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    Quote Originally Posted by dys View Post
    This is a nonanswer. When I enroll my kid in school, for instance, they do not hand me a document listing the specific requirements associated with the so called 'priviledge'. The requirements may be vaguely insinuated by the American Jurisprudence, and in other places, but that is totally irrelevant as the American Jurisprudence is not contracting with parents enrolling their kids in schools. If the school does not hand me a contract listing the specific terms of said contract, then I have not contracted with the school outside of what is specifically and clearly disclosed in said contract. This is ridiculously obvious and you know that. If you and I make a contract for you to redo my septic system, for example, I cannot write an obscure internet document that says that you also have to do my electrical work, not tell you about it, and then claim that you should have known better and threaten to kill you. Fundamental common sense- the only things contracted for in contracts are those things that are specifically disclosed in contracts.
    What else you got?

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    Go in and ask to see the student rule book or school administration policies,ask if you kid can attend without filling out the forms see what they tell you. Home school if you want. Write up your own contract for a private school if you like.

    There is more than one type of contract, some are called adhesion contracts, citizenship has elements of a contract the offer (citizenship) your parents accepted a birth cert , and you used it to enroll in school and most likely haven changed you status as a US citizen,consideration is the duties and privileges a citizen is required to perform such as registering with selective service or right to hold public office, time, you remain a citizen until you expatriate.

    The terms for SS are laid out in title 42 of the UScode sec.301-305

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    Quote Originally Posted by po boy View Post
    Go in and ask to see the student rule book or school administration policies,ask if you kid can attend without filling out the forms see what they tell you. Home school if you want. Write up your own contract for a private school if you like.

    There is more than one type of contract, some are called adhesion contracts, citizenship has elements of a contract the offer (citizenship) your parents accepted a birth cert , and you used it to enroll in school and most likely haven changed you status as a US citizen,consideration is the duties and privileges a citizen is required to perform such as registering with selective service or right to hold public office, time, you remain a citizen until you expatriate.

    The terms for SS are laid out in title 42 of the UScode sec.301-305
    In other words, the terms of your 'contracts' are created after the fact by one party at the expense of the other....actually it's worse than that as they are NEVER disclosed in a specific way to ANYONE.

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    Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers. <br />And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.<br />Mark 16-17

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    Quote Originally Posted by dys View Post
    In other words, the terms of your 'contracts' are created after the fact by one party at the expense of the other....actually it's worse than that as they are NEVER disclosed in a specific way to ANYONE.

    dys

    The US con, the organic laws of the US, your state statues and con, the US code and on and on are not disclosed?
    It's public record! Ever heard of a freedom of information act?

    It may be better for you to have .gov as your babbysitter as you fail at taking even the most minimum of effort to even look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by po boy View Post
    The US con, the organic laws of the US, your state statues and con, the US code and on and on are not disclosed?
    It's public record! Ever heard of a freedom of information act?

    It may be better for you to have .gov as your babbysitter as you fail at taking even the most minimum of effort to even look.
    Red herring. Nowhere in the US Constitution, even if interpreted in the ass backward way that the criminals interpret it, does it say that if I contract with a school that they can kidnap my kid. And nowhere does it say in the school contract that they can kidnap my kid in exchange for the benefit.

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    Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers. <br />And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.<br />Mark 16-17

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    Quote Originally Posted by dys View Post
    Red herring. Nowhere in the US Constitution, even if interpreted in the ass backward way that the criminals interpret it, does it say that if I contract with a school that they can kidnap my kid. And nowhere does it say in the school contract that they can kidnap my kid in exchange for the benefit.

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    So what does it say? Post it.

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    This is just more joe king and po boy bullshit, trying to blame the victims, as usual. Statist defenders, oligarch enablers.

    The people in America and Canada are born on this soil, and are raised by parents who get them SS numbers because they have been told they have to if they want to go to school or have a job. It's the "norm" and to not get a SS# is radical and extremely incovenient for all parties involved.

    The people have been inculcated with dogma to get their number, and it is absolutely wackey to even consider living your life without one, as far as 99.9% of the population is concerned. So here is Po boy taking up the torch for Joe king, insisting on deflecting the blame from the tyranical and bloated government that is slowly stripping away your rights and freedoms, and onto you.

    As far as po boy is concerned, it's your fault for sitting in that chair if this happens:

    http://www.letterred.com/Images/Lucia's%20Carhouse.jpg

    The driver can't be blamed because you let him do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awoke View Post
    This is just more joe king and po boy bullshit, trying to blame the victims, as usual. Statist defenders, oligarch enablers.

    The people in America and Canada are born on this soil, and are raised by parents who get them SS numbers because they have been told they have to if they want to go to school or have a job. It's the "norm" and to not get a SS# is radical and extremely incovenient for all parties involved.

    The people have been inculcated with dogma to get their number, and it is absolutely wackey to even consider living your life without one, as far as 99.9% of the population is concerned. So here is Po boy taking up the torch for Joe king, insisting on deflecting the blame from the tyranical and bloated government that is slowly stripping away your rights and freedoms, and onto you.



    http://www.letterred.com/Images/Lucia's%20Carhouse.jpg

    The driver can't be blamed because you let him do it.
    I wouldn't want to live so close to the street.
    Your argument is I know having an ssn and bc and citizenship is bad but it's to inconveniencing not to you so you accept the benefits but not the responsibilities or liabilities.Then you whine about it, classic.

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    Thanks not what I'm saying, Joe in disguise.

    What I'm saying is, if you were raised in a community to walk on your hands, and everyone you ever knew walked on their hands, and as far as you were taught in school, everyone every where walked on their hands, you are going to walk on your hands too.

    Until one day you figure out that you can walk on your feet, and it is much more natural to do so.

    This woman was learning how to "walk on her feet", defending her daughter from a bully-system of Pig cops, Doctors, and Child "protection" workers.

    You keep blaming the woman because she may or may not had had her child registered with a SS#, and you keep saying "Tough luck, she agreed to having her child kidnapped by the state if she decided she wasn't going to comply with their tyranical system".

    You make me sick.
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    Their rules? WHAT rules? Again, these contracts do not disclose what you say are their rules. LOL, actually, many of these contracts don't even come with a written document that both parties have to sign. What else you got?

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    I googled "how to enroll public school". One of the first links I got was this.
    http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/enroll/

    It clearly says that....
    Parents registering their children for the first time in a Montgomery County public school must provide proof of age, identity, county residency and immunizations, unless homeless. Required immunizations must be completed within 20 days of registration.

    Which is what the lady in the OP was doing.
    ie declaring her daughters legal status and getting her daughter the immunizations that are required for the benefit of attending public school.

    Then she thought her daughter had a reaction to one of them and took her to a place called The Childrens Center.
    Where they made a diagnosis and perscribed a medication which the lady chose not to give to her daughter.

    At this point, the question becomes, is there a law in her jurisdiction that requires doctors to report to CPS any parents who refuse treatment that has been determined necessary for the childs benefit?
    I'd say probably so.

    Which is when CPS shows up and mom whips out a gun. My question is, where excactly did she think it would all end up once she pulled the gun out and fired it?
    Did she actually think everyone would just go away and all would be well?

    I understand that she wanted what she felt was best for her child, but considering the actions she took, the lady was just about her own worst enemy.


    Here's a few more samples, but they all say the same thing as far as requirements go.
    ...and do really think you won't have to sign a document agreeing to the requirements?

    http://www.dpsnc.net/newcomers/regis...or-grades-1-12
    http://www.cps.edu/Schools/Enroll_in...checklist.aspx
    http://www.jeffcopublicschools.org/enrollment/
    http://www.polk-fl.net/parents/gener...ion/enroll.htm
    http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&hl...earch%3Dsearch=

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe King View Post
    I googled "how to enroll public school". One of the first links I got was this.
    http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/enroll/

    It clearly says that....
    Parents registering their children for the first time in a Montgomery County public school must provide proof of age, identity, county residency and immunizations, unless homeless. Required immunizations must be completed within 20 days of registration.

    Which is what the lady in the OP was doing.
    ie declaring her daughters legal status and getting her daughter the immunizations that are required for the benefit of attending public school.

    Then she thought her daughter had a reaction to one of them and took her to a place called The Childrens Center.
    Where they made a diagnosis and perscribed a medication which the lady chose not to give to her daughter.

    At this point, the question becomes, is there a law in her jurisdiction that requires doctors to report to CPS any parents who refuse treatment that has been determined necessary for the childs benefit?
    I'd say probably so.

    Which is when CPS shows up and mom whips out a gun. My question is, where excactly did she think it would all end up once she pulled the gun out and fired it?
    Did she actually think everyone would just go away and all would be well?

    I understand that she wanted what she felt was best for her child, but considering the actions she took, the lady was just about her own worst enemy.


    Here's a few more samples, but they all say the same thing as far as requirements go.
    ...and do really think you won't have to sign a document agreeing to the requirements?

    http://www.dpsnc.net/newcomers/regis...or-grades-1-12
    http://www.cps.edu/Schools/Enroll_in...checklist.aspx
    http://www.jeffcopublicschools.org/enrollment/
    http://www.polk-fl.net/parents/gener...ion/enroll.htm
    http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&hl...earch%3Dsearch=
    That is your excuse, huh? Piss poor. A google search is not a contract. It obligates no one to anything. Based on your logic I could make a link and title it: how to debate on message forums with dysgenic. Then all I would have to do is explain in my link that every time someone makes a stupid nonsensical comment in a debate against me, they owe me $1000. You'd owe me a fortune under your scenario.
    You seem to be arguing that a school has the power to rule by decree. Guess what? They don't.

    dys
    Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers. <br />And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.<br />Mark 16-17

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