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[palani]

There is no new government....all the union states have returned to their union status.

No. The several States are administrative subdivisions of the federal government.

There was no orginal rules to begin with....involuntary slavery is outlawed.

Slavery is still slavery. An adjective simply acts to reduce the population. As in 'all men' as opposed to 'all short men'.

Nonsense huh?
An amendment cannot eliminate that which makes it exist.

Your short sightedness is going to lead you to poor decisions. You admitted yourself that the 14th amendment makes a new class called a 'subject'. Do old rules apply to something newly created?

Your "prohibition" thingy is an example of you trying to fit square pegs in round holes.

No. Rather it is an example of the trouble you may find yourself in by relying upon legislation. Here is another one. County attorneys were eliminated in Iowa in 1971 by constitutional amendment. Why does each county still have an attorney on the payroll?

The 14th amendment didnt make a new government. It made subjects for the federal government where none existed before.

YET BY A STRANGE COINCIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE NEVER BOTHERED TO EXPLAIN ... WHY IS THE ORGANIC NATIONAL DEBT FIXED AT $346,681,016??

What does the 14th say?

If it speaks to you then that is proof you are delusional.

Where is the wording suggesting as you say the 14th eliminates the original government and replaces it with a different government.

Specifically? Right here:

"But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void."

Do you understand what form of law the "civil law" is from the "common law"?

Do YOU understand that CIVILIZATION is the process of making a common law crime civil?

We are talking form.

I am not TALKING at all!!!

Look up "United States Civil Law" sometime and get a clue!!!
Heres a clue.........its the difference between knowing what is "democracy" from a "republic".
Before the 14th there wasnt a civil law form because there wasnt any federal subjects in existence.
The government adopted the roman civil law form because they now had subjects who couldnt be their own king and rule themsleves as a republic from of government.

I suppose you are touting this as a BENEFIT?

You are going to use "due process" as your means of debate?

"MEANS OF DEBATE"? Do we need MEANS to debate?

Are you this stupid?

I am not as nice as you!!!

Thank you for showing the proof the US federal government has never been removed by the 14th amendment.
Theres nothing like giving yourself an embarrassing black eye in a debate.....but I'll take what ever you are willing to give me.

Is DUE PROCESS under the 14th amendment the same as DUE PROCESS under the 5th amendment?

Do you think the government was going to take away "due process" from the now free'd slaves.

Thank you for making my point. If DUE PROCESS had applied to 14th amendment 'citizens' (aka freed slaves) there would be no need to repeat the concept would there?

Heres a bit of history about the 14th.
The 14th may have free'd the slave from involuntary servitude but it never brought them up to the level of the People.

So now you actually come out and admit that the 14th amendment forms a new government with none of the baggage of the organic constitution? SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING ON ABOUT TWITT?

Not one state, not even one northern yankee state, allowed the free'd slave negroes as an equal to the white people.

This is a stupid statement that is false. There were many northern states that admitted blacks to citizenship. NONE OF THEM ADDRESSED A SEPARATE CITIZENSHIP CLASS CONSISTING OF FREED SLAVE NEGROES. You were either a citizen or you were not. Your attempt to characterize government acts lacks merit and is ABRASIVE.

Heres a clue in statutory form.

Reverting to your religious source again?

Why is this even an issue if the free'd slave was an equal after being free'd?
Because they werent an equal and why there is such an Act called the Civil Rights Act of 1866.
Why is there the Bill of Rights and a Civil Rights Act palani?

Duhhhhh!!!! 1866 ... 1868 ... old government.... new government ... can't even follow this simple topic?

Are you sure you want to debate me palani?

I don't debate the insane. I might be mistaken as one myself.

You are in way over your head grasshopper.

Keep studying your statutes and you will find that it is you that is in over his head!!!!