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    Re: Flat earthers are a real hoot

    I don't think man could possibly know the Creator or the plan. That is way above our pay grade. Knowing that there is a creator and that the plan is ever changing, that is a different thing.

    As for as religions, I see them as all cults. Used to keep the masses in line and propagate group think. Once they have too many roaming free, another religion comes along to herd them back in.
    All of the books are written and published by man. Do you not think they are written for the benefactors and future generation of the writers? The rest are dupes.

    I am more leaning to the simulation theory. Our realm is too perfect in a sense.

    Now for flat earth. I do not know how far you have delved into the questions presented.

    Shape, who knows.

    The sun and moon are much closer and much smaller.

    Flight maps displayed over the currently used F.E. map run in nice straight lines.
    These also line up with emergency landings that have been made that made no sense in the globe flight path.

    We see to far. With long range digital telescopes, we are seeing objects up to 20 -50 miles further away than we should. Depends on the air at the time.

    Water always maintains it's level.

    I spent years looking for a good argument against. It's not there.

    The worst part about it is the strawman personal attacks and sometimes outright hatred along with name calling. That only happens when you might be on target.

    I would say each of our versions change everyday on many things. Up until 2014, I still had some respect for the medical industry. Up until 2020, I had some respect for vaccines. Up until 2000, I had respect for the justice system. Until I was 3-4, I believed in Santa Claus.
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    Re: Flat earthers are a real hoot

    I don't think man could possibly know the Creator or the plan.
    I submit that's because you lack faith, suggest you seek the Lord and pray.

    The worst part about it is the strawman personal attacks and sometimes outright hatred along with name calling. That only happens when you might be on target.
    That can also be the result of coming across as loopy.


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    I don't think man could possibly know the Creator or the plan.
    I get input from The Source ALL the time. This input can come in the form of what I call 'course corrections', some of which I refer to as 'soft' and others 'hard'. I welcome the soft course corrections and I really, really don't care at all for the hard course corrections therefore I take pains to make sure I'm in harmony with the Lord's Plan (yes, this meaning praying and being still to listen).

    George Harrison wrote about what I call course corrections in his song This is Love:

    Little things that will
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    Way out of the blue
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    Who don't understand



    The entire direction of my company was altered by someone sending a wrong pallet of material to a job by happenstance, as only one example. It was a VERY minor thing, seeming inconsequential to outside parties yet it caused me to completely change course for the next several years, it was a fairly major hard course correction, and extremely unpleasant. The reason it was somewhat painless, considering the extent of the damages, is that I treat my customers with Christian values and I had built up a LOT of slack (with party who took the brunt of the heat) over the course of years. What goes 'round comes 'round...do good and good things happen.
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    Re: Flat earthers are a real hoot

    If Jesus turns you off then may I suggest the Church of the Subgenius? Suggest you stick to the original Book of the Subgenius from 1980 and not deviate into anything else, for the past several years the Church of the Subgenius has been infiltrated by reprobates (mainly because it's so fucking cool, who doesn't want Slack?).

    http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...The-Stark-Fist!
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    “You know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.” --1 Thessalonians 5:2

    I can affirm from personal, first hand experience this is the case, death can be on you in a FLASH...ya better be ready!
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    Re: Flat earthers are a real hoot

    Flat Earthers are straight up morons. I debated one in a Telegram channel. I asked for a working flat Earth model that accounted for the seasons, as well as explain why the star patterns are different. Example people living in the southern hemisphere on "globe Earth" are not able to see Orion, or the north star." People in the nothern hemisphere are not able to see the southern cross. Can you show me a flat Earth model that can explain that phenomenon?

    Then it dived into name calling. It got worse when I posted a video of a flat Earth idiot attempting to prove the Earth was flat only ending up with the results that the Earth was round.

    This is the result of uneducated people who know they've been lied to their whole lives and are too uneducated to do the calculations themselves. Those that do end up with a spherical model of the Earth as time and math has proven.

    He attempted to say you can't prove that "globe earth" spins, and I responded with the Coriolis effect does, and has been used for long range projectile trajectories for a long time to compensate for Earth's rotation while the projectile is in flight.

    I get it, we've all been lied too, but flat earthers are a whole different crowd who make trying to explain flat earth a religion all on their own.
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    Re: Flat earthers are a real hoot

    "Flat Earthers are straight up morons"

    The chief engineer of Harnishfeger once told me he had to provide testimony on the stand in a product liability suit. He was coached by the company attorney to preface each statement he made with the phrase "If I understand the question then my response would be ...". He was told that if he got down from that stand with everyone there believing he was the most dumb individual who ever lived that would be the closest his company could get to winning.

    Moral is acting smart is actually pretty dumb.

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    Re: Flat earthers are a real hoot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post
    Flat Earthers are straight up morons. I debated one in a Telegram channel. I asked for a working flat Earth model that accounted for the seasons, as well as explain why the star patterns are different. Example people living in the southern hemisphere on "globe Earth" are not able to see Orion, or the north star." People in the nothern hemisphere are not able to see the southern cross. Can you show me a flat Earth model that can explain that phenomenon?

    Then it dived into name calling. It got worse when I posted a video of a flat Earth idiot attempting to prove the Earth was flat only ending up with the results that the Earth was round.

    This is the result of uneducated people who know they've been lied to their whole lives and are too uneducated to do the calculations themselves. Those that do end up with a spherical model of the Earth as time and math has proven.

    He attempted to say you can't prove that "globe earth" spins, and I responded with the Coriolis effect does, and has been used for long range projectile trajectories for a long time to compensate for Earth's rotation while the projectile is in flight.

    I get it, we've all been lied too, but flat earthers are a whole different crowd who make trying to explain flat earth a religion all on their own.
    Ad Hominem attacks are not excused. I haven't seen many of the "main" flat earthers lose their cool. They are too used to it. Normally it is the globers when debating the flat earthers that spew the ad hominemns.
    I have watched many viscous debate tactics from the globe side. Normally just name calling and say "NASA".

    Seasons are are easy with the in and out movement of the sun within the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn.

    Listening to interviews with long range navy gunners, they do not calculate any Coriolis effect. They target L.O.S. from 20-50 miles away. That does not work on the ball earth curvature. Light house are another thing. Distance seen and calculated curvature do not match.
    There are not many that will go public with their names, they will get fired, demoted, ostracized.

    There was a lady pilot I think from the Netherlands that went public, she lost here permit to fly. She agreed that they never nose down at cruising altitude to account for the curvature. They fly up, level off, cruise, land down.
    Another engineer was threatened with his license. He went silent to stay in his profession. His videos are "Balls Out Flat Earth" I think. His channel is gone but vids are still available.

    The worst part of any truther community, whether gold, Jan 6, vaccines, chemtrails, 911, JFK, etc. there are always morons joining in and thinking they are the smartest in the world now. They are too dumb to know they are dumb.
    Then you have the paid shills that are there to obfuscate and peddle complete horse malarkey to those curious. It is a complete turnoff to any curious.

    I looked for the best arguments for years to step back from this ledge. I am still over the ledge. Way down the rabbit hole.
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    Re: Flat earthers are a real hoot

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    Ad Hominem attacks are not excused. I haven't seen many of the "main" flat earthers lose their cool. They are too used to it. Normally it is the globers when debating the flat earthers that spew the ad hominemns.
    I have watched many viscous debate tactics from the globe side. Normally just name calling and say "NASA".

    Seasons are are easy with the in and out movement of the sun within the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn.
    Then show a working model of it. Explaining is easy, I want an actual working model that shows it, show me actual temperature variations per sun movement over flat earth. Show me why star patterns are different per hemisphere (or regions on flat earth) and why one side cannot see patterns on the other side on flat earth. On flat earth, "north" and "South" should see the same star patterns no matter where they are standing on the surface.

    Listening to interviews with long range navy gunners, they do not calculate any Coriolis effect. They target L.O.S. from 20-50 miles away. That does not work on the ball earth curvature. Light house are another thing. Distance seen and calculated curvature do not match.
    There are not many that will go public with their names, they will get fired, demoted, ostracized.
    Wrong, former military and I can tell you for a FACT that Corneilus effect is accounted for, at least was before missile technology. Try hitting a target 20-25 miles away with a flight time of close to a minute. Let me know how it works out without taking it into account.
    Why does a projectile always deflect to the right in the northern hemisphere, but deflects to the left in the southern hemisphere? I want a flat earthers answer on that one. I still haven't gotten one, just like I haven't gotten an actual working model of the seasons that explain why only half the planet at a time experiences seasons. Globe, northern summer, southern winter and vice versa.

    There was a lady pilot I think from the Netherlands that went public, she lost here permit to fly. She agreed that they never nose down at cruising altitude to account for the curvature. They fly up, level off, cruise, land down.
    Why the hell would you "nose down to account for earths curvature"? That makes absolutely zero sense. The earth is massive compared to a plane, it's so small in comparison it would never have to "be nose down" to accommodate Earths curvature.



    The worst part of any truther community, whether gold, Jan 6, vaccines, chemtrails, 911, JFK, etc. there are always morons joining in and thinking they are the smartest in the world now. They are too dumb to know they are dumb.
    Then you have the paid shills that are there to obfuscate and peddle complete horse malarkey to those curious. It is a complete turnoff to any curious.

    I looked for the best arguments for years to step back from this ledge. I am still over the ledge. Way down the rabbit hole.
    Agreed, flat earthers are one of them. They cling to it as if it was a religion. On flat earth, why can't I stand on the top of a building on a shore on the east coast and see the lights of Europe with a telecope? I mean the Earth is flat, and water will always find the ultimate level will it not? I should be able with an 8-10 inch mirror telescope be able to see Europe, or at least lights of Europe in the night.
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    Re: Flat earthers are a real hoot

    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    Flat earthers just cannot agree on much of anything except 'the earth is flat!'. This fellow says, "...everything we know about Jesus Christ and God...doesn't apply any more* (because of what lies beyond 'the ice wall')." Just to 7:20 in this video to hear that bit of wisdom from someone who's apparently an authority on what's beyond 'the ice wall.'

    *just one example of why I think this is a psyop to drive the unsaved away from Christianity

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