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False!!!!

There is no new government and there never has been....its always been the same US federal government.
Following the (un)civil war the southern states could not be enticed to 'voluntarily' return to Washington. They were encouraged to do so at the point of a bayonet. So there is not 'the same' federal government. There is ONLY the emancipated federal government and its constitution IS the 14th amendment.
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No, the constitution is still intact.
A house may still stand but is vacant.
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The government never enmancipated from the Constitution.
I hope not the way YOU spelled it. Tell me ... why is $346,681,016 (the debt of the U.S. government funding the (un)civil war) unchanged since 1878?
Quote Originally Posted by 7th trump View Post
The 14th amendment is just that......an amendment to the US Constitution, not an enmancipation (or to be free from).
You did know that the function of an amendment is to AMEND didn't you? And where is the prohibition on an amendment AMENDING to such an extent that the original rules are no longer valid?
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To free itself would be to eliminate the US Constitution altogether thus eliminating the 14th amendment along with it.............. throwing the baby out with the bath water so to speak!
Nonsense. Using this logic when prohibition was repealed all legislation incorporated in the statutes would also have been repealed because this legislation was tainted with prohibition era politics. After stating this I am now prepared for YOU to twist what I wrote into something I never intended .. which is what you seem to do frequently.
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What the 14th does is give the US federal government "subjects" of its own where before the US government didnt have "subjects".
Why is DUE PROCESS repeated in the 14th amendment when it is incorporated in the organic constitution? What effect does a notice that you will not pay 'insurgent' debts have 3 years after the war ended? What 'insurgent' debt might have been intended? (BIG HINT ... Look around the world and find out where ALL the debt of the world has been concentrated)
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It would help you look less foolish palani if you would read the statutes!
I am less concerned with looking less foolish than appearing to be NICE!