Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

[monty]

Teralee-Jared Morley with Lillie Spencer and 2 others.12 hrs



I was so proud of them. We could hear them hollering in the court room! The US marshals abuse them and shackled them and drag/carried them to the court room door. Ammon and Ryan were told to walk in the courtroom and they replied no, You carry us in in front of these people. US marshals said no we won't do that, you walk or we will take you back to your cell. Ammon and Ryan stayed strong...So they dragged them back to their holding cell and listened through a speaker. THESE MEN WILL CONTINUE TO STAND, That is who they are and I'm damn proud of them!!

So in other words the US MARSHALS can abuse them behind closed doors but they are to walk into court and pretend that everything is just... NOT going to happen! Love you Ammon and Ryan!!

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[monty]

Bundy Story Part 3



https://youtu.be/RvxZzlF67_s

This comment rings true. There is such a large portion of the population who don't see or refuse to see:

Fred Caughlin This makes me sick. What has happened to our country? I have to look away any more when I see that overhead murder video.

I have watched all three of these videos and this should all be put out so everyone can hear about this. Everyone needs to understand that it is not just the other guy (ranchers) it is all of us. It is coming, they are not going to stop with this or the other aspects of their denial of our rights. When have they ever hit a line they will not cross?
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[palani]

Ammon and Ryan were told to walk in the courtroom and they replied no, You carry us in in front of these people.

Necessity is a principle of law. One explanation given for the law of necessity is that of a man convicted to be hung by the neck until dead. If the guards open the cell door and he voluntarily walks to the gallows when he could as well have turned and walked in the opposite direction he is deemed to have consented ... essentially meaning he suicided himself.

Another point. You never walk into a courtroom shackled. You get carried in. And if you are not shackled you don't walk in of your own accord. You turn around and walk (or run) in some other direction.

[monty]

The favorite attack of the environmentalists "A massive 'for sale' sign on our public lands."

I like her already.

http://dennismichaellynch.com/trump-...tary-interior/

Trump Picks Secretary of Interior

It’s been reported by an anonymous source to news outlets that President-elect Donald Trump will choose Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington as his secretary of Interior. McMorris Rodgers currently serves as the chair of the House Republican Conference, making her the highest-ranking GOP woman in Congress.


The choice of McMorris Rodgers is a victory for Republicans, but also a condemnation by environmentalists. League of Conservation Voters President Gene Karpinski claimed the selection amounted to “a massive ‘for sale’ sign on our public lands.”


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“McMorris Rodgers has been part of the Republican leadership of the most anti-environmental House of Representatives in history, and she has an abysmal 4% lifetime score on LCV’s National Environmental Scorecard. She simply should not be put in charge of stewarding America’s wildlife, national parks and other majestic landscapes,” Karpinski continued.


“At best, Trump can delay the inevitable clean energy revolution, but he can’t stop it. McMorris Rodgers is clearly not the right choice for a 21st century Department of Interior that will steward public lands on behalf of the American people,” Greenpeace spokesman Travis Nichols said.


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[Glass]

I have a question. Do the public lands that were accumulated from land holders by the BLM get returned to those land holders or are they to be sold on to new landholders for commercial exploitation?

It seems to me, if you are accumulating land from freeholders under the guise of environmental protection, at some point you will have it all. Then what? Do you actually keep it in environmental stewardship or do you exploit it? Who is going to exploit it if the original holders are no longer around.

Maybe it's just a case of coming full circle?

[palani]

I believe when you start doing transactions in commercial debt you lose the status to be able to hold lands against others. When you identify the error of your ways you might gain natural rights back but the action is hard to maintain. The slightest error and you lose. Before you start bringing up principles of natural law you cannot participate at all in the welfare state schemes. That is a minimum.

I don't know what the maximum is. I am still peeling back layers of the matrix.

[monty]

That is a good question Glass. According to the Constitution for the United States of America the Congress is charged with disposing of the public lands and making all needful rules to do so. The Congress seems to have abided by the Constitution until gold was discovered in the westen states in 1848. Since 1850 The United States has held title to the public land in all of the new states that have been admitted to the Union. They did continue the homestead laws until sometime in the 20th century. In 1976 Congress changed the law saying the public lands will belong to the United States forever.

I am not sure when the BLM began creating hardships on ranchers and buying their property. The first I remember hearing about it was in the early 1970's. The mechanism they have used is to get the environmentalists to create a fuss on a particular area over some endangered species. The Federal government gives the environmentalists grant money, in turn the environmentalists sue the BLM using the federal funds to pay for the litigation. The courts favor the enviros. This in turn cause the BLM to cave to the demands of the environmental groups and turn against the ranchers. The rancher ends up bankrupt, the environmentalists buy up the property at pennies on the dollar and turn it over to the government.

Under the new (unconstitutional) law this newly acquired land is locked away forever in the possession of the federal government.

[palani]

Monty

Be aware that the federal government terminated operations with the XIV amendment and went out of business entirely in 1878. While this might be a bitter pill to absorb realize what is fancifully called the federal government is actually a national government with a constitution. That constitution is not the entire federal constitution but merely the 14th amendment. Very few restrictions on anything they want to do.

You should be aware that the Federalist Papers actually gave nationalist notions. This brought about a party who chose to call themselves 'FEDERALISTS'. Actually they were closet NATIONALISTS but they chose the name for a reason. This left their opposition (aka the true FEDERALISTS) a name that was not aligned with their objectives. They chose the name ANTI-FEDERALISTS. My opinion? This opposition party should have called themselves the ANTI-NATIONALISTS.

You don't run a nation with the constitution of a federation. Likewise only a fool would run a federation with the constitution of nation. Therefore the NATION U.S. of A. has a different constitution that the federation U.S. of A. Neither one pays much attention to the limitations of the Articles of Confederation which was the basis of a CONFEDERATION which chose to sink rather than swim when the U.S. Constitution surfaced.

[monty]

Monty

Be aware that the federal government terminated operations with the XIV amendment and went out of business entirely in 1878. While this might be a bitter pill to absorb realize what is fancifully called the federal government is actually a national government with a constitution. That constitution is not the entire federal constitution but merely the 14th amendment. Very few restrictions on anything.

I am aware. I try to stay out of their 14th amendment national government as much as possible.

[palani]

I am aware. I try to stay out of their 14th amendment national government as much as possible.

Notice (published) is usually sufficient. You can have your name appended to the declaration of independence and thereby become one of the People (precedence was set for this by one of the representatives being permitted to sign after everyone else). Mostly though your actions determine your status. It is hard to keep out the 14th amendment (for instance) and still carry a U.S. passport.