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Horn

8th February 2013, 07:31 AM

You're basing the elevation on the information that they told you was on the black box.

You're hopeless, you can see with your own eyes the difference in elevation between the bridge and the Pentagon floor in all the photos.

A boeing cannot do that, at speeds needed, over the short distance.

mamboni

8th February 2013, 09:15 AM

Deja vu in spades: this is a replay of the vigorous arguments about 911 and the WTC collapses where no matter what evidence was presented Halo would would obfuscate and confuse the discussion with red herrings, non sequetars and failing that, blatant insults and condescending sarcasm. Trying to arrive at the truth whilst argung with the Joo is akin to a dog chasing it's tail - don't waste your time. He's not here to learn or instruct - he's here to waste your time and exhaust you.

steel_ag

8th February 2013, 09:23 AM

http://www.gnosticmedia.com/vinny-eastwood-interviews-jan-irvin/

joboo

8th February 2013, 12:11 PM

You're hopeless, you can see with your own eyes the difference in elevation between the bridge and the Pentagon floor in all the photos.

A boeing cannot do that, at speeds needed, over the short distance.

...and you're still trusting that the liars, who fabricated this ultra elaborate scheme, provided you with you accurate information. You are trusting them all of the sudden. Why?

You posted the pilots for truth video re:impossible G forces.....all based on data that was released twice, and changed once...from the people you're accusing of lying about everything.

It's one gigantic highly elaborate fabrication...where is the trust factor coming from?

old steel

8th February 2013, 12:21 PM

9/11 Conspiracy Writer Dead in 'Murder/Suicide"

Phillip Marshall wrote about conspiracy. Was he a victim of one? '9/11 Truther' Phillip Marshall and his entire family were recently found dead of gunshot wounds in what authorities are calling a murder suicide. Marshall was a former airline pilot and a '9/11 Conspiracy Theorist' and book writer who believed that the Bush administration, with cooperation from Saudi intelligence, had committed the 'false flag' terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001. Marshall was also a former CIA and DEA pilot during the Iran/Contra Scandal. Marshall lived in fear for his life while writing his 9/11 Truther book implicating the United States government and George W. Bush in the 'false flag' attacks. Has the US government begun an all out assault on whistle blowers and so-called truthers? That would certainly put at least 50% of Beforeitsnews readers and reporters/contributors in jeapordy of a drone strike or 'accident' for merely seeking truth. The excellent videos below share that many Americans believe that this was another HIT upon a man who knew too much and was willing to share his information with the world. Why'd THEY kill his family, and dog, too? Was that REALLY NECESSARY George Bush?
http://beforeitsnews.com/9-11-and-ground-zero/2013/02/911-researcher-found-dead-wrote-book-implicating-bush-administration-in-the-911-attacks-2439534.html?utm_content=beforeit39snews%E2%80%8B-floatingtoolbar&utm_campaign=&utm_source=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook%E2%80%8B.com% 2Fl.php%3Fu%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Faw%E2%80%8Be.sm%2 52FfDkrV%26h%3DrAQGQne29%26s%3D1&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fawe.sm%2FfDkrV%E2%80%8B&utm_medium=twitter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po6uP8w2kwI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG7chyHaG4s

Horn

8th February 2013, 03:22 PM

9/11 Conspiracy Writer Dead in 'Murder/Suicide"

Deserves its own thread after this one devolved into kindergarten class.

Serpo

8th February 2013, 03:28 PM

Deserves its own thread after this one devolved into kindergarten class.

It has its own thread

joboo

8th February 2013, 03:29 PM

Deserves its own thread after this one devolved into kindergarten class.

I'm just trying to follow your logic. You haven't explained it yet. You're saying everything was elaborately fabricated by liars, then you're turning around and saying their data is valid.

Which is it?

Horn

8th February 2013, 03:30 PM

It has its own thread

So you're leaving me wandering?

Don't you know I've been in this one for weeks, there's no clear way out...

Serpo

8th February 2013, 03:33 PM

So you're leaving me wandering?

Don't you know I've been in this one for weeks, there's no clear way out...

forget it and leave
at S
http://www.moillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/bSgDo.jpg (http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=7zb7FsNsHkvIBM&tbnid=rSOZFeAK6xo-JM:&ved=0CAgQjRwwADgf&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moillusions.com%2F2010%2F04%2 Ffloating-maze-optical-illusion.html&ei=CX0VUfGWM8TkkgWCyoHIBA&psig=AFQjCNGVo2nu8XRr2JTP7x7r27cHtS_1Cw&ust=1360449161875478)

Horn

8th February 2013, 03:33 PM

You're saying everything was elaborately fabricated by liars,

Joboo, the next time you accuse another person here with putting words in your mouth,

I'll hope you remember how grossly you neglect and employ that which offends you.

joboo

8th February 2013, 03:42 PM

Joboo, the next time you accuse another person here with putting words in your mouth,

I'll hope you remember how grossly you neglect and employ that which offends you.

If you're saying it's a missile, and you are, then are we not dealing with some kind of elaborate fabrication?

I'm stating the obvious on what you've already maintained at great length.

How am I putting words in your mouth?

???

Serpo

8th February 2013, 03:45 PM

http://img.geocaching.com/cache/large/5bc1f604-c809-47f4-85f2-7a427e97d015.gif (http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=RvraZybMIPybrM&tbnid=sGfs0t-SrTovHM:&ved=0CAgQjRwwADhM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geocaching.com%2Fseek%2Fcache _details.aspx%3Fguid%3D7e88beb6-3b7c-4a83-97b1-8b7b5cea2f1b&ei=3n8VUZq7LcH3mAX7y4GICw&psig=AFQjCNENBTO7zurWaZRocZZCcgm3jpmimw&ust=1360449886783386)

joboo

8th February 2013, 03:48 PM

It's all very simple. Identify the logic you are using to form your conclusions.

It's not a lot to ask.

Cebu_4_2

8th February 2013, 03:56 PM

Who the fuck are you to be asking anyone anything? Your just a derailing jew shill.

joboo

8th February 2013, 04:06 PM

Anyhow...

If you say you don't trust something, and turn around in the next breath, and say you trust it....that makes no sense.

It can't be both ways.

You can't cherry pick data to form a conclusion, and not expect to be asked for clarification as to why.

Horn

8th February 2013, 04:15 PM

You can't cherry pick data to form a conclusion, and not expect to be asked for clarification as to why.

Nobody is cherry picking data.

You are neglecting the obvious, or oblivious to it.

Are you suggesting that every single photo from 911 Pentagon is photo chopped?

joboo

8th February 2013, 04:20 PM

Nobody is cherry picking data.

You are neglecting the obvious, or oblivious to it.

Are you suggesting that every single photo from 911 Pentagon is photo chopped?

See, but you are. Now were getting somewhere.

What evidence do you think is real, and what evidence do you think is part of the deception?

Serpo

8th February 2013, 04:21 PM

Who the fuck are you to be asking anyone anything? Your just a derailing jew shill.--)

Horn

8th February 2013, 04:26 PM

See, but you are. Now were getting somewhere.

What evidence do you think is real, and what evidence do you think is part of the deception?

Now you're just being plain rude, by answering a question with another question.

joboo

8th February 2013, 04:38 PM

Now you're just being plain rude, by answering a question with another question.

I think you're perhaps over reacting.

You have to be willing to think that if they went to such great lengths to fabricate this event...then what evidence do you believe, and what do you dismiss?

It's a very good question.

Cebu_4_2

8th February 2013, 04:45 PM

It's a very good question. skooling us again huh?

joboo

8th February 2013, 05:16 PM

Are you beginning to understand why they ran a live simulation on that day..and the same on 7/7, and back in 93?

PatColo

8th February 2013, 08:59 PM

And when Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory Pentagon show aired in Dec '10, making a very no-HAHP-friendly case; the 911B HAHP clique were howling their ridicule & disgust the following day, having only giving it 2nd Class posting visibility on their Blogs page. Full show, 43 mins:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ14NRbT-s

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-12-1...ckfull-episode (http://911blogger.com/news/2010-12-18/conspiracy-theory-gov-jesse-ventura-911-pentagon-attackfull-episode)

Above YT is dead, removed at request of TruTV, hmmmm....

here's another,
9/11 Pentagon Attack -- Conspiracy Theory' with Gov. Jesse Ventura -- Full Episode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ZdGCS_QCg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ZdGCS_QCg

joobo, as the self-posturing 'sane & rational' 911 researcher you are, what role if any do you speculate "Arab/Muslim Jihadists" played in 911? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2820%29.gif

You on the other hand....and you make it RACISThttp://www.kosher-directory.com/images/Ok.gif (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?67136-High-Ranking-US-Major-General-Exposes-September-11-High&p=610133&viewfull=1#post610133) on top of it all!
please quote whatever I wrote which triggered your highly tuned waycism-detector... again...???Go back and take a look.right-o, looked again, still find no indication of your views on either what role if any you speculate "Arab/Muslim Jihadists" played in 911, nor on what specific quote written by me has triggered your highly tuned waycism-detector... again...

please advise, ???

still eagerly waiting... :|~... 'like deja vu all over again' (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65704-Alex-Jones-taken-behind-the-Woodshed&p=594636&viewfull=1#post594636)...:rolleyes:

Cebu_4_2

8th February 2013, 09:29 PM

Dude that thing is like a maze and my best try I cant get into the second level.

Horn

8th February 2013, 10:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ZdGCS_QCg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ZdGCS_QCg

Pretty good show to explain the obvious.

The one chain link in the conspiracy that seemed left undone was where the bodies were identified.

Maybe it would hit too close to home speaking about the dead.

On a side note where do they grow the genetic info. for these dupli-soul robot women?

http://securitydebrief.com/wp-content/uploads/Homeland-Security-Show.jpg

PatColo

8th February 2013, 10:53 PM

^ Hufschmid's "Painful Deceptions" speculated about the pentagon/dna question... mere speculation of course but perfectly plausible, and his docu' was first (full length) to hit the scene back around '02 or so, pentagon segment:
The Painful Deception of 9/11 (3of12) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n96Lxjdq3A4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n96Lxjdq3A4

full:
9/11 - Painful Deceptions - (Full Length). (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5wkyEDIxTk)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5wkyEDIxTk

Cebu- it's a maze (reply 274), but half that dialog is on the prior page, so I just put together the key parts to ensure it didn't get lost in joobo-squid-ink.

If joobo remains silent wrt further explanation particularly of her "RACISThttp://www.kosher-directory.com/images/Ok.gif (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?67136-High-Ranking-US-Major-General-Exposes-September-11-High&p=610133&viewfull=1#post610133)" personal attack against me, then her banning from GSUS would be perfectly appropriate. Normally my attitude re the obvious shills is aligned with mamboni's here (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?67228-A-thread-to-ban-Joboo&p=610017&viewfull=1#post610017)... but baseless personal attacks as it appears she's committed above, and has failed to either clarify or redact, crosses the line into BIGOTRYhttp://www.kosher-directory.com/images/Ok.gif & HATEhttp://www.kosher-directory.com/images/Ok.gif (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?67136-High-Ranking-US-Major-General-Exposes-September-11-High&p=610133&viewfull=1#post610133). :(

joboo

8th February 2013, 11:32 PM

Are you beginning to understand why they ran a live simulation on that day..and the same on 7/7, and back in 93?

To keep people divided, and arguing while the perpetrators sit back, and watch the confusion just like the left right paradigm?

Correct.

Horn

9th February 2013, 10:13 AM

To keep people divided, and arguing while the perpetrators sit back, and watch the confusion just like the left right paradigm?

Correct.

Though the forum is unanimous in its verdict.

joboo

9th February 2013, 12:34 PM

Though the forum is unanimous in its verdict.

Is the forum the truth movement re: pentag0n on 9II?....no it's not.

Are you still 100% right, or have you thought about how you might not be after all?

Serpo

9th February 2013, 03:57 PM

The US has tried to silence a national hero’s eyewitness account of the September 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City, Press TV reports.

“Actually, there was an initial explosion in the basement seconds before the plane hit. I spoke about it - they didn’t want me to talk about it,” said William Rodriguez, a janitor working for 20 years in the North Tower of the World Trade Center buildings.

Rodriguez was responsible for single-handedly saving at least 15 people, rescuing thousands of survivors while assisting firefighters during the attacks, and subsequently raising 122 million dollars for the victims of 9/11.

“My story, which I was recognized as a national hero, doesn’t show up anywhere on the report because my story basically destroys the official one because of the explosion,” said Rodriguez.

The American hero believes the so-called 9/11 report is incorrect while the truth is yet to be revealed, as questions remain unanswered including the fact that the government trained Osama bin Laden who “was given support for the Afghan rebels to fight with the Russians.”

“As a matter of fact, I did an interview with a former FBI director who on camera told me that he met with Osama bin Laden in the United States, and he helped put together a care package of 155 million dollars in weapons for the Afghan rebels,” Rodriguez said.

Rodriguez went on to reveal that the US government opened a compensation fund awarding USD1.6-3 million to the victims of the families if they agreed not to sue the US government.

“The federal government created a federal compensation fund which was a fund to basically alleviate the pain of the families by basically paying them and, actually, also for families to avoid the lawsuits,” Rodriguez concluded.

On September 11, 2001, a series of coordinated attacks were carried out in the United States leaving almost 3,000 people dead.

The US, under the administration of former President George W. Bush, invaded Afghanistan in 2001 after claiming that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by members of al-Qaeda harbored by the then Taliban regime in Afghanistan.

The US also attacked Iraq in 2003 claiming that the Middle Eastern country was in possession of weapons of mass destruction. Washington’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have claimed the lives of more than a million people.

VID...........at link

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/06/287599/us-silences-national-hero-over-911/

mick silver

10th February 2013, 11:08 AM

“The federal government created a federal compensation fund which was a fund to basically alleviate the pain of the families by basically paying them and, actually, also for families to avoid the lawsuits,” Rodriguez concluded. ...................... has this ever been done before in this country ?

joboo

12th February 2013, 04:39 PM

Recommended viewing. Re: missile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kccd1EvObNI

Horn

12th February 2013, 04:47 PM

Recommended viewing. Re: missile

Well he's a pigheaded moron when presented with the evidence that a boeing cannot complete the flight path.

There is zero evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon, other than the planted scraps.

joboo

12th February 2013, 04:50 PM

Well he's a pigheaded moron when presented with the evidence that a boeing cannot complete the flight path.

There is zero evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon, other than the planted scraps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOSIwrZk75Q&feature=player_embedded

Horn

12th February 2013, 04:52 PM

I rest my case, just looking at the still frame.

There was eyewitness evidence of a jet flying away, he lied there.

also several others saying the flight path was in fact different.

He says he sees landing gear in front of the hole yet he doesn't provide the photo.

joboo

12th February 2013, 04:55 PM

I rest my case, just looking at the still frame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOSIwrZk75Q&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kccd1EvObNI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1cT8WWt61eg

Watch the above video(s) until it sinks in.

7th trump

12th February 2013, 05:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOSIwrZk75Q&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kccd1EvObNI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1cT8WWt61eg

Watch the above video(s) until it sinks in.

Really?............you want us to beleive this dickheads personal OPINION when there is no evidence a plane what so ever.
No titanium engines....no residual aircraft fuel....nothing!

joboo

12th February 2013, 05:06 PM

Really?............you want us to beleive this dickheads personal OPINION when there is no evidence a plane what so ever.
No titanium engines....no residual aircraft fuel....nothing!

All the evidence is shown and explained if you took the time to watch them.

The landing gear was up, and punched through C. Here is the side profile of the building, and how it's all connected inside.

It entered at E...landing gear was found at C punched through the wall. The landing gear is live a javelin in the up position due to tensile strength. It's not some specialized magic flight path missile that caused it. The landing gear was found sitting at ring C at the hole.

http://www.oilempire.us/oil-jpg/pentagon-rings.jpg

Bottom line is there is are still a group of people duped by the loose change lies, that refuse to admit the obvious, or really think about it.

Horn

12th February 2013, 05:10 PM

All the evidence is shown and explained if you took the time to watch them.

The landing gear was up, and punched through C. Here is the side profile of the building, and how it's all connected inside.

It entered at E...loanding gear was found at C punched through the wall.

http://www.oilempire.us/oil-jpg/pentagon-rings.jpg

Bottom line is there is are still a group of people duped by the loose change lies, that refuse to admit the obvious, or really think about it.

Where is the photo of landing gear in front of the hole? Not that it is even possible.

This picture you provide is some cook's rendition of nothing.

joboo

12th February 2013, 05:28 PM

Where is the photo of landing gear in front of the hole? Not that it is even possible.

This picture you provide is some cook's rendition of nothing.

Not all of the rings are separate everywhere, they are interconnected. That's how the building is. You do realize the clean up crew made the hole in the wall much larger than it was originally from the impact in order to access it, and clean it up right?

Horn

12th February 2013, 05:29 PM

What's wrong with this picture, joboo?

4438

Specifically the track taken by the left side engine.

joboo

12th February 2013, 05:36 PM

Debris cleared from the C ring hole that was labeled in spray paint "punch out" by the cleanup crew, which they did (enlarged the hole to make it large enough) to remove this:

https://lh3.ggpht.com/_PcI9awojNLQ/Rwt1IdNXFXI/AAAAAAAAAyE/mRqXfTzBr4o/s640/rottami_aereo_Pentagono.jpghttps://lh3.ggpht.com/_PcI9awojNLQ/RwuBRNNXFaI/AAAAAAAAAyc/U6t9ac0jtwg/s640/rottami_003.jpg
https://lh3.ggpht.com/_PcI9awojNLQ/RwuS_NNXFbI/AAAAAAAAAyk/dwLaU4J3U20/s640/b757-main-wheel-01.jpg

Horn

12th February 2013, 05:41 PM

http://www.gamelogos.com/temp/pentanimxox2.gif
.http://clintjcl.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/911-pentagon-simulation-of-how-the-pentagon-video-should-have-looked-like.gif

Horn

12th February 2013, 05:43 PM

Debris cleared from the C ring hole that was labeled in spray paint "punch out" by the cleanup crew, which they did (enlarged the hole to make it large enough) to remove this:

Not a Boeing 757, if the photo was even taken at the Pentagon.

There is no hole...

That could be New York.

Santa

12th February 2013, 05:46 PM

Hahahaha... those are old rusty junkyard parts. What a laugh.

joboo

12th February 2013, 05:55 PM

Not so sure about the rusty junkyard claim.

More debris: Wheel rim, and tire visible.
https://lh3.ggpht.com/-TfurIhK67OU/Tno-W1nHsDI/AAAAAAAAILU/dwW5q8MB1IM/s640/xx_image_017.jpg
https://lh3.ggpht.com/-Lu2x5_1N0ck/Tno-VDqif5I/AAAAAAAAILI/mdv38BDbzrA/s640/xx_image_014.jpg
https://lh3.ggpht.com/-1UV3ST23EAg/Tno8Y8eZZSI/AAAAAAAAIKo/x9UeVs0K3hY/s640/x_image_014.jpg
https://lh3.ggpht.com/-0XkASsYB3qA/Tno8YwFvWUI/AAAAAAAAIKs/6DAbXxoV78E/s640/x_image_012.jpg
https://lh3.ggpht.com/-6ZQDlzu9pZk/Tno-WEJsLNI/AAAAAAAAILQ/gsRtlx8IIT0/s640/xx_image_012.jpg

It seems you guys haven't even tried to play devils advocate on the whole missile argument to see how completely asinine the logic ends up being to make it all work.

Horn

12th February 2013, 05:56 PM

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pentagon/docs/757outline.jpg

44ft-6" that puts it about level with the fifth floor, if the path were even possible in the first place.

4439

Santa

12th February 2013, 06:03 PM

That garbage and junk looks exactly like it was dumped in there from the back of a truck. LOL

joboo

12th February 2013, 06:03 PM

^ More obfuscated loose change deception nonsense photos. The hole was ample size to fit the profile.

Santa

12th February 2013, 06:09 PM

It's rusted out junkyard wreckage. Just look at it. It had to have been sitting outside for years for the internal parts to get that rusty.

Horn

12th February 2013, 06:13 PM

Not so sure about the rusty junkyard claim.

More debris: Wheel rim, and tire visible.

The Devil's advocate also sees the night crew's military vehicle used to ship in the extra material as the pile grew from earlier in the day,

evidence by the anarchy symbols sprayed on the wall.

joboo

12th February 2013, 06:13 PM

That garbage and junk looks exactly like it was dumped in there from the back of a truck. LOL

Let me guess, it's from the missile right?

I wish you guys would see how incredibly stupid, and self destructive the missile angle is to the truth movement.

What...the plane flew over top? It went right there, and magically flew away at the last second, it and all the people, magically disappeared, but they found chunks of the passengers and DNA matched them?

All they had to do was use the plane heading straight for it, but at the last second a magic missile appeared out of nowhere, knocking down light poles with witnesses seeing a plane all over the place, and the plane suddenly disappeared but the passengers remained dead inside the building. Amazing theory.

It's poison, and you guys cheer it on like it's accomplishing anything. It's just sad.

Horn

12th February 2013, 06:23 PM

I wish you guys would see how incredibly stupid, and self destructive the missile angle is to the truth movement.

Exactly how can the truth be detrimental to the truth movement?

I see no evidence of it tilting the scales one way or the other.

The fact that anything low flying and lumbering Boeing, turning its course there and abouts is about as stupid as it gets. Let alone penetrating air defense & multiple layers of reinforced concrete.

The complete creation of a Boeing hitting the Pentagon is a test to see how stupid the general populace really is, and what it will accept as The truth, that's all.

Santa

12th February 2013, 06:23 PM

What's sad is how you cheer lead the Official Story as if it's truth. After all these years. Supposedly studying this 9/11 debacle. No one can be that deluded.

Horn

12th February 2013, 06:29 PM

No one can be that deluded.

You are sorely mistaken, we are an elite few in this regard.

joboo

12th February 2013, 06:35 PM

What's sad is how you cheer lead the Official Story as if it's truth. After all these years. Supposedly studying this 9/11 debacle. No one can be that deluded.

So they killed the passengers in advance...somewhere/somehow after they boarded the plane, then planted the human remains without anyone noticing that as well? Then they DNA matched the remains, and planted all that fake debris hoping nobody involved would figure it out at any point in the process when all they had to do was use the airplane, and hit the building? Ok...

Can you see how insanely elaborate, and far fetched the logic is becoming the more you try to rationalize it was a missile?

At a point it all becomes so insanely elaborate to pull off, v.s the most simple reality...it's just beyond belief.

Madness..

Santa

12th February 2013, 06:40 PM

You are sorely mistaken, we are an elite few in this regard.

It's been my experience that the people who have clung to the LIE have absolutely no inclination to research any so-called conspiracy channels on the Net.

Joboo has been living on GSUS for at least 2 years. I reiterate. No one can be that deluded. :)

joboo

12th February 2013, 06:55 PM

It's been my experience that the people who have clung to the LIE have absolutely no inclination to research any so-called conspiracy channels on the Net.

Joboo has been living on GSUS for at least 2 years. I reiterate. No one can be that deluded. :)

Maybe pan through some of the logic I posed instead of hitting up the attack the messenger Jewball anti-semite tactic.

Why don't you try to explain the impossible magic missile theory, and how credible it should be despite what all the evidence is showing?

You actually think anyone in their right mind would even try to pull of such an insanely elaborate scheme when all they had to do was remote control the thing into the building? abc123...apple pie....v.s. literally recreating the universe there, and controlling everyone involved?

You honestly believe anyone on this earth would do that?

They would work that hard, and go to such insane lengths v.s. simply pressing a button, and putting their feet up?

You really believe that?

Horn

12th February 2013, 07:06 PM

Maybe pan through some of the logic I posed

Posed is an excellent phrase to use.

From one guy calling a bunch of people morons, to rusty parts dumped in the middle of the night.

Along with a threats of being lumped into another "crazy moonbat" garbage pile, all these complete the boat that rocks the race to bottom of the logically posed space junk pile.

Santa

12th February 2013, 07:07 PM

So they killed the passengers in advance...somewhere/somehow after they boarded the plane, then planted the human remains without anyone noticing that as well? Then they DNA matched the remains, and planted all that fake debris hoping nobody involved would figure it out at any point in the process when all they had to do was use the airplane, and hit the building? Ok...

Can you see how insanely elaborate, and far fetched the logic is becoming the more you try to rationalize it was a missile?

At a point it all becomes so insanely elaborate to pull off, v.s the most simple reality...it's just beyond belief.

Madness..

Every bit of the evidence you're using to elaborate such a silly ass carnival fun house of speculations comes straight from NSA, CIA, FBI, DHS, FDA, RAND, Tavistock and a whole slew of Think Tanks, NGO's, YAWN! You know, IZ$GOV.... ZIO$... B$S...

Oh wait! that can't be... joboo claims the deception is too complicated to pull off, so the rulers must be telling the truth.

You're defending the State/Media presentation. THE OFFICIAL STORY.

You have NO personal knowledge of what happened, yet you defend what you were told by those above. Those who lie there asses off for a living.

You choose to believe the Deceivers.

joboo

12th February 2013, 07:11 PM

Every bit of the evidence you're using to elaborate such a silly ass carnival fun house of speculations comes straight from NSA, CIA, FBI, DHS, FDA, RAND, Tavistock and a whole slew of Think Tanks, NGO's, YAWN! You know, IZ$GOV.... ZIO$... B$S...

Oh wait! that can't be... joboo claims the deception is too complicated to pull off, so the rulers must be telling the truth.

You're defending the State/Media presentation. THE OFFICIAL STORY.

You have NO personal knowledge of what happened, yet you defend what you were told by those above. Those who lie there asses off for a living.

You choose to believe the Deceivers.

You really think they would do all that, and hope nobody finds out, over just pressing a button?

Think about it.

Horn

12th February 2013, 07:16 PM

You choose to believe the Deceivers.

Its far worse than that, he believes without any choice that a Boeing 757 can achieve what was done there.

Horn

12th February 2013, 07:23 PM

You really think they would do all that, and hope nobody finds out, over just pressing a button?

Think about it.

There's already many that know, do you think that bothers them?

HSBC was only fingered because somebody chooses them to be fingered,

gun runners to mexico were only exposed because someone chose for them to be "exposed"

osoab

12th February 2013, 07:23 PM

Maybe pan through some of the logic I posed...

http://i.imgur.com/UmpOi.gif

joboo

12th February 2013, 07:25 PM

Santa

12th February 2013, 07:28 PM

You really think they would do all that, and hope nobody finds out, over just pressing a button?

Think about it.

Lotsa people have found out. Being found out makes no difference. They just say what scripted and do what's on the story board.

They act and we are acted upon.

What they do is create an Official Story that is repeated over and over till it gets fixed in the populations mind as reality.

joboo

12th February 2013, 07:29 PM

Nice photo but it doesn't doesn't add anything intelligent.

Explain why such a complicated reality was necessary over pressing a button?

You guys insist on skipping over the most simplistic reality at every turn in order to uphold the most ridiculously complicated conspiracy fantasy.

Occams razor is bleeding out buckets here.

Horn

12th February 2013, 07:31 PM

I think I'd just press that button, and be done with it.

That's all that was done, along with a Stand Down Order.

Your logic supports impossible flight paths.

Santa

12th February 2013, 07:33 PM

All these people involved have to be in on it as well. Let's get more people in on it to make up lies. It's easier that way.

http://ww2.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary_archives/stories/112901/12279-1.shtml

I think I'd just press that button, and be done with it.

Look how complex the World Online Banking System is. Look at how complex the system that makes it secure to use by almost everyone on earth.

joboo

12th February 2013, 07:33 PM

Lotsa people have found out. Being found out makes no difference. They just say what scripted and do what's on the story board.

They act and we are acted upon.

What they do is create an Official Story that is repeated over and over till it gets fixed in the populations mind as reality.

They couldn't have just pressed a button with literally zero risk of being found out?

They had to reinvent the wheel there with this elaborate movie set scenario, and come up with all kinds of lying witnesses all over the place?

Who are these "lotsa people" who saw a missile?

Horn

12th February 2013, 07:36 PM

Explain why such a complicated reality was necessary over pressing a button?

What reality?

That DNA was recovered, yet not a single limb was visible in all photos?

Yet they were hauling off one huge coffin under a tarp.

joboo

12th February 2013, 07:41 PM

Look how complex the World Online Banking System is. Look at how complex the system that makes it secure to use by almost everyone on earth.

Apples and oranges.

When did they remove the people from the plane, and plant the mangled up chunks of bodies all over the place?

Some crew with meat cleavers, and human catapults splattering people at a brick wall, then they scooped everything all up, drove it on over, and put it all in the building, mixed it all up convincingly with plane debris, then hit it with a missile?

It's gets more insane the longer you hold out on the magic missile theory.

Have you tried to rationalize the timeline, and all the people that would need to be lying in order to pull it all off?

You have to realize they could have just pressed a button here in terms of simplicity.

There's a very good reason people call this missile thing crazy.

Horn

12th February 2013, 07:42 PM

They had to reinvent the wheel there with this elaborate movie set scenario, and come up with all kinds of lying witnesses all over the place?

Yes, and once that was purchased they knew they could tell everyone Saddam had WMD.

without further adieu.

joboo

12th February 2013, 07:46 PM

What reality?

That DNA was recovered, yet not a single limb was visible in all photos?

Yet they were hauling off one huge coffin under a tarp.

Knocking the light poles down during rush hour would be a bigger risk, and PITA over pressing the big red easy button.

joboo

12th February 2013, 07:48 PM

Yes, and once that was purchased they knew they could tell everyone Saddam had WMD.

without further adieu.

What you said doesn't even make any sense. They have all the rest of 9II to use. I'm discussing the reasoning for a missile specifically.

Horn

12th February 2013, 09:54 PM

Knocking the light poles down during rush hour would be a bigger risk, and PITA over pressing the big red easy button.

I've a sneaking suspicion your are the taxi driver that suffered some sort of brain lapse on the bridge with a light pole protruding thru your windshield into your back seat, while quiet strangers helped you remove said phallic devise from your frontal lobe with greased precision.

Good thing the records of your huge cab fare were misplaced along with the $2.3T, again with such greased precision.

joboo

12th February 2013, 11:22 PM

I've a sneaking suspicion your are the taxi driver that suffered some sort of brain lapse on the bridge with a light pole protruding thru your windshield into your back seat, while quiet strangers helped you remove said phallic devise from your frontal lobe with greased precision.

Good thing the records of your huge cab fare were misplaced along with the $2.3T, again with such greased precision.

Oh look, it's attack the messenger again, high caliber stuff.

Let's see....the endless rabbit hole fantasy world conspiracy land explanation v.s. the big read easy button.

Keep pouring that poison in the well. Sorry bro, the sheeples actually got it right this time by default.

Reason being, the owners are inherently lazy by design. They don't like a lot of complicated hard work, and endless chances of being found out.

Win some, lose some.

You want the truth?

This button.....they pressed it:

https://lh3.ggpht.com/-krfdVeM4c0w/T8T_bQNMrII/AAAAAAAAAFw/nsRhPcJojcY/s1600/Easy-Button.jpg

Horn

13th February 2013, 12:51 AM

That's a big button, but it still ain't big enough to hide 2.3T, and start WWIII

joboo

13th February 2013, 02:49 AM

That's a big button, but it still ain't big enough to hide 2.3T, and start WWIII

Well they had two rather tall towers to accomplish that.

But nice apples to oranges unrelated topic change in an attempt to prove it wasn't a missile through bait, and switch obfuscation. ;)

Horn

13th February 2013, 07:50 AM

Well they had two rather tall towers to accomplish that.

But nice apples to oranges unrelated topic change in an attempt to prove it wasn't a missile through bait, and switch obfuscation. ;)

Well atleast you're looking at the larger picture, albeit thru the wrong orifice.

Tell me joboo, Why did the second tower struck fall firstly.

Was it due mostly in part to structural failure from the intense fire?

joboo

13th February 2013, 09:00 AM

Well atleast you're looking at the larger picture, albeit thru the wrong orifice.

Tell me joboo, Why did the second tower struck fall firstly.

Was it due mostly in part to structural failure from the intense fire?

So I guess the missile madness has finally been put to rest.

My only contention is the missile. It's the poison in the well.

mamboni

13th February 2013, 09:14 AM

That's a big button, but it still ain't big enough to hide 2.3T, and start WWIII

Here's the button for Jooboo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3OzEnnuPIY

joboo

13th February 2013, 09:30 AM

Opinions are a dime a dozen.

The realities stand for themselves.

All those forensic scientists never noticed anything suspicious while analyzing everything on all those planted "faked" chopped up, passengers.

The coverup keeps growing by leaps, and bounds.

They're all lying, and in on it:
http://ww2.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary_archives/stories/112901/12279-1.shtml

But they could have just pressed the auto guidance big easy button, and it's a done deal.

Loose change messed up a lot of people.

Horn

13th February 2013, 10:10 AM

My only contention is the missile. It's the poison in the well.

Stand down is the poison in the well.

mamboni

13th February 2013, 11:11 AM

Opinions are a dime a dozen.

Actually, opinions are like assholes: everybody has one. Now GSUS has one too.

7th trump

13th February 2013, 11:18 AM

Actually, opinions are like assholes: everybody has one. Now GSUS has one too.Hahahahahaha..............
Best post in this thread........thanks mamboni........awesome post!

Horn

13th February 2013, 11:56 AM

They're all lying, and in on it:
http://ww2.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary_archives/stories/112901/12279-1.shtml

Where do you get off saying that these people are lying?

They're doing there jobs like any other soldier slave in the pecking order would do.

What an asshole!

joboo

13th February 2013, 01:43 PM

Actually, opinions are like assholes: everybody has one. Now GSUS has one too.

I noticed a lot of a-hole content in your responses lately.

Is it something in your diet?

Donkey erections?

I'm just going by what you yourself are going out of your way to say.

joboo

13th February 2013, 01:49 PM

Where do you get off saying that these people are lying?

They're doing there jobs like any other soldier slave in the pecking order would do.

What an asshole!

I'm not sure if you noticed. I'm actually asking you/others if they are lying.

Now, if you get to call me asshole, then I get to call you an overly dramatic pentagon missiletard. It's only fair. ;)

If they are lying, then the passengers got (manually) chopped up, ground up, scooped up, then driven over to the pentagon, and mixed in with all the debris.

But that sounds likely right?

-----------------------

I see cranky people who are angry their beloved missile angle for all these years is slowly fading away.

mamboni

13th February 2013, 02:12 PM

I'm not sure if you noticed. I'm actually asking you/others if they are lying.

Now, if you get to call me asshole, then I get to call you an overly dramatic pentagon missiletard. It's only fair. ;)

If they are lying, then the passengers got (manually) chopped up, ground up, scooped up, then driven over to the pentagon, and mixed in with all the debris.

But that sounds likely right?

-----------------------

I see cranky people who are angry their beloved missile angle for all these years is slowly fading away.

Who called you an asshole, asshole?;D

Celtic Rogue

13th February 2013, 02:24 PM

WOW this used to be a place where various views are discussed in an effort to find the truth. Now all I see are people calling others they disagree with names and ignoring the discussion of facts? THIS SUCKS! Every F'ng thread almost ends up in name calling not fact discussion! So since I point this out I guess I must be a so called shill. These attacks seem very hebrewistic in nature... where they yell murder as they attack you? Just sayin. I dont know who is or isnt a so called shill... but it seems that the anti social behavior here isnt being started by the so called shill!

Serpo

13th February 2013, 02:53 PM

Serpo

13th February 2013, 02:56 PM

So I guess the missile madness has finally been put to rest.

My only contention is the missile. It's the poison in the well.

But its only been over 300 posts surly it cant be that simple.....;D

So why did the buildings fall.........you havnt answered that

joboo

13th February 2013, 04:21 PM

Who called you an asshole, asshole?;D

LOL. If you gonna go all alpha male on me in all my threads at least have a thick skin about it.

Nothing more hilarious than an alpha male mindset with thin skinned undertones.

I call it Gino syndrome. Jersey shore. ;)

Santa

13th February 2013, 04:25 PM

If you gonna go all alpha male on me in all my threads

Your threads?

joboo

13th February 2013, 04:25 PM

But its only been over 300 posts surly it cant be that simple.....;D

So why did the buildings fall.........you havnt answered that

It actually can be that simple, and it was.

I'm not concerned with the other events. The rest of it is all open/closed imo.

I'm debunking one particular misguided aspect with evidence, and stating the reasons why.

joboo

13th February 2013, 04:27 PM

Your threads?

This one isn't mine, but feel free to look for examples in mine of what I'm talking about.

Serpo

13th February 2013, 04:32 PM

Your threads?

It is now..........................

joboo

13th February 2013, 04:51 PM

It is now..........................

I was gonna say... it kinda is by default at this point.

Whenever I hear the well poisoning missile angle it's like a forest fire that needs some water. The premise of the OP video was the lady said up front the guy had proven it was a missile.

As great as he is for all his service, and he's entitled to think what he wants without persecution, he's really just a retired senior citizen that hasn't looked into it as much as some people have. It's a little cloudy upstairs for him at that age.

The guy is retired, he probably hits up the net in his spare time, and he got the ol Loose Change, Alex Jones truther combo, and/or the near infinite regurgitation's of that conclusion process found in abundance on the net. It's a deadly 1/2 combination.

Horn

13th February 2013, 05:02 PM

Joboo flies an Easy one wing airplane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E

joboo

13th February 2013, 05:21 PM

Again with the personal reference. Are you guys shitting me, or simply shills? The same call out routine, then someone else comes in for a cheap character swipe with nothing constructive as a follow up. Real high caliber situation.

The hole...the real hole...not the loose change version hole, was ample size to fit the plane. It matched, and if the wings were getting banged up smacking down light poles on the way in, can this definitely disprove the plane over a missile? I'm still not seeing it.

$100 says this guy is looking at the same pictures everyone else has access to on the net.

Horn

13th February 2013, 05:32 PM

It matched, and if the wings were getting banged up smacking down light poles on the way in, can this definitely disprove the plane over a missile? I'm still not seeing it.

Question is, are your poles clean enough that you should be using them in the first place?

http://goodideajohng.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/blind-monkey.jpg

Now he's suggesting that a couple breakaway light poles slowed down & further dampened an already impossible flight path of a 757.

joboo

13th February 2013, 05:39 PM

Question is, are your poles clean enough that you should be using them in the first place?

Now he's suggesting that a couple breakaway light poles slowed down & further dampened an already impossible flight path of a 757.

"Clean enough"? What does that even mean?

Dampened or damaged? Is that a typo?

Go crash a car into an aluminum light pole to see what kind of forces are involved.

Horn

13th February 2013, 05:42 PM

Go crash a car into an aluminum light pole to see what kind of forces are involved.

Now we're starting to get somewhere.

Imagine traveling at over 500mph and hitting one.

Think they'd risk destroying tracks of 2.3T on a bank shot?

joboo

13th February 2013, 06:01 PM

Now we're starting to get somewhere.

Imagine traveling at over 500mph and hitting one.

Think they'd risk destroying tracks of 2.3T on a bank shot?

It would knock them over, and mess up the wings.

Do you think they could hit the p-gon with an airplane? I think it would be incredibly easy.

With that much momentum, there is no such concept of a "bank shot" off a light pole.

It's like a dart...(wings or no wings) at that distance...short of a giant hand reaching out of the sky, it's hitting the mark straight on without deviation.

Some people say "aha!...the wings didn't fit perfectly!" Safe to say they weren't looking too profile perfect either after hitting 5 lamp posts.

gunDriller

13th February 2013, 06:53 PM

i listened to the Major General's testimony.

blows the official US gov. conspiracy theory to pieces.

good video !

Horn

13th February 2013, 06:58 PM

Do you think they could hit the p-gon with an Boeing 757 @ 500+MPH?

Nope, not the wall, not at all.

Maybe the roof if computer guided at a high angle descent, but would have to be plotted perfectly, and corrected in an instant upon approach.

Right angle perpendicular to the wall is an impossibility.

joboo

13th February 2013, 09:56 PM

Nope, not the wall, not at all.

Maybe the roof if computer guided at a high angle descent, but would have to be plotted perfectly, and corrected in an instant upon approach.

Right angle perpendicular to the wall is an impossibility.

What you see visually, and where the force/momentum vector is pointing over such a short distance is not necessarily conclusive. If the camera was panned out more it would give a much better indication. I don't see it as a smoking gun.

I don't consider this as smoking gun proof/evidence either, but it does make a point. @26 seconds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nBaU0vwP-o

Horn

14th February 2013, 06:52 AM

joboo

14th February 2013, 11:46 AM

That jet might be going 220mph if that, if it impacted anything at the time there would would be large chunks all about the place. You need 500knots to enable the kind of disintegration you are hoping for.

Give it up joboo, no Boeing can do what your asking, its impossible. It is fully conclusive evidence.

You think because your conception of speed = X, then Y is impossible.

I don't think you have the capabilities to definitively say that.

What I do know is they weren't chopping up 180+ people into convincing little bits to withstand meticulous levels of forensic analysis, and hoping nobody would notice anything unusual.

All the passengers magically got into the building from a plane that was headed right there, and suddenly stopped there. Then there's witnesses to this effect who saw the plane coming in, impacting, and nothing flying away.

Big easy button all the way on this. There is nothing that shows a missile did this except for some deceptive loose change pictures compounded with lies.

Horn

14th February 2013, 12:18 PM

You think because your conception of speed = X, then Y is impossible.

I don't think you have the capabilities to definitively say that.

What I do know is they weren't chopping up 180+ people into convincing little bits to withstand meticulous levels of forensic analysis, and hoping nobody would notice anything unusual.

All the passengers magically got into the building from a plane that was headed right there, and suddenly stopped there. Then there's witnesses to this effect who saw the plane coming in, impacting, and nothing flying away.

Big easy button all the way on this. There is nothing that shows a missile did this except for some deceptive loose change pictures compounded with lies.

The forensic analysis was to determine/match DNA, not manner of death. Those receiving samples had no idea where they were getting it from, this is stupid to even argue as any basis for the "theoretical".

You are truly beyond any hope of recovery in your physics aptitude if you can't determine that the jetliner shown in your video was traveling nowhere close to the speeds required to disintegrate, which is after all the core & THE ONLY THING which could be determined over the internet looking at photos. As everything else is circumstantial to it. The amount of deviation from course at those speeds in a Boeing is any impossibility to correct even with supercomputing abilities the jetliner is Not physically capable to correct the path in the time and distance required by the evidence that remains.. and as it would be a constant necessity to correct that course to target (The land would eat the course up) at altitude.

There was no plane left there, no wing sections, no bodies, no luggage. not even a stray shoe available outside the building.

Which is where the said "plane" crashed.

THE EASY COURSE WAS THE ROOF!

Again your theorem fails to deliver.

joboo

14th February 2013, 12:25 PM

http://ww2.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary.../12279-1.shtml (http://ww2.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary_archives/stories/112901/12279-1.shtml)

^ They knew what they were working on. You can't fake a high impact effect on bone fragments like that with a meat grinder or an axe.

Santa

14th February 2013, 01:33 PM

mamboni

14th February 2013, 01:43 PM

Keep it up jooboo. What with all your evidence and logic, I'm 99% convinced it was a missile.

Why would they go to all that trouble hijacking a 757, doing a huge u-turn that took over an hour lumbering around in US airspace, and smash it into the most strongly defended and secured building on earth when all they had to do was push a button to launch a missile?

Joboo is busy trashing another thread and asked me to respond for him:

"But but but, how do you know it was a button? It could have been a toggle switch or a pull chain. If you're not sure of this, then how can you be sure it was a missile? Can't your small brain see the inescapable logic of my argument? I've dumbed this down for you as far as I can. Because, I'm really a nice guy and you should believe me."

gunDriller

14th February 2013, 01:50 PM

Keep it up jooboo. What with all your evidence and logic, I'm 99% convinced it was a missile.

Why would they go to all that trouble hijacking a 757, doing a huge u-turn that took over an hour lumbering around in US airspace, and smash it into the most strongly defended and secured building on earth when all they had to do was push a button to launch a missile?

i'm still digesting what the General said, but i tend to believe his statement about the Pentagon.

so if no airplane hit the Pentagon - what happened to the people on the flight ?

if it was a made-up flight, how do they shut up the airline employees ?

joboo

14th February 2013, 01:56 PM

The largest documented forensic analysis project in history, yet nobody knew what they were working on, and thy couldn't tell from the bone fragments the whole thing was faked in some offsite location with hatchets, cleavers, meat grinders etc.

They got all those people off the plane, processed all those the bodies, scooped it all up, drove it all over, and started scattering it all over the place amongst fake debris.

Sounds like a bullet proof plan with no hopes of being found out.

How far fetched does it need to get to uphold the magic missile?

Pretty far it seems.

Serpo

14th February 2013, 02:11 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSqTEkpVzhghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSqTEkpVzhg

Serpo

14th February 2013, 02:15 PM

Video of Cruise missile hitting Pentagon on 9/11 leaked
Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:22PM
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Suppressed video (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/29/911-video-of-missile-hitting-pentagon-leaked/) released 10 years after 9/11 attacks in the United States clearly shows the Pentagon attack was a Cruise type missile, either a Tomahawk or Russian/Soviet Granit as described by former officer of the Soviet nuclear intelligence Dimitri Khalezov.

The little explosions which have been circled in the video clearly point out that "there is no huge jet" hammering into the Pentagon, Khalezov explains.

According to the official U.S. government narration, an American Airline Boeing 757 struck the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.

The Boeing 757 is a mid-size, narrow-body twin-engine jet airliner manufactured by Boeing Commercial Airplanes. Its dimension specification include: Wing span 38.05m (124ft 10in), length 47.32m (155ft 3in), height 13.56m (44ft 6in). Wing area 185.3m2 (1994sq ft).

The author of "The third truth about September 11" says every time he uploads such videos on the internet “my YouTube gets deleted or the hits go down.”

He describes a hole that appeared in a Pentagon wall right after the attack. "Look at that little hole. No way a jet [can] fit in there. Where's the wings? Where's the engines?”

The researcher says when the footage is observed frame by frame it shows that "the explosion happens before the 'jet' even appears.”

After 11 September 2001, Khalezov undertook extensive research on the collapse of the three World Trade Center Towers. The research is claimed to demonstrate that the three towers were demolished by three underground thermo-nuclear explosions.

Moreover, Khalezov claims that he knew about the in-built so-called "emergency nuclear demolitions scheme" for the Twin Towers as long ago as the 1980's, while a serviceman in the Soviet Special Control Service.

http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/196559.html

mamboni

14th February 2013, 02:33 PM

Amazing video Serpo! That is definitely a non-winged missile hitting the Pentagon, a cruise missile. Government lied to us on 911 - surprise!

Serpo

14th February 2013, 02:37 PM

Government lied to us

Its what they are good at..........

Hatha Sunahara

14th February 2013, 02:51 PM

Khalezov says it was a Russian Granit missile stolen from the Kursk submarine that sank in the arctic, and that missile was fitted with a thermonuclear warhead that was disarmed. He says it was fired from a ship off the Atlantic coast. There was a Boeing 747 that approached the Pentagon from the same angle as the missile at the same time, and flew over the Pentagon as the missile hit. This diverted everyone's attention from the plane to the explosion from the missile, the plane flew away, and set the stage for the claim that it was the plane that hit the Pentagon.

You can download Khalezov's book The Third Truth here:

http://www.911-truth.net/Dimitri_Khalezov_Book_Third_Truth_911_free_11chapt ers_v2.zip

This will get Joboo fired up, because Khalezov says all three WTC buildings that came down were demolished by 150KT nukes placed 50 meters below their lowest levels, and were part of a demolition plan that was required when they were built. I haven't read a more believable explanation of 911 than the one in the book at the link above.

Hatha

Santa

14th February 2013, 03:05 PM

joboo

14th February 2013, 03:09 PM

The larger the operation, the easier it is to compartmentalize. Information is on a need to know basis.
Your logic is as rusty and chopped up with meat grinders as the evidence you've thus far supplied.

The more complicated the operation is the greater the opportunities become for being found out...not the opposite.

Especially if all they had to do was press an autopilot button, and be done with it.

Everyone can express an opinion, it doesn't prove anything. Maybe post up your smoking gun evidence with links proving it was missile.

EE_

14th February 2013, 03:11 PM

I've always thought the easiest way to set charges in the twin towers, would be in the elevator shafts.
The charges could have been placed in one night, being rolled into the elevators and passed up through the access panels while on manual operation.
I know there were probably several elevators in the buildings and they all could have been placed at the same time.
Most elevators are built in the center of the structual supports of a building and there is plenty of space between the elevator and shaft walls to put whatever you would need. I know, I've built many.

gunDriller

14th February 2013, 03:13 PM

Its what they are good at..........

you don't make it into management, on either the government side or the commercial side, unless you have PROVEN that you are a "team player" - i.e. that you are able to grasp the "team lie" -which is often un-written - and to 'go along' with it 24/7.

Serpo

14th February 2013, 03:13 PM

joboo

14th February 2013, 03:13 PM

Serpo

14th February 2013, 03:14 PM

you don't make it into management, on either the government side or the commercial side, unless you have PROVEN that you are a "team player" - i.e. that you are able to grasp the "team lie" -which is often un-written - and to 'go along' with it 24/7.

living a lie 24/7........................must give a new meaning too your life.......

Serpo

14th February 2013, 03:15 PM

Radiation...was it detected? Kinda hard to get rid of it, as it tends to leave a fingerprint.

Where have you been for the last 10 yrs.....in a cave?

joboo

14th February 2013, 03:15 PM

joboo

14th February 2013, 03:17 PM

Where have you been for the last 10 yrs.....in a cave?

What does it have to do with me? Make your point as to why. It's all that's required here.

Serpo

14th February 2013, 03:18 PM

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Serpo

14th February 2013, 03:19 PM

What does it have to do with me? Make your point as to why. It's all that's required here.

It just shows total ignorance of 9/11 issues..................

joboo

14th February 2013, 03:22 PM

Instead of mocking people, and wasting site storage with a huge copy/paste. Just say "they did find radiation".

Four words. Save everyone's time v.s. getting all emotional about it.

joboo

14th February 2013, 03:24 PM

It just shows total ignorance of 9/11 issues..................

Total ignorance? hmm..really?

Maybe drop the drama level down a bit?

JDRock

14th February 2013, 03:28 PM

joboo

14th February 2013, 03:32 PM

halo...do you REALLY need to get bitch slapped over this AGAIN?? You were bent over the table so many time by pat colo over this at gim its laughable....halophyte...juristic preson... what a fraud...what a glutton for another public beating hahahaaa

You have no idea what you're talking about. You think you do, but you're guessing at best. Reason being I do know.

And yet AGAIN...the pathetic character swipes come out. Cheap shots are for losers. Keep it on topic. Thanks.

Santa

14th February 2013, 03:33 PM

The more complicated the operation is the greater the opportunities become for being found out...not the opposite.

Especially if all they had to do was press an autopilot button, and be done with it.

Everyone can express an opinion, it doesn't prove anything. Maybe post up your smoking gun evidence with links proving it was missile.

We don't even know with any certainty whether the President was born in the US or Kenya, so how the hell can we possibly ever know what the Pentagram was hit with? All factual info is released by the same fucktards that blew the building up in the first place.

Serpo

14th February 2013, 03:38 PM

Instead of mocking people, and wasting site storage with a huge copy/paste. Just say "they did find radiation".

Four words. Save everyone's time v.s. getting all emotional about it.

Dont tell me how to post

Serpo

14th February 2013, 03:42 PM

joboo

14th February 2013, 03:44 PM

We don't even know with any certainty whether the President was born in the US or Kenya, so how the hell can we possibly ever know what the Pentagram was hit with? All factual info is released by the same fucktards that blew the building up in the first place.

That's for sure, who knows what's is real or fake, but the reasoning still stands that the more people, and processes that are drawn into it, the greater the risk becomes. Put yourself in their position.

I would take the easy route, v.s getting an elaborate plan like this together, and hoping everything works out at every stage without a hitch. The level of planning, and fabrication required between the two scenarios is unfathomably monumental by comparison. So many steps involved in such a tight timeline to pull it all off.

joboo

14th February 2013, 03:46 PM

After nearly 400 posts on this thread you tell me this....hahahahahhhhhahaaaahahahahhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaa aa

If you could point out where I copy, and pasted huge amounts of text rather than simply typing words to convey the message?

Serpo

14th February 2013, 03:51 PM

Radiation & Another One
Of Those Endless
911 'Coincidences'...
By Christopher Bollyn
5-8-7 "AMEC Construction Management, a subsidiary of the British engineering firm AMEC, renovated Wedge One of the Pentagon before 9-11 and cleaned it up afterward. AMEC had also renovated Silverstein's WTC 7, which collapsed mysteriously on 9-11, and then headed the cleanup of the WTC site afterward. The AMEC construction firm is currently in the process of closing all its offices in the United States." Radiation Shows 9-11 Pentagon
Hit Not By 757: Something With DU? By Christopher Bollyn More damning fuel for the funeral pyre of the 9-11 'official story' that is completely dead by now. "Around the Pentagon there were reports of high radiation levels after 9-11. American Free Press has documentation that radiation levels in Alexandria and Leesburg, Va., were much higher than usual on 9-11 and persisted for at least one week afterward. In Alexandria, seven miles south of the burning Pentagon, a doctor with years of experience working with radiation issues found elevated radiation levels on 9-11 of 35 to 52 counts per minute (cpm) using a "Radalert 50" Geiger counter. One week after 9-11, in Leesburg, 33 miles northwest of the Pentagon, soil readings taken in a residential neighborhood showed even higher readings of 75 to 83 cpm. "That's pretty high," Cindy Folkers of the Washing ton-based Nuclear Information and Resource Service (NIRS) told AFP. Folkers said 7 to 12 cpm is normal background radiation inside the NIRS building, and that outdoor readings of between 12 to 20 cpm are normal in Chevy Chase, Md., outside Washington. The Radalert 50, Folkers said, is primarily a gamma ray detector and "detects only 7 percent of the beta radiation and even less of the [very short lived] alpha." This suggests that actual radiation levels may have been significantly higher than those detected by the doctor's Geiger counter. "The question is, why?" Folkers said. If the radiation came from the explosion and fire at the Pentagon, it most likely did not come from a Boeing 757, which is the type of aircraft that allegedly hit the building. --- "Boeing has never used DU on either the 757 or the 767, and we no longer use it on the 747," Leslie M. Nichols, product spokesperson for Boeing's 767, told AFP. http://rense.com/general76/300789.jpg At the Pentagon, AMEC cleaned up this lie http://rense.com/general76/300790.jpg and, at WTC7, AMEC cleaned up this lie. Next, in 2004,
AMEC has announced it is totally leaving country Depleted Uranium Released During Canadian Plane Crash Little-Known Use of DU In Commercial Jets Exposed [and another little known piece of the Pentagon hit puzzle] By Christopher Bollyn The recent crash of a Boeing 747 in Halifax, Canada, raises a number of questions about the use of depleted uranium (DU) in airplanes, public health concerns and the 9-11 attacks. When a Boeing 747 crashed and burned on takeoff at Halifax International Airport in Nova Scotia, Canada, on Oct. 14, an official accident investigator said the aircraft probably contained radioactive depleted uranium. Bill Fowler, an investigator with the Transportation Safety Board of Canada, said the plane was likely equipped with DU as counterweights in its wings and rudder. "A 747 may contain as much as 1,500 kilograms [3,300 lbs.] of the material," the Canadian Press reported. It took 60 firefighters and 20 trucks about three hours to control the fire. Fowler said: "there is no threat or concern" about DU exposure to those working on the wreckage. "That's baloney," Marion Fulk, a retired staff scientist from Lawrence Livermore National Lab, told American Free Press. Fulk, 83, is currently researching how low-level ionizing radiation causes cancer, birth defects and a host of other health problems. Burning depleted uranium creates a "whole mess of oxides," Fulk said, "which is what makes it so wicked biologically." In 1988, American physicist Robert L. Parker wrote that in the worst- case scenario, the crash of a Boeing 747 could affect the health of 250,000 people through exposure to uranium oxide particles. "Extended tests by the Navy and NASA showed that the temperature of the fireball in a plane crash can reach 1,200 degrees Celsius. Such temperatures are high enough to cause very rapid oxidation of depleted uranium," he wrote. "Large pieces of uranium will oxidize rapidly and will sustain slow combustion when heated in air to temperatures of about 500 degrees Celsius," Paul Lowenstein, technical director and vice-president of Nuclear Metals Inc., the company that has supplied DU to Boeing, wrote in a 1993 article. Now, some researchers are turning to the large number of sick firefighters and workers from the World Trade Center site and reports of elevated radiation levels around the Pentagon after 9-11. They contend that the Boeing 757 and 767 aircraft involved in the attacks may have also contained depleted uranium counterweights. PENTAGON RADIATION LEVELS Around the Pentagon there were reports of high radiation levels after 9-11. American Free Press has documentation that radiation levels in Alexandria and Leesburg, Va., were much higher than usual on 9-11 and persisted for at least one week afterward. In Alexandria, seven miles south of the burning Pentagon, a doctor with years of experience working with radiation issues found elevated radiation levels on 9-11 of 35 to 52 counts per minute (cpm) using a "Radalert 50" Geiger counter. One week after 9-11, in Leesburg, 33 miles northwest of the Pentagon, soil readings taken in a residential neighborhood showed even higher readings of 75 to 83 cpm. "That's pretty high," Cindy Folkers of the Washing ton-based Nuclear Information and Resource Service (NIRS) told AFP. Folkers said 7 to 12 cpm is normal background radiation inside the NIRS building, and that outdoor readings of between 12 to 20 cpm are normal in Chevy Chase, Md., outside Washington. The Radalert 50, Folkers said, is primarily a gamma ray detector and "detects only 7 percent of the beta radiation and even less of the alpha." This suggests that actual radiation levels may have been significantly higher than those detected by the doctor's Geiger counter. "The question is, why?" Folkers said. If the radiation came from the explosion and fire at the Pentagon, it most likely did not come from a Boeing 757, which is the type of aircraft that allegedly hit the building. "Boeing has never used DU on either the 757 or the 767, and we no longer use it on the 747," Leslie M. Nichols, product spokesperson for Boeing's 767, told AFP. "Sometime ago, we switched to tungsten, because it is heavier, more readily available and more cost effective." The cost effectiveness argument is debatable. A waste product of U.S. nuclear weapons and energy facilities, DU is reportedly provided by the Department of Energy to national and foreign armament companies free of charge. DU is used in a wide variety of missiles in the U.S. arsenal as an armor penetrator. It is also used in the bunker-buster bombs and cruise missiles. Because no photographic evidence of a Boeing 757 hitting the Pentagon is available to the public, 9-11 skeptics and independent researchers claim something else, such as a missile, struck the Pentagon. A white flash, not unlike those seen in videos of the planes as they struck the twin towers, occurs when a DU penetrator hits a target. Photographs from the Pentagon reveal that large round holes were punched through six walls in the three outer rings. The outside wall is 24 inches thick with a six-inch limestone exterior, eight inches of brick and 10 inches of steel reinforced concrete; the other walls are 18 inches thick. The object that hit the Pentagon on 9-11 penetrated several feet of reinforced concrete, leaving holes with diameters between 11 and 16 feet. Bill Bellinger, then head of the EPA's Radiation Program for Region III, which includes Virginia, told AFP that he had received information of elevated radiation levels and contacted EPA officials at the Pentagon. "I was concerned about that," Bellinger said. "I didn't disregard it at all." Bellinger told AFP that he thought the radiation was from DU in the aircraft. Bellinger, who was based in Philadelphia, did not personally visit the Pentagon site and said that EPA personnel at the site had not reported high levels of radioactivity. However, the EPA official who Bellinger said had worked at the Pentagon, Craig Conklin, now at FEMA, told AFP that he had not been involved at the site, "directly or indirectly." Workers and FEMA officials at the Pentagon were seen wearing special protective outfits and respirators. FEMA photos show the workers going through decontamination procedures. Bellinger told AFP that the Department of Defense was responsible for on-site safety procedures at the Pentagon. In New York, however, considerably less attention was paid to the health risks the burning rubble posed to workers at the WTC site. A recent screening done by Mount Sinai Hospital found that nearly three- quarters of the 1,138 first responders had experienced respiratory problems while working at Ground Zero, and half had respiratory ailments that persisted for an average of eight months afterward. "We were dumfounded by how many people were sick, and how sick they were, and how sick they still are," said Robin Herbert, co-director of the program. Thomas Cahill, professor of physics and atmospheric sciences, analyzed the plumes from a station one mile north of the burning WTC rubble. "The small particles worried me the most," Cahill told AFP, referring to the sub-micron-size particles, which can pass through the filters of respirators. Cahill said the high levels of silicon, vanadium, nickel and sulfuric acid concerned him. The fine concrete dust, he said, acted "like Drano" in the lungs of the workers, where it irritated and burned the wet membranes. Until Dec. 15, the pile was so hot, a piece of paper would ignite on contact with the rubble, Cahill said. "You had the workers working on top of a huge incinerator in the rush to get Wall Street going again," Cahill said. "It was really dumb. "Only 30 percent of the firefighters working at the site in October were wearing any protection at all," he said. A class action lawsuit on behalf of more than 800 people who suffer health effects was filed against WTC leaseholder Larry Silverstein and the companies that supervised the cleanup: AMEC, Bovis Lend Lease, Turner, and Tully Construction. The suit was filed on Sept. 10, the last day set by a federal three- year statute of limitations for lawsuits related to 9-11. "Under state labor law, employers have a duty to provide a safe place to work," lead attorney David Worby said. "They violated that duty. Everyone knew what was on the ground." As many as 100,000 workers at Ground Zero and hundreds of thousands more people in the area were exposed to airborne toxins, Worby said. "If you expose a person to this amount of lead, cadmium, benzene, asbestos and glass shards, they are going to be sick," he said. "More people could die from this than died on the day of 9-11." AMEC Construction Management, a subsidiary of the British engineering firm AMEC, renovated Wedge One of the Pentagon before 9-11 and cleaned it up afterward. AMEC had also renovated Silverstein's WTC 7, which collapsed mysteriously on 9-11, and then headed the cleanup of the WTC site afterward. The AMEC construction firm is currently in the process of closing all its offices in the United States. http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/depleted_uranium.html
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Serpo

14th February 2013, 03:53 PM

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Santa

14th February 2013, 03:56 PM

That's for sure, who knows what's is real or fake, but the reasoning still stands that the more people, and processes that are drawn into it, the greater the risk becomes. Put yourself in their position.

No, your reasoning does not stand. The larger and more complex the structure, the more opportunity for rats to infest it.
The same rats that pulled this crime spree off are the same rats that OWN the press, the military, and the government.

Hatha Sunahara

14th February 2013, 03:59 PM

You were not allowed to bring a geiger counter to the 911 site in lower manhattan for a number of years while the clean up was in progress.l That's how you hide radiation.

H Bombs (thermonuclear devices) are relatively clean. Compared to the early first generation 1950s and 1960s nuclear devices.

I haven't heard from or about Khalezov since around March 2011. He just dropped out of sight. His friend Viktor Bout was extradited to the US from Thailand. I haven't heard from or about him either. Khalezov says that 911 was planned by Mike Hariri, an Israeli Mossad Officer who is also a big hero in Israel. He says Hariri arranged for explosions to happen in the towers where the planes supposedly struck. Hariri was supposedly in Bangkok the day after 911 where he and Khalezov had breakfast. Very interesting story. You should read the book The Third Truth. I believe him.

Hatha

joboo

14th February 2013, 04:02 PM

No, your reasoning does not stand. The larger and more complex the structure, the more opportunity for rats to infest it.
The same rats that pulled this crime spree off are the same rats that OWN the press, the military, and the government.

It does stand. You're assuming everyone involved can be controlled in what they think, observe, and say over the course of their lives.

Not to mention all of this had to be meticulously orchestrated on a tight timeline without anything going wrong at any point.

The more links you put in the chain the weaker it becomes.

joboo

14th February 2013, 04:05 PM

Serpo

14th February 2013, 04:10 PM

High-Ranking Army
Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon
Radiation Expert Claims High-Radiation Readings
Near Pentagon After 9/11 Indicates
Depleted Uranium Used
By Greg Szymanski
8-19-5

Two high profile radiation experts concur Pentagon strike involved use of a missile. Also Geiger counter readings right after the attack shows high levels of radiation 12 miles away from Pentagon crash site. A radiation expert and high-ranking Army Major, who once headed the military's depleted uranium project, both contend the Pentagon was hit by missile, not a commercial jetliner, adding high radiation readings after the strike indicate depleted uranium also may have been used. "I'm not an explosives or crash site expert, but I am highly knowledgeable in causes and effects related to nuclear radiation contamination. What happened at the Pentagon is highly suspicious, leading me to believe a missile with a depleted uranium warhead may have been used," said radiation expert Leuren Moret in a telephone conversation this week from her Berkeley, CA home.

http://rense.com/general67/radfdf.htm (http://rense.com/general67/radfdf.htm)

An air traffic controller from Washington has testified seeing on radar an object flying at about 800 kilometers per hour, moving initially toward the White House, then turning sharply toward the Pentagon, where it seemed to crash. The air traffic controller has testified that the characteristics of the flight were such that it could only have been a military projectile.
Several hundred witnesses have claimed that they head “a shrill noise like the noise of a fighter-bomber”, but nothing like the noise of a civilian aircraft.
Eye-witnesses have said that they saw “something like a cruise missile with wings” or a small flying object “like a plane carrying eight or twelve persons”.
http://consciouslifenews.com/911-offical-version-attack-pentagon-enormous-lie/1134651/

CNN Reporter: “There is NO Evidence of a Plane Having Crashed Anywhere Near the Pentagon”
USAF Witness: There was “a strange lack of visible debris…moments after impact”
You Can’t Fit a Boeing 757 into Hole that is Only 16 Feet Wide
It’s aerodynamically impossible to fly a Boeing 757 at 20 feet above the ground for half a mile
Multiple witnesses provide evidence of a north side approach to the Pentagon
Multiple witnesses saw a low-flying plane fly past the Pentagon
The five downed light poles were preplanned and staged
In an interview with Parade Magazine shortly after 9/11, Donald Rumsfeld said that a MISSILE was used to damage the Pentagon
Timothy Roemer, Former 9/11 Commission Member, said that the Pentagon was “pried open by a MISSILE”
Expert claims that a high radiation reading near Pentagon indicates that a “depleted uranium warhead may have been used”

Serpo

14th February 2013, 04:17 PM

It does stand. You're assuming everyone involved can be controlled in what they think, observe, and say over the course of their lives.

Not to mention all of this had to be meticulously orchestrated on a tight timeline without anything going wrong at any point.

The more links you put in the chain the weaker it becomes.

Joboo you are living proof of this ,even if you realise it or not

joboo

14th February 2013, 04:17 PM

http://rense.com/general67/radfdf.htm

12 miles away, did they then measure closer than that to put any credibility to his observations as to what the source actually was? It would be the obvious thing to do.

Santa

14th February 2013, 04:20 PM

joboo

14th February 2013, 04:20 PM

Joboo you are living proof of this ,even if you realise it or not

...and again what does it have to do with me?

Are you incapable of discussing the topic without the ongoing drama of pulling the same tired jooball attack the messenger tactics?

Serpo

14th February 2013, 04:22 PM

...and again what does it have to do with me?

Are you incapable of discussing the topic without the ongoing drama of pulling the same tired joo attack the messenger tactics?

dont you mean jew

Serpo

14th February 2013, 04:23 PM

12 miles away, did they then measure closer than that to put any credibility to his observations as to what the source actually was? It would be the obvious thing to do.

more idiotic experts hey joboo

joboo

14th February 2013, 04:27 PM

more idiotic experts hey joboo

Well use your head a little bit. It's like saying they smelled smoke, so they immediately knew where the fire was started.

Their approach was hardly scientific or conclusive. It's interesting, but there's a guy out in BC that routinely measures higher than normal levels of radiation after it rains, and found out it was due to an open pit mining operation over 50 miles away.

Santa

14th February 2013, 04:28 PM

...and again what does it have to do with me?

Are you incapable of discussing the topic without the ongoing drama of pulling the same tired jooball attack the messenger tactics?

Sometimes the messenger just needs to be shot... it sends a clear message to the enemy ranks.

Serpo

14th February 2013, 04:31 PM

Well use your head a little bit. It's like saying they smelled smoke, so they immediately knew where the fire was started.

Their approach was hardly scientific or conclusive. It's interesting, but there's a guy out in BC that routinely measures higher than normal levels of radiation after it rains, and found out it was due to an open pit mining operation over 50 miles away.

About 7,450,000 results

joboo

14th February 2013, 04:32 PM

1. The press is under no obligation to divulge sensitive intelligence information to the public.

2. All Government employees or contract labor involved in National Defense Operations are obligated contractually to not release information potentially harmful to the Government.

Yes these people are so trusting. Involve the whole world, and put some ink on some paper, and no worries...or just press the auto pilot button, and it's a done deal.

joboo

14th February 2013, 04:34 PM

About 7,450,000 results

But they didn't narrow down the source of the radiation now did they?

You should have thought about this yourself before posting the link as to it's credibility potential.

joboo

14th February 2013, 04:40 PM

Sometimes the messenger just needs to be shot... it sends a clear message to the enemy ranks.

Nobody is shooting anyone. All I'm seeing is lukewarm & vague loose change deception based counter arguments, intermixed with low IQ cheap shots.

If that's sending a message, I'm not sure it's the one you're looking for.

Horn

14th February 2013, 04:41 PM

The largest documented forensic analysis project in history, yet nobody knew what they were working on,

Happens all the time.

Serpo

14th February 2013, 04:48 PM

SHOW ME THE PLANE

this VID and the next kinda blows Joboos theories out the window

recording from pentagon in 100s of a second and guess what ....still no plane

if you think a plane of 60 tons when empty can skip past a video at 100s of a second and not be seen then you are dreaming...........................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2VXAw3R0V0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2VXAw3R0V0

Serpo

14th February 2013, 04:49 PM

Serpo

14th February 2013, 04:50 PM

show me the plane

joboo

14th February 2013, 04:54 PM

Anyhow...you guys have fun with your ultra elaborate magic missile, chopped up, and planted 180+ dead passengers, disappearing plane scenario, I'm off the gym. Back in a few.

Horn

14th February 2013, 04:55 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSqTEkpVzhghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSqTEkpVzhg

Excellent vid, its really the only thing built by man that at speed can make the maneuver, and punch thru layers of reinforced concrete at trajectory.

Anything else would be shredded.

Who knows how they offed the other people, many died that day on the three different flights, and towers/pentagon.

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/sept11.html

flight
origin
target
takeoff
takeover
reported
crash

Flight 11 (http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight11.html)
Boston
Manhattan
7:59
8:20
8:38
8:46

Flight 175 (http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight175.html)
Boston
Manhattan
8:14
8:42
8:43
9:03

Flight 77 (http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight77.html)
Dulles
Washington, DC
8:20
8:46
9:25
9:38 ?

Flight 93 (http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight93.html)
Newark
Washington, DC ?
8:42
9:40
--
10:06

Serpo

14th February 2013, 05:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY-gmzxnaVshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY-gmzxnaVs

Serpo

14th February 2013, 05:43 PM

joboo massive fail

Horn

14th February 2013, 06:43 PM

Anyhow...you guys have fun with your ultra elaborate magic missile, chopped up, and planted 180+ dead passengers, disappearing plane scenario, I'm off the gym. Back in a few.

To tell the ladies that he's benching 200+, when its really only 120lbs.

Its just easier than having to explain your weaknesses... lol :)

joboo

14th February 2013, 08:16 PM

joboo massive fail

Big fonts...mmm.

The only thing that's massive fail is insisting on some ridiculously elaborate conspiracy theory all the way down into a endlessly complicated rabbit hole when the simplest explanation would have been to press a button to achieve the same effect.

Very similar logic to the idea that the more people you let in on secret the easier it is to keep it.

Yikes...

joboo

14th February 2013, 08:19 PM

To tell the ladies that he's benching 200+, when its really only 120lbs.

Its just easier than having to explain your weaknesses... lol :)

Back to attack the messenger again...real quality stuff from the magic missile, no rabbit hole is ever deep enough, perspective.

Serpo

14th February 2013, 09:11 PM

7th trump

14th February 2013, 09:25 PM

I repeat show me how a whole airplane can escape this 100/th of a second film completely

I think the only thing joboo accomplished here is the fact hes proven to everyone here hes genuine......"delusional".

Heres the definition to delusional.

A delusion is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary.

Superior video evidence says thats not an airliner hitting the pentagon.

joboo

14th February 2013, 09:50 PM

I repeat show me how a whole airplane can escape this 100/th of a second film completely

Nice music....extra creepy. I think it did for me.

-Magic mystery equipment knocking down light poles across a highway during rush hour, and nobody noticed a thing. Seems like a really viable plan to execute on top of it all. Just activate the magic cloaking device, and ride around swinging away.

-Magic disappearing airplane that flew directly at, and stopped right at the p-gon. Yet people still saw this invisible non existent airplane hit the building. Maybe it activated it's magic cloaking device after it dropped off the shredded passenger payload in midair, and simply flew away!

-Splattered up passengers that somehow all exited the plane that mysteriously disappeared right before impact, yet the passengers ended up in the building ripped to shreds. Seems like a viable plan to execute. Nothing could go wrong there when that's all forensically analyzed. No endless avenues for discovery there. Just MKultra everything in sight just like Men in Black the movie!

-Scatter fake debris all over the place inside and out seconds after the impact without anyone anywhere noticing a thing. People might want to analyze it....no worries...we'll pull out the magic Men in Black memory eraser!

-It can never come back to haunt us ever. In fact, telling more people is a better way to keep a secret despite what reality has proven since the dawn of time. More links in the chain actually make it stronger! We can control everyone, and everything forever despite any future circumstance that might arise not in our favor. Rock solid plan to execute! Magic Men in Black memory eraser to the rescue!

Hey.....wait a sec...we can use the plane itself already en route by just pressing a button? uhm...frank...I think I realized a much better way of doing this.

Had to be a missile for sure though. Borders on lunatic fringe.

Serpo

14th February 2013, 10:26 PM

I think the only thing joboo accomplished here is the fact hes proven to everyone here hes genuine......"delusional".

Heres the definition to delusional.

Superior video evidence says thats not an airliner hitting the pentagon.

...

Serpo

14th February 2013, 10:28 PM

nice music....extra creepy. I think it did for me.

-magic mystery equipment knocking down light poles across a highway during rush hour, and nobody noticed a thing. Seems like a really viable plan to execute on top of it all. Just activate the magic cloaking device, and ride around swinging away.

-magic disappearing airplane that flew directly at, and stopped right at the p-gon. Yet people still saw this invisible non existent airplane hit the building. Maybe it activated it's magic cloaking device after it dropped off the shredded passenger payload in midair, and simply flew away!

-splattered up passengers that somehow all exited the plane that mysteriously disappeared right before impact, yet the passengers ended up in the building ripped to shreds. Seems like a viable plan to execute. Nothing could go wrong there when that's all forensically analyzed. No endless avenues for discovery there. Just mkultra everything in sight just like men in black the movie!

-scatter fake debris all over the place inside and out seconds after the impact without anyone anywhere noticing a thing. People might want to analyze it....no worries...we'll pull out the magic men in black memory eraser!

-it can never come back to haunt us ever. In fact, telling more people is a better way to keep a secret despite what reality has proven since the dawn of time. More links in the chain actually make it stronger! We can control everyone, and everything forever despite any future circumstance that might arise not in our favor. Rock solid plan to execute! Magic men in black memory eraser to the rescue!

Hey.....wait a sec...we can use the plane itself already en route by just pressing a button? Uhm...frank...i think i realized a much better way of doing this.

Had to be a missile for sure though. Borders on lunatic fringe.

show me the plane

or put this on....

http://www.onemillionscars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/straight-jacket-cotton-webbing.gif

and take two a day(handfuls that is)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hjy--7mp_-o/UFCn2Az9TBI/AAAAAAAAAPA/Umvz_DDYVfY/s1600/medication.jpeg (http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=ERkDboUfX1XJPM&tbnid=DhDDwAuq1wwQdM:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Frenalfellow.blogspot.com%2F2012%2 F09%2Fmedication-nonadherence-in-renal.html&ei=B8gdUeKOH4uLkwWQloDQDw&psig=AFQjCNFnVwK9cTZE9owQpKNzQNH9ZzVcuA&ust=1360992647551688)

Cebu_4_2

14th February 2013, 10:31 PM

Joo works night shift.

Serpo

14th February 2013, 10:34 PM

Joo works night shift.

Yes he works out takes his vitamins and then works out on us.......its in the manual....

joboo

15th February 2013, 01:33 AM

show me the plane

or put this on....

I did already, but you can't see it from the depths of your cavernous rabbit hole. The oxygen down there has starved your brain dry. ;)

joboo

15th February 2013, 01:35 AM

Yes he works out takes his vitamins and then works out on us.......its in the manual....

I think some of you guys work out on yourselves. Some kind of bizarre illogical scenario going on.

I'm beginning to realize some of what left GIM was the overly paranoid ultra conspiracy types. It was like a filter to help concentrate it. The only thing missing is a space lizard at this point.

My only conclusion left available is Alex Jones culted some people out with a bit of loose change.

Hatha Sunahara

15th February 2013, 01:45 AM

What about the pentagon? How does one prevent anyone on the highway right there from pulling over, and measuring for radiation signatures?

No need to worry about people measuring for radiation at the Pentagon. There was no nuclear detonation there. The Russian Granit missile that hit the building supposedly, according to Khalezov, had a 450KT warhead that was unarmed. That might have left a few kilograms of fissionable material in the debris inside the building, but the people who did 911 were in control of the inside of the building. If you recall, the Pentagon was cleaned up and repaired in a hurry.

Hatha

Serpo

15th February 2013, 01:48 AM

I did already, but you can't see it from the depths of your cavernous rabbit hole. The oxygen down there has starved your brain dry. ;)

After over 400 posts still no plane........
show me the plane

Serpo

15th February 2013, 01:51 AM

I think some of you guys work out on yourselves. Some kind of bizarre illogical scenario going on.

I'm beginning to realize some of what left GIM was the overly paranoid ultra conspiracy types. It was like a filter to help concentrate it. The only thing missing is a space lizard at this point.

My only conclusion left available is Alex Jones culted some people out with a bit of loose change.

So what are you doing here...

joboo

15th February 2013, 01:55 AM

So what are you doing here...

I came along for drama, and the crazy, but my rabbit hole tolerance only goes so deep. Past a certain point I come back up for sunlight, and oxygen.

Hatha Sunahara

15th February 2013, 01:57 AM

Serpo

15th February 2013, 02:04 AM

I came along for drama, and the crazy, but my rabbit hole tolerance only goes so deep. Past a certain point I come back up for sunlight, and oxygen.

Yea I believe you especially when your scenario falls like a desk of cards.....

Serpo

15th February 2013, 02:07 AM

100th of a second a massive plane is not seen at all.....what do you make of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2VXAw3R0V0

joboo

15th February 2013, 02:29 AM

Yea I believe you especially when your scenario falls like a desk of cards.....

Explain how, nobody has yet.

joboo

15th February 2013, 02:30 AM

100th of a second a massive plane is not seen at all.....what do you make of this

No missile, let alone one large enough to somehow knock down five light poles, was visible either.

joboo

15th February 2013, 02:37 AM

My sense from reading this thread is that we have two opposing forces here. One telling everyone to go back to sleep, and the other telling that one to wake up.

Eventually, everyone will go back to sleep, but only after they are satisfied they know the 'truth'. That may be never, because this event is what set off the War on Terror, and the loss of our liberties. This is serious business, and the people who did 911 cannot allow anyone to conclusively prove what happened. So they pay people to confuse things and urge people to go back to sleep.

Hatha

The only opposing forces here are conspiracy v.s. fringe conspiracy.

I've stated a few times now this is the only aspect of the entire event I have an issue with.

Did you mention earlier you believe the September Clues narrative of the no planes it was all TV fakery angle?

I posted a debunk on that from the #7 "this is an orange" guy. He did a good job with it.

Serpo

15th February 2013, 02:43 AM

No missile, let alone one large enough to somehow knock down five light poles, was visible either.

A missile can get past 100th of a second ......a big plane can not.................how hard is it to understand............http://www.stlmag.com/Blogs/Relish/September-2011/Let-Them-Eat-Brains-River-City-Casino-Dares-the-Fried-Brain-Sandwich/brains.jpg (http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&docid=vavS0xdvOuJD9M&tbnid=D4NPL7TeU2KmEM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stlmag.com%2FBlogs%2FRelish%2 FSeptember-2011%2FLet-Them-Eat-Brains-River-City-Casino-Dares-the-Fried-Brain-Sandwich%2F&ei=4QMeUc62CefnmAWjiYDoDA&bvm=bv.42553238,d.aGc&psig=AFQjCNGweX3HdCymRvfpgsn5lDDeb-XBVA&ust=1361007889999288)

joboo

15th February 2013, 02:59 AM

Well of course...it's the light pole devouring magic missile!

So tiny, yet so tough, and long lasting, like the energizer bunny!
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5045956061757892&pid=15.1&H=144&W=160 (http://sytereitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/energizer-bunny.jpg)
^ Also loves a cavernous rabbit hole

Serpo

15th February 2013, 03:10 AM

ah yes the light pole did it...........conclusive evidence of a plane ........hahahah.......

joboo

15th February 2013, 03:58 AM

ah yes the light pole did it...........conclusive evidence of a plane ........hahahah.......

Yup....five of them just fainted into destruction during rush hour traffic at the mere sight of the scary zig zagging energizer bunny magic missile!

They also dispatched a levitating highway crossing crane equipped with a cloaking device! The light pole mangler 5000 model!

woodman

15th February 2013, 03:58 AM

No missile, let alone one large enough to somehow knock down five light poles, was visible either.

You hae a fixation on these poles. Maybe they were knocked down by the decoy aircraft? In any case the film shows the tip of something that looks like a missile and the next frame shows an explosion 'blooming' out of the face of the bldg. Any thing as big as an aircraft would show up in the time frame of the two seperate frames. The real telling fact here is that at the instant of the explosion which we are seeing bloom out of the face of the building, some portion of an aircraft as massive as the one purported to have hit the building, would at least have the rear of itself visible in the video frame.

I'm sorry that you cannot face the truth. When we have been lied to about everything else, you expect them to have a clean story on the pentagon?

Serpo

15th February 2013, 04:03 AM

Yup....five of them just fainted into destruction during rush hour traffic at the mere sight of the scary zig zagging energizer bunny magic missile!

They also dispatched a levitating highway crossing crane equipped with a cloaking device! The light pole mangler 5000 model!

Face it ,its all you have left.....light poles....hahahahah

joboo

15th February 2013, 04:10 AM

Serpo

15th February 2013, 04:19 AM

SHOW ME THE PLANE

the dog searching for body parts and finding none maybe lying also

engine explained

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1dhq7_9-11-truth-radiation-hazard-pentago_news#.UR12XPJ5d8Ehttp://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1dhq7_9-11-truth-radiation-hazard-pentago_news#.UR12XPJ5d8E

this trained body searching dog in the VID found nothing at the pentacon

what starting to bring lizards and star trek into it now......they wont help

woodman

15th February 2013, 04:22 AM

"Ok wait, it gets better, now there's a decoy plane! "---joobo

There are many eyewitnesses who say they saw a plane fly toward the pentagon that day. This is suddenly news to you? You have been argueing your case for days here and you just now got the idea that we believe the plane that was seen was a decoy? You are thick, son. Thick as a brick.

joboo

15th February 2013, 04:39 AM

Yes let's use a cloaked decoy plane that magically flies low enough to knock over light poles, then somehow pulls out, and suddenly disappears! Hit the building with it?... no way, just the light poles, and it's magic missile to the rescue!

Better yet, let's use dead silent nuclear powered cloaked heavy machinery to haul cloaked engines, and cloaked landing gear, and tonnes of other cloaked debris in and out around all over the place without anyone noticing a thing!

If that fails simply pull out the Men In Black magic marker mind eraser! What a plan! What could go wrong?!?

Photo of ultra light debris, with silent nuclear powered heavy machinery off to the left with cloaking technology disabled:
https://lh3.ggpht.com/_PcI9awojNLQ/Rwt1IdNXFXI/AAAAAAAAAyE/mRqXfTzBr4o/s640/rottami_aereo_Pentagono.jpg

woodman

15th February 2013, 04:51 AM

Ok wait, it gets better, now there's a decoy plane!

Just light poles?

Well no there's people that think they can chop up, and plant, 184 bodies destined to undergo meticulous forensic analysis, and actually try it. Only a sheer genius would come up with a rock solid plan like that! Maybe the body chopper 5000 was cloaked as well! What could go wrong!?! Get more people involved it keeps the secret better!

Heck maybe they had cloaked space lizard agents from the future planting cloaked evidence in real time via a worm hole. That's also explains it.

Maybe they beamed it all down into place just like star trek! The best explanation yet!

This post is really great. After 2 weeks of arguement, joobo finally figures out that witnesses actually did see a plane going toward the pentagon. He has been argueing all along without this critical information. His critical abilities to argue are so atrophied, if they ever existed to begin with, that he did not realize that critical to our understanding of the event, the plane which was obviously seen by many witnesses, must have been a decoy.

Explain your lack of understanding on this critical point joobo.

Santa

15th February 2013, 05:27 AM

joboo

15th February 2013, 05:59 AM

Yeap....fake cloaked debris planted inside the building with silent cloaked heavy shape shifting machinery that somehow fit through doorways all over the place.

Amazing stuff!

Clearly the work of futuristic cloaked space lizards, transporting through worm holes in the time/space fabric...it's as though they were never even there!

Nobody would ever notice a thing! Just pull out the magic marker mind eraser, and voila! What a rock solid viable plan! Flawless execution!

joboo

15th February 2013, 06:07 AM

This post is really great. After 2 weeks of arguement, joobo finally figures out that witnesses actually did see a plane going toward the pentagon. He has been argueing all along without this critical information. His critical abilities to argue are so atrophied, if they ever existed to begin with, that he did not realize that critical to our understanding of the event, the plane which was obviously seen by many witnesses, must have been a decoy.

Explain your lack of understanding on this critical point joobo.

The decoy easy button plane flying right at the pentagon knocking over light poles that suddenly disappeared. Of course! The space lizards got it from the planet Romulus! I saw it on a Star Trek episode once! Use the same plane that witnesses saw which I've been point out all along?...no way! Pull out the zig zagging cloaked magic missile that nobody saw.

Maybe the easy button was cloaked too, and they couldn't see it to press it in time?!?

Horn

15th February 2013, 07:02 AM

Back to attack the messenger again...real quality stuff from the magic missile, no rabbit hole is ever deep enough, perspective.

There were 53 passengers on flight 77 not 180, joboo.

You make it too easy.

mamboni

15th February 2013, 08:08 AM

JDRock

15th February 2013, 08:10 AM

You have no idea what you're talking about. You think you do, but you're guessing at best. Reason being I do know.

And yet AGAIN...the pathetic character swipes come out. Cheap shots are for losers. Keep it on topic. Thanks.
hahaha he just answered to "halo" bwahhaaa he just outed himself as the paid shill from the adl office that we have been dealing with for 10 years or more. flag this post JQP, jewboo = halo, point man for skykike. he knows he cant win the debate on point by virtue of the absurdity of his position, but his plan is to spam spam ..divert-delay -deny-occlude...this is a paid government shill..stealing as much personal information ashe can to give to his handlers.

Cebu_4_2

15th February 2013, 08:19 AM

hahaha he just answered to "halo" bwahhaaa he just outed himself as the paid shill from the adl office that we have been dealing with for 10 years or more. flag this post JQP, jewboo = halo, point man for skykike. he knows he cant win the debate on point by virtue of the absurdity of his position, but his plan is to spam spam ..divert-delay -deny-occlude...this is a paid government shill..stealing as much personal information ashe can to give to his handlers.

Can I be moderator just for a little while?

PatColo

15th February 2013, 09:24 AM

he knows he cant win the debate on point by virtue of the absurdity of his position, but his plan is to spam spam ..divert-delay -deny-occlude...this is a paid government shill..stealing as much personal information ashe can to give to his handlers.

I'd still like to hear Pattern Of Projection Girl's (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo&p=612538&viewfull=1#post612538)answer to:

joobo, as the self-posturing 'sane & rational' 911 researcher you are, what role if any do you speculate "Arab/Muslim Jihadists" played in 911? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2820%29.gif

The limits of Israel's online hasbara (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/the-limits-of-israel-s-online-hasbara.premium-1.479298)

"... Deserting the Internet is not an option, but Israel has to acknowledge its limitations. Pattern Of Projection Girl (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo&p=612538&viewfull=1#post612538) Hasbara can achieve at most a tie. "

more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/the-limits-of-israel-s-online-hasbara.premium-1.479298

joboo

15th February 2013, 10:28 AM

I did a search for "magic missile" over on the david icke forum, and lo and behold they had confirmed pictures from user Lord_Xenu858 of the space lizards deploying their cloaking technology while planting all the evidence via transporters!

They also had pictures of fragments of the zig zagging magic missile which actually used time warp hyper drive technology. It actually created a rift in the time space continuum that caused the missile to appear in five different places at once taking down all the light poles simultaneously!

Amazing stuff! You guys were right! It was shape shifting space lizards after all. Imagine my surprise!

I just purchased a turbo driven 200fps rabbit hole digger for $8,000 on amazon.com to help me get up to speed...express delivery was included for only $50 extra...sweet deal!

Cebu_4_2

15th February 2013, 10:39 AM

I just purchased a turbo driven 200fps rabbit hole digger for $8,000 on amazon.com to help me get up to speed...express delivery was included for only $50 extra...sweet deal!

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joboo

15th February 2013, 10:50 AM

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Serpo

15th February 2013, 02:34 PM

Serpo's post #369 contains a link to a video of 9-11 showing clearly a wingless missile of size and configuration compatible with a cruise missile hitting the Pentagon. It is as clear as the nose on one's face. Why are you wasting time and energy on the paid government disinformation troll? We have more important things to do, like disseminating this video far and wide. The video is in .flv, an unusual format requiring RealPlayer to view. It would be great if someone could convert this .flv video to other more general formats like quicktime and windows media player.

You mean this one Mamboni................

download flv player

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/29/911-video-of-missile-hitting-pentagon-leaked/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c7KDbHOUso8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c7KDbHOUso8

Serpo

15th February 2013, 03:00 PM

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9/11: Video of Missile Hitting Pentagon Leaked

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10 Years Late, A Cruise Type Missile Hits Pentagon on 9/11

Suppressed video released below 10 years later clearly shows Pentagon attack was a cruise type missile; either a Tomahawk or Russian/Soviet Granit as described by Dimitri Khalezov

YouTube - Veterans Today - (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7KDbHOUso8)
Gov. Jesse Ventura Proves 9/11 Cover-Up asks “Will America’s Government Fall?”

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ScreenHunter_04-Dec.-18-12.07.gif (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/18/gordon-duff-gov-jesse-ventura-proves-911-cover-up-will-americas-government-fall/screenhunter_04-dec-18-12-07/)“thought it was a bomb…walked out through the hole..burning wreckage..no plane parts…threatened to keep silent”

Former Vice President Cheney Accused of Engineering Pentagon Attack

Donald Rumsfeld Cited as Possible Accomplice

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff/)

Confirmed sources in the Nigerian government tell us, in order to keep former Vice President Cheney out of prison for crimes involving Nigeria, $500,000,000 in bribes have been promised, negotiated by former President George H.W. Bush.
Now, only a day later, Cheney faces possible charges, so many charges they can only be imagined, for planning the Pentagon attack on 9/11.
TV host, Jesse Ventura, former Navy Seal, former Governor of Minnesota, on a one hour documentary on prime-time American television, makes an open and shut criminal case tying Cheney, Rumsfeld and officials throughout the US government with complicity in the planning, execution and subsequent cover-up of the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon.

YouTube – Veterans Today - (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ14NRbT-s)(clip is taken down)

According to experts on 9/11, engineers, pilots, intelligence officers and members of our military, Jesse Ventura “hit the joboo on the head.” Ventura, using evidence developed over 9 years by hundreds of individuals, outlines the utter impossibility of the government’s cover story on 9/11 and systematically debunks it using testimony and scientific evidence.
Ventura cites, in an interview with a 9/11 commissioner, a possible motive for the Pentagon attack being included with the attacks on the World Trade Center. $2,300,000,000,000, yes 2.3 trillion US dollars had disappeared, cited only the day before in a televised statement by Secretary Rumsfeld, money “gone missing” from the Pentagon’s accounting. The area of the Pentagon hit by a missile or destroyed by explosives or both contained all records of this missing money.
NO PLANE, NO WAY, NOT EVEN CLOSE
Ventura proves, beyond any doubt that no airplane ever hit the Pentagon. As the video shows, not even a highly trained airline pilot was capable of the maneuvers claimed. Long before, it had been proven that the 757 was incapable of the task, either the maneuvers or the speed and trajectory. The plane would have come apart, there is no disagreement with this and hasn’t been for some time, yet nothing had been done. Why?
It is also clearly shown that there is absolutely no evidence of any kind showing a plane hit the Pentagon, no wreckage, no bodies, no luggage. Items claimed to have been taken to Dover Air Force Base, bodies, plane parts, were never at the Pentagon as both video and testimony prove.

There is also proof that the government threatened witnesses, telling them to support the “aircraft scenario.”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/pentagon-cruise-missle-911.jpgNO MUSLIMS, NO HIJACKERS, NO BOX CUTTERS, ALL PROVEN LIES FINALLY
The basis for the conspiracy theory regarding Muslim hijackers with box cutters was based on supposed phone calls made by Barbara Olson, wife of Bush Solicitor General. Solicitor General Olson claimed he talked to his wife on a
cell phone, spoke with her at length, while she described the hijackings as now dramatized by Hollywood.
When it was proven that a cell phone is incapable of making such calls, Olson claimed it was a “seat back phone.” When it was proven that there were no seat back phones on American Airlines 757 aircraft, nothing further was asked.
Then investigations shows he received one call, lasting “0″ seconds. Ventura questions as to whether Olson was duped or complicit? Should he be arrested too? Was his wife, Barbara, ever really on the plane?
Then Ventura looks into the flight itself. Not only was the flight recorder “dead” but during the flight itself, the transponder was turned off. Even more suspicious, the plane disappeared from radar for 28 minutes.
There is no discussion of this 28 minutes, but speculation, perhaps no longer speculation, has long been that the flight landed. As to what happened then, we cannot guess, or can we. One of my friends, a former Pentagon official, had a
friend on that aircraft. Not long ago, he asked me.
“Gordon, what do you think happened to him, do you think he was executed? Bullet in the brain as they stepped off the plane or something even worse?”

Ventura didn’t go there. None of us want to. It requires visualizing a scene out of Auschwitz.
Can Americans be so brutal, so devious, so traitorous? It isn’t just Jesse Ventura that is willing to risk his life to bring it out, Fox News journalist Geraldo Rivera, several weeks ago, debunked the Building 7 collapse at the World Trade Center as “controlled demolition.”

YouTube – Veterans Today - (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP0Hs-v-uJ0)

9/11 COMMISSION DUPED, ADMITS THERE WAS NO REAL INVESTIGATION AT ALL
Commission video’s redacted to remove testimony by the Secretary of Transportation, transcripts altered, witnesses blocked, evidence, tons of evidence of government conspiracy withheld, this is the case against the government. Threats, intimidation, going on for years, this is proven. Were there more than threats, murders, “heart attacks” or threats against families?
Ventura proves the Pentagon was a government conspiracy, he “names names.” Geraldo makes any other explanation for Building 7 other than “controlled demolition” pure insanity.
IGNORING EVIDENCE, PROOF OF DICTATORSHIP OR ARE ARRESTS PLANNED?
It isn’t as though the evidence presented by Governor Ventura and Geraldo Rivera or even the other stories, Judge Napolitano’s revelations of knowledge of the attacks as early as 1999, was new. All has been know, all highly credible and all systematically ignored, attacked by the press, suppressed by courts, officials at every level.
9/11 and the recent revelations aren’t proof of a conspiracy by 2 men, or Israel. It is proof that there never was an Al Qaeda and that the deaths, two wars, the 9/11 deaths and the carnage across the world wrought by the United States was part of a criminal conspiracy, one that could only be perpetrated by a dictatorship under the guise of representative democracy.
Everything we have seen, and millions around the world have watched, nobody can ignore it anymore, it all says that what has happened is something no American would allow, not if this still were America. Jesse Ventura proved something startling to most, suspected by some. He proved that, at some point in our past, 10 years, more, we don’t know, our government was overthrown.
MORE WIKILEAKS, MORE ASSANGE, MORE 9/11 COVER-UP
The strongest and most vocal opponent of a new 9/11 investigation is Julian Assange of Wikleaks. If any individual outside the US government were to be named as most complicit in a 9/11 cover-up, it would be Julian Assange.

YouTube – Veterans Today - (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TheJPboU4c)

Everything since then, certainly 9/11 and now, the news about Iran and, especially Wikileaks, all subterfuge. When former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinsky cited Wikileaks on a PBS interview, televised nationally, that Wikileaks was the word of an intelligence agency, Israel never reported it or responded.
Instead, they attributed Brzezinski’s quote to me (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/18/danna-harman-bloggers-claim-wikileaks-struck-deal-with-israel-over-diplomatic-cables-leaks/):
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ScreenHunter_07-Dec.-18-13.08.gif (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/18/gordon-duff-gov-jesse-ventura-proves-911-cover-up-will-americas-government-fall/screenhunter_07-dec-18-13-08/)“Speaking to Haaretz, Duff added that ‘it sticks out like a sore thumb that WikiLeaks is obviously concocted by an intelligence agency.’”

This is what Brzezinski told Judy Woodruff of PBS:
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ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: But I think the most serious issues are not those which are getting the headlines right now. Who cares if Berlusconi is described as a clown. Most Italians agree with that.
Who cares if Putin is described as an alpha dog? He probably is flattered by it.
The real issue is, who is feeding Wikipedia on this issue — Wiki — Wiki — WikiLeaks on this issue? They’re getting a lot of information which seems trivial, inconsequential, but some of it seems surprisingly pointed. …The very pointed references to Arab leaders could have as their objective undermining
their political credibility at home, because this kind of public identification of their hostility towards Iran could actually play against them at home.
It’s, rather, a question of whether WikiLeaks are being manipulated by interested parties that want to either complicate our relationship with other governments or want to undermine some governments, because some of these items that are being emphasized and have surfaced are very pointed.
And I wonder whether, in fact, there aren’t some operations internationally, intelligence services, that are feeding stuff to WikiLeaks, because it is a unique opportunity to embarrass us, to embarrass our position, but also to undermine our relations with particular governments.

BUSH, OBAMA, CONTINUING DICTATORSHIP, CONTINUING COVER-UP, CONTINUING WAR
Barak Obama ran for president on a platform based on justice, ending the wars and bringing accountability to government after 8 years of scandals, deceit and what can only be called “hooliganism and piracy.” Instead, he has done nothing, the wars continue, drugs are flowing from Afghanistan even faster than before, 9/11 evidence, now overwhelming and impossible to ignore is still ignored.
Americans looking for reform wonder if Bush left at all. Those complicit are, though few admit it, disturbed by seeing America led by an African American. The visible public face on the very well financed attacks on President Obama are all very much based on race hatred. This has long been the most effective tool for keeping Americans divided and compliant. How else could a major political movement be successful supporting the least popular and least successful policies in American history?
Who would want a return to policies enacted by the least successful president in American history, George W. Bush, who left office with an approval record listed at 22%. Many would find a number lower, even half, more credible. President Clinton, after surviving impeachment for lying about sexual misconduct left office with 68% approval. Thus, we connect the dots and wake up one morning, informed, enraged and utterly powerless.
Even through the assaults on President Obama, many financed by the Koch brothers, tied to ultra-nationalists in Israel, whether there was a real change of government is not clear. As Jesse Ventura pointed out, while Vice President Dick Cheney was getting reports of a plane approaching the Pentagon, seemingly even orchestrating the attack himself, President Bush was in Florida reading to school children. Two years of Obama have been similar, too similar.
What can we assume from this? Is, in fact, the President of the United States no longer Commander in Chief? Did our government hand itself over to “shadow” rule with Bush or did it happen earlier, after President Reagan’s dementia made him unable to manage the cabal that surrounded him? How long have we been operating under no Constitution at all?
The headline on today’s New York Times:
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SENATE BLOCKS BILL FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT STUDENTS

The headline on today’s Washington Post:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ScreenHunter_10-Dec.-18-13.13.gif (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/18/gordon-duff-gov-jesse-ventura-proves-911-cover-up-will-americas-government-fall/screenhunter_10-dec-18-13-13/)

TOP US SPY REMOVED AFTER THREATS

What is “their” message? Certainly not “never again.” In fact we know that “again” is just around the corner, an Iran war with or without a new 9/11, planned and executed by the same folks, older, not wiser and certainly more pathologically insane and murderous.
..and we continue to allow it.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/29/911-video-of-missile-hitting-pentagon-leaked/

joboo

15th February 2013, 04:34 PM

Gordon Duff?

haha what a joke...on top of it all Gordon Duff the proven disinfo agent says it was true!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YZufw3G931Q

4451

JDRock

15th February 2013, 08:29 PM

[QUOTE=joboo;612756]Gordon Duff?

haha what a joke...on top of it all Gordon Duff the proven disinfo agent says it was true!!

SAID the dis-info agent provacetuer himself!! bwaaahahaa

joboo

15th February 2013, 08:46 PM

[QUOTE=joboo;612756]Gordon Duff?

haha what a joke...on top of it all Gordon Duff the proven disinfo agent says it was true!!

SAID the dis-info agent provacetuer himself!! bwaaahahaa

Well that's your own paranoid delusion.

My only "crime" in this thread is I refuse to be a david icke caliber missiletard.

Magic zigzagging missile's! It's as stupid as it gets.

PatColo

15th February 2013, 11:40 PM

I've stated a few times now this is the only aspect of the entire event I have an issue with.

Whose version of said "entire event" are you ref'ing now? This guy's?

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2060&d=1326280140

Specifically,

joobo, as the self-posturing 'sane & rational' 911 researcher you are, what role if any do you speculate "Arab/Muslim Jihadists" played in 911?

So yes, asking you to SPECULATE here based upon your years of sane/rational research & expert internet "debate (http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050116064744556)":

Was America Attacked By Scary Moozlems On 9/11? (http://davidraygriffin.com/articles/was-america-attacked-by-muslims-on-911/) ???

Your GSUS FANS (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo) are dying to know, Pattern of Projection Girl!! (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo&p=612538&viewfull=1#post612538) :D

joboo

15th February 2013, 11:54 PM

Serpo

16th February 2013, 12:12 AM

People's brains fell out over the missile narrative.

It's the only truth based aspect I have an issue with other than September clues, and Judy woods.

Far fetched well poisoning theories designed to embrace the David Icke lunatic mentality.

There's a lot of nuts in the world.

Being a "truther" does not automatically make one exempt. See GLP for additional confirmation.

Much of it has been hijacked, and promoted to kill the movement.

Thats OK we are all entitled too our own opinions ...........................just like Icke

as 99% of what we are fed is BS then so called truthers as you call them will look pretty strange as the truth will also.

joboo

16th February 2013, 12:23 AM

Thats OK we are all entitled too our own opinions ...........................

I agree, as am I. Some people don't agree with that statement when it applies to me though.

I'm the "megaphone undercover Jew enemy internet operative!!" for not going full David Icke level retard with the logic. They like to pull out the knives for an attack the messenger dick stab.

Serpo

16th February 2013, 01:11 AM

No I congratulate you on holding your opinion against all odds but now we must move on as this 9/11 thing has bogged everyone down.

Its not that important one way or another in some ways.

PatColo

16th February 2013, 02:04 AM

Its not that important one way or another in some ways.

the question: "Was America Attacked By Scary Moozlems On 9/11? (http://davidraygriffin.com/articles/was-america-attacked-by-muslims-on-911/)" remains of principal importance. Because as David Ray Griffin concluded therein,

Conclusion

All the proffered evidence that America was attacked by Scary Moozlemismists on 9/11, when subjected to critical scrutiny, appears to have been fabricated. If that is determined indeed to be the case, the implications would be enormous. Discovering and prosecuting the true perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks would obviously be important. The most immediate consequence, however, should be to reverse those attitudes and policies that have been based on the assumption that America was attacked by Scary Moozlemismists on 9/11.

The tiny but noisy/dogmatic "Hijacked Airliner Hit Pentagon" (HAHP) clique's (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2012/10/did-boeing-757-hit-pentagon-on-911.html?showComment=1351074700299#c37131689264152 81985) theory, being in line with djooz' 911 OCT as it is, allows for the possibility that said HAHP was expertly piloted by Hani Hanjour.... also in line with djooz' 911 OCT.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2060&d=1326280140

No HAHP (whether it was in fact missile(s) and/or bombs) eliminates the crucial "scary moozlemismists..." element from (the pentagon portion of) djooz' 911 OCT... crucial because the "scary moozlemismists did 911" element is the whole foundation of djooz' Global War On Terror Hoax (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?23130-The-quot-Israel-did-9-11-quot-Thread). Same reason the difference between Limited-Hangout-LIHOP theories, and djooz-MIHOP Truth (http://rediscover911.com/who-did-911/) remains so crucial-- separating the honest truthers from the shills (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo).

That's why I reckon Pattern of Projection Girl (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo&p=612538&viewfull=1#post612538) remains so deafeningly silent wrt offering her "educated speculation" on the critical question:

Was America Attacked By Scary Moozlems On 9/11? (http://davidraygriffin.com/articles/was-america-attacked-by-muslims-on-911/) ???

everyone who'd like Pattern of Projection Girl (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo&p=612538&viewfull=1#post612538) to offer her best speculation re the answer to that ^ question,
please "Thanks" this post. \uu\

Serpo

16th February 2013, 02:28 AM

Joboo dosnt like the hard questions...............

joboo

16th February 2013, 05:21 PM

No I congratulate you on holding your opinion against all odds but now we must move on as this 9/11 thing has bogged everyone down.

Its not that important one way or another in some ways.

Bogging everyone down?

Since when does the getting to the bottom of what may be the truth have to be all warm, and cozy?

I disagree on it not being important. If people used better judgement on what is logistically possible to execute as a "covert op", everything would be leaps and bounds ahead of where it is now.

Every time something new comes out, there's always a percentage that falls off the deep end. One step forward two steps back. It happens every time without fail.

joboo

16th February 2013, 05:51 PM

the question: "Was America Attacked By Scary Moozlems On 9/11? (http://davidraygriffin.com/articles/was-america-attacked-by-muslims-on-911/)" remains of principal importance. Because as David Ray Griffin concluded therein,

The tiny but noisy/dogmatic "Hijacked Airliner Hit Pentagon" (HAHP) clique's (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2012/10/did-boeing-757-hit-pentagon-on-911.html?showComment=1351074700299#c37131689264152 81985) theory, being in line with djooz' 911 OCT as it is, allows for the possibility that said HAHP was expertly piloted by Hani Hanjour.... also in line with djooz' 911 OCT.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2060&d=1326280140

No HAHP (whether it was in fact missile(s) and/or bombs) eliminates the crucial "scary moozlemismists..." element from (the pentagon portion of) djooz' 911 OCT... crucial because the "scary moozlemismists did 911" element is the whole foundation of djooz' Global War On Terror Hoax (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?23130-The-quot-Israel-did-9-11-quot-Thread). Same reason the difference between Limited-Hangout-LIHOP theories, and djooz-MIHOP Truth (http://rediscover911.com/who-did-911/) remains so crucial-- separating the honest truthers from the shills (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo).

That's why I reckon Pattern of Projection Girl (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo&p=612538&viewfull=1#post612538) remains so deafeningly silent wrt offering her "educated speculation" on the critical question:

Was America Attacked By Scary Moozlems On 9/11? (http://davidraygriffin.com/articles/was-america-attacked-by-muslims-on-911/) ???

everyone who'd like Pattern of Projection Girl (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo&p=612538&viewfull=1#post612538) to offer her best speculation re the answer to that ^ question,
please "Thanks" this post. \uu\

Here's the opinion of the guy you upheld as the second coming of Christ, and posted probably over a million+ times on GIM:

Richard Gage re the magic missile:

“We’re concerned that there’s such a lack of information, a lack of good, accurate information,” he said. “There’s so much disinformation, there’s so much misinformation, and there’s so much animosity within the 9/11 Truth movement that our entry into that arena would be more disruptive than helpful"

"But I do believe there was a plane. These witnesses saw a plane, that’s an important distinction and also a disruptive set of elements in the 9/11 Truth movement. Most people in the 9/11 Truth movement think there was a plane.”

So let me guess Pat...is Richard Gage an undercover joo shill too?

What is he hiding?!?!...he must be covering something up!....or is he smart enough to realize that the logistics of it being a missile, are so unbelievably ridiculous it's a movement killer?

Same position as me. So is Richard Gage an undercover joo operative shill or is it something else?

Serpo

16th February 2013, 05:52 PM

Its just that this isnt the first time we have been through this......

joboo

16th February 2013, 06:14 PM

Judging from the responses in this thread, from what I can gather, not much got accomplished the first time around. ;)

Serpo

16th February 2013, 06:29 PM

Quite the opposite..........

going away to bug out location for few weeks so you wont be hearing much from me

joboo

16th February 2013, 06:52 PM

If you have people like Richard Gage mirroring the same perspectives I am, and there's mountain of posts all disagreeing with that same perspective, at some point you have to stop and think for a second that something is up somewhere.

Cebu_4_2

16th February 2013, 06:55 PM

Joboo dosnt like the hard questions...............

She likes hard things but would rather have inanimate objects since she can't have the real thing.

Horn

16th February 2013, 07:19 PM

Bogging everyone down?....

....If people used better judgement on what is logistically possible to execute as a "covert op", everything would be leaps and bounds ahead of where it is now.

Smokin the good shit over there tonight, are ya?

joboo

16th February 2013, 07:22 PM

...

Speaking of avoiding the hard questions...

If you have people like Richard Gage mirroring the same perspectives I am, and there's mountain of posts all disagreeing with that same perspective, at some point you have to stop and think for a second that something is up somewhere.

So which is it? Richard Gage is joo shill as well?

Some bizarro world logic going on here.

joboo

16th February 2013, 07:28 PM

Smokin the good shit over there tonight, are ya?

People are doing hard work to get the message out, then loony factor ramps up by refusing to really think about it from a complete perspective, and all the hard work of the people who do think about issues from a complete perspective gets lumped in with the fringe.

One step forward two steps back.

You don't think this happens? This is what you call "smoking the good shit"?

Some of you guys have to be paid shills to play out the nutter angle.

Horn

16th February 2013, 07:33 PM

People are doing hard work to get the message out, then loony factor ramps up by refusing to really think about it from a complete perspective, and all the hard work of the people who do think about issues from a complete perspective gets lumped in with the fringe.

One step forward two steps back.

You don't think this happens?

I have no idea what you're talking about, and again you're answering a question with another question.

joboo

16th February 2013, 07:38 PM

I have no idea what you're talking about, and again you're answering a question with another question.

"Smoking the good shit" isn't a question. It's an accusation.

I think you're a paid shill to promote the nutter angle.

Serpo

16th February 2013, 07:41 PM

She likes hard things but would rather have inanimate objects since she can't have the real thing.

So joboo is a women............not being sexist but goes a long way to explaining the logic...............

you a man or women joboo
{--->)

joboo

16th February 2013, 07:43 PM

Shills in this forum paid to promote the crazy 9II angles.

When they get pressed on logic, they attack the messenger.

It's a repeating pattern.

Serpo

16th February 2013, 07:44 PM

"Smoking the good shit" isn't a question. It's an accusation.

I think you're a paid shill to promote the nutter angle.

Until you gain an ounce of credibility here no one will take you seriously.

Serpo

16th February 2013, 07:46 PM

Why pretend to be a women if you are a man?

joboo

16th February 2013, 07:52 PM

Until you gain an ounce of credibility here no one will take you seriously.

The information speaks for itself.

I'm aligned with Richard Gage on this perspective. He has no credibility either right?

You start more threads than anyone on this forum.

http://i.imgur.com/BCS4ySg.jpg

What's up with the symbolism going on in your avatar?

Serpo

16th February 2013, 08:07 PM

Ive often wondered about that myself ...any ideas?

Two cameras ,a record and a music player ,is this symbolism to you.....hahahahah

So I take it you are a male

Serpo

16th February 2013, 08:09 PM

The information speaks for itself.

You start more threads than anyone on this forum.

You corrupt more threads on this forum than anyone.

joboo

16th February 2013, 08:17 PM

Ive often wondered about that myself ...any ideas?

Two cameras ,a record and a music player ,is this symbolism to you.....hahahahah

So I take it you are a male

http://i.imgur.com/zVXCref.jpg
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5061392180839801&pid=15.1&H=159&W=160 (http://www.aquarelart.com/cms/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/owl-symbol-mexico2-e1304929487480.jpg)
https://lh3.ggpht.com/-Rh2ACqsUobI/Tdntb3gwFHI/AAAAAAAABI0/BrgRcr-L7DE/s400/1305587722-53.jpeg

PatColo

16th February 2013, 09:48 PM

In a tawdry display of public indecency, it seems Pattern of Projection Girlhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo&p=612538&viewfull=1#post612538) is working herself up towards some sort of explosive climax of PROJECTION!

a few snips of her latest joobospew:

#55 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62941-prothink-ZCF-drcarley-com-%28more-%29-all-down&p=612913&viewfull=1#post612913)
And Pat, you don't see your ad-hominen character attacks by taking all my posts completely out of their context into words, then pumping them up with big fonts, over and over again with racist http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 photos?

Talk about hypocritical irony http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018.

You know how they say love is blind?

Well...hatred http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 is even better at making someone blind. It disables the mind from thinking properly.

Some people posses a hatred so extreme http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 it completely disables rational thought processes altogether.

You may want to ask yourself.

It seems you're unable to differentiate a character attack from possessing an opinion about topics, and ideas.
#485 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?67136-High-Ranking-US-Major-General-Exposes-September-11-High&p=612998&viewfull=1#post612998)
[...] Some bizarro world logic http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 going on here.
#486 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?67136-High-Ranking-US-Major-General-Exposes-September-11-High&p=613002&viewfull=1#post613002)
[...] Some of you guys have to be paid shills to play out the nutter angle.
#488 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?67136-High-Ranking-US-Major-General-Exposes-September-11-High&p=613006&viewfull=1#post613006)
"Smoking the good shit" isn't a question. It's an accusation.

I think you're a paid shill to promote the nutter angle.
#490 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?67136-High-Ranking-US-Major-General-Exposes-September-11-High&p=613009&viewfull=1#post613009)
Shills in this forum paid to promote the crazy 9II angles.

When they get pressed on logic, they attack the messenger.

It's a repeating pattern.

"a repeating pattern" indeed; here's her updated joobospew projection/ad-hom character attack collection (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62941-prothink-ZCF-drcarley-com-%28more-%29-all-down&p=612858&viewfull=1#post612858) where she targets the mental competency/status/"agenda" of everyone whose ideas are not in compliance with those she labors ad nauseum to coerce here-- still VERY MUCH A PARTIAL COLLECTION, mind!

Schizoid x 1000/deep into moonbat territory/couple loose screws running around/medicated/paranoid/delusional/degenerative memory condition/seriously batshit crazy mofos/idiotic/childish/retarded/cult based/crackpot/faith based religious types/wierded out/scarred intellectually/Crazy/insane/ultra ridiculous/lunatic nonsensical truthers/victims of Loose Change/programmed/lying/idiots/fed disinfo/bordering on insanity/bunch of tinfoil loons/pathetic/in shock out of our heads/disinfo agents/racist/bigoted/anti-Semitic/a bit scary/head goes to some strange places/altered version of reality/mean old top secret undercover joo/ultimate undercover crypto joo/kicked out of his parents basement/throwing a fit/a top secret sleeper cell/racist pro hate agenda/mountain dew kinda guy/Jolt cola fanatic/secret undercover operative/unhealthy paranoia/same strawman nonsense/Paper thin skin wearing a set of glass slippers/can't handle a lick of criticism/Kosher bagel tossing rabbi Jew/No level of paranoia, suspicion, or rabbit hole is ever deep enough/totally wigged out into frenzy/quite possibly intentional, and with purpose/point where a level of hatred can supersede everything/yada/yada/yadahttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018

WOW:o.

How was it for you, Pattern of Projection Girlhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo&p=612538&viewfull=1#post612538)??

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/123/e5ca42d7cc50d8ad0dffde70153b8e71/l.jpg

joboo

16th February 2013, 11:17 PM

I thought you were going to answer the Richard Gage question pat?

Did your eyes stop working?

How many Architects and Engineers agree with Richard Gage again?

Be careful of having an opinion around pat, he'll do a big out of context copy, and paste highschool science fair project mural on how to attack the messenger via character assassination complete with sexual preference pictures.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4640524079989794&pid=15.1&H=120&W=160 (https://s10-us2.ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english&cat=pics&c=pf&q=highschool+science+project&h=3000&w=4000&th=120&tw=160&fn=Article333986_journalismpictures%2520154.JPG&fs=2.7M&el=boss_pics_2&tu=http:%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DH.464052 4079989794%26pid%3D15.1%26H%3D120%26W%3D160&rl=NONE&u=http:%2F%2Fmy.hsj.org%2FSchools%2FNewspaper%2Fta bid%2F100%2Fview%2Ffrontpage%2Fschoolid%2F3213%2Fa rticleid%2F333986%2Fnewspaperid%2F3313%2FScience_F air_Album.aspx&udata=7411d3ec1bd78da8f2a8bb1e04b64021&rid=LDLNQLKSLNTT&oiu=http:%2F%2Fmy.hsj.org%2FPortals%2F2%2FSchools% 2F3213%2FArticle333986_journalismpictures%2520154. JPG)

Pat...Richard Gage wont touch the missiletard angle with a 10 foot pole. He thinks it was an airplane, and that most other 9II skeptics do as well.

Why don't you make one of your science fair murals up for him?

Maybe toss a beanie cap on him, make his nose huge, stuff a bagel in his mouth, then post some random picture, and call it out as his gay lover....you know......your usual.

PatColo

16th February 2013, 11:46 PM

RE: ^
[...]
That's why I reckon Pattern of Projection Girl http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66573-Come-to-Jesus-time-What-do-we-do-with-Jooboo&p=612538&viewfull=1#post612538) remains so deafeningly silent wrt offering her "educated speculation" on the critical question:

Was America Attacked By Scary Moozlems On 9/11? (http://davidraygriffin.com/articles/was-america-attacked-by-muslims-on-911/) ???
[...]

???o)(~:o:|~

joboo

16th February 2013, 11:57 PM

Yes correct, Richard...last name Gage.

You know, the guy you practically made a signature with on every 9II post?

He thinks it was an airplane, and the missile angle is loony toons. The same thing I've been saying.

How's your logic circuitry making out?

If you need me to photoshop a beanie cap on a photo of Richard Gage to help get you started for your next mural project just let me know.