Geocentrism

[JohnQPublic]

How is that relevant to what I wrote? Most of us will go to hell for our "crimes" after this life on earth...

Which "crimes" are those, Neuro?

[crimethink]

Who cares really what position earth has in relation to the Galaxy or the universe, what happens here is important to us. We are not going to go anywhere else, what we have here we have to make do with. Most people here live their lives like it is an egocentric universe, they themselves are the most important, followed by family, friends, neighbours, acquaintances, villagers, countrymen, races, humanity, in that descending order. Whether you believe in the Copernican principle or not, that is what most cares about! Whether we are at the center of the universe, or we are an insignificant planet, at an insignificant star in an insignificant position of our galaxy in an insignificant part of the universe it doesn't really matter! This planet matters to us. Live or let die!

If Earth's position and nature are "special" and "unique," then Intelligent Design becomes self-evident. And if Intelligent Design is "proven," the fundamental foundations of the entire world system are called into question. A reversal of the "God is Dead" movement over the last century-plus would profoundly alter our world.

[crimethink]

If there is a God, he is Evil.

Non-sequitur.

God allowed us to choose, and we chose wrong. And keep choosing wrong, over, and over, and over, ad infinitum.

Evil runs this world. It always has.

Since man chose wrong, yes, this is true. The Bible acknowledges this.

Good is only permitted to exist as a plaything for Evil. It's like a cat who has a paw on a mouses' tail, playing with it before it devours it.

"Evil" is not a thing. Evil is the absence of Good. And where God is not welcome, Good is much less likely to exist. Think of Evil as Darkness...it's been equated for very good reason for millennia. It is the absence of Light.

When humans reject God, Goodness diminishes where He is dismissed and denounced.

Religion was created by Evil people to control you, and give you a false sense of security, so others more powerful can stomp all over you unopposed.

This is absolutely correct. Jesus Christ was murdered because of and by religion. "My burden is light..." He didn't give us another religion; He gave us relief from it.

You're the butcher, or you're the cattle.

Or you're the visionary and idealist who can see that there is something much, much more beyond this material world.

[crimethink]

How is that relevant to what I wrote? Most of us will go to hell for our "crimes" after this life on earth...

People who choose to reject God are given their desire in the next life. "Hell" is separation from God, forever. God does not "send" anyone anywhere. He permits them their choice, just as Adam & Eve were given the choice.

[Neuro]

Which "crimes" are those, Neuro?

I don't know I didn't make that shit up!

[Neuro]

If Earth's position and nature are "special" and "unique," then Intelligent Design becomes self-evident. And if Intelligent Design is "proven," the fundamental foundations of the entire world system are called into question. A reversal of the "God is Dead" movement over the last century-plus would profoundly alter our world.

You don't think earth revolves around the sun?

[Shami-Amourae]

Non-sequitur.

God allowed us to choose, and we chose wrong. And keep choosing wrong, over, and over, and over, ad infinitum.
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Or you're the visionary and idealist who can see that there is something much, much more beyond this material world.

None of the stuff you said makes sense. Again, I don't believe in a god. Your statements are based around the belief in the Christian religion.

[crimethink]

You don't think earth revolves around the sun?

Can it be proven?

It is "probably true."

[crimethink]

None of the stuff you said makes sense.

Didn't make any sense to me at one time in my life, either.

Your statements are based around the belief in the Christian religion.

I don't believe in it because it's Christian. I'm a Christian because it's true.

I can only explain what I know.

[Neuro]

Can it be proven?

It is "probably true."

The other option is that sun revolves around earth and all the other planets revolves around the sun. But Martians or Titans or Plutonians could likewise argue the exact same thing for their planets in relation with the sun and the other planets. Everyone could be in a special and unique place of the Universe...