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    Here is more confirmation of much of what Paul Preston said, however, it does not mention the content of the conversation and transcript related to pedophilia rings.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y07DoedXZmw




    The Political Assassination of General Flynn
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    General Michael Flynn’s departure from the White House is indeed a tragedy and a TRAVESTY – not of his own making.
    The big story that the MSM is trying desperately to hide is the outrageous criminal violation of national security that the conversations between Russia’s ambassador and Flynn, the designated National Security Adviser to the President-Elect, were not only monitored and recorded, but then transcripts of that classified conversation were circulated to selected members of the pro-leftist press purely for political gain.
    This is not only a violation of Presidential security, but it also revealed what’s known in the intelligence business as “sources and methods” – something that usually brings the big heat down - and fast.
    The perpetrators of this phone tap on President Trump and his staff need to be hunted down, charged with espionage, tried, convicted and sent to the slammer for the rest of their natural lives. President Trump cannot conduct a government that can expose even his private conversations to the world for political gain.

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    There is an embedded video in this Bloomberg article.

    Here us the usual Bloomberg bilge introductory paragraphs but this article does reluctantly give us some good information in print. When you see Bloomberg telling us some real information, not their usual fake news, one may safely conclude that Bloomberg is in CYA / panic mode, but their old anti-Trump mantras at the beginning just won't even hold that bilge water anymore.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...-michael-flynn

    The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn
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    If we are to believe the Trump White House, National Security Adviser Michael Flynn just resigned because he lied about his conversations with Russia's ambassador to the vice president. As White House senior counselor Kellyanne Conway told NBC's "Today Show" on Tuesday: "Misleading the vice president really was the key here."

    That sounds about as credible as when the president told CIA employees that the media had invented the story about his enmity toward the spy agency, not even two weeks after he had taken to Twitter to compare the CIA to Nazis. It's about as credible as President Donald Trump's insistence that it didn't rain during his inauguration. Or that millions of people had voted illegally in the election he just won.

    The point here is that for a White House that has such a casual and opportunistic relationship with the truth, it's strange that Flynn's "lie" to Pence would get him fired. It doesn't add up.

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    It's not even clear that Flynn lied. He says in his resignation letter that he did not deliberately leave out elements of his conversations with Ambassador Sergey Kislyak when he recounted them to Vice President Mike Pence. The New York Times and Washington Post reported that the transcript of the phone call reviewed over the weekend by the White House could be read different ways. One White House official with knowledge of the conversations told me that the Russian ambassador raised the sanctions to Flynn and that Flynn responded that the Trump team would be taking office in a few weeks and would review Russia policy and sanctions. That's neither illegal nor improper.

    What's more, the Washington Post reported Monday night that last month Sally Yates, then the acting attorney general, had informed the White House that Flynn discussed sanctions with Kislyak and that he could be susceptible to blackmail because he misled Pence about it. If it was the lie to Pence that sunk Flynn, why was he not fired at the end of January?

    A better explanation here is that Flynn was just thrown under the bus. His tenure as national security adviser, the briefest in U.S. history, was rocky from the start. When Flynn was attacked in the media for his ties to Russia, he was not allowed by the White House to defend himself. Over the weekend, he was instructed not to speak to the press when he was in the fight for his political life. His staff was not even allowed to review the transcripts of his call to the Russian ambassador.

    There is another component to this story as well -- as Trump himself just tweeted. It's very rare that reporters are ever told about government-monitored communications of U.S. citizens, let alone senior U.S. officials. The last story like this to hit Washington was in 2009 when Jeff Stein, then of CQ, reported on intercepted phone calls between a senior Aipac lobbyist and Jane Harman, who at the time was a Democratic member of Congress.

    Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do.

    In the past it was considered scandalous for senior U.S. officials to even request the identities of U.S. officials incidentally monitored by the government (normally they are redacted from intelligence reports). John Bolton's nomination to be U.S. ambassador to the United Nations was derailed in 2006 after the NSA confirmed he had made 10 such requests when he was Undersecretary of State for Arms Control in George W. Bush's first term. The fact that the intercepts of Flynn's conversations with Kislyak appear to have been widely distributed inside the government is a red flag.

    Representative Devin Nunes, the Republican chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told me Monday that he saw the leaks about Flynn's conversations with Kislyak as part of a pattern. "There does appear to be a well orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and others in the administration," he said. "From the leaking of phone calls between the president and foreign leaders to what appears to be high-level FISA Court information, to the leaking of American citizens being denied security clearances, it looks like a pattern."

    Nunes said he was going to bring this up with the FBI, and ask the agency to investigate the leak and find out whether Flynn himself is a target of a law enforcement investigation. The Washington Post reported last month that Flynn was not the target of an FBI probe.

    The background here is important. Three people once affiliated with Trump's presidential campaign -- Carter Page, Paul Manafort and Roger Stone -- are being investigated by the FBI and the intelligence community for their contacts with the Russian government. This is part of a wider inquiry into Russia's role in hacking and distributing emails of leading Democrats before the election.

    Flynn himself traveled in 2015 to Russia to attend a conference put on by the country's propaganda network, RT. He has acknowledged he was paid through his speaker's bureau for his appearance. That doesn't look good, but it's also not illegal in and of itself. All of this is to say there are many unanswered questions about Trump's and his administration's ties to Russia.

    But that's all these allegations are at this point: unanswered questions. It's possible that Flynn has more ties to Russia that he had kept from the public and his colleagues. It's also possible that a group of national security bureaucrats and former Obama officials are selectively leaking highly sensitive law enforcement information to undermine the elected government.

    Flynn was a fat target for the national security state. He has cultivated a reputation as a reformer and a fierce critic of the intelligence community leaders he once served with when he was the director the Defense Intelligence Agency under President Barack Obama. Flynn was working to reform the intelligence-industrial complex, something that threatened the bureaucratic prerogatives of his rivals.

    He was also a fat target for Democrats. Remember Flynn's breakout national moment last summer was when he joined the crowd at the Republican National Convention from the dais calling for Hillary Clinton to be jailed.

    In normal times, the idea that U.S. officials entrusted with our most sensitive secrets would selectively disclose them to undermine the White House would alarm those worried about creeping authoritarianism. Imagine if intercepts of a call between Obama's incoming national security adviser and Iran's foreign minister leaked to the press before the nuclear negotiations began? The howls of indignation would be deafening.

    In the end, it was Trump's decision to cut Flynn loose. In doing this he caved in to his political and bureaucratic opposition. Nunes told me Monday night that this will not end well. "First it's Flynn, next it will be Kellyanne Conway, then it will be Steve Bannon, then it will be Reince Priebus," he said. Put another way, Flynn is only the appetizer. Trump is the entree.
    Flynn's Resignation Leaves Trump Security Team in Turmoil

    This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners.

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    Eli Lake at elake1@bloomberg.net

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    Re: Pizzagate

    Here is the follow up video by the same channel as my 518 posting. It fills in many more dots. Very good commentary.

    Flynn was a deep state target. Hillary and the swamp part of the deep state went after Flynn because he knows where all the bodies are buried, just like Stew Webb and Mr. Henaghan have been saying on their videos at Truth Warrior channel.

    I am still unclear exactly how / why Trump was forced into firing Flynn.

    They are moving forward regarding pedophile matters but it is indirect in regard to "PizzaGate."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMODz1ioONE


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    This is more follow up to my comment at 522 of this thread.

    The commentator mentioned that the Penn State administration and mainstream media rushed diligently when the scandal first broke to make it appear that the abuse only involved Sandusky, using the old "lone gunman" metaphor if you will to cover-up and contain scandals, the very wide, far reaching scandal involving many rich and famous people.

    The president of Penn State was a Jewish man named Spanier who was in office when scandal broke and was fired and replaced by a Mr. Shapiro. I cannot remember all the controversy about this but there is heavy Jewish person involvement at Penn State in all of this and in the whole pedophilia ring issue in this country.

    Anyway, I came across the name of the person who is an expert on child trafficking rings in the US and it is Nick Bryant and he has written two books and several articles and done several interviews on Franklin Coverup as well as Penn State Sandusky. Those two scandals though far apart in years are even linked as it is all a big ring with elites have contacts for their nefarious activities throughout the USA. I do not have communication with anyone who has an Internet Radio show these days but I certain wish someone would try to get author Nick Bryant on as guest on this timely important subject. I used to be able to suggest guests for Dr. Stan Monteith and one other show host but have lost contact so if anyone around here could possible make that guest suggestion, please do so.


    Here is a 2012 article on that...

    http://www.reddirtreport.com/around-...-abuse-scandal

    Now I remember Mr. Bryant's name I will be able to search out that "charitable boys club" that the elites were using via Penn State Sandusky and really the whole Penn State sports / football apparatus including well known now deceased coach Joe Paterno who had to be in on the widespread abuse going on at Penn State. Mr. Bryant in one of the interviews on Dr. Stan Monteith's Radio Liberty shows named the big donors and corporations that funded that boys organization. I want to find the name of that organization as I remember the top corporate people at Hershey Chocolate company were big top donors and apparently partakers in the pedophilia.
    OK, it was " The Second Mile Foundation ".

    http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=221807.0


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    Child Sexual Abuse at Penn State: pimping boys to rich donors
    « on: November 10, 2011, 11:11:46 AM »
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    On Thursday morning, just hours after legendary head coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier were fired by the school's board of trustees, Madden was asked on The Dennis and Callahan Show what he believes the next piece of news will be.

    What he said was twice as shocking as anything that's been released thus far.

    "I can give you a rumor and I can give you something I think might happen," Madden told John Dennis and Gerry Callahan. "I hear there's a rumor that there will be a more shocking development from the Second Mile Foundation -- and hold on to your stomachs, boys, this is gross, I will use the only language I can -- that Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors. That was being investigated by two prominent columnists even as I speak."


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    Re: Child Sexual Abuse at Penn State: pimping boys to rich donors
    « Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 11:26:20 AM »
    Jerry Sandusky's Second Mile Charity Commitment Cost Him Virginia Head Coaching Opportunity
    http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-footbal...d-mile-charity
    Nov 07 3:17p by Sean Keeley

    Former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky has been charged with sexually abusing eight children, with something like a dozen more also claiming they were victimized. That's horrible. Powerful PSU figures appear to have attempted to cover up what they knew. That makes it even worse.

    But if one rumor turns out to be true, this may become a story too awful to compare to any other.

    There's been nothing reported by an investigative journalist or law enforcement official so far, but a handful of media members are talking about investigations into whether Sandusky may have shared some of his victims with other adult males.

    From two days ago, here's Dan Bernstein of CBS Chicago:

    Dan Bernstein@dan_bernstein FYI: names are being x-checked w/Sandusky's Second Mile, and there are other older adult men with "curious" relationships. Only the start.

    Thursday morning, Mark Madden, a Pittsburgh radio host who wrote a story seven months ago envisioning Sandusky's downfall, went on WEEI's Dennis & Callahan Morning Show to discuss the scandal. At the 7:15 mark here, he's asked about the "next shoe to drop." Here are his remarks:

    I can give you a rumor, and I can give you something I think might happen. I hear there's a rumor that there will be a more shocking development from the Second Mile foundation. And, hold on to your stomachs because this is gross, I'll use the only language that I can, that Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to donors. This is being investigated by two prominent columnists as I speak.

    Madden also speculates it'll be revealed that Sandusky was told to retire as part of a cover-up.

    CBS Sports' Gregg Doyel tweeted the following later in the morning, appearing to cite a source besides Madden:

    Gregg Doyel@greggdoyelcbs I'm told Penn's atty general has this sick Sandusky rumor on the radar. Warning, awful read http://t.co/Wy4uiuiD

    =================================

    SHOCKING PENN STATE RUMOR:
    Jerry Sandusky 'Pimped Out Young Boys To Rich Donors'
    http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry...#ixzz1dJvmX4RU

    Sportswriter Mark Madden went on WEEI in Boston and reported a rumor that alleged child molester Jerry Sandusky would pimp out boys to rich donors.

    "I hear a rumor that there will be a shocking development from the Second Miles Foundation ... That Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors."

    Madden claims it's being investigated by "two prominent columnists."

    We'd say this is ridiculous, and that you should take it with a grain of salt. But Madden actually wrote about Sandusky for the Beaver County Times six months ago — long before the scandal blindsided everyone else this week.

    Madden also claimed Sandusky was forced out of Penn State in 1999.

    "I think you'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told he had to retire in exchange for a cover up."

    Sandusky retired at 55 in 1999, a year after Pennsylvania police investigated (but did not prosecute) him for allegedly molesting a boy.

    Again, label this under "RUMOR." But Madden has been out in front of this story before, so stay tuned.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry...#ixzz1dJw2dAB2

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    Re: Pizzagate

    Global Paedophilia Rings Exposed And Arrested – Where’s U.S. Press Coverage?
    16 February 2017 GMT

    Here’s coverage of a California pedophilia bust, which ought to make people wonder why it wasn’t national front page news plus a short clip on the DA’s press conference on sexual exploitation arrests across southern California.




    Canadian Version of P I Z Z A G A T E !!! Huge Ring Busted !!!




    Lastly, a huge pedophilia-sex operation was exposed in Norway. Did you hear anything about that on the nightly news? Here’s some of the information that surfaced:

    Norwegian police have filed charges against 51 people suspected of various kinds of abuse of children including babies. Even the future abuse of yet unborn children was discussed in the country’s largest ever pedophile ring. [1] [CJF emphasis added]


    MORE/LONG
    http://www.naturalblaze.com/2017/02/...pizzagate.html
    All the money that exists cannot buy Earth, and the evidence is that we destroy our habitat as a result, thinking that we can just seize and pillage as we see fit. If crowds endorse the pursuit of wealth at their own level, they cannot prevent multinationals from doing exactly the same. The “dystopian endless growth paradigm” is going to end with a bang but will open the door to a premise endorsing that Earth is the only wealth we truly have while journeying through life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dachsie View Post
    This is more follow up to my comment at 522 of this thread.

    The commentator mentioned that the Penn State administration and mainstream media rushed diligently when the scandal first broke to make it appear that the abuse only involved Sandusky, using the old "lone gunman" metaphor if you will to cover-up and contain scandals, the very wide, far reaching scandal involving many rich and famous people.

    The president of Penn State was a Jewish man named Spanier who was in office when scandal broke and was fired and replaced by a Mr. Shapiro. I cannot remember all the controversy about this but there is heavy Jewish person involvement at Penn State in all of this and in the whole pedophilia ring issue in this country.

    Anyway, I came across the name of the person who is an expert on child trafficking rings in the US and it is Nick Bryant and he has written two books and several articles and done several interviews on Franklin Coverup as well as Penn State Sandusky. Those two scandals though far apart in years are even linked as it is all a big ring with elites have contacts for their nefarious activities throughout the USA. I do not have communication with anyone who has an Internet Radio show these days but I certain wish someone would try to get author Nick Bryant on as guest on this timely important subject. I used to be able to suggest guests for Dr. Stan Monteith and one other show host but have lost contact so if anyone around here could possible make that guest suggestion, please do so.


    Here is a 2012 article on that...

    http://www.reddirtreport.com/around-...-abuse-scandal

    Now I remember Mr. Bryant's name I will be able to search out that "charitable boys club" that the elites were using via Penn State Sandusky and really the whole Penn State sports / football apparatus including well known now deceased coach Joe Paterno who had to be in on the widespread abuse going on at Penn State. Mr. Bryant in one of the interviews on Dr. Stan Monteith's Radio Liberty shows named the big donors and corporations that funded that boys organization. I want to find the name of that organization as I remember the top corporate people at Hershey Chocolate company were big top donors and apparently partakers in the pedophilia.
    OK, it was " The Second Mile Foundation ".

    http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=221807.0


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    Child Sexual Abuse at Penn State: pimping boys to rich donors
    « on: November 10, 2011, 11:11:46 AM »
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    On Thursday morning, just hours after legendary head coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier were fired by the school's board of trustees, Madden was asked on The Dennis and Callahan Show what he believes the next piece of news will be.

    What he said was twice as shocking as anything that's been released thus far.

    "I can give you a rumor and I can give you something I think might happen," Madden told John Dennis and Gerry Callahan. "I hear there's a rumor that there will be a more shocking development from the Second Mile Foundation -- and hold on to your stomachs, boys, this is gross, I will use the only language I can -- that Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors. That was being investigated by two prominent columnists even as I speak."


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    Re: Child Sexual Abuse at Penn State: pimping boys to rich donors
    « Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 11:26:20 AM »
    Jerry Sandusky's Second Mile Charity Commitment Cost Him Virginia Head Coaching Opportunity
    http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-footbal...d-mile-charity
    Nov 07 3:17p by Sean Keeley

    Former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky has been charged with sexually abusing eight children, with something like a dozen more also claiming they were victimized. That's horrible. Powerful PSU figures appear to have attempted to cover up what they knew. That makes it even worse.

    But if one rumor turns out to be true, this may become a story too awful to compare to any other.

    There's been nothing reported by an investigative journalist or law enforcement official so far, but a handful of media members are talking about investigations into whether Sandusky may have shared some of his victims with other adult males.

    From two days ago, here's Dan Bernstein of CBS Chicago:

    Dan Bernstein@dan_bernstein FYI: names are being x-checked w/Sandusky's Second Mile, and there are other older adult men with "curious" relationships. Only the start.

    Thursday morning, Mark Madden, a Pittsburgh radio host who wrote a story seven months ago envisioning Sandusky's downfall, went on WEEI's Dennis & Callahan Morning Show to discuss the scandal. At the 7:15 mark here, he's asked about the "next shoe to drop." Here are his remarks:

    I can give you a rumor, and I can give you something I think might happen. I hear there's a rumor that there will be a more shocking development from the Second Mile foundation. And, hold on to your stomachs because this is gross, I'll use the only language that I can, that Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to donors. This is being investigated by two prominent columnists as I speak.

    Madden also speculates it'll be revealed that Sandusky was told to retire as part of a cover-up.

    CBS Sports' Gregg Doyel tweeted the following later in the morning, appearing to cite a source besides Madden:

    Gregg Doyel@greggdoyelcbs I'm told Penn's atty general has this sick Sandusky rumor on the radar. Warning, awful read http://t.co/Wy4uiuiD

    =================================

    SHOCKING PENN STATE RUMOR:
    Jerry Sandusky 'Pimped Out Young Boys To Rich Donors'
    http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry...#ixzz1dJvmX4RU

    Sportswriter Mark Madden went on WEEI in Boston and reported a rumor that alleged child molester Jerry Sandusky would pimp out boys to rich donors.

    "I hear a rumor that there will be a shocking development from the Second Miles Foundation ... That Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors."

    Madden claims it's being investigated by "two prominent columnists."

    We'd say this is ridiculous, and that you should take it with a grain of salt. But Madden actually wrote about Sandusky for the Beaver County Times six months ago — long before the scandal blindsided everyone else this week.

    Madden also claimed Sandusky was forced out of Penn State in 1999.

    "I think you'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told he had to retire in exchange for a cover up."

    Sandusky retired at 55 in 1999, a year after Pennsylvania police investigated (but did not prosecute) him for allegedly molesting a boy.

    Again, label this under "RUMOR." But Madden has been out in front of this story before, so stay tuned.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry...#ixzz1dJw2dAB2
    second mile club appears to be a biblical reference:


    A Second-mile Church

    "Turn the other cheek… give your last garment… go the extra mile… love your enemies" (Matthew 5:38-48)

    A. At this point I am desperate to explain how this text does not mean what it really says.

    1. I would like to appeal to "oriental exaggeration" or "rhetorical hyperbole" as a way to diffuse the power of these words to upset my life. I would like to do this but I can’t.

    2. Though Jesus does not expect a slavishly literal application of the examples He offers (see John 18:22, 23; Matthew 21:12-17), it is none-the-less clear that He is calling for a new and different response to the people who try to exploit us.

    B. What does it mean to "go the second mile?"

    1. It means to rise above the instinctive desire to "strike back," "get even," or "settle the score" and to meet evil with good.

    2. It means to swallow pride and abandon self-interest. It means to be slow to anger and quick to forgive. It means to live by grace in the face of the unfair.

    C. Why should we do this?

    1. To master the power of passive resistance? To shame the sinner into repentance? To these potential benefits Jesus does not appeal.

    2. Do this, He says, because God acts like this toward us (see Matthew 5:45; also Romans 5:7).

    http://www.god-answers.org/Online_To...mons/0Mile.htm

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    https://www.johndenugent.com/english...war-on-israel/

    Wikipedia: Ray Frank Gricar, born October 9, 1945, missing April 15, 2005, declared legally dead July 25, 2011, was an American attorney who served as the district attorney of Centre County, Pennsylvania, from 1985 until 2005. On April 15, 2005, Gricar went missing under mysterious circumstances and has not been heard from since.



    ABC News (Nov. 8, 2011): Ray Gricar served as the district attorney for Pennsylvania’s Centre County in 1998 when Sandusky was accused of sexually abusing several boys. After an extensive investigation, which included testimony by two law enforcement officers that they had overheard Sandusky admitting to showering with multiple young boys, Gricar decided no criminal charges would be filed, according to recent court documents. Sandusky retired the next year. Then, in April 2005, Gricar disappeared.



    His car was found abandoned in a Lewisburg, Pa., parking lot and his laptop’s hard drive was recovered from the nearby Susquehannna River, but there was no other trace of Gricar. No clues could be gleaned from the severely damaged hard drive and despite a six-year investigation that involved the FBI and international help, police have as little an idea today about what happened to the former DA as they did then. “We literally used every single resource, national and international,” Bellefonte, Pa., police chief Shawn Weaver told ABC News. “This is baffling. He literally just disappeared off the face of the earth.”

    District Attorney Gricar’s friends said he was happy, successful and not in the least bit suicidal. I BELIEVE HE WAS MURDERED BY THE VILE PEDOPHILE NETWORK! And how about this? The next DA of Centre County, in 2009, Michael Madeira, who �won all of the cases he prosecuted� (CollegianOnline, February 2, 2009) and announced he would run for re-election, suddenly dropped out later that year as a grand jury began investigating Sandusky! Hmmmm once again… Sounds like PEDOPHILE TERRORISM!

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    Thanks for good posting regarding important matter of trying to deal with this evil in the way Christ would have us react and behave. Christ's way is sacrifice and penance and using our sufferings to offer love and penance for our own sins and to love others as Christ loves us.

    The verse about going the extra mile verse was right on. It is so pathetic the way Christian precepts are twisted for base worldly evil actions.

    To me the right understanding of going the extra mile also means just walk along side someone who is struggling and has a much to overcome in their future life journey. When the poor person is stumbling and about to fall you keep on walking along side and holding them up, supporting them, so they can continue the journey. Just knowing someone is there to catch you if you fall is giving strength and endurance and the walking becomes less of a struggle after a while so that eventually the poor person (poor in spirit) will be strong enough to meet whatever meets them on their road in Christ's way and become the helping person to some other poor person who comes along. That sure is not what was going on with those Second Mile Foundation benefactors and victims.

    I feel so disgusted that Catholic Charities used to run several Catholic orphanages and adoption agencies all over the USA but each state or most states have now put them out of business because they would not adopt out children to same sex "married" couples. Now it looks like the only adoption agencies that are still financially solvent and legally allowed to operate are part of pedophilia rings and child traffiking.

    The sermon on the mount in Mathew's gospel also explains how Christ came preaching a whole new way of living life. I like to say, especially to those who like the term "Judeo-Christian God and such as David Seaman said recently, that no, Christ is a stark departure from the old Judaic system. Christ is God and he is the God of all times, yesterday, today and tomorrow. It was a whole new ballgame when the Messiah came. I get upset when Catholic teachers like to give talks and classes on "The Jewish Roots of the Church." Yes there are "Jewish Roots" in Christianity but I find it very strange that no one ever gives classes and teachings about how very unique and new and hard to accept Christ's teaching were and yet miraculously it took hold and basically all the leaders of the the Church were Jews. The novus ordo "church" has become very protestant in this regard, constantly pointing to Old Testament scriptures and teachings.

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    Re: Pizzagate

    Supposedly this recording is John Podesta

    https://scontent.fbog2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...d1&oe=59392EAE
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    I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS, THIS IS JOHN PODESTA TORTURING THESE CHILDREN! PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO AND MAKE IT GO VIRAL!


    Suzie-Q on Twitter
    “WARNING: GRAPHIC Hey @johnpodesta care to explain whats going on in this sick video you took? *Watch until end for voice comparison. https://t.co/rNwp4klGlC
    TWITTER.COM|BY SUZIE-Q








    The only thing declared necessary in the Constitution & Bill of Rights is the #2A Militia of the several States.
    “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a freeState”
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    Re: Pizzagate

    Quote Originally Posted by monty View Post
    Supposedly this recording is John Podesta

    https://scontent.fbog2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...d1&oe=59392EAE
    Grace Marrero11 hrs · Twitter


    I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS, THIS IS JOHN PODESTA TORTURING THESE CHILDREN! PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO AND MAKE IT GO VIRAL!


    Suzie-Q on Twitter
    “WARNING: GRAPHIC Hey @johnpodesta care to explain whats going on in this sick video you took? *Watch until end for voice comparison. https://t.co/rNwp4klGlC
    TWITTER.COM|BY SUZIE-Q








    You will have to describe it for me. I am not clicking any link related to pedo stuff.
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    Re: Pizzagate

    Quote Originally Posted by osoab View Post

    You will have to describe it for me. I am not clicking any link related to pedo stuff.
    It is like a video with a recording of a mans voice and kids screaming. At the end it has a graphical anaysis of voice in the recording and of John Podesta's voice. The graphs are a perfect match. I didn't listen to the recording, I fast forwarded to the end to see the graphs.

    this link goes directly to the recording on twitter

    https://mobile.twitter.com/suziedaud...379716/video/1

    screenshots from the video

    https://s19.postimg.org/yiv79l0rn/IMG_1505.png

    https://s19.postimg.org/q1voynw2r/IMG_1506.png

    https://s19.postimg.org/5vs6zs0f7/IMG_1507.png
    The only thing declared necessary in the Constitution & Bill of Rights is the #2A Militia of the several States.
    “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a freeState”
    https://ConstitutionalMilitia.org


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