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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    Quote Originally Posted by 7th trump View Post
    I dare any one of you to watch this about the end times.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NRex5B3l5U

    Most will not, but complain about the messenger.

    The messenger actually gets an SPLC endorsement, LOL:

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...ntity-theology

    Hence, maybe I'll take the time to listen per your recommendation.
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    Free Range Report: Rural vs Urban Divide: Why Trump took 2016.

    I suspect these rural voters are in for a huge dose of disappointment. It looks to me like Donald Trump is for corporate America. I don't expect small farmers and ranchers or mom and pop busineses will improve under a Trump presidency

    http://freerangereport.com/index.php...ump-took-2016/

    The Rural vs Urban Divide: Why Trump took 2016

    January 12, 2017 editor Leave a comment

    Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

    Why rural America voted for Trump

    Knoxville, Iowa — One recent morning, I sat near two young men at a coffee shop here whom I’ve known since they were little boys. Now about 18, they pushed away from the table, and one said: “Let’s go to work. Let the liberals sleep in.” The other nodded.

    They’re hard workers. As a kid, one washed dishes, took orders and swept the floor at a restaurant. Every summer, the other picked sweet corn by hand at dawn for a farm stand and for grocery stores, and then went to work all day on his parents’ farm. Now one is a welder, and the other is in his first year at a state university on an academic scholarship. They are conservative, believe in hard work, family, the military and cops, and they know that abortion and socialism are evil, that Jesus Christ is our savior, and that Donald J. Trump will be good for America.
    They are part of a growing movement in rural America that immerses many young people in a culture — not just conservative news outlets but also home and church environments — that emphasizes contemporary conservative values. It views liberals as loathsome, misinformed and weak, even dangerous.

    Who are these rural, red-county people who brought Mr. Trump into power? I’m a native Iowan and reporter in rural Marion County, Iowa. I consider myself fairly liberal. My family has mostly voted Democratic since long before I was born. To be honest, for years, even I have struggled to understand how these conservative friends and neighbors I respect — and at times admire — can think so differently from me, not to mention how over 60 percent of voters in my county could have chosen Mr. Trump.

    Political analysts have talked about how ignorance, racism, sexism, nationalism, Islamophobia, economic disenfranchisement and the decline of the middle class contributed to the popularity of Mr. Trump in rural America. But this misses the deeper cultural factors that shape the thinking of the conservatives who live here.

    https://i0.wp.com/freerangereport.co...size=860%2C574Trump supporters at a rally in Iowa last January. Credit Sam Hodgson for The New York Times

    For me, it took a 2015 pre-caucus stop in Pella by J. C. Watts, a Baptist minister raised in the small town of Eufaula, Okla., who was a Republican congressman from 1995 to 2003, to begin to understand my neighbors — and most likely other rural Americans as well.
    “The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans believe people are fundamentally bad, while Democrats see people as fundamentally good,” said Mr. Watts, who was in the area to campaign for Senator Rand Paul. “We are born bad,” he said and added that children did not need to be taught to behave badly — they are born knowing how to do that.

    “We teach them how to be good,” he said. “We become good by being reborn — born again.”

    He continued: “Democrats believe that we are born good, that we create God, not that he created us. If we are our own God, as the Democrats say, then we need to look at something else to blame when things go wrong — not us.”

    Mr. Watts talked about the 2015 movie theater shooting in Lafayette, La., in which two people were killed. Mr. Watts said that Republicans knew that the gunman was a bad man, doing a bad thing. Democrats, he added, “would look for other causes — that the man was basically good, but that it was the guns, society or some other place where the blame lies and then they will want to control the guns, or something else — not the man.” Republicans, he said, don’t need to look anywhere else for the blame.

    Hearing Mr. Watts was an epiphany for me. For the first time I had a glimpse of where many of my conservative friends and neighbors were coming from. I thought, no wonder Republicans and Democrats can’t agree on things like gun control, regulations or the value of social programs. We live in different philosophical worlds, with different foundational principles.

    Overlay this philosophical perspective on the American rural-urban divides of history, economy and geography, and the conservative individual responsibility narrative becomes even more powerful. In my experience, the urban-rural divide isn’t really so much a red state versus blue state issue, it’s red county versus blue county. Rural Iowans have more in common with the rural residents of Washington State and New Mexico — places I’ve also lived — than with the residents of Des Moines, Seattle and Albuquerque.

    Look at a national map of which counties went for Democrats and which for Republicans: Overwhelmingly the blue counties are along waterways, where early river transportation encouraged the formation of cities, and surround state capitals. This is also where most investment in infrastructure and services is made. Rural Americans recognize that this is how it must be, as the cities are where most of the people are, yet it’s a sore spot.

    In state capitols across America, lawmakers spend billions of dollars to take a few seconds off a city dweller’s commute to his office, while rural counties’ farm-to-market roads fall into disrepair. Some of the paved roads in my region are no longer maintained and are reverting to gravel. For a couple of generations now, services that were once scattered across rural areas have increasingly been consolidated in urban areas, and rural towns die. It’s all done in the name of efficiency.

    In cities, firefighters and E.M.T.s are professionals whose departments are funded by local, state and federal tax dollars. Rural America relies on volunteers. If I have a serious heart attack at home, I’ll be cold to the touch by the time the volunteer ambulance crew from a town 22 miles away gets here.

    Urban police officers have the latest in computer equipment and vehicles, while small-town cops go begging.

    In this view, blue counties are where most of our tax dollars are spent, and that’s where all of our laws are written and passed. To rural Americans, sometimes it seems our taxes mostly go to making city residents live better. We recognize that the truth is more complex, particularly when it comes to social programs, but it’s the perception that matters — certainly to the way most people vote.

    To make matters worse, jobs are continuing to move to metropolitan areas. Small-town chamber of commerce directors and mayors still have big dreams, and use their perkiest grins and tax abatements to try to lure new businesses, only to see their hopes dashed, time and again. Many towns with a rich history and strong community pride are already dead; their citizens just don’t know it yet.

    Many moderate rural Republicans became supporters of Mr. Trump when he released his list of potential Supreme Court nominees who would allow the possibility of overturning Roe v. Wade. They also think the liberal worldview creates unnecessary rules and regulations that cripple the economy and take away good jobs that may belong to them or their neighbor. Public school systems and colleges are liberal tools of indoctrination that go after what we love and value most — our children.

    Some of what liberals worry about they see as pure nonsense. When you are the son or daughter of a carpenter or mechanic and a housewife or secretary who lives paycheck to paycheck, who can’t afford to send kids to college, as many rural residents are, white privilege is meaningless and abstract.

    It’s not just older people. The two young men at breakfast exemplify a younger generation with this view. When Ted Cruz campaigned in a neighboring town in 2015, I watched as a couple of dozen grade-school pupils sat at his feet, as if they were at a children’s service at church. His campaign speech was nearly a sermon, and the children listened wide-eyed when he told them the world is a scary place, and it’s godly men like him who are going to save them from the evils of President Obama, Hillary Clinton and their fellow Democrats.

    While many blame poor decisions by Mrs. Clinton for her loss, in an environment like this, the Democratic candidate probably didn’t matter. And the Democratic Party may not for generations to come. The Republican brand is strong in rural America — perhaps even strong enough to withstand a disastrous Trump presidency.

    Rural conservatives feel that their world is under siege, and that Democrats are an enemy to be feared and loathed. Given the philosophical premises Mr. Watts presented as the difference between Democrats and Republicans, reconciliation seems a long way off.

    Robert Leonard
    New York Times

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    Re: Trumped or Duped

    Trump Netanyahu live joint press conference



    https://youtu.be/_atG2fTYNvI
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    even AJ now changes his tune. I dont really care what politicians say but their actions. And if they happen to talk, they must be at least be consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
    Trump Netanyahu live joint press conference



    https://youtu.be/_atG2fTYNvI
    I guess that ends all the debates. Could you imagine being a Palestinian and watching the Trump address?

    You dont get any more Globalist, then professing unbreakable bonds with Israel. Such that it should be included in the definition of Globalist due to Israel unique position within the global community.

    That of untouchable to critiques.

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    Trump should say Fuck Israel, the Palestinians deserve their land back and as a bonus Fuck You to Nutinyahoo.

    That would work out well in your leftist brain but in reality you are totally fucking unintelligent, and mostly stupid. Probably both.

    Carry on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2 View Post
    Trump should say Fuck Israel, the Palestinians deserve their land back and as a bonus Fuck You to Nutinyahoo.
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    You're absolutely correct, there really was no good reason for the meeting in the first place.

    Was there some sort of immediate goal post or field goal that need be achieved between the 2 countries?

    This and many presidential meetings are a complete waste of energy.

    You wont see Trump shy away from the purely ceremonial show though, this is a guarantee.

    Had the 2 not met for nothing in particular then what? Is it grounds for impeachment?

    As long as the show is made to roll and homage paid is as long as it will continue, Trump is in complete support of Zionisms Left and Right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horn View Post
    You're absolutely correct, there really was no good reason for the meeting in the first place.

    Was there some sort of immediate goal post or field goal that need be achieved between the 2 countries?

    This and many presidential meetings are a complete waste of energy.

    You wont see Trump shy away from the purely ceremonial show though, this is a guarantee.

    Had the 2 not met for nothing in particular then what? Is it grounds for impeachment?

    As long as the show is made to roll and homage paid is as long as it will continue, Trump is in complete support of Zionisms Left and Right.
    Oh my God, you are as stupid as my new wage payer. Nevermind, you cant inform stupid, you just listen and work reealy slowwwww. If I tell him how to do things 5x fast he says it costs money but is willing to pay 1K to save 20 dollars. People are amazing and you are special too! You should be proud.
    Jackie did it and you know it!

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    ok, I fully listened to that one last evening and AJ is still pro-trump and blames the globalists. I was hoping that AJ acknowledges that trump was a lost cause, but he didnt.

    Eventually he will have to admit


    Kushner Is Mossad...And Israeli Intel On An Industrial Scale In US .. 16 February 2017 GMT
    http://www.rense.com/general96/kushnermossad.htm



    The Guy Trump Just Put in Charge of the Economy Has Deep Ties to George Soros
    16 February 2017 GMT
    http://theantimedia.org/trump-mnunchin-george-soros/


    Quote Originally Posted by singular_me View Post
    even AJ now changes his tune. I dont really care what politicians say but their actions. And if they happen to talk, they must be at least be consistent.

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