150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

the lawmen gangers were all seeing are no better then the drug gangers in big city's they all have the same rule books

Good interview with Ammon Bundy on the release of information where the government said taking Lavoys life was justified. Ammon also tells why he did what he's done and what he hopes to accomplish by those actions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8chKjtQ5rA

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I faxed this letter to Sheriff David Ward two days before they murdered LaVoy Finicum. The coward could have prevented this.

January 24, 2016
David M. Ward, Sheriff
485 N. Court Street #
Burns, Oregon
Tel. 541 573-6156
Fax 541 573-8383


Dear Sheriff Ward:


You have a situation in your county that is due to the inaction of one man, and one man only. That man is you. Even though you were appointed the office you hold is an elected office by the people of Harney County. Your first responsibility is to the people, not to the committee that appointed you, nor the governor nor least of all the Federal Government.
I am an old man coming from a Nevada farming/ranching family. I have seen and experienced lot in my lifetime. What you are about to experience can be avoided if you choose to act. The results will be something you will live with the rest of your life.


You can be a man, assume the responsibility of your office, order the Federal government out of your county and avoid any bloodshed. Let due process be served.


There is much corruption in your local government just as there is in my local government in Nye County, Nevada. Federal grant money breeds strange bedfellows.


If you want to live the rest of your life knowing you could have prevented the situation that is about to occur continue to hide under your desk. If not grow some balls and take action. Let your conscience be your guide. You will be a national hero if you do the right thing. If not they will throw you under the bus when they no longer need you.


Sincerely yours,
/s/James L. Jensen
James. L. Jensen

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Good for job Monty. That letter was straight talk and the truth. The gutless bastard didn't listen though and now he has Lavoy's blood on his hands. He should resign and let someone else take the job that will uphold the constitutional rights of the people in that county.

In the video I posted in post 829 above Chris Briles said he has started a petition to have judge Grasty recalled. I think the same should be done with Sheriff Ward. Chris Briles should be the Sheriff in that county.

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Good for job Monty. That letter was straight talk and the truth. The gutless bastard didn't listen though and now he has Lavoy's blood on his hands. He should resign and let someone else take the job that will uphold the constitutional rights of the people in that county.

In the video I posted in post 829 above Chris Briles said he has started a petition to have judge Grasty recalled. I think the same should be done with Sheriff Ward. Chris Briles should be the Sheriff in that county.

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I listened to Chris Briles speak. He is an honorable man. He would make a good sheriff. The cowardly Ward is also Grasty's in law. Yes, they both should resign or be recalled.

When he was asked - hwo do you think this will go down in history? He should have responded - it depends who writes it. That's why it's important for independent people to write this down, post articles, movies, clips, anything to make a written record of this event.

I really hope he's right and that there is some justice left in the system, but it doesn't look good. Randi Weaver, Waco, OKC, 9/11 are just a few "events" that come to mind

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I listened to Chris Briles speak. He is an honorable man. He would make a good sheriff. The cowardly Ward is also Grasty's in law. Yes, they both should resign or be recalled.

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At about 3:30 in this video former Army Ranger John Moore from Nevada and his interviewer discuss Sherriff Ward and his need for a body guard. He speaks the truth about Sherrif Ward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFD0HKVf11w

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Tumbleweed "Oregon Live continues to run a smear campaign against the Bundys and Lavoy Finicum to justify the actions of the FBI and Oregon State police at this link. http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...lavoy_fin.html

I guess they want the murderers to walk away feeling like hero's deserving of admiration, respect and pats on the back for shooting down a good man who was enroute to Grant county to teach ranchers, miners and loggers about the constitution where they were invited. Sheriff Glen Palmer was to be there and from what Lavoy said I believe he thought the Sheriff would help them and give them some protection."

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http://youtu.be/_DKQ8ndh-_0
Youtube link: http://youtu.be/_DKQ8ndh-_0

I think some New Jersey outfit owns the Oregonian, Uranium 1? The more you stir an old turd the worse it smells

Yeah thats how you teach people about the Constitution and growing a pair of nuts...by acting like a complete belligerent idiot. Get out of your truck and taunt them to kill you after you run their road block which was after stopping before hand and screaming at them to leave him alone.
Bahahaha.....freaken idiot!

Darwin award is all I will recognize that dumb ass for.

He was ready for a confrontation (hot headed and all) and he got one.
Like I say about some here on this forum.....I dont want to be around you f^cktards when the SHTF...you're extremely dangerous to yourself and other around you. Good example are the three others in the truck who were getting shot at because dipshit flipped the tube to a John Wayne channel.
Just what kind of example do you think this idiot made?
I doubt he knew anything about the Constitution (most likely a palani style Constitutional education chocked full of conspiracy). When you understand the Constitution you dont need to run road blocks and challenge men with guns to kill you.

Glad hes gone!

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Yeah thats how you teach people about the Constitution and growing a pair of nuts...by acting like a complete belligerent idiot. Get out of your truck and taunt them to kill you after you run their road block which was after stopping before hand and screaming at them to leave him alone.
Bahahaha.....freaken idiot!

Darwin award is all I will recognize that dumb ass for.

He was ready for a confrontation (hot headed and all) and he got one.
Like I say about some here on this forum.....I dont want to be around you f^cktards when the SHTF...you're extremely dangerous to yourself and other around you. Good example are the three others in the truck who were getting shot at because dipshit flipped the tube to a John Wayne channel.
Just what kind of example do you think this idiot made?
I doubt he knew anything about the Constitution (most likely a palani style Constitutional education chocked full of conspiracy). When you understand the Constitution you dont need to run road blocks and challenge men with guns to kill you.

Glad hes gone!

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If you are the smartest person in the room you need to find another room. Bubye.

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Then why do you persist in tormenting yourself by hanging out with us fucktards?? ???

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Then why do you persist in tormenting yourself by hanging out with us fucktards?? ???

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Just let him go, no need to have him rant, he can go painlessly.

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Then why do you persist in tormenting yourself by hanging out with us fucktards?? ???

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Probably gets laughed at at work for thinking he knows everything and comes here purging the same shit like diarrhea all over the keyboard. Get's called out for being the communist fucktard that he is and can't find a tampon big enough to stop the bleeding of his vagina.

Mark McConnell - goes home at night and posts on GSUS as 7th trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IASHSdMr3vM

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Mark McConnell - goes home at night and posts on GSUS as 7th trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IASHSdMr3vM

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"I wasn't there and didn't actually see what happened yet I *know* what happened."

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If you are the smartest person in the room you need to find another room. Bubye.

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Didnt say I was the smartest guy in the room, but you guys sure do make it easy.

It doesnt take any amount of intelligence to see what the dip shit did and what he exposed his friends and loved ones to. For Christs sakes didnt you see the glass being shot out right in front of the camera?
It was being shot out just inches from their heads because the dumbass got out and tried playing a John Wayne card. And the guys on the outside gave him the death card instead.
Freaken darwin recipient doop!

LOL - yeah really !!
I wasn't there but none of you were either so stop speculating...but he charged at the cops....

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Yep the guy said dead boy was passionate.....translation: he allows his emotions to overrule common sense and any level headedness.
Mistake number 1 and rule number 1 I look for in people....police included.............are they emotionally charged. If so, stay away from weak minded idiots.

Yep this guy is smarter than your average guy and he's out of jail and the rest are not.

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Probably gets laughed at at work for thinking he knows everything and comes here purging the same shit like diarrhea all over the keyboard. Get's called out for being the communist fucktard that he is and can't find a tampon big enough to stop the bleeding of his vagina.

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Hahahaha....I see I pissed in your Wheaties to warrant this response.
Suck it up buttercup....you have a long difficult journey ahead of you. You're gonna be eating a lot of crow some day soon.

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Yeah thats how you teach people about the Constitution and growing a pair of nuts...by acting like a complete belligerent idiot. Get out of your truck and taunt them to kill you after you run their road block which was after stopping before hand and screaming at them to leave him alone.
Bahahaha.....freaken idiot!

Darwin award is all I will recognize that dumb ass for.

He was ready for a confrontation (hot headed and all) and he got one.
Like I say about some here on this forum.....I dont want to be around you f^cktards when the SHTF...you're extremely dangerous to yourself and other around you. Good example are the three others in the truck who were getting shot at because dipshit flipped the tube to a John Wayne channel.
Just what kind of example do you think this idiot made?
I doubt he knew anything about the Constitution (most likely a palani style Constitutional education chocked full of conspiracy). When you understand the Constitution you dont need to run road blocks and challenge men with guns to kill you.

Glad hes gone!

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You can learn a lot about a person by listening to what they have to say and the actions they take through out their lives. I watched his videos, read what he's written and studied the many photos of him through out his life. It appears in the many photos of the video I'm going to post below that all of his life he was surrounded by family and friends who loved him and it shows in the photos that he loved and cared about them.

It's obvious to me he was a good man who cared for others and was doing all he could and the best he could to help his family and the families of others. He stood eyeball to eyeball and toe to toe with evil bastards that have sold their souls to Satan and he didn't blink or back up.

It appears to me Seventh Trump you've aligned yourself with the Satanists in attacking and wanting to destroy the name of a good man. You don't gain anything by doing that. It only makes you look small and miserable and no decent person would want to be around you. It's a good thing you don't want to be around fucktards like myself and others on this forum when the shtf because I sure as hell would'nt want to be around you.

The photos in this video are set to music and appear to cover Lavoys whole life.
It's pretty easy to see he was a good man with many friends and many family members who thought well of him and loved him.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGxm_sM_QEk

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Mark McConnell - goes home at night and posts on GSUS as 7th trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IASHSdMr3vM

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Actually this guy is intelligently light years ahead of you.
I'd feel comfortable with him around. Hes observant and doesnt allow his emotions to control him. Not like most of you retards jumping to conclusion when the lights go out.

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Hahahaha....I see I pissed in your Wheaties to warrant this response.
Suck it up buttercup....you have a long difficult journey ahead of you. You're gonna be eating a lot of crow some day soon.

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I have no desire to learn communism comrade. But thanks for the offer.

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You can learn a lot about a person by listening to what they have to say and the actions they take through out their lives. I watched his videos, read what he's written and studied the many photos of him through out his life. It appears in the many photos of the video I'm going to post below that all of his life he was surrounded by family and friends who loved him and it shows in the photos that he loved and cared about them.

It's obvious to me he was a good man who cared for others and was doing all he could and the best he could to help his family and the families of others. He stood eyeball to eyeball and toe to toe with evil bastards that have sold their souls to Satan and he didn't blink or back up.

It appears to me Seventh Trump you've aligned yourself with the Satanists in attacking and wanting to destroy the name of a good man. You don't gain anything by doing that. It only makes you look small and miserable and no decent person would want to be around you. It's a good thing you don't want to be around fucktards like myself and others on this forum when the wtshtf because I sure as hell would'nt want to be around you.

The photos in this video are set to music and appear to cover Lavoys whole life.
It's pretty easy to see he was a good man with many friends and many family members who thought well of him and loved him.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGxm_sM_QEk

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Just another douche letting his emotions judge again.
Really....so you think you know this guy by looking at pictures huh?
I've witnessed some of the nastiest people have the most beautiful wives and girlfriends at their sides who seriously fucked people over because it was cool.
Spare me your idiocy.

The guy ran a road block and then challenged the police to shoot him all while putting three others in serious danger and yet that is buried and hurts your ears to hear.

Please spare me your lunacy and join up with midnight rambler and stroke him off.

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I have no desire to learn communism comrade. But thanks for the offer.

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Hahahaha....you like stroking midnight dont you?
I bet he likes you stroking him too....()()luv
When you look up does midnight have a gleem in his eye when you stroke him?

"Queer minds think queer thoughts." --Dr. Rosenblum, shrink, and father of a high school classmate

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Actually this guy is intelligently light years ahead of you.
I'd feel comfortable with him around. Hes observant and doesnt allow his emotions to control him. Not like most of you retards jumping to conclusion when the lights go out.

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It's easy to be just along for the ride and do nothing to help the cause when others are taking the point doing all the heavy lifting. This guy sits here making contradictory statements, speculating and bragging how he was released early because he wasn't in any articles, didn't do anything to challenge authority - wow, good for him, he got a front row seat, observed, and then when it got dicey, he bowed out and sided with the mercenaries that murdered the point man...quite the show of his character...

The only reason this issue has gotten the traction, attention and movement is because of people much more committed than him - if that's who you align yourself with, I guess that sats a lot

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You can learn a lot about a person by listening to what they have to say and the actions they take through out their lives. I watched his videos, read what he's written and studied the many photos of him through out his life. It appears in the many photos of the video I'm going to post below that all of his life he was surrounded by family and friends who loved him and it shows in the photos that he loved and cared about them.

It's obvious to me he was a good man who cared for others and was doing all he could and the best he could to help his family and the families of others. He stood eyeball to eyeball and toe to toe with evil bastards that have sold their souls to Satan and he didn't blink or back up.

It appears to me Seventh Trump you've aligned yourself with the Satanists in attacking and wanting to destroy the name of a good man. You don't gain anything by doing that. It only makes you look small and miserable and no decent person would want to be around you. It's a good thing you don't want to be around fucktards like myself and others on this forum when the wtshtf because I sure as hell would'nt want to be around you.

The photos in this video are set to music and appear to cover Lavoys whole life.
It's pretty easy to see he was a good man with many friends and many family members who thought well of him and loved him.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGxm_sM_QEk

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I had the honor of communicating with him by email several months before the Oregon standoff. His words, the way he expressed himself and his desire to teach and help his fellow man showed through in his writings. His words and the manner he expressed himself reminded me of my own father. I can tell you no ones death has affected me since the day President Kennedy was assainated as much as the murder of LaVoy Finicum has.

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Hahahaha....you like stroking midnight dont you?
I bet he likes you stroking him too.
Does he have a gleem in his eye when you stroke him?

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Your ideology says it all. Somehow you think the Federal government has rights to land within a state. Yet you have yet to produce any such evidence that gives the Federal government jurisdiction within the borders of a state. Then you say the people protesting such trampling of the 10th Amendment are morons and feel that one of them deserved to be killed.

You're a communist sympathizing sack of shit, and apparently you have gay fantasies. Whatever floats your boat man. I hear a lot of tails about gay electricians never thought I'd be in a debate with one.

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Just another douche letting his emotions judge again.
Really....so you think you know this guy by looking at pictures huh?
I've witnessed some of the nastiest people have the most beautiful wives and girlfriends at their sides who seriously fucked people over because it was cool.
Spare me your idiocy.

The guy ran a road block and then challenged the police to shoot him all while putting three others in serious danger and yet that is buried and hurts your ears to hear.

Please spare me your lunacy and join up with midnight rambler and stroke him off.

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appears to me Seventh Trump you've aligned yourself with the Satanists in attacking and wanting to destroy the name of a good man. You don't gain anything by doing that. It only makes you look small and miserable and no decent person would want to be around you. It's a good thing you don't want to be around fucktards like myself and others on this forum when the wtshtf because I sure as hell would'nt want to be around you.

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For a man who professes to be a Christian I can't believe how hypocritical you are. As Tumbleweed says you have aligned yourself with Satan himself. I can't express my feelings any better than Tumblweed's statement quoted above.

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You do realize of course that Satan worshipers are a form of 'Christian' 'cause they have to believe in the Bible as the very origin of their belief system, right?

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You do realize of course that Satan worshipers are a form of 'Christian' 'cause they have to believe in the Bible as the very origin of their belief system, right?

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Now that you point it out, yes.

What is bothering me (and others, I assume) is that they killed Finicum when Finicum presented himself for surrender (hands spread wide apart).

We are not going to argue with those who despise Finicum, but, those who *pretend* Finicum was reaching to draw a firearm - nobody believes that for real. What we are thinking about those, who repeat that farce (as if they really believe it), is that they do not hold dear the idea that the ONLY reason for govie gunmen to kill a suspect is when they truly FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES - that is simply NOT CREDIBLE in this case, especially since NO EVIDENCE was allowed to be confirmed by non-govie sources. They are lying, and that makes them cold-blooded MURDERERS (pre-meditated, with malice aforethought).

Lavoy Finicum – Suicide by Cop

By Jim W. Dean, Managing Editor on March 9, 2016
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-cont...m-shooting.jpgDraw number three for Lavoy, and his last

… by Jim W. Dean, VT Editor

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-cont...fp-320-280.jpgOur sympathies go out to all the families for the lives being wasted through poor choices

Well the verdict is in for me. Yesterday’s inside the car video was followed today with the transcript of who said what when the shooting went down, very critical information to have, as I have never seen a felony arrest where the officers were “silent types”, or did not know what to say.
After the release of the aerial video, there was nothing more to analyze to help determine if it was a justifiable shooting or not, and the issue needed to be settled and put to bed with hard evidence.
We had the early clues from comments of never wanting to go to prison, no surprise there, but he added reflective framing that he had “had” a good life. Here is exactly what he said.
“I’m just not going to prison… Look at the stars. There’s no way I’m going to sit in a concrete cell where I can’t see the stars and roll out my bedroll on the ground.
That’s just not going to happen… I want to be able to get up in the morning and throw my saddle on my horse and go check on my cows. It’s OK. I’ve lived a good life. God’s been gracious to me.”

Fast forward to the first stop, where the second car with Amon Bundy in it surrendered without incident. The militia bloggers have air-brushed that incident. Amon took the other fork in the road, and his battle will be fought in the courts. Finicum’s people will think they have a bad shooting crusade on their hands, but they don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell.
At the first stop Finicum’s behavior was irresponsible. You generally don’t give instructions to arresting officers unless you have a hostage. And Finicum potentially did have a car load. You notice that he and Bundy did not take their trip in one car together. They brought their human shields with them, including the women, plus their guns.
Yesterday’s new inside the car video shows him taunting the police at the initial stop to shoot him, already playing the victim that the blood would be on their hands. But why would they shoot him and ruin their careers, and put their families through all of that for a grandstanding egomaniac?
His demeanor and what he said was putting him more and more toward his suicide-by-cop moment, and you can bet your booties that the cops had been briefed on that potentially happening. You see at the first stop they were not rushing things, I think hoping that when they saw Amon Bundy’s vehicle surrender, Finicum’s might, also.
But Finicum took off, which edged him up another notch on his final appointment. When he barreled in on the three-car road block, where if he had plowed into them he certainly could have killed people, he crossed over to a higher threat level again. Officers say they fired three times at the truck, but hit no one inside. Later one bullet hole was found in the roof.
At 5:22 on the aerial video with Finicum barreling down the center of the road block the cell phone camera records what seems to be a bullet strike. That causes Finicum to veer left.
At 5:23 his truck is fully in the left lane.
At 5:24 he says “hang on” as he starts veering left into the snowbank. One second later is heard what sounds like a rifle blast. (Finicum’s window was open) If he had not veered left, he would have crashed the road block at 5:24, which showed the cops withheld their fire til the last moment.
At 5:28 Finicum’s truck has stopped and he has his door fully open and
At 5:29 He says his first “Go ahead and shoot me,” and then a couple of shoots ring out and a left side back window is blown out, which seem to be gas rounds. Finicum has 13 seconds left to live.
Looking at the aerial tape and listening to the car phone, you can hear Finicum saying some version of “shoot me” over and over until the final shots ring out, starting at 5:42.
To Finicum’s credit, he jumped out of the truck to get away from those inside, and we learn quickly why. He was instructed to get down on the ground three times, ignored that, kept moving around, moving his hands, and the prosecutor’s report states he was not shot until his third reach toward his gun pocket.
This is as classic a suicide by cop situation as I have seen. The two closest officers held their fire despite his reaching for his pocket twice. Finicum knew exactly what he was doing, forcing the officers to shoot him. And it was not an honorable death. He was not man enough to fight his case in the courts, but left the others to do so. Now his family will be consumed with a fruitless fight to punish these officers for doing what Finicum forced them to do.
Maybe he felt that he if were killed that would spur donations toward their defense. Maybe that is why the militia blogs pandered the “executed in cold blood with his hands up” scam… to get the cash flowing in. Maybe they wanted to stimulate another shootout with those remaining at the reserve, over the “execution” of Lavoy, and have multiple deaths to spur the movement on.
The FBI hostage rescue team families’ lives will be changed forever also, but by their own hands, as they withheld they had fired two shots through three questionings. This is mind-boggling, as SOP usually has an ordinance check for everyone and the recovery.
The only good that can come from this is for younger people to maybe learn how not to get sucked into these Jade Helmster scams with the legends-in-their-own-minds crowd, who have the poorest track record for doing anything for social movements in America. Lost in all of this is when George Bush (43) was elected, the largest militia in the country, the Michigan Militia, disbanded, as their man was now in charge, and the milk and honey times were just around the corner.
Comments can be submitted to jimwdean67@gmail.com and I will post a sampling to weed out the militia trolls.

They were ordered to execute him plain and simple. He was the heart and soul of the revolt and orders from up top were to silence him. Why is it that law enforcement continued firing on the truck with three people in it for several minutes after they executed Finicum? Where was the threat at that point?

With all those cops present, they could have tackled or tased him. We've been conditioned to accept this type of behavior from LEOs - that if you disobey an order then they have the right to execute you - this is nonsense !! If their orders were to apprehend, I really think 20 cops with bullet proof vests a helicopter and snipers in the trees could have taken alive 2 men and 2 women in an SUV.
Joshua is spot on - they had orders to silence him. If he had surrendered they would have just locked him away and who knows what would have happened after that.

This is a video of a press conference held yesterday with Lavoy's wife Jeanette, two of her daughters and Lavoys brother.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoafF7Nvlso

The 9mm may have been a gift from his son - that sucks.
The cops will try to use that as their justification

Here's another video done by David Knight where he makes a lot of good points about the behavior of the Oregon State police and FBI. He attacks Pete Santilli at one point that I don't agree with but the rest of the video hits the mark in my opinion. Santilli can be a little obnoxious at times but he did a tremendous amount to expose what the FBI, law enforcement and politicians were up to in Burns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Sd6px9-7w

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Lavoy Finicum – Suicide by Cop

By Jim W. Dean, Managing Editor on March 9, 2016
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-cont...m-shooting.jpgDraw number three for Lavoy, and his last

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Can anyone say this represents him reacting to a taser strike? What I see is a cop aiming (actually it looks more like aiming to me but let's go go full retard on our speculation based on a grainy video capture) what could be a handgun OR a taser at the very side he's grabbing. No way that this could have been a setup to make him move quickly so the other cops can open fire, is it? Nahhhhhhhh...impossible, right? Let's go with the government's story

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The 9mm may have been a gift from his son - that sucks.
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The problem with the 9mm story is that the official narrative is that the gun 'found' on LaVoy had been 'reported stolen'.

So ridiculous ! They were going to MEET THE SHERIFF - why weren't they just arrested when they stepped out of the car at the sheriff's office ??
Instead they had to erect these illegal road blocks, put snipers in the trees and create the most hostile environment. I'm even more convinced - they wanted to kill everyone deep in the woods and concoct a story that these fleeing "violent extremists" attacked the police.