows the law of the land under God's authority. There is nothing wrong with a president working to make the country great again. If that means more freedom under the law and less oppression against the christians, gun owners, law abiding citizens of any sort, and less evil in the news media, then he is working in the right direction.Quote:
You proclaim that we can "vote" ourselves prosperity with Trump. Or do you claim Trump is a liar when he says he will "Make America Great Again"?
Have you been sleeping all this time Fred?Quote:
"Anointed" to do what?
You are not paying attention Fred. Marching through a minefield with your fingers in your ears won't really help you.Quote:
You claim to speak for the Spirit, not I. You preach demonstrable falsehoods, while claiming to be "anointed." So, let's apply logic: who is more likely to be guilty of blasphemy against the Spirit? (never mind I would never wish you would commit that grave sin, for your own sake)
My time and patience with you is about over Fred.Quote:
"Father's anointed" speaks! LOL
In which bible did you see the name "Yahweh"?Quote:
I notice you don't call yourself "Yahweh's anointed." For, as we both know, there are many fathers, and two warring Fathers in the Bible. One of Heaven, one of lies.
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Originally Posted by crimethink
Bears worth repeating:
Fuck off...Quote:
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Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrism
In which Bible did you see the name "Yahshuah"?
After Trump, which celebrity will you have a crush on to give your life meaning?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2