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    Re: Geocentrism

    I like the idea that every point in the universe is the center of the universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa View Post
    I like the idea that every point in the universe is the center of the universe.
    There would be no gravity there, only the centrifugal.



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    JQP - as the resident proponent of this theory I have several questions for you, TIA:

    1. Is the earth the center of the known universe?
    2. Is the earth rotating on its axis?
    4. Is the bible correct that the earth is ~6000 years old?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMac View Post
    JQP - as the resident proponent of this theory I have several questions for you, TIA:

    1. Is the earth the center of the known universe?
    2. Is the earth rotating on its axis?
    4. Is the bible correct that the earth is ~6000 years old?
    1. Yes
    2. No
    4 (?). I don't know. I am very skeptical about it benig 4 billion years old.

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    Re: Geocentrism

    I sure hope I do not get burnt at the stake for posting this. Oh wait...I'm not Galileo.

    http://io9.com/5464810/the-earth-rev...-sun--prove-it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirnir_ View Post
    I sure hope I do not get burnt at the stake for posting this. Oh wait...I'm not Galileo.

    http://io9.com/5464810/the-earth-rev...-sun--prove-it

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnQPublic View Post
    1. Yes
    2. No
    4 (?). I don't know. I am very skeptical about it benig 4 billion years old.
    3. Have you ever flushed a toilet bowl below the equator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horn View Post
    3. Have you ever flushed a toilet bowl below the equator?

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    Yes. I tried it in Australia. If I recall I really did not get a swirl going (and I really did not try hard on the experiment). Most scientists say the Coriolis force is not strong enough to effect water flow, but works on larger scales with things like hurricanes.

    The Coriolis force in the simplest form (Machian) is a result of relative motion of the earth and distant matter. The presence of Coriolis force, the action of the Foucalt's pendulum, flattening at the equators, etc. cannot distinguish between a rotating earth in a stationary star field and a fixed earth in a rotating star field (at least not according to Einstein and Mach, as well as many other scientists).

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    Re: Geocentrism

    Quote Originally Posted by Skirnir_ View Post
    I sure hope I do not get burnt at the stake for posting this. Oh wait...I'm not Galileo.

    http://io9.com/5464810/the-earth-rev...-sun--prove-it
    First that was attributed to Giordano Bruno, and second, that that even occurred is speculative (my understanding is there is only one source for that statement, and the source was a protestant hundreds of years later). am not saying the Church was not capable of doing this, just that the evidence it occurred is not substantiated.

    The neo-Tychonian model is basically an earth-shifted Keplerian model, which will have the exact same observational attributes. This illustrates that observations cannot prove that the earth is moving (as George Ellis said- “For instance, I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it based on observations.” ). Much like Janadele, those that put forth these arguments do not understand, and/or want to keep their beliefs intact (at any cost, including believing in infinite universes, etc.).

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