Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
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iOWNme
I guess a child rapist owns the child in his basement because he said so?
Your analogy is so far off there is no comment needed.
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iOWNme
Again, where did you find this rabble? Have you been reading the scribbles of insane lobotomized monkeys again? Why do you persist at doing this? Havent you realized your NEVER going to find any reason or logic in the scribbles of 'Politicians'?
As long as they play the tune you are going to dance to it.
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iOWNme
How about you stop analyzing things from a 'legal' (INSANE) perspective and try and apply your own moral code to the world. Is this a crazy idea to you?
When dealing with a 'legal' system you use the rules of that system. My moral code applies to me only.
Harry S Truman extended his authority and he did so with no response from the several States. He did this in 1948. Now just WHY does it disturb you that I am discussing this in 2014? I guarantee you I was not walking the earth (or even crawling it for that matter) when Harry took his unconstitutional action. I am describing the result. The result is still in the 'happening' stage.
And I care not a tuppence for your attitude or tone. You have no reason. Only argument. Begone!!!! Troll.
Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
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palani
Your analogy is so far off there is no comment needed.
Your right, a child rapist has done FAR LESS damage than any President, Politicans or American voters have done. As a matter of fact, if you could replace every Politician, Military grunt and Police officer with a child rapist, this planet would be a MUCH NICER place to live.
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As long as they play the tune you are going to dance to it.
How will I 'dance' to their tune if i dont read their music? Do YOU read their music? LOL
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When dealing with a 'legal' system you use the rules of that system. My moral code applies to me only.
Yet you NEVER use your own moral code, you ALWAYS rely on the 'legal' mumbo jumbo of other men. Why do you do this?
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Harry S Truman extended his authority and he did so with no response from the several States. He did this in 1948. Now just WHY does it disturb you that I am discussing this in 2014? I guarantee you I was not walking the earth (or even crawling it for that matter) when Harry took his unconstitutional action. I am describing the result. The result is still in the 'happening' stage.
Its not disturbing to me that your discussing it, its disturbing to me that you think it matters. LOL
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And I care not a tuppence for your attitude or tone. You have no reason. Only argument. Begone!!!! Troll.
I have no reason? LOL You advocate for 'Government' as a legitimate entity. And it is ME who has no reason? LMAO!
I also noticed you couldnt show me the moral position behind your intital statement. In 'Law' silence is acquiescence. I do not follow 'Law', so i am going to ask you again: What is the moral principle behind your initial statement about Truman?
Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
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iOWNme
[B] if you could replace every Politician, Military grunt and Police officer with a child rapist, this planet would be a MUCH NICER place to live.
Is this you making this statement or some demon?
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iOWNme
Do YOU read their music? LOL
Just like with a FLIR camera the steps are visible for for many decades after the dance is complete.
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iOWNme
you ALWAYS rely on the 'legal' mumbo jumbo of other men. Why do you do this?
Due process in notice plus the right to inquire. The 'legal' mumbo jumbo is the notice. The response is my right to inquire.
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iOWNme
its disturbing to me that you think it matters.
What is your definition of 'it'?
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iOWNme
I have no reason? LOL You advocate for 'Government' as a legitimate entity. And it is ME who has no reason? LMAO!
Where have I advocated anything? I disassemble things and see if they can go together in a different fashion. The raw material I use is the acts of previous officials.
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iOWNme
I also noticed you couldnt show me the moral position behind your intital statement.
For moral codes you will have to ask Harry when you see him. Take plenty of suntan lotion.
Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
Bundy Ranch Indicates Chinese Eminent Domain is in Fact Reality
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The story goes like this - In 2009 Hillary went to China and made all sorts of promises to get China to secure more American debt by buying U.S. treasury bonds, and if America ever defaulted, China would get vast tracts of American land. I don't know if you know about the Escalante staircase land grab, (read that one, it's great) but I suggest you look into it if you never heard of it, that land grab would be a definite precursor to what may be going on now. Anyway, The rumor had it in 2009 that China would get to act militarily to secure American lands put up as collateral to secure American debt. And it was widely reported as a hoax by many mainstream news sites, but alternative news sites held their ground and said the following is true. This is the story that started it all, in 2009. I do not know one way or the other about whether or not any of this is true, but I will state that it is very suspicious that China is in the mix out at Bundy Ranch, and therefore despite this not being confirmed, I really think people should know about it
ources at the United States Embassy in Beijing China have just CONFIRMED to me that the United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People's Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China's continued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves.
The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.
This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take -- inside the USA -- land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.
Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to "take" all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.
My response: This may or may not be true, but I ask the reader to consider something - it is easily concluded fact that the Federal government hates the nation and wants it destroyed. This is why illegals are being allowed up into America unchecked, all the while they get first class medical care at our expense no questions asked while Americans get the shaft via the "affordable care" act. Many other examples of government hatred for the American people abound, from tainted vaccines to ridiculous taxes to family courts that absolutely eviscerate men, all the way down to items such as deep water horizon, haarp drougts and Bundy ranch. There is no doubt the Federal government, with it's intentionally sabotaged Common Core education that is no doubt geared to destroy the future of this nation would find it outside of reach to pledge American lands to china while they death smash this country into a permanent black hole. I find the above to be very plausible and though the above cannot be definitively confirmed, Bundy Ranch and the rest of these BLM land grabs sure look bad after reading that. This is a response I sent out to a mail I received which is worthy of posting. It is a little disjointed if you did not see the preceeding mail, but there are a lot of good points here in condensed form Don't sweat anything. Just don't vaccinate. And don't get caught in all the rumor traps, it's all simple -
Eat meat and potoatoes every day, eggs and toast for breakfast, the same diet America became great on and you won't have problems. If you want to store food, just buy the same stuff you always eat in cans and jars and bags, don't waste money on so called "emergency kits". If it comes down to it, people can eat cat food but never dog food because dog food is a much lower grade and will eventually cause brain decay. (this is because dogs can take scrapie infected animals, which get mixed in with everything else in the final wash, and not get a prion induced encephalothopy disease. Cats can't ward off the prions and neither can people. So people and cats get much better food.) The best source of non GMO seeds on the planet is old fashioned pop corn in one pound bags, it is shipped live and plantable. The bottom line with practically everything is if it comes across the mainstream media it is a lie. The nanobot report is verified accurate, I am not kidding when I say that was vetted by a doctorate of pharmacology, the same one who co wrote Tainted Nightmare. It is simply modeled around a bacteriophage which would normally never attack people, and modified to look the way it does. And I'd like you to do something for verification the vaccines are bad. Something that will prove it to you in no uncertain terms. Go to Wal Mart and look at the children in the check out line (the age group that sits in the shopping carts). They usually all have blank stares now, and when you do something to make them laugh or smile, they don't respond anymore. Walk the check outs until you see a kid who is totally engaged with people, smiling, bright and acting intelligently. Ask the mom if she vaccinated her baby, and if she says yes, ask if she is Jewish. If she says no, then ask if she is from a foreign country and never vaccinated in America. You will be surprised, I have discovered this is a great way to figure out who is Jewish or who is foreign. I never figured out the method, but I can definitely state that somehow, "they" do not get the same shots.
James
April 29 2014
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Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
Our politicians and corporations have sold out the american people to foreign governments to line their own pockets. They want to keep all the money they've stolen and to do that they need to disarm the american people so that when the Chinese come to foreclose on us they don't get shot. The chinese are afraid of those guns behind every blade of grass.
The real enemies of the american people are the politicians and corporations who have sold us out.
Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
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Tumbleweed
Our politicians and corporations have sold out the american people to foreign governments to line their own pockets. They want to keep all the money they've stolen and to do that they need to disarm the american people so that when the Chinese come to foreclose on us they don't get shot. The chinese are afraid of those guns behind every blade of grass.
The real enemies of the american people are the politicians and corporations who have sold us out.
I'm curious to see if the Militias will get involved when the IRS kicks down the door of someone who isn't paying their obamacare "tax". Should get interesting then. Make no mistake about it, the government backing down at the Bundy ranch has embolden the militias. They saw their weakness, direct confrontation is something they've only trained for, but don't have the experience with other individuals who know how to shoot, and not to mention more accurate weapons. I think keeping automatics out of the hands of civilians was a double edge sword. Yeah it keeps the population from having easy access to fully automatic weapons, but the weapons they do have access too are far more accurate because of it being semi-automatic.
There is disgust, feelings of betrayal, and rebellion in the air. You can smell it, see it, and even taste it if you know what you're looking for. There hasn't been this much tension, or boiling anger since the south decided to tell the feds to go fuck themselves in 1860's.
We certainly do live in interesting times, I think it's going to get a lot more interesting.
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^ I agree and no one should ever go to another protest without their guns and plenty of ammo.
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Notice: Constitutional Militias are Withdrawing from Bundy Ranch
A Letter to the Public, 4 May 2014
Notice: Constitutional Militias are Withdrawing from Bundy Ranch
When the call came out from militias in Nevada that they needed help because a rancher’s Constitutional rights were being violated, Constitutional militia men, defensive patriot groups, and humanitarian aid groups responded from all over the United States. Individual citizens showed up to protest, and the Sleeping Giant was awakened. The Federal government, especially the BLM, found out that if they are going to trample on the Constitutional Rights of U.S. Citizens, they will meet overwhelming resistance. The mission went as all Constitutional Militias prayed it would; the BLM was forced to leave without either side firing a shot.
It is the Goal of all Constitutional Militias and Patriot groups to take our country back without bloodshed. This will, in time, be accomplished as long as the government does not fire on them. If they do then there will, unfortunately, be bloodshed.
Several Militia and Patriot group leaders have conferred, and yesterday, a message was given to one of the people that guards Mr. Cliven Bundy. Mr. Bundy was given an option. He can continue to keep Ryan Payne, a man called Buddha, who refuses to let anyone know who he really is, their other associates with Operation Mutual Aid, and the Mountain Men Militia, and the Constitutional Militias will go home. Or, Mr. Bundy can tell these militants that he wants Constitutional Militias guarding him and we will return when these others leave. This is Mr. Bundy’s choice; the constitutional Militias will NOT be part of any group trying to start a war.
There are now people at the ranch who are best described as militant. These people want to force an armed confrontation. Some are with Operation Mutual Aid and the Mountain Men Militia which are not as their actions have proven Constitutional Militias. Ryan Payne of Operation Mutual Aid has released a stream of videos making accusations of Militias and Oath Keepers being cowards because they fell back and scattered out when the possibility of a drone strike was obtained through intelligence channels. It appears that Mr. Payne’s intent is to discredit other groups so he can remain in control, and that he wants a war. The Militias want a solution. Many militia members have been to war, and will fight if that time comes, but are in absolutely no hurry to speed up the process and kill other Americans if it can be stopped without violence.
It is now past the time for Mr. Bundy to respond. Therefore, we have to assume his choice is to keep who he has at the ranch. Any illegal action by any person at the ranch now has nothing to do with any Constitutional Militias, as an agreed stand down order has been stated to pull out. From this point on, any conflict started by the people at the ranch rest solely upon those there, and the Bundy’s, and not any of the Constitutional Militias who traveled thousands of miles to protect the Bundy’s.
We, the Constitutional Militias, thank the people of Bunkerville for their support and the way they welcomed us into their community. We thank the Bundy’s for their hospitality while we were there. We wish both the Bundy’s and the Citizens of Nevada good luck with this situation and hope it ends well.
To the Federal Government, I want them to understand this: No Patriot Group or Constitutional Militia involved are deserting the Bundy’s. While we will not support illegal militant groups if they start something, we will return if the Bundy’s are further assaulted or their Constitutional Rights are violated again. Keep in mind that this last response was proportional. If this was a test to measure our strength, it failed miserably; you still do not know the size of the American Patriot movement or its capabilities.
There have been accusations made against people and groups; I personally am seeing that they are looked into. If those accusations are found to be true, they will be dealt with. One of the biggest problems we have had since the beginning is Ryan Payne, with Operation Mutual Aid, trying to sew division. The persons who have created this problem will not be allowed to participate in any of the Constitutional Militia’s areas if conflict occurs. We will not tolerate militants, liars, thieves, infiltrators, provocateurs, or any of the like. Just like the military, there is conflict at times that must be handled, but the correct way is to deal with these problems is in house, and not to air dirty laundry in public. I personally apologize to all who have been exposed to the aforementioned videos; they were very unprofessional, and purposely done to discredit the Constitutional Militias. It makes me wonder about the true intentions of those involved. God Bless America and every one of us who lives here.
Ever Vigilant,
CPT Eric C. Rahn - Commanding
Alpha Co, 423rd Battalion, 28th Field Force
Texas Light Foot Militia
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what the hell is he talking about .............While we will not support illegal militant groups
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mick silver
what the hell is he talking about .............While we will not support illegal militant groups
Agent Provocateurs who want a fire fight with the fed.gov.