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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by mamboni View Post
    To whom the correct response is: "Yeah, that is the present gun law, moron. You don't get to buy a gun without a full background check. Check your facts before 'shooting' your mouth off next time."
    Their reply:

    "Obviously the background checks aren't good enough if it allows madmen like that to legally obtain a weapon.

    Common sense gun policies.... it's for the children.... fuck your rights.... yadda yadda yadda..."



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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    I can kind of see the philosophical side on this turning to the families whom begot violence ( severe punishment , beatings etc ) as a form of control over their 'tiny' people will grow those people into violent beings as adults.
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by mamboni View Post
    To whom the correct response is: "Yeah, that is the present gun law, moron. You don't get to buy a gun without a full background check. Check your facts before 'shooting' your mouth off next time."
    I'm thinking you missed that POS limey Piers Morgan the other night where he kept bringing up "40%* of gun sales (i.e. 'private sales' between individuals) are not subject to background checks."

    What to expect:

    1) 'Closing the *gun show loophole*' (in reality no such thing) whereby it will be made a FELONY to make ANY gun transaction which is not done via NICS (that's right, you cannot give one of your children or any other relative one of your guns 'off the books') - naturally as a matter of 'necessity' there will need to be a registry to keep track of all the guns being transferred.

    (NOTE: this would NOT have precluded the Oregon mall shooter from doing what he did)

    and 2) the terms 'mentally ill' and 'mentally deranged' will be expanded to include ANYONE who shows ANY interest whatsoever in those extremely evil high capacity guns which use detachable HIGH capacity magazines (if you want to defend yourself 'within your home' then a revolver is more than satisfactory).

    *I'm relatively certain this figure is at least 3 times too high
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    I'm thinking you missed that POS limey Piers Morgan the other night where he kept bringing up "40%* of gun sales (i.e. 'private sales' between individuals) are not subject to background checks."

    What to expect:

    1) 'Closing the *gun show loophole*' (in reality no such thing) whereby it will be made a FELONY to make ANY gun transaction which is not done via NICS (that's right, you cannot give your children one of your guns 'off the books')

    and 2) the terms 'mentally ill' and 'mentally deranged' will be expanded to include ANYONE who shows ANY interest whatsoever in those extremely evil high capacity guns which use detachable HIGH capacity magazines (if you want to defend yourself 'within your home' then a revolver is more than satisfactory).

    *I'm relatively certain this figure is at least 3 times to high
    Dontcha just love the phrase "gun show loophole"?

    Uh yeah, you don't have rights; just loopholes.

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Meanwhile..............

    A knife works just as well as a gun.

    http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story

    December 14, 2012
    BEIJING (Reuters) - A knife-wielding man slashed 22 children and an adult at an elementary school in central China on Friday

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    We talk about this being a false flag, but it's difficult to understand exactly how they go about doing such a thing. How do we know that the killer really killed his family members, himself and even others at the school? Are they capable of staging the whole thing? What if "they" just put this family in a witness relocation system?

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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by StreetsOfGold View Post
    Meanwhile..............

    A knife works just as well as a gun.

    http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-chi...,5592318.story


    December 14, 2012
    BEIJING (Reuters) - A knife-wielding man slashed 22 children and an adult at an elementary school in central China on Friday
    Knives will be next after guns - we always follow the UK
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    I'm thinking you missed that POS limey Piers Morgan the other night where he kept bringing up "40%* of gun sales (i.e. 'private sales' between individuals) are not subject to background checks."

    What to expect:

    1) 'Closing the *gun show loophole*' (in reality no such thing) whereby it will be made a FELONY to make ANY gun transaction which is not done via NICS (that's right, you cannot give one of your children or any other relative one of your guns 'off the books') - naturally as a matter of 'necessity' there will need to be a registry to keep track of all the guns being transferred.

    (NOTE: this would NOT have precluded the Oregon mall shooter from doing what he did)

    and 2) the terms 'mentally ill' and 'mentally deranged' will be expanded to include ANYONE who shows ANY interest whatsoever in those extremely evil high capacity guns which use detachable HIGH capacity magazines (if you want to defend yourself 'within your home' then a revolver is more than satisfactory).

    *I'm relatively certain this figure is at least 3 times too high

    Can't do all that without sensible gun registration on the national level. This way we know who has what and can track all movements
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by sirgonzo420 View Post
    Dontcha just love the phrase "gun show loophole"?

    Uh yeah, you don't have rights; just loopholes.
    Dunno about the gun shows in your locale, but the gun show tables at gun shows here are <1% private sellers with FFLs (and anything but guns) making up the bulk, and the private sellers who are there have a tiny bit of over-priced crap which very few people are interested in. In the recent past I haven't seen a single piece offered for sale by a private seller at a gun show that I'd be remotely interested in even if I was in desperate need.
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    Re: new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine05 View Post
    We talk about this being a false flag, but it's difficult to understand exactly how they go about doing such a thing. How do we know that the killer really killed his family members, himself and even others at the school? Are they capable of staging the whole thing? What if "they" just put this family in a witness relocation system?
    Dead bodies have less a chance of talking than people in witness protection, but your point is well taken.

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