Geocentrism

[JohnQPublic]

I think some here do not fully know what the thesis of this film is.

From what I know so far, with the entire movie not being released yet, they never claim that the "earth is at the center" of the universe. I used that term loosely but they do not specifically claim the "center" idea.

I do not know much at all about cosmology, but their thesis seems plausible to me and I respect them for having the courage to put it forward. The authors of the film are being persecuted by the Zionist establishment including the Catholic Zionist establishment. The only thing I do not understand is the real reason Dr. Sungenis and Mr. Delano went to Hollywood and sought the expertise of the mainly Zionist film makers there. I can understand their wanting the material made into a very high-quality professionally directed movie, but it seems that is obtainable elsewhere.

Nothing good comes out of Hollywood.

The film was largely independently made. It did not involve any large Hollywood studios (or any for that matter). It was made on a pretty small budget. Rick Delano is a traditional Catholic, and just happens to live in the LA area. He was in the music business previously (in finance I think). Rick kept very tight control of the content of the film. The only Hollywood guy involved is another Catholic who was part of promoting The Passion of Christ. It was a small enough production that until recently no one even knew about it. Now that it is going to release, more Hollywood channels need to be consulted. Rocky Mountain Pictures is an independent distribution channel.

[JohnQPublic]

Scientists can only begin to understand very small pieces of larger puzzle. Until they can answer the ultimate questions, they know nothing and their theories about the universe are worthless.
The ultimate questions are:
Why does the universe exist?
How can the universe be infinate?
How can something exist with no beginning?
How can something be created without a creator?

Oh, and Stephan Hawking is a shithead and a liar that has many people fooled.

Science cannot answer those questions. But they claim to try.

I think Hawking has himself fooled. But he is not stupid, and I do not think he is necessarily a liar. Many mainstream scientists want to maintain the philosophical view they threaded into their theories, and they are willing to believe a lot of bunk to keep it going (dark energy, dark matter, inflation, multiverse, etc.). They invented all this stuff and ideas to maintain the status quo. If they did not the big bang theory would have collapsed under the weight of evidence a long time ago. So, as each failure comes along, they invent something new that cannot be tested.

[Horn]

they never claim that the "earth is at the center" of the universe.

And when a quasar explodes on the opposite side of alpha-centari, the redistribution effect of gravity center in the universe makes possible those levitating gurus in India.

[EE_]

Science cannot answer those questions. But they claim to try.

I think Hawking has himself fooled. But he is not stupid, and I do not think he is necessarily a liar. Many mainstream scientists want to maintain the philosophical view they threaded into their theories, and they are willing to believe a lot of bunk to keep it going (dark energy, dark matter, inflation, multiverse, etc.). They invented all this stuff and ideas to maintain the status quo. If they did not the big bang theory would have collapsed under the weight of evidence a long time ago. So, as each failure comes along, they invent something new that cannot be tested.

Exactly! When something is unanswerable, people invent their own answers. Until then, nothing really makes sense.

[JohnQPublic]

They need to keep the Pope alive...

Sorry, Horn. A lot of geocentrists are Protestant, such as Gerardus Buow, Martin Selbrede, and John Byl. It is an issue of interest to all Christians.

[Horn]

geocentrist - egocentric

notice any similarities?

Luv you for our differences, John.

[singular_me]

watching but dont know if I will finish it as it has a "church" undertone.... Delano lauds the church for funding sciences in the past ...

they also dismiss the existence of dark matter in their thesis, what is in my view an absolute fail as it is the Aether that produces electromagnetism (and thus Photons, Light), The Aether is the "blood" of every living cell. No atom can exist without it. And that is why the Church went after Alchemy, as it is a science that includes the Aether in its theories. As a result progress has been delayed by centuries.

also look for: Geocentrism - The Coming Scientific Revolution, on youtube with same guys

ChurchMilitantTV

Michael Voris is joined in-studio by Robert Sungenis and Rick DeLano, to discuss highly debated documentary, 'The Principle'. Set for release this spring, 'The Principle', is a 90 minute spectacle of cinematography which presents the most compelling 21st century scientific and cosmological data. All of this latest research raises numerous questions about Earth's place in the Universe. Could our Earth really be at the center of the entire universe? Is mankind at the center of this vast universe? And if we are...why?

[singular_me]

that isnt true at all... because you are a staunch catholic you just dismiss early christianty, with the Gnostism and later hermeticism, all these questionds have been answered but the Church made sure to obliterate that knowlege during the middle ages with its witch hunts.

this knowledge is still there but since it is occulted, the consequences are disastrous for mankind

there is a reason why numerology/kaballah are embedded in the Bible

this documentary may well fuel fundamentalism. And if so, look no further: NWO

Science cannot answer those questions.

[JohnQPublic]

...they also dismiss the existence of dark matter in their thesis, what is in my view an absolute fail as it is the Aether that produces electromagnetism (and thus Photons, Light), The Aether is the "blood" of every living cell. No atom can exist without it...

A lot of geocentrists are aether scientists. Dark matter was invented first to keep Newtonian gravity universal (because it failed at the galaxy level without additional unseen matter), and was then needed to keep the big bang theory alive (since they could only identify 4-5% of the needed mass in the universe). So dark matter is not the same as aether. The very scientists that eliminated aether (when it was convenient to explain the failure of Michelson-Morley to detect the earth's motion around the sun) also invented dark matter (when it was convenient for them as explained).

[Horn]

When Earth in the center of your Universe, the existence or non existence of dark matter really has no relevance to matter. lol!