illinois senate president to introduce bill banning ALL modern firearms

[EE_]

If these bans really do take hold, I know no one here will be registering firearms.
These new laws however, may really hurt the sport shooting industry. People will be affraid to take banned guns out of their homes or travel with them. The only place to shoot may be on your own property.

[willie pete]

You guys don't get it, all that they are doing now is ringing the bell at the front door.....they first have put it issue infront of you so that when it actually happens it won't give you a heart attack and you do something crazy.....get the cattle used to something so that when something bad happens they will do nothing because they are used to it.... like getting a dog used to the sound of a firearm and not being scared.

I "get it" and I can sum your paragraph up in one word→ "conditioning" ..remember this guy is a member of the illnois state senate, the illinois state senate doesn't write law for the nation, and it wasn't too long ago under some clown named clinton's administration and a democratic controlled house & senate, an assault rifle ban was tucked in the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, it expired after 10 years.....the "conditioning" started a long time ago, what's important is to let these congressional crooks know how you feel, in a diplomatic and polite way, and that you'll vote'em out if they don't come around...

[Hatha Sunahara]

No doubt this Illinois attempt is a trial run to see what will happen. A trial run. See how the politicians test the waters?

They expect to get 70% of the guns by people just turning them in for fear of going to jail. They will have 'buyback programs' If you turn in your guns at this point, you will have no protection from whatever comes next. They will relentlessly hunt down the remaining 30% of the guns. They might wind up killing a large percentage of the population to get the guns.

If they only get a handful of guns turned in voluntarily (instead of the 70% they expect), they will think twice about continuing with their efforts. Here's an opportunity for all Americans to practice passive resistance. If you cooperate with evil, it will eventually bite you in the ass, but in this case, it might kill you. If 70% volunteer their weapons, 100% of us will be screwed. Those who want everyone to live in something far worse than the Soviet Union will voluntarily give up their guns. The guns are what keep us free. Read the Pravda article telling Americans not to give up their guns:

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col...ricans_guns-0/

The smart, constructive response for anybody in this issue is 'molon labe' which is Greek for 'come and get them'. 300 Spartans turned a huge Persian army around at Thermopylae by refusing to lay down their weapons. Political power comes from the barrel of a gun. Thank chairman Mao for that reminder.

Molon labe.


Hatha

[Santa]

Exactly!!!!! MOLON LABE.

[7th trump]

This has been discussed over at the tree................nobody over there has found any creditable source.
It appears to be made up rant by Quin whos latest legislation has been voted down!
Quins a temper tantrum crybaby of a politician!


The tree seems to have all the important issues already discussed and/or debunked hours before this forum does.

[EE_]

CHEKA (Soviet Extraordinary Commission) Russian film
Published on Dec 20, 2012

The Chekist (Russian: Чекист) is a 1992 Russian drama film directed by Aleksandr Rogozhkin. It was screened in the Un Certain Regard section at the 1992 Cannes Film Festival. The film is currently not in distribution.

At the direction of Lenin, the CHEKA performed mass arrests and executions of "enemies of the people".

"Without mercy, without sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be thousands, let them drown themselves in their own blood."

Many victims of CHEKA repression were 'bourgeois hostages' rounded up and held in readiness for summary execution in reprisal for any alleged counter-revolutionary act. Lenin's dictum was: that it was better to arrest 100 innocent people rather than to risk one enemy going free. That ensured that wholesale, indiscriminate executions became an integral part of the soviet system.

CHEKA developed a efficient technique for execution, a shot to the nape of the neck, which caused minimal blood loss and instant death.

CHEKA departments were organized in cities, villages, at any front-lines and military formations. Many who were hired to head those departments were so-called "nestlings of Kerensky" (Russian: птенцы Керенского), the former political and criminal convicts released by the Kerensky amnesty.

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[willie pete]

This has been discussed over at the tree................nobody over there has found any creditable source.
It appears to be made up rant by Quin whos latest legislation has been voted down!
Quins a temper tantrum crybaby of a politician!


The tree seems to have all the important issues already discussed and/or debunked hours before this forum does.

seems suspicious to me, since the SCOTUS ruled in favor of Heller v. District of Columbia, why would a state senator try and construct a bill on an issue that the SCOTUS has ruled against?

[7th trump]

seems suspicious to me, since the SCOTUS ruled in favor of Heller v. District of Columbia, why would a state senator try and construct a bill on an issue that the SCOTUS has ruled against?

Exactly!
The only way they could ever fully disarm the American people is to ratify the Constitution altogether in favor doing away with the second amendment.
That will never happen!
Ratifications are a whole other animal where the People actually make that decision, not politicians making policy.

[Libertytree]

Then the question is...does an EO over ride everything else? At least till it gets sorted out in a court? ( and I use the term "court" very loosely)

[vacuum]

Then the question is...does an EO over ride everything else? At least till it gets sorted out in a court? ( and I use the term "court" very loosely)

From a black Kenyan communist who did Fast and Furious? Good luck with that...