Yes let's go back to pre-civilization, ignore scientific progress, and spend our time pursuing magic and superstition instead. You really are insane.Originally Posted by singular_me
I spent most of my time defending and promoting Electric Universe theory in this thread. It makes sense from a scientific point of view in that it explains aspects that are not readily explained by the standard gravitational model. That should be a clue to Singular to abandon it...
Ares (5th January 2017)
Ha!
At least it makes sense to some. I just need some hard data to back it up.
Singular can piss and moan all day long about Scientism, but I find it ironic that the very object of her objection is used to post on this board. Without Scientism there would be no electricity, internet, or even a computer. Without Scientism there would be no Electric Universe theory because there would be no tool to make those observations to even form the theory.
Like I said she's a Contrarian. Whatever the prevailing thought, she just HAS to be different.
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Neuro (5th January 2017)
I do agree with you that EU-theory needs to be backed up by observation. The presence of neutrino's from sun would certainly disprove a 100% electrical sun. There are things in the theory that are not easily supported by observation, like supernovas and red giants. However I am not sure these events are supported well in standard gravitational fusion model either. Why does a star need to burn through a certain amount of hydrogen before it goes supernova? Why doesn't it do that immediatelly? The red giant Aldebaran has a fluctuating size of the orbit of Jupiter or Saturn, but its mass is a mere 10-20x our suns (from memory), it means it is pretty much empty space, a vacuum, but still it is supposed to maintain a fusion reaction in its interior?
And then you have the rapidly rotating stars in center of galaxies, absent a mysterious black hole of doubtful existence, there is nothing gravitational that would make them behave like this since gravity in center of the mass of a galaxy is zero.
Sure the essence of gravity fields are not very well understood, neither are the essence of magnetic fields. One seems to be mass generated and the other electrical generated. Sure mass=energy=electricity, but it doesn't mean they should behave through the same physical laws in the different shapes of energy they are in.
Ares (5th January 2017)
If you say that I am insane, then all the religious textbooks are indeed insane, but when I show you the roots of this so-called insanity, you turn your head the other way and endorse denial.
That Newton was deep into hermetic knowledge, (so Mark Planks that came up with the term "quantum physics" because he knew that the word "esoteiricsim" would doom his work) and so where all greatest physicists, which ultimately sold their soul to atheism and it so called scientific method.
you do not get it... everything is harmful thus wrong... lies are harmful... what progress? we are destroying earth at a pace like never before. Progress? the use of oil or the invention of plastic or even building construction which now require to destroy full islands to get the sand for concrete because the desert sand isnt good enough. Progress, now robotics that is going to eliminate all jobs and which the average people are not prepared for and will ultimately riot because of the ensuing economic squeeze (right around the corner). What progress, the AI weapons that will destroy the planet if we dont stand against it. What progress? The right to plunder african subhumans and dump our etrash (worth 32BN yearly for america only) onto them?
Everything created by man since the industrialization is harming the planet to no end. And you call that "progress". ROFLOL.
YOU CALL PROGRESS WHAT IS THE RESULT OF A DARWIAN APE-LIKE LEFT BRAIN - BUT IN MUCH WORSE because man cannot even afford behaving like animal. A real civilization does NOT destroy itself. You can blame the usual suspects as much as you and continue to avoid taking responsibility. All this because the metaphysIcs of Life are not taught but primitive relIgious doctrines that 90% do NOT understand (but it was designed this way) j-- just like you.
You are talking of magic, yes if you have to explain the Torus, one has to resort to metaphysics, where is the electricity coming from (that you endorse EU or not). Once the torus is accepted to be the drive of all life, it appears everywhere.
The deeper we probe anything the more you will find space and electric fields. At a subatomic level as much as in the far space. As above so below. And this is impossible to explain this rationally, with the so-called scientific method. Trying to applying this scientific method is what corrupts scientific mindset, because everything must fit within that materialistic parameter. So all what is left is harmful.
Life itself is magic and this MAGIC HAS A LIVING GEOMETRY to prove its realness. Period. Now you can be upset as much as you want, throw a tantrum, I really dont care.
Please explain how electricity comes into existence then... and how its characteristics do affect matter.
Ohh, yeah it is how just Nature organizes itself = PURE atheistic thought.
But I am insane
And enjoying it.
electric wave shaped by living geometry
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=...ecycle.jpg&f=1
All the money that exists cannot buy Earth, and the evidence is that we destroy our habitat as a result, thinking that we can just seize and pillage as we see fit. If crowds endorse the pursuit of wealth at their own level, they cannot prevent multinationals from doing exactly the same. The “dystopian endless growth paradigm” is going to end with a bang but will open the door to a premise endorsing that Earth is the only wealth we truly have while journeying through life.
Yes you are insane. If you actually believe the bullshit you are spouting, and actually wanted to take responsibility, the only moral action would be to stop using modern technology, computers, plastic, internet, electricity. For fucks sake look yourself in the mirror before you start casting rocks. You are criticizing science (or now it became scientism), and you have no idea what science is. Not even the basics. I am aware of Newtons delving into the mystical, so what? You are now saying everything in universe is generated by electricity... Really? Love, emotions too? I don't think so...
You are a fanatic ignoramus!
Ares (5th January 2017)
thank you...
All the money that exists cannot buy Earth, and the evidence is that we destroy our habitat as a result, thinking that we can just seize and pillage as we see fit. If crowds endorse the pursuit of wealth at their own level, they cannot prevent multinationals from doing exactly the same. The “dystopian endless growth paradigm” is going to end with a bang but will open the door to a premise endorsing that Earth is the only wealth we truly have while journeying through life.
For what?
for sharing your atheistic 2 cents
I have nothing to add anymore, but this picture, showing the symbiosis between electric currents and living geometry
see the heart beat in it? I DO!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f4m2jZyofX...eld_medium.gif
All the money that exists cannot buy Earth, and the evidence is that we destroy our habitat as a result, thinking that we can just seize and pillage as we see fit. If crowds endorse the pursuit of wealth at their own level, they cannot prevent multinationals from doing exactly the same. The “dystopian endless growth paradigm” is going to end with a bang but will open the door to a premise endorsing that Earth is the only wealth we truly have while journeying through life.
You are projecting! Satanist!
You do realize it is CGI, don't you? And yes it's excellent Earth has a magnetic field that protect us from cosmic radiation. It even allows your stupidity to reach extradimensional heights.
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