Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

[monty]

If we had a governor worth his salt, he would call out the Militia (national guard) and put a stop to this shit.

edit to add:

And the contract "cowboys" should be tared and feathered. It saddens me to see these low lifes turning against thier fellow man.

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[palani]

call out the Militia (national guard)

Errr ... the national guard is not the militia. You are. Get together, elect an officer and the governor must issue a commission. He has no choice.

[monty]

I read in news one the Bundy's sons was arrested for filming the feds. He was apparently arrested by one of the BLM's boys. These so called law enforcemnt officers of th BLM and the U S Forest Service have absolutly no jurisdiction in any of the several States, on or off federal land. Their jurisdiction is limited to another federal employee. Wayne Hage knew this. Wayne insisted they bring the sheriff or hs deputies to maintain the peace. The only power they have over the people is intimidation Sent from my iPad using Forum Runner

[monty]

Errr ... the national guard is not the militia. You are. Get together, elect an officer and the governor must issue a commission. He has no choice.

Palani, I understand this.

That was posted with much sarcasm. Grrrrrr



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[palani]

That was posted with much sarcasm.

No sarcasm intended on my end. I can't speak to your end.

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http://books.google.com/books?id=lkA...%20law&f=false

[palani]

This is precious. It seems if the feds are out rounding up estray neat-footed critters then there is a state procedure by which they must proceed. If they don't proceed as outlined the crime is grand larceny and even the justice of the peace may be amerced.

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[monty]

No sarcasm intended on my end. I can't speak to your end. http://books.google.com/books?id=lkA...%20law&f=false

The sarcasm was on my end. If we had the militia as is mandated in our state constitutions . . . .

And gold and silver coin . . . .

Nevada was admitted to the Union during the Civil War with less than the legal required population. The state gave up the rights of ownership of the land in exchange for statehood without the required population. This was written into the enabling act. Some, including me, believe this violates the equal footing doctrine.

Pollard vs Hagan "that all navigable waters within the said State shall forever remain public highways, free to the citizens of said State, and of the United States, without any tax, duty, impost, or toll therefor imposed by said State,"
conveys no more power over the navigable waters of Alabama to the Government of the United States than it possesses over the navigable waters of other States under the provisions of the Constitution.
And it leaves as much right in the State of Alabama over them as the original States possess over navigable waters within their respective limits.


The shores of navigable waters, and the soils under them, were not granted by the Constitution to the United States, but were reserved to the States respectively, and the new States have the same rights, sovereignty, and jurisdiction over this subject as the original States.


This last sentence implies that the land not submerged belongs to the State because it was not granted to the United States by the Constitution

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[monty]

This is precious. It seems if the feds are out rounding up estray neat-footed critters then there is a state procedure by which they must proceed. If they don't proceed as outlined the crime is grand larceny and even the justice of the peace may be amerced.

These are not estray creatures. They are branded cattle on designated permitted areas with grazing fees paid to the same organization that is consficating them. This is cattle rustling on a grand scale.

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[madfranks]

Latest -

http://freebeacon.com/issues/last-man-standing/

Environmentalists are praising the government’s forceful actions, which are being taken to protect the “desert tortoise.”

“They’re carrying the same things a soldier would,” he said. “Automatic weapons, sniper rifles, top communication, top surveillance equipment, lots of vehicles. It’s heavy soldier type equipment.”
His wife, Carol Bundy, said that roughly 200 armed agents from the BLM and FBI are stationed around their land, located about 75 miles outside of Las Vegas. Helicopters circle the premises, and the airspace and nearby roads remain blocked.
“We’re surrounded,” Carol Bundy said. “We’re estimating that there are over 200 armed BLM, FBI. We’ve got surveillance cameras at our house, they’re probably listening to me talk to you right now.”


This afternoon eight helicopters surrounded the family after they began taking pictures, according to Bundy’s daughter, Bailey.

Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval (R.) voiced his concern about so-called “First Amendment Areas,” designated locations set up by the BLM where citizens can protest the removal.

I'm sad to say I don't think this is going to end well for Mr. Bundy and his family. This is a classic example of how all federal laws, even as "benign" as being taxed $1.35 per "animal unit", when refused, will be enforced at the point of a gun. It doesn't matter that the gov is spending millions of tax dollars enforcing this fiasco, their control and their power must be maintained at any cost.

[madfranks]

I just hope the guy can walk the tight rope the they have him on, he slips and they win. Kudos, that he has lasted this long and hope he wins.

No kidding, one mis-step and he's done for. You can bet your ass these agents are just waiting with baited breath for one slip up so they can justify murdering him and his whole family. Then they'll get rewards and accolades for taking town "domestic terrorists". Makes me sick.