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11 Reasons Why You Must Own Physical Gold and Silver
11 Reasons Why You Must Own Physical Gold and Silver
Per: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-1...norance-part-i
- It took 192 years for the country to accumulate $1 trillion in debt. It has taken us 30 years to accumulate the next $16 trillion of debt. We now add $1 trillion of debt per year.
- If the Federal government was required to use GAAP accounting, the annual deficit would amount to $6.7 trillion per year.
- The fiscal gap of unfunded future liabilities for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and government pensions is $200 trillion.
- Using realistic growth assumptions adds another $6 trillion of state and local government unfunded pension benefits to the equation.
- The Federal government has increased their annual spending from $1.8 trillion during Bill Clinton’s last year in office to $3.8 trillion today, a 110% increase. The population has increased by 12% over that same time frame, and real GDP has advanced by 25% since 2000.
- Defense spending has increased from $358 billion in 2000 to $831 billion today, despite the fact that no country on earth can challenge us militarily.
- The average Baby Boomer will receive $300,000 more than they contributed to Social Security and Medicare over their lifetime. Over 10,000 Boomers per day will turn 65 for the next 17 years.
- The Social Security lockbox is filled with IOUs. The funds collected from paychecks over the last 80 years were spent by Congress on wars of choice, bridges to nowhere, and thousands of other vote buying ventures.
- A normalization of interest rates to long-term averages would double or triple the interest on the national debt and increase our annual deficits by at least 30%.
- Obamacare and the unintended consequences of Obamacare will add tens of trillions to our national debt. The initial budget projections for Medicare and Medicaid showed only a modest financial impact on the financial situation of the country. How did that work out?
- Entitlement spending in 2003 was $1.3 trillion. Entitlement spending in 2008 was $1.7 trillion. Entitlement spending in 2013 was $2.2 trillion. Entitlement spending in 2018 will be $2.8 trillion, as these programs are on automatic pilot.
Executive summary: the US dollar will be massively debased/devalued over the next 10-20 years, barring a currency crisis in the interim. There is no organic growth within the present economic paradigm. Only nominal asset prices can increase while real asset values will decrease.
Solution: Own physical gold and silver in preference to fiat dollars and dollar-denominated assets.
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I agree.
But it amazes me how many are so ignorant to this reality. And even when confronted with it, will then deny it. Fucktards they are.
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You can ignore reality but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
Alisa Rosenbaum AKA Ayn Rand
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The USA ran out of silver to produce dollars...so congress changed the definition...it has the power to make rules...not LAW.
The oil is already running out now...everything is....The USA is at the top of the global system...you will be the last to feel...what those below are feeling being annihilated by deflation to supply the inflation you all are currently floating around in.
It been running out since 2005...which lead to the collapse in 2008 to the cover point in 2009 up to here.
The USA has been collapsing rapidly since 2000...2001 collapse led to the 2003 cover to the 2008 collapse to the 2009 cover.
imagine jumping out of a airplane and that is shorting a stock...and when you pull the rip cord...that is the cover.
imagine you step out of the airplane...and gravity is weird and it sends you rocketing to the ground...and you panic an pull the rip cord...but too late...and you bury yourself on impact.
that is what is coming.
“Our country will, for example, at some point, face a major cyber event that will have a serious effect on our lives, our economy, and the everyday functioning of our society,”--August 27, 2013...Janet Napolitano, Outgoing U.S. Homeland Security Secretary.
You need a functional system to conduct trade.
Make no mistake...the electronic system...is fragile beyond belief...its been a miracle so far how far we made it.
Kiss the Internet goodbye.
Then what are you going to do?...Live till the day you die waiting for the lights to come back on?
Its all not built to last.
Its disintegrating faster than its integrating.
exponentially decaying faster than its exponentially growing.
deflating faster then its inflating
returning into thin air faster than its being created out of it.
Current US dollar coins are copper...they are worth way more than a federal reserve note at this point...or a electromagnetic polarity differential on a hard disk platter.
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mamboni
It took 192 years for the country to accumulate $1 trillion in debt.
FALSE!
The reason is that the 14th amendment emancipated the present government from the U.S. constitution. That was 1868. To date that new government has only had 145 years to amass the present debt. The previous governments debt of $346,681,016 is not included (if your father is in debt do you include his debt in yours?)
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Originally Posted by
palani
FALSE!
The reason is that the 14th amendment emancipated the present government from the U.S. constitution. That was 1868. To date that new government has only had 145 years to amass the present debt. The previous governments debt of $346,681,016 is not included (if your father is in debt do you include his debt in yours?)
False!!!!
There is no new government and there never has been....its always been the same US federal government.
No, the constitution is still intact. The government never enmancipated from the Constitution. The 14th amendment is just that......an amendment to the US Constitution, not an enmancipation (or to be free from).
To free itself would be to eliminate the US Constitution altogether thus eliminating the 14th amendment along with it.............. throwing the baby out with the bath water so to speak!
What the 14th does is give the US federal government "subjects" of its own where before the US government didnt have "subjects". The US federal government had territories and such, but these territories had governments and citiznes of their own not in any way related to the status of the union states and the People of the United States of America.
The federal government couldnt dictate law to the citizens of the territories......see Peurto Rico as an example. Its a country all its own having citizens all its own. However, citizens of Puerto Rico can claim benefits of the federal government through application just like any of the People of the United States of America can. Which once that happens then that person is treated just as any US citizen.....they can vote like Puerto Rico people do and can.
A new set of rules and regulations for these new subjects that fall under the "Civil Law" form, from the Common Law form the US Constitution is based on.....and thats where you derail and get all confused palani.
It would help you look less foolish palani if you would read the statutes!
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Originally Posted by
7th trump
False!!!!
There is no new government and there never has been....its always been the same US federal government.
Following the (un)civil war the southern states could not be enticed to 'voluntarily' return to Washington. They were encouraged to do so at the point of a bayonet. So there is not 'the same' federal government. There is ONLY the emancipated federal government and its constitution IS the 14th amendment.
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7th trump
No, the constitution is still intact.
A house may still stand but is vacant.
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7th trump
The government never enmancipated from the Constitution.
I hope not the way YOU spelled it. Tell me ... why is $346,681,016 (the debt of the U.S. government funding the (un)civil war) unchanged since 1878?
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Originally Posted by
7th trump
The 14th amendment is just that......an amendment to the US Constitution, not an enmancipation (or to be free from).
You did know that the function of an amendment is to AMEND didn't you? And where is the prohibition on an amendment AMENDING to such an extent that the original rules are no longer valid?
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7th trump
To free itself would be to eliminate the US Constitution altogether thus eliminating the 14th amendment along with it.............. throwing the baby out with the bath water so to speak!
Nonsense. Using this logic when prohibition was repealed all legislation incorporated in the statutes would also have been repealed because this legislation was tainted with prohibition era politics. After stating this I am now prepared for YOU to twist what I wrote into something I never intended .. which is what you seem to do frequently.
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7th trump
What the 14th does is give the US federal government "subjects" of its own where before the US government didnt have "subjects".
Why is DUE PROCESS repeated in the 14th amendment when it is incorporated in the organic constitution? What effect does a notice that you will not pay 'insurgent' debts have 3 years after the war ended? What 'insurgent' debt might have been intended? (BIG HINT ... Look around the world and find out where ALL the debt of the world has been concentrated)
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7th trump
It would help you look less foolish palani if you would read the statutes!
I am less concerned with looking less foolish than appearing to be NICE!
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so tell us all if you own silver an gold hypertiger
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mick silver
so tell us all if you own silver an gold hypertiger
While Ponce is long on TP, Twisted Kitty is long on kitty litter.
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Originally Posted by
palani
Following the (un)civil war the southern states could not be enticed to 'voluntarily' return to Washington. They were encouraged to do so at the point of a bayonet. So there is not 'the same' federal government. There is ONLY the emancipated federal government and its constitution IS the 14th amendment.
A house may still stand but is vacant.
I hope not the way YOU spelled it. Tell me ... why is $346,681,016 (the debt of the U.S. government funding the (un)civil war) unchanged since 1878?
You did know that the function of an amendment is to AMEND didn't you? And where is the prohibition on an amendment AMENDING to such an extent that the original rules are no longer valid?
Nonsense. Using this logic when prohibition was repealed all legislation incorporated in the statutes would also have been repealed because this legislation was tainted with prohibition era politics. After stating this I am now prepared for YOU to twist what I wrote into something I never intended .. which is what you seem to do frequently.
Why is DUE PROCESS repeated in the 14th amendment when it is incorporated in the organic constitution?
I am less concerned with looking less foolish than appearing to be NICE!
There is no new government....all the union states have returned to their union status.
There was no orginal rules to begin with....involuntary slavery is outlawed.
Nonsense huh?
An amendment cannot eliminate that which makes it exist.
Your "prohibition" thingy is an example of you trying to fit square pegs in round holes.
The 14th amendment didnt make a new government. It made subjects for the federal government where none existed before.
What does the 14th say?
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Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Where is the wording suggesting as you say the 14th eliminates the original government and replaces it with a different government.
Do you understand what form of law the "civil law" is from the "common law"?
We are talking form.
Look up "United States Civil Law" sometime and get a clue!!!
Heres a clue.........its the difference between knowing what is "democracy" from a "republic".
Before the 14th there wasnt a civil law form because there wasnt any federal subjects in existence.
The government adopted the roman civil law form because they now had subjects who couldnt be their own king and rule themsleves as a republic from of government.
You are going to use "due process" as your means of debate?
Are you this stupid?
Thank you for showing the proof the US federal government has never been removed by the 14th amendment.
Theres nothing like giving yourself an embarrassing black eye in a debate.....but I'll take what ever you are willing to give me.
Do you think the government was going to take away "due process" from the now free'd slaves.
Heres a bit of history about the 14th.
The 14th may have free'd the slave from involuntary servitude but it never brought them up to the level of the People.
Not one state, not even one northern yankee state, allowed the free'd slave negroes as an equal to the white people.
Heres a clue in statutory form.
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42 USC § 1982 - Property rights of citizens
All citizens of the United States shall have the same right, in every State and Territory, as is enjoyed by white citizens thereof to inherit, purchase, lease, sell, hold, and convey real and personal property.
Why is this even an issue if the free'd slave was an equal after being free'd?
Because they werent an equal and why there is such an Act called the Civil Rights Act of 1866.
Why is there the Bill of Rights and a Civil Rights Act palani?
Are you sure you want to debate me palani?
You are in way over your head grasshopper.
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7th trump
There is no new government....all the union states have returned to their union status.
No. The several States are administrative subdivisions of the federal government.
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7th trump
There was no orginal rules to begin with....involuntary slavery is outlawed.
Slavery is still slavery. An adjective simply acts to reduce the population. As in 'all men' as opposed to 'all short men'.
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7th trump
Nonsense huh?
An amendment cannot eliminate that which makes it exist.
Your short sightedness is going to lead you to poor decisions. You admitted yourself that the 14th amendment makes a new class called a 'subject'. Do old rules apply to something newly created?
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7th trump
Your "prohibition" thingy is an example of you trying to fit square pegs in round holes.
No. Rather it is an example of the trouble you may find yourself in by relying upon legislation. Here is another one. County attorneys were eliminated in Iowa in 1971 by constitutional amendment. Why does each county still have an attorney on the payroll?
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7th trump
The 14th amendment didnt make a new government. It made subjects for the federal government where none existed before.
YET BY A STRANGE COINCIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE NEVER BOTHERED TO EXPLAIN ... WHY IS THE ORGANIC NATIONAL DEBT FIXED AT $346,681,016?????
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7th trump
What does the 14th say?
If it speaks to you then that is proof you are delusional.
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7th trump
Where is the wording suggesting as you say the 14th eliminates the original government and replaces it with a different government.
Specifically? Right here:
"But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void."
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7th trump
Do you understand what form of law the "civil law" is from the "common law"?
Do YOU understand that CIVILIZATION is the process of making a common law crime civil?
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7th trump
We are talking form.
I am not TALKING at all!!!
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7th trump
Look up "United States Civil Law" sometime and get a clue!!!
Heres a clue.........its the difference between knowing what is "democracy" from a "republic".
Before the 14th there wasnt a civil law form because there wasnt any federal subjects in existence.
The government adopted the roman civil law form because they now had subjects who couldnt be their own king and rule themsleves as a republic from of government.
I suppose you are touting this as a BENEFIT?
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7th trump
You are going to use "due process" as your means of debate?
"MEANS OF DEBATE"???? Do we need MEANS to debate?
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7th trump
Are you this stupid?
I am not as nice as you!!!
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7th trump
Thank you for showing the proof the US federal government has never been removed by the 14th amendment.
Theres nothing like giving yourself an embarrassing black eye in a debate.....but I'll take what ever you are willing to give me.
Is DUE PROCESS under the 14th amendment the same as DUE PROCESS under the 5th amendment?
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7th trump
Do you think the government was going to take away "due process" from the now free'd slaves.
Thank you for making my point. If DUE PROCESS had applied to 14th amendment 'citizens' (aka freed slaves) there would be no need to repeat the concept would there?
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7th trump
Heres a bit of history about the 14th.
The 14th may have free'd the slave from involuntary servitude but it never brought them up to the level of the People.
So now you actually come out and admit that the 14th amendment forms a new government with none of the baggage of the organic constitution? SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING ON ABOUT TWITT?
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7th trump
Not one state, not even one northern yankee state, allowed the free'd slave negroes as an equal to the white people.
This is a stupid statement that is false. There were many northern states that admitted blacks to citizenship. NONE OF THEM ADDRESSED A SEPARATE CITIZENSHIP CLASS CONSISTING OF FREED SLAVE NEGROES. You were either a citizen or you were not. Your attempt to characterize government acts lacks merit and is ABRASIVE.
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7th trump
Heres a clue in statutory form.
Reverting to your religious source again?
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7th trump
Why is this even an issue if the free'd slave was an equal after being free'd?
Because they werent an equal and why there is such an Act called the Civil Rights Act of 1866.
Why is there the Bill of Rights and a Civil Rights Act palani?
Duhhhhh!!!! 1866 ... 1868 ... old government.... new government ... can't even follow this simple topic?
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7th trump
Are you sure you want to debate me palani?
I don't debate the insane. I might be mistaken as one myself.
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7th trump
You are in way over your head grasshopper.
Keep studying your statutes and you will find that it is you that is in over his head!!!!
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And the battle rages: duck versus uberkitty versus palani. When the dust clears, there is only gold and silver.
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mamboni
When the dust clears, there is only gold and silver.
Neither of which is subject to OWNERSHIP in the communist plane.
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palani
Neither of which is subject to OWNERSHIP in the communist plane.
True. This could be a problem in the future. To paraphrase Richard Nixon: "We are all kulaks now!"
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No, the several states are not subdivisions of the federal government.
Iowa is not a subdivision, but the "state of Iowa" is.....two seperate jurisdictional planes.
Here....let the courts explain it to you. Hopefully being lost within the law will come to a minimum for you.
Keep in mind what I said about the Bill of Rights and the Civil Rights of 1866.
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We have in our political system a government of the United States and a government of each of the several States. Each one of these governments is distinct from the others, and each has citizens of it’s own...”United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)
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“...he was not a citizen of the United States, he was a citizen and voter of the State,...” “One may be a citizen of a State an yet not a citizen of the United States”.
McDonel v. The State, 90 Ind. 320 (1883)
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“That there is a citizenship of the United States and citizenship of a state,...”
Tashiro v. Jordan, 201 Cal. 236 (1927)
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"A citizen of the United States is a citizen of the federal government ..."
Kitchens v. Steele, 112 F.Supp 383
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“The governments of the United States and of each state of the several states are distinct from one another. The rights of a citizen under one may be quite different from those which he has under the other”.
Colgate v. Harvey, 296 U.S. 404; 56 S.Ct. 252 (1935)
The several states are not subdivisions of the federal government palani.........the courts prove you wrong!
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“There is a difference between privileges and immunities belonging to the citizens of the United States as such, and those belonging to the citizens of each state as such”.
Ruhstrat v. People, 57 N.E. 41 (1900)
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“The rights and privileges, and immunities which the fourteenth constitutional amendment and Rev. St. section 1979 [U.S. Comp. St. 1901, p. 1262], for its enforcement, were designated to protect, are such as belonging to citizens of the United States as such, and not as citizens of a state”.
Wadleigh v. Newhall 136 F. 941 (1905)
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“...rights of national citizenship as distinct from the fundamental or natural rights inherent in state citizenship”.
Madden v. Kentucky, 309 U.S. 83: 84 L.Ed. 590 (1940)
"US citizens" as defined by the 14th amendment are clearly different from the People.
It went right over your head, but did you catch that last one where the court recognized "natural rights" being inherent of state citizenship and not federal 14th citizenship (us citizen)?
Has a light bulb turned on yet?
Why do you think the 10th amendment is worded like this?
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
What was inherent to state citizenship again................natural rights!
Remember me telling you about the difference between the president and a governor?
Who really holds the power of the People?
The several states jurisdictional plane is where its all at palani.
Governors are called governor because thats who really governs.......not some government formed by the several states that deal with international law and treaties having a president that is restricted by the Constitution.
Your problem is your legal eyes are foggy to see the definitional line seperating the two jurisdictions.........its all about rights palani.
Now do you know why I told Ares in another thread to defend yourself from the IRS and to stop taxes being taken from your pay check you'll need to know what makes your earnings to transform into "wages"?
Like I say...you, palani, are lost in the law from following conspiracy internet nut jobs who are just as lost in the law as you are.
There is no shadow government or any other government as you beleive.
There are two classes of citizenship under one existing government.
The blind leading the blind is more appropriate in describing you palani.
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Did somebody say: "RELEASE THE KRAKEN!"
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Uncle Salty
I agree.
But it amazes me how many are so ignorant to this reality. And even when confronted with it, will then deny it. Fucktards they are.
The vast majority of folk cannot understand inflation not do they percieve it as abnoxious until it rises to very high levels. This has been the case in countless societies. Lack of education in basic economics and money management aggravates the problem.
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Originally Posted by
7th trump
No, the several states are not subdivisions of the federal government.
Iowa is not a subdivision, but the "state of Iowa" is.....two seperate jurisdictional planes.
Cite please?
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7th trump
Here....let the courts explain it to you. Hopefully being lost within the law will come to a minimum for you.
Keep in mind what I said about the Bill of Rights and the Civil Rights of 1866.
The several states are not subdivisions of the federal government palani.........the courts prove you wrong!
Until the 'courts' are willing to grab a rifle to enforce their opinions then they really don't amount for much do they?
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7th trump
"US citizens" as defined by the 14th amendment are clearly different from the People.
It went right over your head, but did you catch that last one where the court recognized "natural rights" being inherent of state citizenship and not federal 14th citizenship (us citizen)?
A prairie dog has an inherent right to dig a burrow. That doesn't mean that a horse can come along with an inherent right to step in it and break a leg.
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7th trump
Has a light bulb turned on yet?
Why do you think the 10th amendment is worded like this?
Why do you think the word 'state' has been hijacked here http://www.scribd.com/doc/63526884/R...ome-Tax-at-281 [13 stat 306 located at the bottom of the page]?
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7th trump
What was inherent to state citizenship again................natural rights!
Except you have no state to derive natural rights from. You occupy a political subdivision of the federal government.
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Last man standing?.........silver and gold............and tp, of course.
V
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mamboni
The vast majority of folk cannot understand inflation not do they percieve it as abnoxious until it rises to very high levels. This has been the case in countless societies. Lack of education in basic economics and money management aggravates the problem.
"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation."
John Adams
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Libertarian_Guard
"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation."
John Adams
Smart fella that John Adams was!
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Libertarian_Guard
"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation."
John Adams
And that is why you will never see basic math being taught to students.
All the garbage math or unecessary math till it shoots out your ears.
But basic math credits debits and coinage will NEVER be taught.
But it is standard teaching ciricumlum in the chabad schools
