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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    I think the election of Trump was a September 11 event for Democrat voters. The angst, tears and Oh My God's are on par with that day. The trauma is so deep that these people have been mentally broken leaving them open to MK Ultra type influences.

    I strongly suspect this play is a 2 part-er. Act I is in play. Act II is yet to come.
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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrism View Post
    The worst is to surrender to imaginations
    ^ This...
    Jackie did it and you know it!

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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrism View Post
    Yeah, those almighty jews are unstoppable, unbeatable, all-knowing, all-controlling. Y'all best just surrender to them because they are giants and we are just like fleas to them.
    The Devil and his children will be defeated only by Jesus Christ.

    Trump has been erected as a false "Christ." A "redeemer" to "make America great again."


    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrism View Post
    The worst is to surrender to imaginations.
    Trump being an "outsider" is an imagination.
    The night has come upon us, and we have but two choices: to fear it, or to face it bravely while looking to the Light that cannot be overcome. John 8:12

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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    couldnt verify this with other sources but may be zionist propaganda and to coerce trump into supporting the palestinian genocide
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    Trump: Israel is a ray of hope to the world
    nov 18
    President-elect declares in first message to Jewish state that he 'loves Israel and its citizens,' calling Israel a 'ray of hope


    ‘Just two days after his stunning election victory, President-elect Donald Trump delivered a message to Israel, describing his personal affection for the Jewish state and hopes that his administration will be able to strengthen ties strained by eight years of tense relations between Israel and the Obama administration.

    Calling Israel a “ray of hope,” Trump released the statement to the Israel HaYom newspaper, which is owned by prominent Jewish Republican donor, Sheldon Adelson. Adelson backed Trump in this year’s election towards the end of the race, giving tens of millions of dollars to the Trump campaign and pro-Trump political action committees.

    “I love and respect Israel and its citizens,” wrote Trump. “Israel and the US share so many common values, like free speech, freedom of worship, and the special emphasis on creating opportunities for all citizens to fulfill their dreams.”’


    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/220152
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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    Quote Originally Posted by crimethink View Post
    The Devil and his children will be defeated only by Jesus Christ.
    If you believe this, why do you constantly wage war against who you think they are? I will tell you why. Because you are woefully missing many pieces of the puzzle. You stab one direction, and then the other. You play as a one-man army and anyone around you is at risk. You lack self-control, discernment, kindness, and a love for the truth. Oh, your mind races at this moment denying those words, but self-delusion elevates your imaginations above truth.

    Rev 12:11 And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the Word of their testimony. And they did not love their soul even until death.

    The enemy is already defeated and now it is our place to proclaim this truth.


    Trump has been erected as a false "Christ." A "redeemer" to "make America great again."
    Trump being an "outsider" is an imagination.
    So by your reasoning, anyone who steps forward to do good things should be stabbed in the back as a devil because anyone who seems to be good cannot be anything but a false Christ. Your defeatist attitude is just plain stupid.
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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    dont know but when I think of trump past achievements, I think of (ayn) Randian extreme capitalism
    All the money that exists cannot buy Earth, and the evidence is that we destroy our habitat as a result, thinking that we can just seize and pillage as we see fit. If crowds endorse the pursuit of wealth at their own level, they cannot prevent multinationals from doing exactly the same. The “dystopian endless growth paradigm” is going to end with a bang but will open the door to a premise endorsing that Earth is the only wealth we truly have while journeying through life.

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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrism View Post
    If you believe this, why do you constantly wage war against who you think they are?
    We are to proclaim the Truth until He returns. The Truth to them is like silver to a vampire.


    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrism View Post
    Because you are woefully missing many pieces of the puzzle.
    There's the "Spectrism has 'special revelation'" thing again.


    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrism View Post
    You play as a one-man army and anyone around you is at risk. You lack self-control, discernment, kindness, and a love for the truth. Oh, your mind races at this moment denying those words, but self-delusion elevates your imaginations above truth.
    Spectrism is a false prophet, and has the chutzpah to claim I am the one lacking. You have repeatedly lashed out at others (including me), refuse to see that Trump is a charlatan (lack of discernment), fail to extend the kindness you claim to embrace, and routinely distort and make shit up to "fit" what you pretend to "know."

    As I noted previously, you are an aficionado of Talmudvision, and compare its current villains to real life. So much for you eschewing self-delusion.


    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrism View Post
    Rev 12:11 And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the Word of their testimony. And they did not love their soul even until death.

    The enemy is already defeated and now it is our place to proclaim this truth.
    If "the enemy is already defeated," Mystery Babylon would never have arisen.

    No, instead, Calvary was a promise that the Devil can never ultimately win. Yet he tries anyway. "Make the World Great Again."


    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrism View Post
    So by your reasoning, anyone who steps forward to do good things should be stabbed in the back as a devil because anyone who seems to be good cannot be anything but a false Christ.
    No, you have set up Trump as an idol and false messiah.

    We have yet to see any "good things" he has done. Then again, you consider worldly things to be "good things." Perhaps appointing phony "patriot" and Zionist Bannon is a "good thing" for you?


    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrism View Post
    Your defeatist attitude is just plain stupid.
    That's the line of Satan, telling his minions that "God cannot surely win."

    Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Fool Spectrism fives times, and he "sees the light."
    The night has come upon us, and we have but two choices: to fear it, or to face it bravely while looking to the Light that cannot be overcome. John 8:12

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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    Quote Originally Posted by singular_me View Post
    dont know but when I think of trump past achievements, I think of (ayn) Randian extreme capitalism
    Love of money is Trump's defining "accomplishment."

    Spectrism appears to be an adherent of "prosperity gospel," that God rewards those with worldly riches who allegedly "do His will," despite everything Christ and Paul said.

    It is easier for Trump to pass into the Oval Office, than for Spectrism to accept all the facts of the Gospel.
    The night has come upon us, and we have but two choices: to fear it, or to face it bravely while looking to the Light that cannot be overcome. John 8:12

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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    Gotta allow for the possibility that we've been duped.
    I agree, we need to hold Trump to his promises. But we also have to give him a chance. There is a lot of disinfo on both sides, and it needs to be studied, because it is a clue to what all parties are up to.
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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    Quote Originally Posted by crimethink View Post
    Love of money is Trump's defining "accomplishment."

    Spectrism appears to be an adherent of "prosperity gospel," that God rewards those with worldly riches who allegedly "do His will," despite everything Christ and Paul said.

    It is easier for Trump to pass into the Oval Office, than for Spectrism to accept all the facts of the Gospel.
    Libel continues to spew from your posts. Name even one of "the facts of the Gospel" that I deny.


    Quote Originally Posted by crimethink View Post
    We are to proclaim the Truth until He returns. The Truth to them is like silver to a vampire.
    See many vampires, do you? Just where are you spewing this "silver"? All I ever see from you are attacks against the brethren. Cozy up to goldissima as you both are grand delusionists.


    There's the "Spectrism has 'special revelation'" thing again.
    It is not so much what I see, but WHO I know and WHO knows me.


    Spectrism is a false prophet, and has the chutzpah to claim I am the one lacking. You have repeatedly lashed out at others (including me),
    I do lash out at those who are vipers and white-washed sepulchers. I show anger toward those who should know better, and do know better, yet continue on along lost paths with self-blinding resolutions in their hearts. At some point I cut them loose for their choices and fend off their scurrilous rants.

    refuse to see that Trump is a charlatan (lack of discernment),
    You have no idea what I see. So let's visit what YOU see. Where has Trump defrauded the American people this year? Where has Trump failed to keep his promises?


    fail to extend the kindness you claim to embrace,
    You have been offered much. You poison the well with your over-fowing bitterness. You harbor evil and unforgiveness which eats you up inside. You make all an enemy as if driven by fear.


    and routinely distort and make shit up to "fit" what you pretend to "know."
    You still haven't provided a single thing. Unsupported slanders are like building a house on a sandy shore.


    As I noted previously, you are an aficionado of Talmudvision, and compare its current villains to real life. So much for you eschewing self-delusion.
    I must have missed that fine post of yours. Show me where that one is and I will be glad to reply. You keep accusing me of loving or being controlled by the Talmud. You are sewing the snares around yourself. You who thinks he is dousing vampires with the slick oily silver from your mouth, making such rich accusations.


    If "the enemy is already defeated," Mystery Babylon would never have arisen.
    History and time play out for mankind. We are in this time bubble and the sin nature is trapped in mortality. But those He foreknew from the foundations of the earth are those He has washed in His blood with the only power to remove sin from the soul that it might live forever. Messiah has done this already, providing us the victory, to all who would accept it. Show me where the Talmud says this.


    No, instead, Calvary was a promise that the Devil can never ultimately win. Yet he tries anyway. "Make the World Great Again."
    Messiah won the earthly kingdom for all the children of Adam who would be lovers of the truth and accept the victory. He remains away until the fullness of those being saved is complete, just as the farmer leaves his crops growing in the field until the harvest.


    No, you have set up Trump as an idol and false messiah.
    And you are a blatant liar.


    We have yet to see any "good things" he has done. Then again, you consider worldly things to be "good things." Perhaps appointing phony "patriot" and Zionist Bannon is a "good thing" for you?
    He has not taken office yet. And here you are, decrying him worse than any rant you ever raised against Obama or Clinton. Something wrong with this picture. You cannot wait to find or imagine anything horrible about Trump. You had two choices: Hillary Clinton or Trump. That was too tough a decision for you.



    That's the line of Satan, telling his minions that "God cannot surely win."
    And it is YOUR line.... the defeatist claiming that there is no winning for those who are followers of Messiah.

    Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Fool Spectrism fives times, and he "sees the light."
    Let's see who the fool is. I chose:

    secure borders
    end to taxpayer funded abortion
    end to illegal aliens and sanctuary cities paying them to be criminals
    end to government waste of tax money
    reduced taxes
    trade protection in a hostile world
    protection of Christian rights
    protection of constitution and the rights of men
    enforcement of the rule of law for all, not just against the little people


    My choice is to make America a safe place for worshiping God and being free to spread the gospel of salvation domestically and abroad.

    Hillary Clinton promised to do the opposite of all these. And you could not get off your sorry ass to fight against Clinton's demonic plans.
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