Geocentrism

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Originally Posted by Dachsie

I think some here do not fully know what the thesis of this film is.

From what I know so far, with the entire movie not being released yet, they never claim that the "earth is at the center" of the universe. I used that term loosely but they do not specifically claim the "center" idea.

I do not know much at all about cosmology, but their thesis seems plausible to me and I respect them for having the courage to put it forward. The authors of the film are being persecuted by the Zionist establishment including the Catholic Zionist establishment. The only thing I do not understand is the real reason Dr. Sungenis and Mr. Delano went to Hollywood and sought the expertise of the mainly Zionist film makers there. I can understand their wanting the material made into a very high-quality professionally directed movie, but it seems that is obtainable elsewhere.

Nothing good comes out of Hollywood.

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The film was largely independently made. It did not involve any large Hollywood studios (or any for that matter). It was made on a pretty small budget. Rick Delano is a traditional Catholic, and just happens to live in the LA area. He was in the music business previously (in finance I think). Rick kept very tight control of the content of the film. The only Hollywood guy involved is another Catholic who was part of promoting The Passion of Christ. It was a small enough production that until recently no one even knew about it. Now that it is going to release, more Hollywood channels need to be consulted. Rocky Mountain Pictures is an independent distribution channel.

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Originally Posted by EE_

Scientists can only begin to understand very small pieces of larger puzzle. Until they can answer the ultimate questions, they know nothing and their theories about the universe are worthless.
The ultimate questions are:
Why does the universe exist?
How can the universe be infinate?
How can something exist with no beginning?
How can something be created without a creator?

Oh, and Stephan Hawking is a shithead and a liar that has many people fooled.

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Science cannot answer those questions. But they claim to try.

I think Hawking has himself fooled. But he is not stupid, and I do not think he is necessarily a liar. Many mainstream scientists want to maintain the philosophical view they threaded into their theories, and they are willing to believe a lot of bunk to keep it going (dark energy, dark matter, inflation, multiverse, etc.). They invented all this stuff and ideas to maintain the status quo. If they did not the big bang theory would have collapsed under the weight of evidence a long time ago. So, as each failure comes along, they invent something new that cannot be tested.

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Originally Posted by Dachsie

they never claim that the "earth is at the center" of the universe.

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And when a quasar explodes on the opposite side of alpha-centari, the redistribution effect of gravity center in the universe makes possible those levitating gurus in India.

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Originally Posted by JohnQPublic

Science cannot answer those questions. But they claim to try.

I think Hawking has himself fooled. But he is not stupid, and I do not think he is necessarily a liar. Many mainstream scientists want to maintain the philosophical view they threaded into their theories, and they are willing to believe a lot of bunk to keep it going (dark energy, dark matter, inflation, multiverse, etc.). They invented all this stuff and ideas to maintain the status quo. If they did not the big bang theory would have collapsed under the weight of evidence a long time ago. So, as each failure comes along, they invent something new that cannot be tested.

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Exactly! When something is unanswerable, people invent their own answers. Until then, nothing really makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Horn

They need to keep the Pope alive...

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Sorry, Horn. A lot of geocentrists are Protestant, such as Gerardus Buow, Martin Selbrede, and John Byl. It is an issue of interest to all Christians.

geocentrist - egocentric

notice any similarities?

Luv you for our differences, John. :)

watching but dont know if I will finish it as it has a "church" undertone.... Delano lauds the church for funding sciences in the past ...

they also dismiss the existence of dark matter in their thesis, what is in my view an absolute fail as it is the Aether that produces electromagnetism (and thus Photons, Light), The Aether is the "blood" of every living cell. No atom can exist without it. And that is why the Church went after Alchemy, as it is a science that includes the Aether in its theories. As a result progress has been delayed by centuries.

also look for: Geocentrism - The Coming Scientific Revolution, on youtube with same guys

ChurchMilitantTV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIqsVMQGoK0
Michael Voris is joined in-studio by Robert Sungenis and Rick DeLano, to discuss highly debated documentary, 'The Principle'. Set for release this spring, 'The Principle', is a 90 minute spectacle of cinematography which presents the most compelling 21st century scientific and cosmological data. All of this latest research raises numerous questions about Earth's place in the Universe. Could our Earth really be at the center of the entire universe? Is mankind at the center of this vast universe? And if we are...why?

that isnt true at all... because you are a staunch catholic you just dismiss early christianty, with the Gnostism and later hermeticism, all these questionds have been answered but the Church made sure to obliterate that knowlege during the middle ages with its witch hunts.

this knowledge is still there but since it is occulted, the consequences are disastrous for mankind

there is a reason why numerology/kaballah are embedded in the Bible

this documentary may well fuel fundamentalism. And if so, look no further: NWO

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Originally Posted by JohnQPublic

Science cannot answer those questions.

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Originally Posted by singular_me

...they also dismiss the existence of dark matter in their thesis, what is in my view an absolute fail as it is the Aether that produces electromagnetism (and thus Photons, Light), The Aether is the "blood" of every living cell. No atom can exist without it...

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A lot of geocentrists are aether scientists. Dark matter was invented first to keep Newtonian gravity universal (because it failed at the galaxy level without additional unseen matter), and was then needed to keep the big bang theory alive (since they could only identify 4-5% of the needed mass in the universe). So dark matter is not the same as aether. The very scientists that eliminated aether (when it was convenient to explain the failure of Michelson-Morley to detect the earth's motion around the sun) also invented dark matter (when it was convenient for them as explained).

When Earth in the center of your Universe, the existence or non existence of dark matter really has no relevance to matter. lol!

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Originally Posted by Horn

When Earth in the center of your Universe, the existence or non existence of dark matter really has no relevance to matter. lol!

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Some may still want to evoke it to keep Newtonian gravity alive.

Something for you to toy with, Herp Derp...

A Goecentric view of the solar system

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This page provides a different way of looking at the solar system. It is geocentric and shows where the Sun and all the planets (and the moon) are in the sky. It doesn't show the distances to the planets and so this version of the orrery does not have any of the usual orbit controls or centre object selector. However all other controls work as stated in the guide

http://www.theplanetstoday.com/geocentric_orrery.html

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Eating Crow: Lawrence Krauss admits he was interviewed for The Principle, BUT, they are antisemites, dinosaur & human footprints together, edited to make me a geocentrist (he has not seen the movie)... What a jerk. Then he tries to throw Kate Mulgrew under the bus...

Watch the first 8 minutes.

http://youtu.be/vkXGyy7M3gE

"...let it drift into the dustbin of history...", like Larry's movie, The Unbelievers

I am very much looking forward to the movie The Principle.

I am a scientific agnostic on so many things we cannot see or could not experience.

I am willing to give the Geocentrism theory a fair analysis.

Official cosmology - which we are expected to believe - insists on a variety of assumptions that cannot, as real science requires, be tested and proven. I'm not one keen on "just trust us."

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Originally Posted by crimethink

I am

I am

I am willing to give the Geocentrism theory a fair analysis.

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Is it Fred Flintstone, or just Fred?

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Originally Posted by Horn

Is it Fred Flintstone, or just Fred?

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I do not follow you. You believe I am a cartoon character?

On Monday "The Principle" begins its official pre-release campaign.

Our Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and website will be reflecting our just-completed staffing up under the direction of Bob Angelotti of angel com media, inc., who has put together a remarkable team to introduce "The Principle" to, first, the Chicago theater going audience, and soon, the US and the world.

Our distributor, Rocky Mountain Pictures, will be officially announcing our release date (October 24) and theater (Marcus Cinemas Addision).
I cannot begin to express my heartfelt gratitude to everyone who has stood with us through all of the amazing episodes this project has already gone through......

Believe me, the best is yet to come- in fact, it starts Monday!!
www.theprinciplemovie.com

Message from the Producer, Rick Delano

Does this mean the prelude will be removed shortly from this sites banner?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0FViwZmsGQ

THE PRINCIPLE - Rocky Mountain Pictures to Distribute Highly-Anticipated Documentary, Theatrically in North America. Film Set To Open in Chicago on October 24.

Rocky Mountain Pictures , the distributor behind such ground-breaking documentaries as Obama 2016 and Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, has picked-up the North American theatrical distribution rights for The Principle, the much-anticipated feature documentary which explores the significance of the Earth's place within the Cosmos. The film is set to open in Chicago, on October 24.

Los Angeles, CA (PRWEB) September 25, 2014
Rocky Mountain Pictures , the distributor behind such ground-breaking documentaries as Obama 2016 and Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, has picked-up the North American theatrical distribution rights for The Principle, the much-anticipated feature documentary which explores the significance of the Earth's place within the Cosmos. The film is set to open in Chicago, on October 24.
Destined to become one of the most controversial films of our time, The Principle brings before the public eye surprising results from recent large-scale surveys of our universe - surveys which disclose unexpected evidence of a preferred direction in the cosmos, aligned with our supposedly insignificant Earth.
The Principle features narration by Kate Mulgrew (Star Trek Voyager, Orange Is The New Black and Ryan’s Hope), visual animations by BUF Compagnie Paris (Life of Pi, Thor, The Matrix: Revolutions, Van Helsing, Harry Potter), and commentary from prominent scientists including George Ellis, Michio Kaku, Julian Barbour, Lawrence Krauss, and Max Tegmark.
Tracing the development of cosmology from its inception (Stonehenge, the Great Pyramid at Giza), through the great revolution of Copernicus, to the astonishing new discoveries of Earth-oriented alignments in the largest structures of our observable universe, The Principle leads us face-to-face with the question, and the challenge - are we significant within the structure of the Universe, and, if so, why and finally, what does this mean for the future of mankind?
"The question of our place in the cosmos is the greatest scientific detective story in all of the history," states Rick DeLano, the writer/producer of The Principle. "The world has been shaped by two great assertions - one places us in the center of it all and the other one relagtes us to utter insignificance. Amazingly, The Principle is the first documentary to examine this persistent puzzle at the heart of modern science."


"The Principle is important picture that presents some compelling evidence about our planet and our place in our universe," said Randy Slaughter and Ron Rodgers, partners of Rocky Mountain Pictures. "As with Obama 2016 and Expelled, we are enthused about bringing a movie to the marketplace that will get people to rethink their preconceived notions about things and have the potential to make an impact on the culture. We are very excited to be working with Rick DeLano and his team on The Principle and we believe that the documentary will have an impact on audiences everywhere.”
The Principle opens October 24 at the Marcus Addison Cinema (1555 West Lake Street) in Addison, IL, with a scheduled national expansion to follow.
The film was written and produced by Rick DeLano through his Stellar Motion Pictures, LLC and was directed by Katheryne Ktee Thomas of In Ohm Entertainment. Executive Producer is Robert Sungenis. The media marketing campaign is being spearheaded by Bob Angelotti of Angelcom Media Group, Inc.

http://youtu.be/p8cBvMCucTg

I'm interested in hearing what their thoughts are regarding the universe being infinite and how something can exist eternally. Once they get those two nailed down everything can start to make sense.

If they can't, then everything they say about our place in the universe is not important, is nothing but a dream and fantasy.

Are we significant within the structure of the Universe? I'd say no.
Are we significant in God's eyes? Yes.

What does this mean for the future of mankind? More of the same, greed, evil and the slaughter of man, while the good bows to the masters of this evil.

Will this movie have the potential to make an impact on the culture? No...unless the producers make a strong case for all good men to rise up now and destroy the evil people that have taken control of our planet.

I'll watch the movie, but I'll view it in the same category as I would a Harry Potter movie, all fantasy.

PS. I will be happy once the movie is old news and the trailer is removed from this site :)

I think this movie could actually make a difference. Could you imagine the wake-up call if 100,000,000 people around the world start to understand that the universe appears to be aligned to our little planet? This is being indicated by the evidence, and to their current embarrassment, this is what top scientists are saying in the movie. I think they realize how much they said, and the reason this film came under attack is because people are beginning to realize its potential implications. Things are about to start getting pretty hot in regards to this film. It is not fantasy, and that is why some people somewhere are really really worried about its release. Please spread the word if only as a 1st amendment issue, because I assure their will be attempts to stop this film from ever being aired. Regular people, John Q Public and Joe Sixpack, are going to be told that they cannot understand this stuff, and that they need to be protected from seeing it. We need as much exposure as possible over the next month to be sure that our one big chance to get this film out succeeds. You saw what happened to Expelled and The Passion of Christ. One major "Catholic" apologist even threatened to contact "his friends at the Bnai B'rith" about this film. Robert Sungenis has been accused of anti-semitism and was even honored as one of the Dirty Dozen by the SPLC, and he is the executive producer. Rocky Mountain Pictures released both these films also. We do have the best possible group of people on our side (or really their own side, because they will profit, but that is how capitalism works).

Regardless of what you think of the film (and I assure you your view will change once you see it), pleas help spread the word.

I have seen the final cut, and it is awesome. From a pure entertainment value it is AS GOOD or better than Cosmos. In terms of content, it is infinitely better, firstly because it was not a monologue form one scientist, but a dialog between many top scientists, and also and most importantly, they were asked the right questions.

Is the film pro-God or anti-God?

Why would an Atheist be interested in a film about something that cannot be proven, or that they cannot touch?

It's more likely we are in a computer simulation than a "God" existing.

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Originally Posted by Shami-Amourae

It's more likely we are in a computer simulation than a "God" existing.

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Or we are in a computer simulation with "God" existing.

Anything is possible.

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Originally Posted by EE_

Is the film pro-God or anti-God?

Why would an Atheist be interested in a film about something that cannot be proven, or that they can touch?

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The implications are so pro-God that the atheists are scared of the film. Some of the interviewees state an explicitly pro-God message (including John Hartnett, George Ellis, Ronald Hatch, Robert Sungenis, Robert Bennett, John Byl and Martin Selbrede). The film will also appeal to some new age types because even if they choose not to interpret the evidence in an explicitly Chrtistian manner, they will understand the significance of the the cosmos at its largest scales pointing back to having a spiritual significance. The atheists will be drawn to the film by its cast of characters (Lawrence Krauss, Michio Kaku, George Ellis, Max Tegmark, Julian Barbour, Bernard Carr) and the smell of controversy. ALL will come away with a fresh perspective on everything.

To me nothing is what is or what could be till it happens, everything changes second to second... stand or be at the wrong place at the wrong time and you could get a bullet or get wrong over by a car.....the fact that you believe does not means that it is........nothing happens till it happens.

In the Congo the Simbas just to carry a JUJU bag around their neck that was supposed to saved them from bullets, if they did die it then meant that they did not believe in their holy man..........the same way that a Christian carry a cross around their neck for "good" luck and to show their belief.

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Originally Posted by EE_

Or we are in a computer simulation with "God" existing.

Anything is possible.

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That's true too. God could be a janitor named Joe wearing a VR set (the Universe) on his lunch break for all we know.

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Originally Posted by JohnQPublic

The implications are so pro-God that the atheists are scared of the film. Some of the interviewees state an explicitly pro-God message (including John Hartnett, George Ellis, Ronald Hatch, Robert Sungenis, Robert Bennett, John Byl and Martin Selbrede). The film will also appeal to some new age types because even if they choose not to interpret the evidence in an explicitly Chrtistian manner, they will understand the significance of the the cosmos at its largest scales pointing back to having a spiritual significance. The atheists will be drawn to the film by its cast of characters (Lawrence Krauss, Michio Kaku, George Ellis, Max Tegmark, Julian Barbour, Bernard Carr) and the smell of controversy. ALL will come away with a fresh perspective on everything.

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Someone has to stop this propaganda! There can be no God!

Please God, don't let Ben Stein be in this movie.

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Originally Posted by Santa

Please God, don't let Ben Stein be in this movie.

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Nope. No Ben Stein. See, God does give you what you want. :)

didn't you john work on this movie to help people be able to see it

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Originally Posted by mick silver

didn't you john work on this movie to help people be able to see it

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I still am!

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Originally Posted by Shami-Amourae

It's more likely we are in a computer simulation than a "God" existing.

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How can a computer simulation exist without a programmer, or a "God"?

Atheism tries to avert the paradox by ignoring it, or by assuming that logic will solve it sometime in the future
after science has accumulated enough knowledge,...

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Originally Posted by JohnQPublic

The film is set to open in Chicago, on October 24.

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Any word on DVD or Pay-Per-View (web) release date? Those of us in the rural parts likely won't be able to see it in a theater.

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Originally Posted by EE_

Why would an Atheist be interested in a film about something that cannot be proven, or that they cannot touch?

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Atheists typically believe in a great many things that cannot be proven or they cannot touch. Darwinist evolution, for example.

Sadly, this movie will appeal to people largely based on their already-existing belief system. If one hates God, one will be "offended" by this movie. If one loves God, one will likely enjoy it.

For me, this is something for me to further enjoy and appreciate the greatness of God's design.

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Originally Posted by EE_

Someone has to stop this propaganda! There can be no God!

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Everyone has a god: money, government, celebrities, sex, themselves. Or the real One.

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Originally Posted by EE_

PS. I will be happy once the movie is old news and the trailer is removed from this site :)

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Praise the Lord

I was interested in it in the beginning, but now I feel like I have been overexposed to it.

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Originally Posted by Neuro

I was interested in it in the beginning, but now I feel like I have been overexposed to it.

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It does take up page space and acts like a landmine plus being annoying for us here while growing visibly older dealing with it!

But it also our dear and beloved slum lords sandbox, and we (members) are here only at his convenience and pleasure!

:)

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Originally Posted by Dogman

It does take up page space and acts like a landmine plus being annoying for us here while growing visibly older dealing with it!

But it also our dear and beloved slum lords sandbox !

:)

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That, and its in the form of an all seeing masonic eye.