Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

[Dogman]

What is amazing is that so many people shoot themselfs into the foot, because they have a brain fart.

What is said is said.


He may have had support, nationally but most has went poof when he opened his mouth.

Think on why that is!

[Cebu_4_2]

What is amazing is that so many people shoot themselfs into the foot, because they have a brain fart.

What is said is said.


He may have had support, nationally but most has went poof when he opened his mouth.

Think on why that is!

What?

[Dogman]

What?

Think!

[Cebu_4_2]

Think!

I can't be on the same page if we drink different things? 12 hours later and a few beers into it I still can't understand your thinking... I might just be a bit slow.

[Dogman]

Zoom, over your head! But I understand it is not hard to do! All it takes is understanding posting history and then connecting the dots, to understand where the poster is coming from, some are thinkers and some are instigators.

[Cebu_4_2]

Zoom, over your head! But I understand it is not hard to do! All it takes is understanding posting history and then connecting the dots, to understand where the poster is coming from, some are thinkers and some are instigators.

I must be instigator since I cant figure it out right?

[Tumbleweed]

I don't know how accurate this movie clip is but is but the real story it's based on seems similar to the one at the Bundy ranch.

Common, ordinary people armed themselves to confront corrupt politicians and law enforcement.

[Ares]

Sheriff, Feds: Rancher Must Be Held Accountable


RENO, Nev. — Jul 5, 2014, 10:15 PM ET
By MARTIN GRIFFITH Associated Press

U.S. Bureau of Land Management officials say they agree with a Nevada sheriff's position that rancher Cliven Bundy must be held accountable for his role in an April standoff between his supporters and the federal agency.

Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie said Bundy crossed the line when he allowed states' rights supporters, including self-proclaimed militia members, onto his property to aim guns at police.

"If you step over that line, there are consequences to those actions," Gillespie told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "And I believe they stepped over that line. No doubt about it. They need to be held accountable for it."

Bureau spokeswoman Celia Boddington, in a statement released Saturday to The Associated Press, said the agency continues to pursue the matter "aggressively through the legal system."

"There is an ongoing investigation and we are working diligently to ensure that those who broke the law are held accountable," she said, declining to elaborate.

The FBI declined comment Saturday on its investigation. Bundy did not respond to a request for comment.

The Bureau of Land Management says Bundy owes over $1 million in fees and penalties for trespassing on federal property without a permit over 20 years. Bundy, whose ancestors settled in the area in the late 1800s, refuses to acknowledge federal authority on public lands.

A federal judge in Las Vegas first ordered Bundy in 1998 to remove "trespass cattle" from land the bureau declared a refuge for the endangered desert tortoise. Bureau officials obtained court orders last year allowing the roundup.

Boddington disputed Gillespie's contention the agency mishandled the roundup of Bundy's cattle 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

The bureau backed down during the showdown with Bundy and his armed supporters, citing safety concerns, and released some 380 Bundy cattle collected during a weeklong operation from a vast arid range half the size of the state of Delaware.

Gillespie blamed the bureau for escalating the conflict and ignoring his advice to delay the roundup after he had a confrontational meeting with Bundy's children a few weeks before it began.

"I came back from that saying, 'This is not the time to do this,' " the sheriff told the Review-Journal. "They said, 'We do this all the time. We know what we're doing. We hear what you're saying, but we're moving forward.'"

Tensions further escalated early in the roundup after a video showed one of Bundy's sons being stunned with a Taser. The video drew militia members and others to Bundy's ranch.

Bundy was not a hardened criminal, Gillespie told the newspaper. He was a rancher who stopped paying his fees, the sheriff said, and that was not worth risking violence.

But Boddington said the bureau planned and conducted the roundup in "full coordination" with Gillespie and his office.

"It is unfortunate that the sheriff is now attempting to rewrite the details of what occurred, including his claims that the BLM did not share accurate information," she said. "The sheriff encouraged the operation and promised to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with us as we enforced two recent federal court orders."

"Sadly, he backed out of his commitment shortly before the operation - and after months of joint planning - leaving the BLM and the National Park Service to handle the crowd control that the sheriff previously committed to handling," she added.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/s...table-24440891

[EE_]

Sheriff, Feds: Rancher Must Be Held Accountable


RENO, Nev. — Jul 5, 2014, 10:15 PM ET
By MARTIN GRIFFITH Associated Press

U.S. Bureau of Land Management officials say they agree with a Nevada sheriff's position that rancher Cliven Bundy must be held accountable for his role in an April standoff between his supporters and the federal agency.

Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie said Bundy crossed the line when he allowed states' rights supporters, including self-proclaimed militia members, onto his property to aim guns at police.

"If you step over that line, there are consequences to those actions," Gillespie told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "And I believe they stepped over that line. No doubt about it. They need to be held accountable for it."

Bureau spokeswoman Celia Boddington, in a statement released Saturday to The Associated Press, said the agency continues to pursue the matter "aggressively through the legal system."

"There is an ongoing investigation and we are working diligently to ensure that those who broke the law are held accountable," she said, declining to elaborate.

The FBI declined comment Saturday on its investigation. Bundy did not respond to a request for comment.

The Bureau of Land Management says Bundy owes over $1 million in fees and penalties for trespassing on federal property without a permit over 20 years. Bundy, whose ancestors settled in the area in the late 1800s, refuses to acknowledge federal authority on public lands.

A federal judge in Las Vegas first ordered Bundy in 1998 to remove "trespass cattle" from land the bureau declared a refuge for the endangered desert tortoise. Bureau officials obtained court orders last year allowing the roundup.

Boddington disputed Gillespie's contention the agency mishandled the roundup of Bundy's cattle 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

The bureau backed down during the showdown with Bundy and his armed supporters, citing safety concerns, and released some 380 Bundy cattle collected during a weeklong operation from a vast arid range half the size of the state of Delaware.

Gillespie blamed the bureau for escalating the conflict and ignoring his advice to delay the roundup after he had a confrontational meeting with Bundy's children a few weeks before it began.

"I came back from that saying, 'This is not the time to do this,' " the sheriff told the Review-Journal. "They said, 'We do this all the time. We know what we're doing. We hear what you're saying, but we're moving forward.'"

Tensions further escalated early in the roundup after a video showed one of Bundy's sons being stunned with a Taser. The video drew militia members and others to Bundy's ranch.

Bundy was not a hardened criminal, Gillespie told the newspaper. He was a rancher who stopped paying his fees, the sheriff said, and that was not worth risking violence.

But Boddington said the bureau planned and conducted the roundup in "full coordination" with Gillespie and his office.

"It is unfortunate that the sheriff is now attempting to rewrite the details of what occurred, including his claims that the BLM did not share accurate information," she said. "The sheriff encouraged the operation and promised to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with us as we enforced two recent federal court orders."

"Sadly, he backed out of his commitment shortly before the operation - and after months of joint planning - leaving the BLM and the National Park Service to handle the crowd control that the sheriff previously committed to handling," she added.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/s...table-24440891

My questions:
Did the militia actually aim their rifles at police/Feds?...or is this just more bullshit trumped up charges?

They say Bundy owes $1 million, for what, what did he rob the Federal government of? What was taken, what's missing?

They admit the agency mishandled the roundup of Bundy's cattle and tased his son. Sounds pretty clear Bundy was damaged and is due compentation. I think the Feds owe him at least $1.5 million in damages.

They say he was trespassing, so are the Feds assessing how much Mexico owes for trespassing, destruction of property and the cost/damage to the US tax payers and economy? What about all the harmful drugs they flood our country with?
Mexico allows their Mexican cattle to trespass on our land, have they paid any fines?

How much has Bundy cost the US tax payers, other then what the Feds cost us for their show of power to extract money from a 'legal' productive US citizen that harmed no one?

If these pricks try this bullshit again, to strong arm US citizens to collect the Jew tax...I only hope the militia actually does point their rifles at them this time and empty their magazines.

[Ares]

My questions:
Did the militia actually aim their rifles at police/Feds?...or is this just more bullshit trumped up charges?

Yep
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They say Bundy owes $1 million, for what, what did he rob the Federal government of? What was taken, what's missing?

They claim they own Nevada basically. Bundy said the land that his cattle graze on belongs to Nevada and that he would be happy to pay the grazing fee's to the state which he has but they return the checks. They return it because the FED's have claimed the land as theirs and the state politicians are too much of a pussy to tell them otherwise. Or risk losing that fat federal pork money.

They admit the agency mishandled the roundup of Bundy's cattle and tased his son. Sounds pretty clear Bundy was damaged and is due compentation. I think the Feds owe him at least $1.5 million in damages.

Agreed

They say he was trespassing, so are the Feds assessing how much Mexico owes for trespessing, destruction of property and the cost/damage to the US tax payers and economy? What about all the harmful drugs they flood our country with?

Of course not. You're racist for even bringing up the hypocrisy of government favoritism and selective enforcement. /sarcasm

Mexico allows their Mexican cattle to trespass on our land, have they paid any fines?

The good thing about being a FED and selectively enforcing the law is that they will most likely claim the land is the states and is up to them to collect from Mexico.

How much has Bundy cost the US tax payers, other then what the Feds cost us for their show of power to extract money from a 'legal' productive US citizen that harmed no one?

He hasn't cost us anything. He's a net producer which is frowned upon by our government. They want subservient slaves to ask them for their daily bread. If you can produce your own, well you're a problem.

If these pricks try this bullshit again, to strong arm US citizens to collect the Jew tax...I only hope the militia actually does point their rifles at them this time and empty their magazines.

Militia pointed their rifles at them last time. There were sniper positions throughout the foothills where both sides took positions. That's been well documented. They are most likely trying to plan a military style SWAT raid to "intimidate" the rest of the citizenry to not resist state sponsored tyranny and oppression. I don't think it's going to work out too well for them. Militia members here lately have gone to the border to shore it up since the FED's don't bother securing the border. Maybe that's why they're going after Bundy now? Who knows?