Quote Originally Posted by joboo View Post
All the evidence points to it being an airplane, It's the simplest most coherent, and likely reality, and everything indicates it was under proper (not loose change pictorial style) scrutiny.
I am, personally, relatively ignorant about this whole thing. I never researched it, haven't read all the replies in this thread, and have not reviewed all the evidence. I have not watched one video on this topic which tries to prove one thing or the other. I haven't seen all the pictures. I've never piloted a plane.

You can try to twist that, but ultimately you can't escape the parameters of the equation just by thinking about it.

As far as I know, thinking about physical realities physically changing does not make them actually change physically.

The human mind has no such magical powers that I know of.
Either you didn't read, or didn't understand, my first quoted paragraph. I claim uncertainty, which bothers you.

At this point, for me, having done almost zero research, my guess is that it probably wasn't a plane. (Does that statement bother you?) When, and if, I devote time into doing the research, my guess might change and I'll be a little less uncertain. The kicker is that the only way I can become less uncertain is by investing the time and doing the research myself. I'm glad you are more certain than I am, and I appreciate that fact. But your certainty can't translate into mine. That's not twisting reality, in fact it's the opposite.