Roll over Einstein: Law of physics challenged

[cheka.]

listened to einstein expert on rense -- he said ein is total fraud - one of the many hoaxes from same group. interview is on that website that was posted on here a few months ago - mami's shit alternative

edit: this site, listened to it today --- http://helpfultidbits.jimdo.com/

[palani]

the limit is the speed of light. Nothing can go faster, even though there are faster things

Now take an electron. It circles an atom is a specific orbit based upon its energy level. If the energy is increased or decreased it either jumps to the next outer shell orbit or an inner orbit (from where it presently is).

The thing is there is no transition. One instant it is in one shell and the next instant it is somewhere else.

This model might be useful to describe some aspect of a process but it is not a complete and total truth. As it stands the theory is simply useful until a more useful theory presents itself.

Electrical engineers use a concept called a Dirac Delta function. Take something at zero amplitude and at a certain time it jumps directly to an amplitude of one. No transition time. Such a function contains all frequencies from DC to many gigahertz so the Dirac Delta presented to a filter does a decent job showing what frequencies the filter is effective on (perform convolution on the output of the filter).

In mathematics such a Dirac Delta function is not possible. If you take the derivative of the function you end up with a spike of infinite amplitude and zero width. When you integrate the derivative you calculate an area of one. It is a number divided by zero and mathematicians get confused by considering such a singularity.

[Neuro]

Now take an electron. It circles an atom is a specific orbit based upon its energy level. If the energy is increased or decreased it either jumps to the next outer shell orbit or an inner orbit (from where it presently is).

The thing is there is no transition. One instant it is in one shell and the next instant it is somewhere else.

I thought this sounded interesting so I googled it. According to Wikipedia there is a transition time (of a few nanoseconds or less), which would mean IMO there is a transition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic...ron_transition

[palani]

I thought this sounded interesting so I googled it. According to Wikipedia there is a transition time (of a few nanoseconds or less), which would mean IMO there is a transition.

A transition time would imply that an electron exists outside of a valid shell in the process of going from one shell to another. Shell theory does not permit this.

[Neuro]

A transition time would imply that an electron exists outside of a valid shell in the process of going from one shell to another. Shell theory does not permit this.

Maybe shell theory isn't correct then...

[palani]

Maybe shell theory isn't correct then...

That is my point. A model is useful for certain things but there comes a point where the model itself breaks down and you have to come up with a new theory.

[Glass]

interesting conversation, I want to say "fellas" but anyway.

I have commented a couple times about the thoughts of Bruce Cathie, not a scientist but a thinker, theoriser about the behaviour of electrons.

Taking into account this was in the late '60's early 70's. hopefully I get this right. He was positing on why the electron seemed to disappear at some point in their rotation only to appear some 270 degrees either further around than expected or less than expected. I think it was more.

He surmised that for that period of time the electron was in the anti matter state. Astrophysiscts might say it was in another dimension for part of that time.

That period of time would be the transition period you are talking about. So I wonder if there is something in those thoughts. Seems possible.

The shell model would need to have an additional time period sliced into it even though it is a very small time slice. At least on our side. Who knows on the other.

[Shami-Amourae]

listened to einstein expert on rense -- he said ein is total fraud - one of the many hoaxes from same group. interview is on that website that was posted on here a few months ago - mami's shit alternative

edit: this site, listened to it today --- http://helpfultidbits.jimdo.com/

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Einstein

Upon graduating with no academic merits, Al was once again unemployed and a burden to his poor Jewish family. Unfortunately, someone at some patent office pitied him and gave him a job. By stealing the ideas of Hendrik Lorentz, Michele Besso, Max Planck, Paul Ehrenfest, Konrad Habricht, Maurice Solovine, Friedrich Adler, Henri Poincaré and countless patent writers, he was able to convince the scientific community that he was smart.


Through the ideas he "borrowed" from others, Al invented The Godwin Variation, nightlights, the A-Bomb (which he named after himself), cats and chalk. He also created the General Theory of Relativity, a theory bent on establishing his own genius and the possibility that he is right, regardless of the mindfucks his math creates. The theory asserts that when an object is moving really fast, it is actually moving really slow. This and other concepts created by Relativity are in direct conflict with at least 100 other theories from at least 100 years ago, one could say that Albert Einstein was a predecessor of ED's concept. He was also executive producer of The Nanny, even though Fran Drescher is a Jew.[1]

[Horn]

my estimation is that even if they did have a way to measure a proton that might prove einstein firstly.

or it would have a tolerance error of 2 protons.

[Neuro]

interesting conversation, I want to say "fellas" but anyway.

I have commented a couple times about the thoughts of Bruce Cathie, not a scientist but a thinker, theoriser about the behaviour of electrons.

Taking into account this was in the late '60's early 70's. hopefully I get this right. He was positing on why the electron seemed to disappear at some point in their rotation only to appear some 270 degrees either further around than expected or less than expected. I think it was more.

He surmised that for that period of time the electron was in the anti matter state. Astrophysiscts might say it was in another dimension for part of that time.

That period of time would be the transition period you are talking about. So I wonder if there is something in those thoughts. Seems possible.

The shell model would need to have an additional time period sliced into it even though it is a very small time slice. At least on our side. Who knows on the other.

That is a possibility I suppose, when it goes from one shell to another, it isn't in between shells, it is somewhere else, or it is transformed into some form of invisible energy packet and then it is reformed to an electron when it reaches its destination shell... Shell theory intact with transition time accounted for...