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    Re: Alex Jones taken behind the Woodshed

    Quote Originally Posted by joboo View Post
    The whole process feeds off those who willingly perpetuate the intolerance, and hatred. Why keep feeding it? Why keep legitimizing it?

    Disengage from that type of behavior from a public perspective at the very least.
    Call it tough Love,

    Typically imagining and expecting the worse will get you it, The Lucifer reference is that example.

    Creating fantasy characters called Lucifer "pure evil" then comparing real folks to them could be considered hate, but tolerance for human sacrifice is not on the menu to be tolerated.

    Also along those lines, condoning an ethnic cleansing of Palestine will get you hated, just as will removing all the jewish bankers from central Europe.

    What good has all the "free & open" communication got you there? I'll be damned if you are asking for a world of hate & Lucifer going down either path.

    Something that those using the reference Lucifer should be reminded of is in video below. What you want with pointing, you will be reciprocated with in spades.


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    Re: Alex Jones taken behind the Woodshed

    I think they key is to spread awareness without proposing any solution or action to be taken. Time is on our side, not theirs. If we are able to avoid being baited into fighting them, their position becomes more and more untenable.

    I like palani's advice: say whatever you want as long as there is a question mark at the end. Don't say "Israel is a rogue state." Say "Why is Israel allowed to have nuclear weapons, but Iran isn't?" "Why haven't they signed the non proliferation treaty?" "Why do we give them so much money?"

    This does two things. It spreads awareness and it buys time, the two key things we need.

    Statements can be argued. Positions are taken. There are two sides which fight about the issue, maybe more. The statement serves as the beginning of a line of reasoning, which usually has faulty and or bad conclusions. Don't make statements, just ask questions. Give no opinion.

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    Re: Alex Jones taken behind the Woodshed

    Why is Israel allowed to ethnically cleanse Palestine, but Hitler was not allowed to clean Europe?

    Too direct?

    Maybe Alex Jones could form the question better?

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    Re: Alex Jones taken behind the Woodshed

    Quote Originally Posted by Horn View Post
    Why is Israel allowed to ethnically cleanse Palestine, but Hitler was not allowed to clean Europe?

    Too direct?

    Maybe Alex Jones could form the question better?

    It is questionable....

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    Re: Alex Jones taken behind the Woodshed

    Quote Originally Posted by Serpo View Post
    It is questionable....
    As is this;

    'Mossad continues to use UK passports'

    English, French nationals who moved to Israel and joined IDF tell British daily a 'sexy woman' convinced them to lend their passports to Mossad; say passports returned to them a few months later with stamps from countries they never visited

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...188629,00.html
    and this;


    Position of Arab-Palestinians

    In January 2012, the Supreme Court of Israel upheld a law banning Palestinians who marry Israelis from gaining Israeli citizenship

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    Re: Alex Jones taken behind the Woodshed

    Quote Originally Posted by Horn View Post
    Alex has bills to pay, but could be done thru reasonable advertising, not koolaid.
    that still didn't stop AJ from peddling Tangy Tangerine KoolAid - while suggesting his listeners could make "7 figures" doing the same (apparently it's some sort of MLM setup ).

    Amazing health benefits of Beyond Tangy Tangerine!

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    Re: Alex Jones taken behind the Woodshed

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    Re: Alex Jones taken behind the Woodshed

    a few recent pieces re AJ:

    first 2 are from Prof James Tracy's blog:


    October 3, 2013
    With “Disinfo Wars” Project Censored Abandons Principles 104

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    Project Censored (PC), the news criticism organization made up of scholars, journalists, and activists that annually researches and selects stories overlooked or ignored by mainstream news media, has recently published a lengthy article on its website, titled, “Disinfo Wars: Alex Jones’ War on Your Mind,” by Nolan Higdon.[1]
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    October 9, 2013
    “Disinfo Wars” Author Responds 76

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    (Received October 8, 2013)
    Following the publication of my article, “DisinfoWars: Alex Jones War on Your Mind,” I was disheartened to read a blazing critique of the piece and Project Censored–who published it–from James Tracy. Given that we both worked on Censored 2014: Fearless Speech in Fateful Times, which was released just a few days before his critique, I would have assumed Tracy would have contacted Project Censored or me about the release of his article: “With ‘Disinfo Wars’ Project Censored Abandons Principles.” However, he did not and consequently released a critique chock-full of omissions and distortions.
    More…

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    Next from another author, A. Anglin:



    Tuesday, October 15, 2013

    Alex Jones Remains Silent on Golden Dawn Crackdown

    Posted on October 8, 2013 by Andrew Anglin
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    Alex Jones is not going to save America. Someone else is going to have to do it.



    When we do a search of Alex Jones’ ‘Infowars‘ website for the term ‘Golden Dawn,’ we get three results, all of which are articles from 2012, which frame the party as “Neo-Nazis” who “threaten democracy.”

    How interesting it is that Mr. Jones, who speaks incessantly about the importance of “freedom” and “patriotism” has chosen to remain completely silent, not simply on the meteoric rise of the party, but also on the Soviet-style shakedown of the Golden Dawn. Even as the mainstream international media is keeping close tabs on the situation in Greece, with dozens of articles being posted every day at major English-language outlets, Jones has yet to utter the party’s name.

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    Re: Alex Jones taken behind the Woodshed

    Quote Originally Posted by PatColo View Post
    a few recent pieces re AJ:

    first 2 are from Prof James Tracy's blog:


    October 3, 2013
    With “Disinfo Wars” Project Censored Abandons Principles 104

    Home • Tags: academe, alternative media, censorship, journalism, news media
    https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...G7z08vjhpLq0XA

    Project Censored (PC), the news criticism organization made up of scholars, journalists, and activists that annually researches and selects stories overlooked or ignored by mainstream news media, has recently published a lengthy article on its website, titled, “Disinfo Wars: Alex Jones’ War on Your Mind,” by Nolan Higdon.[1]
    More…



    October 9, 2013
    “Disinfo Wars” Author Responds 76
    [...]

    Really good discussion here with Kevin Barrett & the above article's author. I was waiting for the yarmulke-wearing elephant in the room to be discussed, which finally began @ 42:00. KBarrett noted that Project Censored is also weak in this area.

    To listen you must use the player console at http://noliesradio.org/archives/70769. It's 1 hour comm free. From KB's radio blog:

    Project Censored's Nolan Higdon defends his critique of Alex Jones

    Broadcast Monday 10/28/13 10-11 a.m. Central (1500 GMT) onNoLiesRadio.org, archived here.
    [...]

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    Guest: Nolan Higdon of Project Censored, who slammed Alex Jones in his recent article:
    Disinfo Wars: Alex Jones’ War on Your Mind

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    Alex Jones has led 9/11 truth protests at Ground Zero on 9/11 anniveraries

    James Tracy, the professor at (censored) University who has been battling the forces of censorship at (censored) University, thought Higdon's attack on Jones was out of line, and responded:

    With “Disinfo Wars” Project Censored Abandons Principles

    Professor Tracy later graciously published Higdon's rejoinder:

    “Disinfo Wars” Author Responds

    As for me, I mostly agree with James Tracy's position, so I appreciate Nolan Higdon's willingness to come on my show and exchange views.

    My own critique of Alex Jones, who I mostly admire, has gotten a lot of reads:

    Is Alex Jones a Complete Idiot?

    Posted by Kevin Barrett at 9:53 AM No comments:

    Labels: 9/11 truth, alex jones, alternative media, false flag, infowars, james tracy, media criticism, memory hole blog, nolan higdon, project censored

    A KB interview with Prof James Tracy will be posted on noliesradio tomorrow,
    James Tracy defends Alex Jones, discusses censorship of "conspiracy theories"

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    Re: Alex Jones taken behind the Woodshed

    Does anyone on the board still listen to AJ?

    I quit like 2 years ago.
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    "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
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