The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Pro thread. G Rated.

[DMac]

to try and get us to vote for mittens.

Unemployment doesn't cover much. Need that 7.50/hour trolling websites for the republicunt party.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those that falsely believe they are free" applies quite nicely to this thread. Almost like it's a bot, but I found a pic that leads me to believe, it is not a bot but an actual person. Sad as that is.



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[Janadele]

Where did we come from? Why are we here? Where do we go after this life? No longer need these universal questions remain unanswered. Said the Saviour:
“Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
“But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
“For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”

In our times of deepest reflection or greatest need, the soul of man reaches heavenward, seeking a divine response to life’s greatest questions: Where did we come from? Why are we here? Where do we go after we leave this life?

Answers to these questions are not discovered within the covers of academia’s textbooks or by checking the Internet. These questions transcend mortality. They embrace eternity. Where did we come from? This query is inevitably thought, if not spoken, by every human being.

The Apostle Paul told the Athenians on Mars’ Hill “we are the offspring of God.” Since we know that our physical bodies are the offspring of our mortal parents, we must probe for the meaning of Paul’s statement. The Lord has declared “the spirit and the body are the soul of man.” Thus it is the spirit which is the offspring of God. The writer of Hebrews refers to Him as “the Father of spirits.” The spirits of all men are literally His “begotten sons and daughters.”

We note that inspired poets have, for our contemplation of this subject, written moving messages and recorded transcendent thoughts. William Wordsworth penned the truth:

Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:
The soul that rises with us, our life’s Star,
Hath had elsewhere its setting,
And cometh from afar:
Not in entire forgetfulness,
And not in utter nakedness,
But trailing clouds of glory do we come
From God, who is our home:
Heaven lies about us in our infancy!

How grateful we should be that a wise Creator fashioned an earth and placed us here, with a veil of forgetfulness of our previous existence so that we might experience a time of testing, an opportunity to prove ourselves in order to qualify for all that God has prepared for us to receive. Clearly, one primary purpose of our existence upon the earth is to obtain a body of flesh and bones. We have also been given the gift of agency. In a thousand ways we are privileged to choose for ourselves. Here we learn from the hard taskmaster of experience. We discern between good and evil. We differentiate as to the bitter and the sweet. We discover that there are consequences attached to our actions.

By obedience to God’s commandments, we can qualify for that “house” spoken of by Jesus when He declared: “In my Father’s house are many mansions. … I go to prepare a place for you … that where I am, there ye may be also.” God, our Father, and Jesus Christ, our Lord, have marked the way to perfection. They beckon us to follow eternal verities and to become perfect, as They are perfect.

The Apostle Paul likened life to a race. To the Hebrews he urged, “Let us lay aside … the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us.” In our zeal, let us not overlook the sage counsel from Ecclesiastes: “The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong.” Actually, the prize belongs to him or her who endures to the end.

Our Heavenly Father did not launch us on our eternal voyage without providing the means whereby we could receive from Him guidance to ensure our safe return. I speak of prayer. I speak too of the whisperings from that still, small voice; and I do not overlook the Holy Scriptures, which contain the word of the Lord and the words of the Prophets—provided to us to help us successfully cross the finish line.

But what of an existence beyond death? Is death the end of all? Robert Blatchford, in his book God and My Neighbor, attacked with vigor accepted Christian beliefs such as God, Christ, prayer, and particularly immortality. He boldly asserted that death was the end of our existence and that no one could prove otherwise. Then a surprising thing happened. His wall of skepticism suddenly crumbled to dust. He was left exposed and undefended. Slowly he began to feel his way back to the faith he had ridiculed and abandoned. What had caused this profound change in his outlook? His wife died. With a broken heart he went into the room where lay all that was mortal of her. He looked again at the face he loved so well. Coming out, he said to a friend: “It is she, and yet it is not she. Everything is changed. Something that was there before is taken away. She is not the same. What can be gone if it be not the soul?”

Later he wrote: “Death is not what some people imagine. It is only like going into another room. In that other room we shall find … the dear women and men and the sweet children we have loved and lost.” My brothers and sisters, we know that death is not the end. This truth has been taught by living Prophets throughout the ages. It is also found in our Holy Scriptures.

In the Book of Mormon we read specific and comforting words: “Now, concerning the state of the soul between death and theresurrection—Behold, it has been made known unto me by an angel, that the spirits of all men, as soon as they are departed from this mortal body, yea, the spirits of all men, whether they be good or evil, are taken home to that God who gave them life.

“And then shall it come to pass, that the spirits of those who are righteous are received into a state of happiness, which is called paradise, a state of rest, a state of peace, where they shall rest from all their troubles and from all care, and sorrow.”

After the Savior was crucified and His body had lain in the tomb for three days, the spirit again entered. The stone was rolled away, and the resurrected Redeemer walked forth, clothed with an immortal body of flesh and bones. The answer to Job’s question, “If a man die, shall he live again?” came when Mary and others approached the tomb and saw two men in shining garments who spoke to them: “Why seek ye the living among the dead? He is not here, but is risen.”

As the result of Christ’s victory over the grave, we shall all be resurrected. This is the redemption of the soul. Paul wrote: “There are … celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.” It is the celestial glory which we seek. It is in the presence of God we desire to dwell. It is a forever family in which we want membership. Such blessings are earned through a lifetime of striving, seeking, repenting, and finally succeeding.

Where did we come from? Why are we here? Where do we go after this life? No longer need these universal questions remain unanswered. From the very depths of my soul and in all humility, I testify that those things of which I have spoken are true. Our Heavenly Father rejoices for those who keep His commandments. He is concerned also for the lost child, the tardy teenager, the wayward youth, the delinquent parent. Tenderly the Master speaks to these and indeed to all: “Come back. Come up. Come in. Come home. Come unto me.”

Thomas S. Monson, Prophet and President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[zap]

Cool goat pictures Ima ! I love goats. :)

[freespirit]

Cool goat pictures Ima ! I love goats. :)

goats are cool! when i lived in BC as a younger man, i worked a farm where we raised boor goats. huge meat to bone ratio, they almost looked like they were cross-bred with a pitbull or something! lol

we also raised black bellied barbados sheep. ;D

[Skirnir_]

As this is a "Pro, G rated" thread such would be off topic. There are other sections of the forum and other threads more suitable to your purposes.

Go cry to R-money, or better yet, why not take it up with your imaginary friends?

[Janadele]

In an exciting state-by-state (and territory) roll call at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, FL, Governor Mitt Romney received 2,016 votes to officially become The Republican nominee for President of the United States. By acclamation, Congressman Paul Ryan also officially became the GOP's nominee for Vice President of the United States.

[MNeagle]

In an exciting state-by-state (and territory) roll call at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, FL, Governor Mitt Romney received 2,016 votes to officially become The Republican nominee for President of the United States. By acclamation, Congressman Paul Ryan also officially became the GOP's nominee for Vice President of the United States.

Is your work here quite done then??

[freespirit]

hey Zap, here's a pic of a boer goat for ya. ;D

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[Dogman]

Is your work here quite done then?? Naw!

Has to stay until the elections, drumming up votes! ;D

[Janadele]

Is yours?

Is your work here quite done then??

[Skirnir_]

I wish to breed with Janaspammer to create a master race of troll-spammers.

[zap]

LOL, I used to have goats here, bunches of them, they didn't look like the bulldog goat though, mountain lions thinned them out, til all I had left was two billies, Billy and Whitey. Goats don't have very good manners, they are kinda like trolls, mine were anyhow.

[ImaCannin]

Ignoramus.....

[ImaCannin]

Ignoramus......

[ImaCannin]

Ignoramus......

[PatColo]

then ​why are you still here??to try and get us to vote for mittens.

and reeling in new 10%-of-income LDS-tithe-paying cultists too, don't forget about that! :D


http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/what-to-expect-at-church-services

If you are considering attending a local Latter-day Saint congregation, we welcome you! We appreciate you taking the time to understand our faith and our people better. Visiting our local congregations and seeing how a ward (what we call our congregations) works are key to understanding what Latter-day Saints believe and how that belief translates into our worship with and service to one another. Your visit will be reflective of Latter-day Saint worship around the world.

Please remember, however, that Sunday services are worship services. You will find an atmosphere of friendship and sociability as well as reverence.

This is the LSD happy happy joy joy thread remember, no dissenting opinions or critical questions allowed! Here, have some


http://underscoopfire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/kool-aid-man.jpg


and since we've so far allowed Jana' her own LDS spam thread, we're obliged to open the floodgates for the ViAGRoW-Penis-EXtnDer™ folks to set up shop here too, a "pro-thread", where any skeptical readers, any unhappy past customers, really anyone deemed ANTI-ViAGRoW-Penis-EXtnDer™ are forbidden! :D\uu\

[ImaCannin]

Ignoramus......

[Janadele]

.. and possibly get off the heated topic of politics...

But of course this is not the political section is it ImaCannin :p nor is it the trivia section.
In case you had forgotten, this is the Religious Section of the forum, and there are important policy reasons for having different sections and threads.


Janadele, I watched this video and thought of you!

How sweet of you ImaCannin to think of me :p :p

[Janadele]

After 3,365 posts I am sure you are aware of just the section and thread in which to do so Pat. Just as you are also aware that this is not the thread, nor is the Religious section the section.
we're obliged to open the floodgates for folks to set up shop here too, a "pro-thread", where skeptical or unhappy customers are forbidden!

[PatColo]

^ there's no thread anywhere at GSUS where critical questions and/or dissenting opinions regarding the topic of the OP, are forbidden. Your "pro-thread" designation in the title is a joke, and will (continue to) be ignored by GSUS members accordingly. :D


I believe Mitt is above such shenanigans. His focus is to assist the US and her people, and thence the world, in this time of dire need... and to continue to follow the eternal Gospel of Jesus Christ. I do not believe there are any strings attached to his campaign in accepting financial assistance.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3555&d=1346226170

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[Janadele]

Ignoramus.

[sirgonzo420]

Ignoramus.

You shouldn't talk about him that way... after all, he is the Republican nominee.


;D

[ImaCannin]

Ignoramus....

[freespirit]

I would say you are the ignoramus janaspammer.
Anyone that can blow that much smoke up a forum's ass without acknowledging the other side of the coin (in a thread you started, btw) completely transcends the realm of ignorance and borders on insanity.

And on a side note to an earlier post of yours, lds' aren't allowed to use playing cards or gamble with anything other than your immortal soul?

Yes, I would have to say you are the ignorant one. Joining this forum and expecting us to swallow all your BS makes you truly ignorant indeed.

[Janadele]

https://www.lds.org/prophets-and-apostles/unto-all-the-world/president-monson-discusses-strengths-of-scouting?lang=eng

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints officially affiliated with the Boy Scouts of America in 1913, after the Scouting movement began in England in 1907, spread to many other countries, and was formally started in the United States in 1910.


Janadele,
I have a question for you since you know all things LDS..... Did the LDS create Boy Scouts? It seems that LDS are heavy into boyscouts.

[ImaCannin]

Ignoramus....

[ImaCannin]

Ignoramus.....

[ImaCannin]

Ignoramus.
Why do you get to call people names but get offended when some one calls you, Mittens, or the LDS a name?

[freespirit]

janaspammer's attitude and approach in this thread brought this to mind....

draws a pretty good parallel, imo...lmao!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqs9DYisSsg

[freespirit]

this is good too...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J234-SvwHFs

[PatColo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0p4_GGDbS0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0p4_GGDbS0&feature=related

[ImaCannin]

I kind of liked that sweet lady... she was right to the point!

[Janadele]

Then do not. LOL ... stick to the idiotic sections where you belong.


.... we dont want to see it or read it....

[Janadele]

The U.S. Navy has posted a second video that features the work of Latter-day Saint Charities volunteers aboard USNS Mercy during Pacific Partnership 2012, a four-month long U.S. Pacific Fleet humanitarian and civic assistance project that ended on 11 August.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3FXyaqOIo&feature=player_embedded

[BrewTech]

Ignoramus.

Stinkyhead!

[freespirit]

Then do not. LOL ... stick to the idiotic sections where you belong.

so you are saying that all the other sub forum sections apart from the religion sub forum are idiotic? that speaks volumes as to your view of this wonderful forum and its membership.

i for one am very offended by this.

if this is how you feel, you are in the wrong place, sister.

last time i checked, this is GOLD-SILVER.US

nowhere on the home page does it say anything about it being jana-donkey's personal, mormon hugging, bible thumping, we're better than you, romney-blog. if you had anything even resembling an open mind, you would be able to hold an intelligent conversation, but since open, honest dialogue is not in your agenda, i fear our efforts to get through to you on any level will be extremely futile.

all that being said, the only question i have is why do you hang around? if it is simply to troll the membership, save us all the trouble and just go away.

[Dogman]

Wonder what you would get if you took and placed, a bunch of latter day saints and with some Scientology people and then stir in a handful of Jehovah witlessness?

Wonder who would win?

Know that most of these types get a lot of doors slammed in their faces.

[JohnQPublic]

...who probably was molested as a child...

Imacanin- please argue with reason, and don't resort to insults.

[zap]

Why haven't we banned the troll yet? Isn't it just spamming ? I think that is in one of the rules NO SPAMMING.

[ImaCannin]

Imacanin- please argue with reason, and don't resort to insults........


Ignoramus.

[zap]

Ban the Spammer!!!!

[BrewTech]

And, span the bammers! In fact bam all spanners! That should do it!

We'll have this place in tip-top shape in no time...

[zap]

And, span the bammers! In fact bam all spanners!Bring out the big hammers That should do it!

We'll have this place in tip-top shape in no time...


Fixed it for ya :)

[freespirit]

And, span the bammers! In fact bam all spanners! That should do it!

We'll have this place in tip-top shape in no time...


...spanners bammed me!! lol

[BrewTech]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/2/12/7e9b3dfb-936e-415c-a655-9d56a6820cf9.jpg

[Skirnir_]

.......

Fanatical papists are not known for their sound reasoning.

[Janadele]

Go and Sin No More

http://www.lds.org/?lang=eng

Watch how the Savior's mercy can relieve sorrows and bring hope for forgiveness when we make mistakes.

[DMac]

This thread is the Jesus version of 301ouncer's missionary work.

[Janadele]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is fourth on the National Council of Churches Yearbook list of the top ten Christian faiths in the USA... ranked by numbers of members.

[freespirit]

...so what?

[Gaillo]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is fourth on the National Council of Churches Yearbook list of the top ten Christian faiths in the USA... ranked by numbers of members.

Which is quite impressive... to idiots who think that reality and truth are somehow arrived at by popular opinion.

Always remember: 100% of the world's population was, at one time, utterly convinced that the world was flat.

[Gaillo]

Why haven't we banned the troll yet? Isn't it just spamming ? I think that is in one of the rules NO SPAMMING.

This one is just too damn fun to ban... endless entertainment and laughs! ;D

[Janadele]

One would expect an administrator of a forum would not consider personal attacks to be entertainment.

[singular_me]

Originally Posted by Janadele
I believe **Mitt is above such shenanigans**. His focus is to assist the US and her people, and thence the world, in this time of dire need... and to continue to follow the eternal Gospel of Jesus Christ. **I do not believe there are any strings attached to his campaign in accepting financial assistance**.


http://youtu.be/BLWnB9FGmWE

Sorry jenadele

[Gaillo]

One would expect an administrator of a forum would not consider personal attacks to be entertainment.

Eh? Have you personally attacked someone? ???

I'm off to check...

[Gaillo]

Ignoramus.

Yep. Looks like you have! You naughty girl!

Continued trolling and personal attacks will have to wait for 3 days! ;)

[Janadele]

Hate comes through loud and clear from anti LDS posters in this thread. It is so strident as to be the only impression given. There is no logic, commonsense nor decency... only negative rage. This is a mindset which hatches needless and senseless violence.

[Janadele]

Some time in the first century the Christian church began to lose or distort some of its foundational doctrines.

For their doctrinal roots, Latter-day Saints look to the teachings of Christ and the Apostles at the time that they lived, 400 years before the various creedal declarations of the early 4th century (and later) from which other Christian denominations emerged.

Hence The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is seen not as a reformation but as a restoration of that ancient church. Latter-day Saints point to the modern parallels with the early church - its twelve apostles, its missionaries who preach two by two, its unpaid ministry at the congregational level, its claim to restored authority, and biblical doctrines on such things as the nature of God.

[chad]

Hate comes through loud and clear from anti LDS posters in this thread. It is so strident as to be the only impression given. There is no logic, commonsense nor decency... only negative rage. This is a mindset which hatches needless and senseless violence.

because you are so logical and the pinnacle of common sense. you've said about 10-15 times in this thread why should you read/listen to anything religious other than what the lds church says (after all, it is super true)? the epitome of logic and common sense. nobody here has any anger or rage towards you, they just don't tolerate public displays of ignorant thinking very well.

[Skirnir_]

Hate comes through loud and clear from anti LDS posters in this thread. It is so strident as to be the only impression given. There is no logic, commonsense nor decency... only negative rage. This is a mindset which hatches needless and senseless violence.

Baloney comes through loud and clear from LDS posters in this thread. It is so strident as to be the only impression given. There is no logic, commonsense nor decency... only baloney and spam. This is a mindset which hatches needless and senseless violence.

[Skirnir_]

Now the penny drops. Who would have thought... this is a Nazi forum. That explains a lot. Except why there is a "religious section" LOL

Some people here have imaginary friends and like to talk about them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZks5jRDbxk

[chad]

Now the penny drops. Who would have thought... this is a Nazi forum. That explains a lot. Except why there is a "religious section" LOL

nazi forum? because people tend to discuss things not on the neocon/political correctness talking points list?

[Skirnir_]

nazi forum? because people tend to discuss things not on the neocon/political correctness talking points list?

Do not reason with a cockroach, squash it.

[Janadele]

My ancestry is Anglo Saxon, from England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and from Erbach, Binswangen, Heilbronn, Walburga, Baden… County of Wurttemberg, Germany : Bender, Frohlne, Mueller, Hellmannin, Krach... who left previous to 1850, before the proud German race was stained by Nazi fanatic murderers.

[chad]

My ancestry is Anglo Saxon, from England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and from Erbach, Binswangen, Heilbronn, Walburga, Baden… County of Wurttemberg, Germany : Bender, Frohlne, Mueller, Hellmannin, Krach... who left previous to 1850, before the proud German race was stained by Nazi fanatic murderers.

so, you're against fanatic murdering. what's your stance on mittens and his support of israel and fanatic murdering of people worldwide in their name? or is that okay because "he's mitt romney?"

[PatColo]

Originally Posted by Janadele http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?p=570297#post570297) Hate comes through loud and clear from anti LDS posters in this thread. It is so strident as to be the only impression given. There is no logic, commonsense nor decency... only negative rage. This is a mindset which hatches needless and senseless violence.

Baloney comes through loud and clear from LDS posters in this thread. It is so strident as to be the only impression given. There is no logic, commonsense nor decency... only baloney and spam. This is a mindset which hatches needless and senseless violence.

yep, the joospew rhetorical MO of inverting reality and projecting their own bad qualities onto their opponents, is so striking!

The Psychological Projections of Organized Jewry (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2011/09/23/the-psychological-projections-of-organized-jewry/) & LDS/Mormonism.

and of course, we again have the attempt to dismiss all questions critical of LDS as being simply "Anti-Mormon"... :o




Santa, This is not an LDS video, it was uploaded by an atheist and produced by Anti-Mormons. There is no point in posting fabrication.

Anti-Mormons? Hahahahaha. Is that like Anti-Semites?

This thread is at reply #120 as I write, and at this point the likeness between organized-Jewry's deeply entrenched pattern of seeking to silence/neutralize critics of Jewry's specific-behaviors/religious-doctrines, with ad-hom attacks defaming the messengers as "anti-Semitic" (while conspicuously NOT addressing specific, valid criticisms brought by said messengers),

and Janadele's pattern of response to criticism in this thread,



Please do not post anti-Mormon literature to this thread, I have no intention of bashing my head against a brick wall responding to any such lies and nonsense. #1 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62718-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-Pro-thread-G-Rated&p=562416&viewfull=1#post562416)

Yes, if the authors are Anti-Mormon then that is their agenda.#40 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62718-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-Pro-thread-G-Rated&p=562542&viewfull=1#post562542)

Santa, This is not an LDS video, it was uploaded by an atheist and produced by Anti-Mormons. There is no point in posting fabrication.#44 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62718-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-Pro-thread-G-Rated&p=562549&viewfull=1#post562549)

sirgonzo, It is an Anti-Mormon cartoon... when time permits I may expand on this comment.#51 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62718-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-Pro-thread-G-Rated&p=562567&viewfull=1#post562567)

Santa, please abide by the topic of this thread as outlined, and post your Anti-Mormon material to another thread. #53 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62718-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-Pro-thread-G-Rated&p=562570&viewfull=1#post562570)

What I object to are posters telling me incorrectly what my Church believes and teaches, and Anti-Mormons promoting their agenda of confusion, misrepresentations and lies designed to prohibit the reader from ever knowing what the doctrines and teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints actually are, whether they agree with them or not.#79 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62718-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-Pro-thread-G-Rated&p=562628&viewfull=1#post562628)

ImaCannin, I have not watched nor heard the video. My time is too precious to be bothered with Anti-Mormon propaganda.#86 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62718-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-Pro-thread-G-Rated&p=562640&viewfull=1#post562640)

The critics of the LDS Church and the critics of Freemasonry are oftentimes one and the same group of people.#101 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62718-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-Pro-thread-G-Rated&p=562676&viewfull=1#post562676)

Were your questions related to the actual teachings and doctrines of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? Or are they from some dubious Anti-Mormon site?#103 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62718-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-Pro-thread-G-Rated&p=562681&viewfull=1#post562681)

No need to bog down in Anti-Mormon nonsense.#107 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62718-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-Pro-thread-G-Rated&p=562687&viewfull=1#post562687)

Anti-Mormons also include the break away groups under this nick name, and do not use the correct name of the LDS Church. They are a satanic group obsessed with hatred of all things "Mormon", it is their life's purpose to attempt to destroy the Lord's Church. They try to do so by many means... even in subtle ways which deceive many into thinking that some of their web-sites and the videos and literature they produce are authentic.#113 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62718-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-Pro-thread-G-Rated&p=562695&viewfull=1#post562695)




... well, the LIKENESS is unmistakable! :o:-X Also see: Thread: Why do Mormons Love Israel? (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62669-Why-do-Mormons-Love-Israel)

There's another striking parallel with Organized Jewry's dogma of portraying themselves as perennial victims of "irrational haters" who, being (fraudulently) labeled "irrational haters" (or, "anti-Mormons" ;)), thus do not dignify any response.

That last snip, #113 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62718-The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-day-Saints-Pro-thread-G-Rated&p=562695&viewfull=1#post562695), is the richest of course, and it oozes of the long pattern of Psychological Projections by Organized Jewry (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2011/09/23/the-psychological-projections-of-organized-jewry/) (a gambit I've long refered to as,the Chutzpah Maneuver (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?52269-quot-Among-The-Truthers-quot-Straus-the-Protocols-and-the-Chutzpah-Maneuver)).

Janadele, please understand, one of the uniting feelings among the membership of this messageboard is our universal detest of "Organized Jewry's" (which I personally equate with Rothschild Zionism (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?23047-The-Zionist-Elephant-In-The-Room)) deeply entrenched pattern of behavior, in seeking to dismiss/silence/evade/neutralize critics of Jewry's specific-behaviors & (racist, supremacist, separatist (http://rense.com/general79/talmud.htm)) religious-doctrines, with ad-hom attacks defaming the messengers as "anti-Semitic" (or haters, bigots, satanists, nazis, yada yada) -- while conspicuously NOT addressing specific, valid criticisms brought by said messengers, as well as the long pattern of Psychological Projections by Organized Jewry (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2011/09/23/the-psychological-projections-of-organized-jewry/) (a gambit which is almost always reflected in their "labels" vilifying the messengers of criticism of Jewry's specific-behaviors/religious-doctrines).

So please understand, attempting to evade/dismiss the questions critical of LDS raised here in that ^ manner, will be ill-received here. Labeling critical questions of LDS as "anti-Mormon" and moving on, is not good enough of a response here.

You must address the specific criticism(s) raised, head-on perhaps with supporting links from LDS so skeptical readers can read your claims at the source. IE: "Claim X is inaccurate because... [Y, Z, with source links]"

[freespirit]

because you are so logical and the pinnacle of common sense. you've said about 10-15 times in this thread why should you read/listen to anything religious other than what the lds church says (after all, it is super true)? the epitome of logic and common sense. nobody here has any anger or rage towards you, they just don't tolerate public displays of ignorant thinking very well.


...could not have said it better, chad!!

...post quoted for truth!!

[PatColo]

Now the penny drops. Who would have thought... this is a Nazi forum. That explains a lot. Except why there is a "religious section" LOL

uh oh, now we've graduated to the NAZI!:o joospew...

Anti-Mormon NAZIs!:o

All of us!!


http://www.bollyn.com/public/Adelson.jpg
"Clever Gambit, Janadele! NAZIS!:o LOL!"
-hardline Zionist casino mogul Sheldon Adelson,
Mitt-for-Brains' biggest sponsor

http://www.bollyn.com/public/SheldonAdelson.jpg

[Skirnir_]

Hey Janaspammer, your ancestors must be proud that you are spamming baloney about your imaginary friends.

[singular_me]

Originally Posted by Janadele View Post
Now the penny drops. Who would have thought... this is a Nazi forum. That explains a lot. Except why there is a "religious section" LOL

Janadele, I am sure you have noticed that I tend to avoid "anti-jewish threads" because I think we have an elite problem (all races/cultures) on earth above all. Now this said, everything that is said on here about zionism is absolutely true. Pointing this out doesnt make one a nazi... err a racist. Unfortunately Mitt Romney stands on the zionist side. Time to wake up, dear!

[freespirit]

Now the penny drops. Who would have thought... this is a Nazi forum. That explains a lot. Except why there is a "religious section" LOL

...three day ban for a personal attack, and this is how you come back?? if you really feel the forum is as you say it is, (and i'm here to tell you it most certainly is not!) then i must repeat an earlier question, which you still haven't answered, btw...

why are you still here?!?

[Skirnir_]

...three day ban for a personal attack, and this is how you come back?? if you really feel the forum is as you say it is, (and i'm here to tell you it most certainly is not!) then i must repeat an earlier question, which you still haven't answered, btw...

why are you still here?!?

The more apropos question might be 'who is paying her to be here?'

[freespirit]

The more apropos question might be 'who is paying her to be here?'


...we can add it to the list of questions she has failed to answer...

[Janadele]

"personal attack" LOL... that is the biggest laugh of all. That was a legitimate response to an unwarranted and unacceptable attack. While all the hate filled disgusting attack posts from the anti LDS, which any decent person yet alone a Christian, would cringe to even sight, are allowed to stay, and even be congratulated. That is the reality here.
...three day ban for a personal attack..

[osoab]

Now the penny drops. Who would have thought... this is a Nazi forum. That explains a lot. Except why there is a "religious section" LOL

That's white nationalists you stupid $@#%@$% for some members here.

So you decided you need more punishment? How many fallacies will you spew forth today?

Oh, by the way, are you calling the forum owner a Nazi?

[osoab]

While all the hate filled disgusting attack posts from the anti LDS,.

I'm not anit-LDS, I'm anti-cult. And you ma'am, have every tendency towards cult like thinking.

Anosognosia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anosognosia) comes to mind when reading your delusions. Granted, you may not be able to comprehend the term and it's meaning.

[chad]

"personal attack" LOL... that is the biggest laugh of all. That was a legitimate response to an unwarranted and unacceptable attack. While all the hate filled disgusting attack posts from the anti LDS, which any decent person yet alone a Christian, would cringe to even sight, are allowed to stay, and even be congratulated. That is the reality here.

you better ask for a pay raise sunshine.

[zap]

Oh Janedale,

Sometimes you have to open your eyes and I know that is scary,and its not funny when reality sets in and you realize the truth, its a hard pill to swallow.

If your not happy here.......You know the way to the door.

[Skirnir_]

Janaspammer, a lack of orgasm can lead to delirium. My suggestion is to purchase a vibrator, or get one of those massaging shower heads and position it strategically. ;D

[Janadele]

There is no on topic question which has not been answered.

...we can add it to the list of questions she has failed to answer...

[freespirit]

"personal attack" LOL... that is the biggest laugh of all. That was a legitimate response to an unwarranted and unacceptable attack. While all the hate filled disgusting attack posts from the anti LDS, which any decent person yet alone a Christian, would cringe to even sight, are allowed to stay, and even be congratulated. That is the reality here.


...you've insulted forum members individually and as a whole in this one thread alone, displayed a staggering level of closed-mindedness, and blatantly ignore direct questions posed to you.

why would anyone here give a shit about anything you have to say when this is your preferred approach?
in the interest of open discussion, the least you could do is make an attempt to prove your position rather than always playing the "anti-lds"card, which seems to be your MO.

that card is gonna get worn out pretty quick if you keep playing it.
put your money where your mouth is. if you have proof, post it. otherwise, get a new attitude and some better stories, because you are becoming monotonous and are boring the shit out of me.

[freespirit]

There is no on topic question which has not been answered.

...*cough*...bullshit...*cough, cough**

[freespirit]

There is no on topic question which has not been answered.

here's a direct and on topic question for you...

does your paycheck come from mitten's campaign fund, or directly from the lds?

here's another...

did you come here to convert members to lds?

and another...

what do you hope to accomplish as a member of this forum?

...i eagerly await your answers to these questions.

[chad]

answer freespirit. without cut and paste, preferably.

[Janadele]

Read my posts as the answers have already been given.

[freespirit]

Read my posts as the answers have already been given.

humor me, and the membership...three simple questions janadele...shouldn't take more than a moment.

[zap]

Maybe its Book reincarnated? :)

[freespirit]

Maybe its Book reincarnated? :)


...if it was book, there'd be more pictures and roll-eyes...lmao ;D

[Janadele]

Read my posts as the answers have already been given.

It is pointless answering off topic nonsense questions. Rather than continue asking questions and never reading answers it would be best to go back to the start of the thread, and read through my posts.

Any genuine lurkers actually interested in answers please note.

As an aside, and of relevance to a couple of questions from freespirit... the moral standards required for membership of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is very high. ;D

[freespirit]

and the intellectual requirement is nil...lol ;D

[freespirit]

still waiting for a straight answer to the three questions in post #583.

[Gaillo]

still waiting for a straight answer to the three questions in post #583.

583 posts? This thread may have set a new record for useless data to post count ratio! ;D

[Janadele]

:)*#*

I have just joined this forum and was straightway confronted with misrepresentations of my faith. My responses resulted in questions off topic to those threads. Hence, a new thread for those who may have genuine interest in obtaining a true answer to a sincere question they may have. Please do not post anti-Mormon literature to this thread, I have no intention of bashing my head against a brick wall responding to any such lies and nonsense. Do so in another thread if you have to.

[Janadele]

:)*#*

Thanks ;) I am wondering this myself. LOL on some forum I clicked on the link

How'd you happen to stumble upon this site? oh, & welcome!

[Janadele]

...

I am unaware there is one. This is the section where the word "Mormon" was in the two threads I saw and responded to .

& this thread belongs in the Religion section

[Skirnir_]

:)*#*http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/175-7016613-8601417?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=vibrating+shower+head

:)*#*http://www.amazon.com/Doc-Johnson-Ivory-Egg-Vibrator/dp/B002E9HZVW?tag=duckduckgo-d-20

Hey Janaspammer - these should cure what ails you! ;D

[Janadele]

:)*#*

It does not concern me whether any posters on this forum are or are not being paid to post. If they are then someone is wasting their money big time. ;D

As for myself, I have never been paid to post on the internet, nor for that matter have I ever been paid, or received any financial gain, for participating with, and at times representing, the many organisations whose aims and beliefs I support.


Posters who accuse others whom they disagree with of being paid to post are mentally disturbed.



It is revealing how critics seem to assume Christians require payment for following their Lord. Most do so voluntarily. But this is a concept that those whose "God" is money and priority financial gain, can not understand nor fathom.

[chad]

so, she refuses to answer them,. instead, we are supposed to wade through 60 pages of cut and paste.

this is akin to politicians going off on a 5 minute tangent that has nothing to do with the question presented to them and then saying over and over "i already answered your question."

she is a paid shill.

[sirgonzo420]

The Mormons and Scientologists should merge.


Kolob... Xenu... spirit body... thetan.


Imagine the possibilities!

[osoab]

:)*#*

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7Se7iswAanA/TKFRTn6fEdI/AAAAAAAAMzg/rnpY2rokozg/s1600/jlu_asshat.jpg

[JohnQPublic]

Do not reason with a cockroach, squash it.

Watch the threatining language, skirnir.

[freespirit]

so, she refuses to answer them. she is a paid shill.

To be fair, she sort of kinda answered one question, lol...
In a non committal, roundabout kinda way.

Still waiting for a. Answer to the other 2 very important questions.

Janadele- are you here to convert members to lds?
-what do you hope to accomplish as a member here?

Since you refuse to answer these very simple questions, i'm afraid I have to agree with Chad.

C'mon now... There's got to be an original thought in your head somewhere.

[Janadele]

Wow Chad, the answer was in the very post before your ridiculous accusation which clearly shows you did not read any of the answers. LOL. There is none so blind as they who will not see.

[freespirit]

Wow Chad, the answer was in the very post before your ridiculous accusation which clearly shows you did not read any of the answers. LOL. There is none so blind as they who will not see.

blah, blah, blah...

still waiting for you to answer the questions posed in #603...

[chad]

Wow Chad, the answer was in the very post before your ridiculous accusation which clearly shows you did not read any of the answers. LOL. There is none so blind as they who will not see.

you answered one, the other two "answers" you gave are some sort of rambling statements that don't answer anything. kahn, i'm laughing at the superior intellect.

[sirgonzo420]

The Mormons and Scientologists should merge.


Kolob... Xenu... spirit body... thetan.


Imagine the possibilities!

HOLY SHIT...

Guess what Mitt Romney's favorite book is?

(if you guessed the Book of Mormon, surprisingly, you'd be wrong)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Battlefield_earth_book_cover.jpg/200px-Battlefield_earth_book_cover.jpg

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_Earth_%28novel%29


A few critics praised the novel, however. The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magazine_of_Fantasy_%26_Science_Fiction) described the book as a "rather good, fast-paced, often fascinating SF adventure yarn."[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_Earth_%28novel%29#cite_note-10) In a 2007 Fox News (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News) interview, current US (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America) presidential (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States) candidate and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney) pointed to the book as his favorite novel.[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_Earth_%28novel%29#cite_note-11)

[Dogman]

HOLY SHIT...

Guess what Mitt Romney's favorite book is?

(if you guessed the Book of Mormon, surprisingly, you'd be wrong)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/89/Battlefield_earth_book_cover.jpg/200px-Battlefield_earth_book_cover.jpg

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_Earth_%28novel%29 So is he a "closet" scientologist? That could explain a few things about Mitt. :o

[sirgonzo420]

So is he a "closet" scientologist? That could explain a few things about Mitt. :o

Well Mormons and Scientologists are just a stone's throw away from each other anyway.

LOL

[Dogman]

Well Mormons and Scientologists are just a stone's throw away from each other anyway.

LOL Take your pick! ;D

http://www.dreamstime.com/cupped-hands-with-little-stones-thumb7847362.jpg

[Santa]

This thread has been very educational for me.

For instance, I never knew I was Anti-Mormon. Now I do.

Cool...Knowledge is just so awesome.

LDS = Latter Day Scientologism run by old perverts wearing magical white underwear. :)

I'll have to tell my grand niece to stay the hell away from any Mormon boys she might meet.

[Dogman]

I'll have to tell my grand niece to stay the hell away from any Mormon boys she might meet.

That may be wise, unless she likes to share him.

[Gaillo]

The Mormons and Scientologists should merge.


Kolob... Xenu... spirit body... thetan.


Imagine the possibilities!

Tom Cruise joins the Osmonds... hillarity ensues! ;D

[Janadele]

The display of ignorance is overwhelming and off topic.

[DMac]

Actually, it is not ignorant nor is it off topic.

You are willingly discussing a religion that believes God lives on some other planet (ALIENS!!!!). Mormons and scientologists are equally absurd**. I am very thankful for this thread as it has actually lowered my respect for Mormons. At first I thought the teevee was giving you folks a bad rap, but no, it is apparently deserved.

It would be nice to see the Scientologists get more of the same. Crazy bunch of nutjobs those...

**Let's not let a little Kolob and Xenu come between friends now :)

[Skirnir_]

The display of ignorance is overwhelming and off topic.

What are you going to do about it?

[sirgonzo420]

The display of ignorance is overwhelming and off topic.

Please shed some light and inform us poor heathen ignorami, so that we may know the wonders of thy mormonic gospel.

You don't have to give away the passwords or secret handshakes, or even have to discuss the weird shit that goes on in temple marriages and temple rituals in general.

[chad]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmQPx8DUZCc

[Gaillo]

The display of ignorance is overwhelming and off topic.

Yes... but you can fix that at any time by re-evaluating your beliefs using reason and logic.
Let us all know how that works out for you... I doubt any of us will be holding our breath! ;D

[k-os]

I think that Mitt has some interesting things to say . . .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5i3F0YnkP0&feature=channel&list=UL

[Gaillo]

.;D.

[Santa]

Hey, if Mittens becomes Emperor, does that mean every female in the world will automatically be his wife?

[Gaillo]

Hey, if Mittens becomes Emperor, does that mean every female in the world will automatically be his wife?

No... but they will be putting in a 4 year supply of bullshit in the white house basement! ;D

[Dogman]

No... but they will be putting in a 4 year supply of bullshit in the white house basement! ;D Hell he carrys that much with him where ever he goes!

[singular_me]

The Mormons and Scientologists should merge.


Kolob... Xenu... spirit body... thetan.


Imagine the possibilities!

since you started it, it dont think I am derailing this thread. Lets add the Urantians to the list

ROFLOL... actually my first farm was in AZ 3 years ago was a 160 acre property with a 5 star rating (with swimming pool and horses, etc), .... seems like a paradise at first sight. They advertise the farm as "avalon gardens" but when we got there, they introduced themselves as "global community alliance" (with 100 members), Urantia Book followers whose premise holds that Christ is a prince from outer space, an alien, and will come back to save them on his spaceship. The Urantia Book was "allegedly" channeled by William Kellogg. www.urantiabook.org/archive/history/wssjr1.htm

We're supposed to stay there for 6 months, but we left after 2 in a hurry.

[Dogman]

since you started it, it dont think I am derailing this thread. Lets add the Urantians to the list

ROFLOL... actually my first farm was in AZ 3 years ago was a 160 acre property with a 5 star rating (with swimming pool and horses, etc), .... seems like a paradise at first sight. They advertise the farm as "avalon gardens" but when we got there, they introduced themselves as "global community alliance" (with 100 members), Urantia Book followers whose premise holds that Christ is a prince from outer space, an alien, and will come back to save them on his spaceship. The Urantia Book was "allegedly" channeled by William Kellogg. www.urantiabook.org/archive/history/wssjr1.htm (http://www.urantiabook.org/archive/history/wssjr1.htm)

We're supposed to stay there for 6 months, but we left after 2 in a hurry. Remember when you were there and posted about your adventure, domes and yurts. At the time you sorta sounded like you were questioning being there, then poof and shazam you were in New Mexico.

[zap]

What are you going to do about it?

I think she is going to spam your ass!

[Dogman]

I think she is going to spam your ass! With or without K-Y? :)&

[Janadele]

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/jst/contents

JOSEPH SMITH TRANSLATION
GENESIS 9: 4-6
(compare Genesis 8: 20-22)
4 And Noah builded an altar unto the Lord, and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar; and gave thanks unto the Lord, and rejoiced in his heart.
5 And the Lord spake unto Noah, and he blessed him. And Noah smelled a sweet savor, and he said in his heart;
6 I will call on the name of the Lord, that he will not again curse the ground any more for man’s sake, for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; and that he will not again smite any more every thing living, as he hath done, while the earth remaineth;

AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
THE FIRST BOOK OF MOSES CALLED
GENESIS
CHAPTER 8
20 ¶ And Noah builded an altar unto the Lord; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.
21 And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man’s sake; for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

[freespirit]

still waiting for your response to my other 2 questions, janadele...

[Janadele]

Gen. 9: 10-15
Man will be held accountable for murder and also for wasting animal life. (compare Genesis 9: 3-9)

JOSEPH SMITH TRANSLATION
GENESIS 9: 10-15
Man will be held accountable for murder and also for wasting animal life. (compare Genesis 9: 3-9)
10 But, the blood of all flesh which I have given you for meat, shall be shed upon the ground, which taketh life thereof, and the blood ye shall not eat.
11 And surely, blood shall not be shed, only for meat, to save your lives; and the blood of every beast will I require at your hands.
12 And whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed; for man shall not shed the blood of man.
13 For a commandment I give, that every man’s brother shall preserve the life of man, for in mine own image have I made man.
14 And a commandment I give unto you, Be ye fruitful and multiply; bring forth abundantly on the earth, and multiply therein.
15 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying, And I, behold, I will establish my covenant with you, which I made unto your father Enoch, concerning your seed after you.


AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
THE FIRST BOOK OF MOSES CALLED
GENESIS CHAPTER 9
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man’s brother will I require the life of man.
6 Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
8 ¶ And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark,

http://scriptures.lds.org/

[Janadele]

THE FIRST BOOK OF MOSES CALLED GENESIS, CHAPTER 9: Authorised King James Version.

16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.


JOSEPH SMITH TRANSLATION
GENESIS 9: 21-25
The rainbow was set in heaven as a reminder of God's covenant to Enoch and to Noah. In the last days the general assembly of the church of the Firstborn the Zion of the Lord in Enoch's time; ( see Moses 7 next post ) will join the righteous on earth. (compare Genesis 9: 16-17)
21 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant, which I made unto thy father Enoch; that, when men shall keep all my commandments, Zion should again come on the earth, the city of Enoch which I have caught up unto myself.
22 And this is mine everlasting covenant, that when thy posterity shall embrace the truth, and look upward, then shall Zion look downward, and all the heavens shall shake with gladness, and the earth shall tremble with joy;
23 And the general assembly of the church of the first-born shall come down out of heaven, and possess the earth, and shall have place until the end come. And this is mine everlasting covenant, which I made with thy father Enoch.
24 And the bow shall be in the cloud, and I will establish my covenant unto thee, which I have made between me and thee, for every living creature of all flesh that shall be upon the earth.
25 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant which I have established between me and thee; for all flesh that shall be upon the earth.

[freespirit]

I think she is going to spam your ass!

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...a little dab'll do ya!! lol

[Skirnir_]

Χαῖρε ὦ Σατανᾶς

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!

2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!

3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!

4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!

5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!

6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!

7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!

8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!

[freespirit]

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[freespirit]

I think she is going to spam your ass!

...hey Zap, you know whats funny? you really nailed an awesome double-entendre with that one!!

while searching for that can of spam, i discovered an acronym for SPAM- the "Society for the Prevention of Anti-Mormonism"

that made me chuckle...;D

[Skirnir_]

Everyone should post North Korean propaganda in this thread to mock Janaspammer's absurd, unquestioning prattle.



Kim Jong Un Visits Residents of Changjon Street Apartment Complex

DPRK state media reported on 4 September (Tuesday) that Kim Jong Un (Kim Cho’ng-u’n) and his wife Ri Sol Ju (Ri So’l-chu) visited families who reside at the Ch’angjon Street Apartment Complex in central Pyongyang. KJU’s last reported public appearance was his attendance at a concert by the Korean People’s Army [KPA] Brass Band. KJU and RSJ’s visit to the Ch’angjon Street apartments was similar to visits made by members of the country’s central leadership in early July. He toured the apartments before sitting and talking with the residents and presenting housewarming gifts. KJU’s first visit was to the apartment of Sim Tong Su and his wife, where sit with the Sim and his wife. He presented them with several housewarming gifts. According to KCNA, at the end of visiting with the Sim Family, Kim Jong Un said, “This is a worthwhile visit.”

KJU and RSJ then visited the family of Pak Sung Il and Jang Sun Nyo. After talking with Pak, his son and other family members, KJU initiated a toast. After the toast, according to KCNA, Ri Sol Ju “presented the dishes personally cooked by her and let the children taste them and kindly taught how to prepare them.” Kim Jong Un and Ri Sol Ju’s final visit was to Mun Kang Sun and his wife, who are both textile workers. According to KCNA the couple was married in May. KJU talked with Mun and his wife about their plans to have children and according to KCNA, “he laughed a hearty laugh, hearing their wishes to get a son and a daughter who will resemble her mother, hero weaver.” KJU toasted the couple and gave them housewarming presents.

[MNeagle]

Would you guys PLEASE STOP FEEDING THE TROLL??

best
advice
ever.


& then the thought occured to me, what if she's paid not merely per post, but per response & interest??

[k-os]

How to Suck at Your Religion

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[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

I gotta believe that these mormons having as many kids as humanly possible is a thorn in the side of the depopulation agenda.

[freespirit]

I gotta believe that these mormons having as many kids as humanly possible is a thorn in the side of the depopulation agenda.

... Also explains how they made the top ten list (it's based on membership numbers)

[Janadele]

Which is around fifteen million at last count.

[Janadele]

The Spirit children of Our Heavenly Father assigned to this earth for their mortal probation are awaiting their mortal bodies. Lucifer is actively doing all he can to prevent this occurring, thereby delaying his day of judgement and banishment.
I gotta believe that these mormons having as many kids as humanly possible is a thorn in the side of the depopulation agenda.

[freespirit]

To be fair, she sort of kinda answered one question, lol...
In a non committal, roundabout kinda way.

Still waiting for an answer to the other 2 very important questions.

Janadele- are you here to convert members to lds?
-what do you hope to accomplish as a member here?

Since you refuse to answer these very simple questions, i'm afraid I have to agree with Chad.

C'mon now... There's got to be an original thought in your head somewhere.

...still waiting for answers to 2 very simple and direct questions...

[Janadele]

Truths restored through the Prophet Joseph Smith bring Adam and Eve out of obscurity and into marvelous light, revealing they were noble and great forebears who “fell that men might be” (2 Ne. 2:25).

Reading about Adam’s life from the Bible alone leaves many unanswered questions. How should we feel about our first parents? Should we bewail Adam and Eve for partaking of the forbidden fruit? What did they really know about the teachings and commandments of God?

Fortunately, the Lord has revealed information that helps answer such questions. These truths are found in the Doctrine and Covenants, Pearl of Great Price, and Book of Mormon, and in the Prophet Joseph Smith’s statements in History of the Church and other writings. Indeed, these sacred writings teach that Adam and Eve were majestic and glorious forebears and that they were taught the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ “from the beginning” (Moses 5:58. These sources instruct us about Adam’s life before Eden, in Eden, in mortality, and in his postmortal state. We are fortunate to have this additional material, for when it is understood properly it renews hope and faith in God and instills confidence in the Bible text and in the Prophets
http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=f63557b60090c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD

[Gaillo]

...still waiting for answers to 2 very simple and direct questions...


You won't get any answers from her... just quotes from "authority" and brainwashed commentary she's been indoctrinated to parrot back. In between fits of uncontrollable laughter at how utterly transparent and unthinking she is, I actually feel some twinges of pity for the poor thing... it must be quite an empty existence going through life as an autotonomous mouthpiece for nonsensical and irrational supernatural beliefs.

[Janadele]

Here's a brilliant suggestion, go start another thread in the general section, and ask similar inane questions there of every member of this forum. Meanwhile off topic nonsense will not be responded to on this thread. So go find another playground. :p

Genuine on topic questions are of course welcome and will be answered.

[zap]

You won't get any answers from her... just quotes from "authority" and brainwashed commentary she's been indoctrinated to parrot back. In between fits of uncontrollable laughter at how utterly transparent and unthinking she is, I actually feel some twinges of pity for the poor thing... it must be quite an empty existence going through life as an autotonomous mouthpiece for nonsensical and irrational supernatural beliefs.

LOL Gaillo, you said a mouthful there and I agree with you completely !!

[Janadele]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DSb3m9bNWkA

You Raise Me Up... great lyrics, great voices.

[freespirit]

Here's a brilliant suggestion, go start another thread in the general section, and ask similar inane questions there of every member of this forum. Meanwhile off topic nonsense will not be responded to on this thread. So go find another playground. :p

Genuine on topic questions are of course welcome and will be answered.

BOTH questions are on topic. and you still haven't answered them.

the first one can be answered with a simple yes or no, the other requires original thought.

[Janadele]

http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/22301/Respite-from-the-world.html

Satan's plan is, essentially, this: Use any force, power, method or means to turn us away from the Savior and to reinforce the natural man within us. One rather effective method to further his plan is to promote small, but annoying, frustrations - the spiritual equivalent of having a small rock in one's shoe - that can keep us spiritually off balance.

Look around. Do you see a lot of frustration and only a little contentment? Is society moving so fast that we often forget the basic things that bring us happiness and joy? Are we seeking for lasting joy from passing pleasures?

To keep our spiritual balance, we must look to the Savior, who promises us peace - but "not as the world giveth." (John 14:27.)

[k-os]

http://www.ldschurchnews.com/articles/22301/Respite-from-the-world.html

Satan's plan is, essentially, this: Use any force, power, method or means to turn us away from the Savior and to reinforce the natural man within us. One rather effective method to further his plan is to promote small, but annoying, frustrations - the spiritual equivalent of having a small rock in one's shoe - that can keep us spiritually off balance.

Look around. Do you see a lot of frustration and only a little contentment? Is society moving so fast that we often forget the basic things that bring us happiness and joy? Are we seeking for lasting joy from passing pleasures?

To keep our spiritual balance, we must look to the Savior, who promises us peace - but "not as the world giveth." (John 14:27.)

Are you even a real person? I am not sure if I can continue to pity you if you are just a program.

[freespirit]

since you wont respond to DIRECT, ON-TOPIC questions, i am going to have to assume and assert that you are a troll here. i think you are unable to answer my questions honestly for fear of being exposed as a troll, and subjected to a possible perma-ban. THAT is why you wont answer my questions...to answer them honestly would be "suicide" as a member here.

[Skirnir_]

Janaspammer, at least be amusing if you're going to post nonsense.

[Dogman]

Janaspammer, at least be amusing if you're going to post nonsense. One thing she is doing very well at is keeping the forum 'Infighting' level low. Plus providing some here with amusement. And that can be "Priceless"! ;D Tho she would do good to provide more personal responses, instead of the cut and past tactics being used so far.

[zap]

I wish I could post a picture, oh ^^^
O:[##]
\uu\

[Neuro]

Until now I haven't posted in this thread, but during the last few days I have read through about half the posts. But my conclusion is that despite Obama, being a narcissistic devil, with no real past, a communist manchurian candidate, he is the lesser of the two evils. It is truly astonishing how low America sunk.

[freespirit]

One thing she is doing very well at is keeping the forum 'Infighting' level low. Plus providing some here with amusement. And that can be "Priceless"! ;D Tho she would do good to provide more personal responses, instead of the cut and past tactics being used so far.

...makes me think she's a robot. perhaps k-os' intuition is correct.

[Dogman]

...makes me think she's a robot. perhaps k-os' intuition is correct. She is human, from what I can see, but it has to be hard for her to post on as many forums as she does at the same time, or close to it anyway. So cut and paste is the quickest way to cover as much ground (different forums) as she apparently does.

True believer, methinks.

Tho, woman's intuition is a powerful thing, so K-os could be right. But the responses overall do not have a AL programs feel at all. But if it was a program, I would like to know who wrote it, that would be a good investment to get into. Artificial intelligence has been one of the computer worlds holy grails.

Just saying!

[Gaillo]

But if it was a program, I would like to know who wrote it, that would be a good investment to get into. Artificial intelligence has been one of the computer worlds holy grails.

Just saying!

Alas... the grail remains out of reach. No intelligence, artificial or otherwise, to be found in her posts! ;D

[singular_me]

Remember when you were there and posted about your adventure, domes and yurts. At the time you sorta sounded like you were questioning being there, then poof and shazam you were in New Mexico.

You have a good memory, Dogman!! we stayed another 2 months after that in AZ though, at some grass fed cattle ranch with a poultry processing plant. When we got there, the first 100 weekly baby chicks had just been delivered... we learned a lot about fencing.... so eventually the owner was getting prepared to slaughter the first 100 birds. Killing 400 chickens per month was not our goal as you can imagine. LOL

well now I assume that is called derailing a thread.

[BrewTech]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmQPx8DUZCc

Funny vid... everyone is playing left-handed.

[Janadele]

We Believe :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_6Ir7knnsM&feature=relmfu

[freespirit]

We Believe :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_6Ir7knnsM&feature=relmfu

do you believe in answering direct, on topic questions? because i'm still waiting. either admit you're a troll here on some kind of internet mission, or answer the questions posed to you.

[Janadele]

:rolleyes: Obviously it is yourself who is trolling. :p
Stick to the section and threads to which you can contribute and be on topic.

[freespirit]

:rolleyes: Obviously it is yourself who is trolling. :p
Stick to the section and threads to which you can contribute and be on topic.

answer the questions. i am merely seeking open discussion on YOUR topic in YOUR thread.

[Janadele]

What you are seeking is to derail the thread with problematic harassment and personal attacks all of which are off topic waste of space and time. Go play elsewhere. :p:p:p

[freespirit]

What you are seeking is to derail the thread with problematic harassment and personal attacks all of which are off topic waste of space and time. Go play elsewhere. :p:p:p


how in the world is it derailing the thread for me to ask you to answer DIRECT and ON TOPIC questions?? i have not attacked you personally at all. at most i have expressed a personal opinion, based upon YOUR POSTS, and your reluctance to answer even the most simple question.

the pursuit of knowledge is never a waste of time.

[Janadele]

This thread is to answer genuine questions as to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. As this is not of interest to you, then there is no need to come onto this thread at all

[freespirit]

This thread is to answer genuine questions as to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. As this is not of interest to you, then there is no need to come onto this thread at all


of which you are a member, no?

therefore the questions qualify, and remain unanswered...

[Janadele]

Certainly I am a member, as are around fifteen million others. Individual members are not the topic.

[freespirit]

Certainly I am a member, as are around fifteen million others. Individual members are not the topic.

do all members join internet forums as a form of missionary work?

[Neuro]

What you are seeking is to derail the thread with problematic harassment and personal attacks all of which are off topic waste of space and time. Go play elsewhere. :p:p:p
He only asked if you were here to recruit members to LDS. It is a yes or no question. Why can't you reply to that?

Instead of answering a simple on topic question in the thread you started, you accuse a long time member of good-standing of thread de-railing, harassment and personal attacks.

[Janadele]

Which is exactly what has happened on this thread as any fool can plainly see.

[Janadele]

Freespirit: I am led to believe there are a number of LDS members on this forum. What they or any other member chooses to do is not my prerogative to know, nor is it my business... nor is it yours.

[Neuro]

Which is exactly what has happened on this thread as any fool can plainly see.
What? You didn't answer the questions, why should he back off from you refusing to answer perfectly legitimate on-topic questions?

[Neuro]

Freespirit: I am led to believe there are a number of LDS members on this forum. What they or any other member chooses to do is not my prerogative to know, nor is it my business... nor is it yours.
What led you to believe that?

[freespirit]

What? You didn't answer the questions, why should he back off from you refusing to answer perfectly legitimate on-topic questions?


she will not directly answer the questions because if she answers truthfully (if my suspicions are correct), she will expose her true purpose here, and if she answers dishonestly, she will be caught in a lie...either way she would be screwed.

[Janadele]

Such nonsense does not warrant reply. One wonders how a simple term as on topic / off topic cannot be understood. There is nothing more to say on the matter.

[freespirit]

Such nonsense does not warrant reply. One wonders how a simple term as on topic / off topic cannot be understood. There is nothing more to say on the matter.

...indeed. it would seem you are the only one having trouble differentiating between the two...

[Neuro]

she will not directly answer the questions because if she answers truthfully (if my suspicions are correct), she will expose her true purpose here, and if she answers dishonestly, she will be caught in a lie...either way she would be screwed.
I wonder if it is a sin among Mormons to tell lies? Or is it ok to lie to non-believers?

[freespirit]

I wonder if it is a sin among Mormons to tell lies? Or is it ok to lie to non-believers?

...that is an excellent, on topic question Neuro... any bets on a straight answer??

[Neuro]

...that is an excellent, on topic question Neuro... any bets on a straight answer??
Don't hold your breath waiting for the reply...

[freespirit]

Don't hold your breath waiting for the reply...

it may take awhile for her superiors to provide her with a sufficiently confusing and obtuse answer to your question...

apparently my questions have had them stumped for a couple of days, lol

[Janadele]

:)*#*


I am a long-time lurker, occasional poster, and active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I don't get drawn into these silly, repetitive arguments. I have heard them all before, and I am still quite comfortable in my position. You won't change my mind, and I won't assume that I can change yours.

But there is a question implied here and elsewhere that I believe does need to be addressed. It is "How can Mitt Romney and Harry Reid BOTH be faithful members of the same church?" Many assume that it can't be true, because they are used to pastors and preachers telling them how to vote. The answer is that the LDS church really does mean the Statement of Political Neutrality posted on lds.org. You really can be a republican, democrat, conservative, or liberal, and still be a "good" Mormon. You can't preach politics or have a political argument in an LDS building. People (and not just the people in charge) will stop you. We really don't want partisan stuff happening in our buildings. And we really do have differing opinions.

[freespirit]

Freespirit: I am led to believe there are a number of LDS members on this forum.


:)*#*

http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by ArizonaDad http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?p=562505#post562505)
I am a long-time lurker, occasional poster, and active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I don't get drawn into these silly, repetitive arguments. I have heard them all before, and I am still quite comfortable in my position. You won't change my mind, and I won't assume that I can change yours.




how in the world of logic does one poster stating his faith translate into "a number of lds members" on this forum?

[Neuro]

:)*#*
Fantastic! Btw, did you get the phone number for general of darkness? It's 666-lovepound!

[Janadele]

:)*#*

I'm ArizonaDad, and I'm a Mormon.

I don't think it is fair to state that Mormons love Jews. I haven't read much of the thread, and I won't be checking in to see who flames me, or who asks me silly questions. But please allow me to add some clarity on how many of us Mormons feel about Israel, and the Jews.

We believe the Bible to be the Word of God as far as it is translated correctly. But we don't hide behind that. We believe the Bible to mean exactly what it says, and have very few specific instances where a correction needs to be made in translation. The Bible says, in Ezekiel 38 and 39 that Israel will be attacked from the North in the near future by an immense force. Jesus will return in the midst of the attack and miraculously rescue Israel and destroy its attackers.

No matter what Israel or the Jews do in the meantime, we have to be on Jesus's side at that time, and Jesus will be on the side of Israel.

[freespirit]

:)*#*


...still unable to answer my questions? i'm still waiting....

[Janadele]

Patience means active waiting and enduring.

The children of Israel waited 40 years in the wilderness before they could enter the promised land. Jacob waited 7 long years for Rachel. The Jews waited 70 years in Babylon before they could return to rebuild the Temple. The Nephites waited for a sign of Christ’s birth, even knowing that if the sign did not come, they would perish. Joseph Smith’s trials in Liberty Jail caused even the prophet of God to wonder, “How long?”

In each case, Heavenly Father had a purpose in requiring that His children wait.

Every one of us is called to wait in our own way. We wait for answers to prayers. We wait for things which at the time may appear so right and so good to us that we can’t possibly imagine why Heavenly Father would delay the answer.

God’s promises are not always fulfilled as quickly as or in the way we might hope; they come according to His timing and in His ways. We must learn that in the Lord’s plan, our understanding comes “line upon line, precept upon precept.” In short, knowledge and understanding come at the price of patience.

[Stop Making Cents]

Mormons have some very good qualities about them. Their founder didn't like niggers, and I like how they discourage alcohol and drug use. They also teach their followers to have a years's supply of food for emergency. And they seem to have strong, large white families. Polygamy certainly appeals to me as well, although my wife would never go for it.

Mormons are good people and could well be one of the few remnants of the white race in a few generations.

Make no mistake, their founder was a lying shyster lunatic IMO, but as I say there's a lot to like about the Mormon people.

[freespirit]

Patience means active waiting and enduring.

The children of Israel waited 40 years in the wilderness before they could enter the promised land. Jacob waited 7 long years for Rachel. The Jews waited 70 years in Babylon before they could return to rebuild the Temple. The Nephites waited for a sign of Christ’s birth, even knowing that if the sign did not come, they would perish. Joseph Smith’s trials in Liberty Jail caused even the prophet of God to wonder, “How long?”

In each case, Heavenly Father had a purpose in requiring that His children wait.

Every one of us is called to wait in our own way. We wait for answers to prayers. We wait for things which at the time may appear so right and so good to us that we can’t possibly imagine why Heavenly Father would delay the answer.

God’s promises are not always fulfilled as quickly as or in the way we might hope; they come according to His timing and in His ways. We must learn that in the Lord’s plan, our understanding comes “line upon line, precept upon precept.” In short, knowledge and understanding come at the price of patience.

you are so completely and utterly full of shit. you can't even answer the simplest of questions.

[Janadele]

Gutter language. Wash out your mouth with soap.

[Gaillo]

Gutter language. Wash out your mouth with soap.

Why don't you give us all a break, lady? This is OUR forum, formed over years by people who do NOT hold your values to be sacred, important, or in many cases even noticeable. You have NO superior rights to show up spamming the place with your whackjob religion and fucktard presidential candidate assclown idiocy... then tell us to "wash our mouths out with soap" when we reply how we please. We tolerate free speech here, something you obviously want to see wiped off the social landscape... well TO HELL WITH THAT! Last time I checked, all the words used here were still legal, so don't be surprised if a few people here who believe in FREEDOM, INDIVIDUALITY, RATIONALITY, and SELF-DETERMINATION choose to tell you EXACTLY how they feel about you and your crock of bullshit, using the colorful (and thankfully, still legal) words of their choice.

You think this place is a gutter anyway, so don't be surprised to hear some "gutter language" if you choose to continue wallowing in it. Better yet, why don't you do us ALL a favor and fuck off to some GOP tard site to hobnob with like-minded morons? Oh... wait... I left out the extra "m"... or did I? ::)

It's been obvious to pretty much the entire forum membership from the first day you arrived that you're a spammer and a shit stirring troll, the amusement factor is the ONLY reason you haven't been permabanned so far. Don't push your luck, the hilarity that ensues when you post walks an EXTREMELY fine line when weighed against your superiority-complex moralistic judgmentalism directed at our members! :(

[Janadele]

This is the religious section of the forum, disgusting language, problematic harassment and personal attacks and the opinions of atheists are off topic to this thread.

[Gaillo]

This is the religious section of the forum, disgusting language, problematic harassment and personal attacks and the opinions of atheists are off topic to this section and thread.

You're new around here, aren't you? ;D

I'm an Atheist. Are you telling me that I can't discuss my own spiritual belief system (religion) of Atheism in the religious section? I beg to differ...

[Neuro]

why don't you give us all a break, lady? This is our forum, formed over years by people who do not hold your values to be sacred, important, or in many cases even noticeable. You have no superior rights to show up spamming the place with your whackjob religion and fucktard presidential candidate assclown idiocy... Then tell us to "wash our mouths out with soap" when we reply how we please. We tolerate free speech here, something you obviously want to see wiped off the social landscape... Well to hell with that! Last time i checked, all the words used here were still legal, so don't be surprised if a few people here who believe in freedom, individuality, rationality, and self-determination choose to tell you exactly how they feel about you and your crock of bullshit, using the colorful (and thankfully, still legal) words of their choice.

You think this place is a gutter anyway, so don't be surprised to hear some "gutter language" if you choose to continue wallowing in it. Better yet, why don't you do us all a favor and fuck off to some gop tard site to hobnob with like-minded morons? Oh... Wait... I left out the extra "m"... Or did i? ::)

it's been obvious to pretty much the entire forum membership from the first day you arrived that you're a spammer and a shit stirring troll, the amusement factor is the only reason you haven't been permabanned so far. Don't push your luck, the hilarity that ensues when you post walks an extremely fine line when weighed against your superiority-complex moralistic judgmentalism directed at our members! :(
lol! 100%!

[Janadele]

I am well aware you are an Atheist, that has been perfectly clear from the start. But yes, I stand corrected, it is a "religion"... that is a fact I had forgotten. However in this thread atheism and immorality is off topic.

[PatColo]

fucktard presidential candidate assclown idiocy...

hey now, Mitt "CA$INO" Romney (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/24/opinion/sunday/what-sheldon-adelson-wants.html) deserves better than that! He and his Sugar Daddy Sheldon promise a new casino in every town! Jobs, Jobs, JOB$$$$ !



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I believe Mitt is above such shenanigans. His focus is to assist the US and her people, and thence the world, in this time of dire need... and to continue to follow the eternal Gospel of Jesus Christ. I do not believe there are any strings attached to his campaign in accepting financial assistance.
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[Skirnir_]

This is the religious section of the forum, disgusting language, problematic harassment and personal attacks and the opinions of atheists are off topic to this section and thread.

This is the religious section of the forum, disgusting mormon baloney, problematic harassment and personal attacks and the opinions of mormons are off topic to this section and thread.

[Spectrism]

Many of you and even the administrator come onto this thread with vile language and pretend to champion free speech.... and when you read the slightest "religious" thing on the general forum, you want it banished to the religious sub-forum. YOU ARE HYPOCRITES!

And Janadele is right.... your language is filthy.

You want to proclaim you are an atheist as if that is a badge of brilliance, but it shows your weakness and blindness. The children here who get to use their potty-mouths in place of decent discussion prove they are inept.

I will remember this line Gaillo- next time you want to ban me for saying something mild compared with your embarassing insults, sexual innuendos and partial attacks on members who believe in God.


I'm an Atheist. Are you telling me that I can't discuss my own spiritual belief system (religion) of Atheism in the religious section? I beg to differ...




Why don't you give us all a break, lady? This is OUR forum, formed over years by people who do NOT hold your values to be sacred, important, or in many cases even noticeable. You have NO superior rights to show up spamming the place with your whackjob religion and fucktard presidential candidate assclown idiocy... then tell us to "wash our mouths out with soap" when we reply how we please. We tolerate free speech here, something you obviously want to see wiped off the social landscape... well TO HELL WITH THAT! Last time I checked, all the words used here were still legal, so don't be surprised if a few people here who believe in FREEDOM, INDIVIDUALITY, RATIONALITY, and SELF-DETERMINATION choose to tell you EXACTLY how they feel about you and your crock of bullshit, using the colorful (and thankfully, still legal) words of their choice.

You think this place is a gutter anyway, so don't be surprised to hear some "gutter language" if you choose to continue wallowing in it. Better yet, why don't you do us ALL a favor and fuck off to some GOP tard site to hobnob with like-minded morons? Oh... wait... I left out the extra "m"... or did I? ::)

It's been obvious to pretty much the entire forum membership from the first day you arrived that you're a spammer and a shit stirring troll, the amusement factor is the ONLY reason you haven't been permabanned so far. Don't push your luck, the hilarity that ensues when you post walks an EXTREMELY fine line when weighed against your superiority-complex moralistic judgmentalism directed at our members! :(


Nice. Real nice. I told you all this forum is doomed. I am calling for a recall of Gaillo as administrator. He has lost any impartiality and just does not cut the mustard here.

[sirgonzo420]

Mormons have some very good qualities about them. Their founder didn't like niggers, and I like how they discourage alcohol and drug use. They also teach their followers to have a years's supply of food for emergency. And they seem to have strong, large white families. Polygamy certainly appeals to me as well, although my wife would never go for it.

Mormons are good people and could well be one of the few remnants of the white race in a few generations.

Make no mistake, their founder was a lying shyster lunatic IMO, but as I say there's a lot to like about the Mormon people.

You should post more, Fred!

[Neuro]

Many of you and even the administrator come onto this thread with vile language and pretend to champion free speech.... and when you read the slightest "religious" thing on the general forum, you want it banished to the religious sub-forum. YOU ARE HYPOCRITES!

And Janadele is right.... your language is filthy.

You want to proclaim you are an atheist as if that is a badge of brilliance, but it shows your weakness and blindness. The children here who get to use their potty-mouths in place of decent discussion prove they are inept.

I will remember this line Gaillo- next time you want to ban me for saying something mild compared with your embarassing insults, sexual innuendos and partial attacks on members who believe in God.


Nice. Real nice. I told you all this forum is doomed. I am calling for a recall of Gaillo as administrator. He has lost any impartiality and just does not cut the mustard here.
Yes, if Gaillo goes so does the forum... The fun is over, ban the Mormon spammer, and let's return to normalcy...

[undgrd]

Why don't you give us all a break, lady? This is OUR forum, formed over years by people who do NOT hold your values to be sacred, important, or in many cases even noticeable. You have NO superior rights to show up spamming the place with your whackjob religion and fucktard presidential candidate assclown idiocy... then tell us to "wash our mouths out with soap" when we reply how we please. We tolerate free speech here, something you obviously want to see wiped off the social landscape... well TO HELL WITH THAT! Last time I checked, all the words used here were still legal, so don't be surprised if a few people here who believe in FREEDOM, INDIVIDUALITY, RATIONALITY, and SELF-DETERMINATION choose to tell you EXACTLY how they feel about you and your crock of bullshit, using the colorful (and thankfully, still legal) words of their choice.

You think this place is a gutter anyway, so don't be surprised to hear some "gutter language" if you choose to continue wallowing in it. Better yet, why don't you do us ALL a favor and fuck off to some GOP tard site to hobnob with like-minded morons? Oh... wait... I left out the extra "m"... or did I? ::)

It's been obvious to pretty much the entire forum membership from the first day you arrived that you're a spammer and a shit stirring troll, the amusement factor is the ONLY reason you haven't been permabanned so far. Don't push your luck, the hilarity that ensues when you post walks an EXTREMELY fine line when weighed against your superiority-complex moralistic judgmentalism directed at our members! :(

What a conundrum....

http://images.puahate.com/mods-gone-wild.png

[Gaillo]

You should post more, Fred!

Actually, I think it's Mayhem, not fred...
Just watching and gathering more data to be sure. ;)

[Gaillo]

Nice. Real nice. I told you all this forum is doomed. I am calling for a recall of Gaillo as administrator. He has lost any impartiality and just does not cut the mustard here.

The rumors of this forum's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

By the way, what are you whining about? I've "lost any impartiality" because I choose to express my opinion about your delusional beliefs and use some words you object to? Who have I banned over all this religious stuff? Yourself, StreetsofIgnorance, and even the mormon troll romnobot spammer are all STILL HERE, if you haven't noticed! ;D

[osoab]

The rumors of this forum's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

By the way, what are you whining about? I've "lost any impartiality" because I choose to express my opinion about your delusional beliefs and use some words you object to? Who have I banned over all this religious stuff? Yourself, StreetsofIgnorance, and even the mormon troll romnobot spammer are all STILL HERE, if you haven't noticed! ;D

Probably because you told her to "fuck off" in your post. Spec was banned for less than that.

[Gaillo]

Probably because you told her to "fuck off" in your post. Spec was banned for less than that.

I see.

Other insults of similarly equal magnitude have been slung at the spammer by other members... perhaps it's time to ban it in the interest of fairness? ???

As far as I'm concerned, Janadele has been nothing but trouble since "she" arrived... the overwhelming forum opinion is to ban the troll, I've personally found it to be too hilarious to not keep around for a while though. However, if the "punching bag" factor has worn off and it's starting to cause real division, it might be time.

[Janadele]

Thank you Spectrism for your wise words. More Christians are needed to speak up in this wilderness of error.


Many of you and even the administrator come onto this thread with vile language and pretend to champion free speech.... and when you read the slightest "religious" thing on the general forum, you want it banished to the religious sub-forum. YOU ARE HYPOCRITES!

And Janadele is right.... your language is filthy.

You want to proclaim you are an atheist as if that is a badge of brilliance, but it shows your weakness and blindness. The children here who get to use their potty-mouths in place of decent discussion prove they are inept.

I will remember this line Gaillo- next time you want to ban me for saying something mild compared with your embarassing insults, sexual innuendos and partial attacks on members who believe in God.

Nice. Real nice. I told you all this forum is doomed. I am calling for a recall of Gaillo as administrator. He has lost any impartiality and just does not cut the mustard here.

[zap]

Really Janadele, you kinda remind me of Obama Miss divider, why are you here?

I am going to say it slowww nowwww , Why are you here?

[Spectrism]

Really Janadele, you kinda remind me of Obama Miss divider, why are you here?
I am going to say it slowww nowwww , Why are you here?

Zap- I know you mean well, but I don't see J as being the issue. Maybe I am wrong- that is possible. But, if someone acts like a light, they are not at fault when we see the roaches running around the place. Something else brought in the roaches.

What is she dividing? Really consider what sides there are here and who is being divided.

[7th trump]

Zap- I know you mean well, but I don't see J as being the issue. Maybe I am wrong- that is possible. But, if someone acts like a light, they are not at fault when we see the roaches running around the place. Something else brought in the roaches.

What is she dividing? Really consider what sides there are here and who is being divided.
Boy!!!!!!! you sure hit the nail on the head Spec.
Mention God and watch the roaches scramble....you'll know who the roaches are when the light is turned on.
Just observe midnight rambler's posts.....hes all about putin and russia kicking America's ass!
He absolutely enjoys talking about how great the soviets are. He doesnt mind viewing Mr. Putin as a macho man that he isnt.
I wonder if midnight rambler realizes everything communism stands for is all deception and murder?

I've noticed the overall mental shift of the forum attitude several months ago.
I dont post much anymore because of it...seems nobody really cares about right from wrong or whats in store for them (and you talk about the sheeple being sheep) ...all they want to do is blame everything on the jews and wont look at themselves for some of the blame for the world being what it is today.
This forum is confused and has been rotting from within for months now.

I've said this before and I'll say it again.....you people are dangerous to be around than the sheeple when the shyt has hit the fan.

[Horn]

Probably because you told her to "fuck off" in your post. Spec was banned for less than that.

It's Spectro for short, not Spec.

[Blink]

A simple request. If you are disgusted/offended by posters on this forum and your high morales cringe at things being said, then really, why don't you leave. I don't walk into someone's house and complain about things I don't like. If I don't like the place, I leave. Do offended religious types check their common sense at the door or is it some underlying need to save the sinners. Now, I didn't swear, but if you got a good answer then say it, if you don't then leave. If you don't leave, your a f*cking troll that deserves no honor or respect............... to many nuns with rulers around here.

[Spectrism]

A simple request. If you are disgusted/offended by posters on this forum and your high morales cringe at things being said, then really, why don't you leave. I don't walk into someone's house and complain about things I don't like. If I don't like the place, I leave. Do offended religious types check their common sense at the door or is it some underlying need to save the sinners. Now, I didn't swear, but if you got a good answer then say it, if you don't then leave. If you don't leave, your a f*cking troll that deserves no honor or respect............... to many nuns with rulers around here.


If a group of people decide to work on a housing project together, they pitch in and seek to build a decent community. Do any of them own it? No- just the land owner. But for one of them to tell another to leave the community because he likes to see people, including himself, wallow in dung, is just a little beyond stupidity.

I came here from GIM and enjoyed many posters and tried to contribute to the forum. What I have to contribute to this forum is desperately needed. If, however, the owner of this land does not want to change this party of dung wallowers, then I will take that advice and spend my time in a couple nicer neighborhoods.

[Horn]

Do offended religious types check their common sense at the door or is it some underlying need to save the sinners.

Its their part of creating heaven on Earth.

You won't know how this feels until you've tried on the underwear...

[freespirit]

Really Janadele, you kinda remind me of Obama Miss divider, why are you here?

I am going to say it slowww nowwww , Why are you here?

...IMO s/he/it is here to recruit new members to lds. When asked directly several times if this was the case, she flat out refused to answer. I can only conclude that my suspicions are correct, as j will not refute this claim.

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

[Blink]

If a group of people decide to work on a housing project together, they pitch in and seek to build a decent community. Do any of them own it? No- just the land owner. But for one of them to tell another to leave the community because he likes to see people, including himself, wallow in dung, is just a little beyond stupidity.

I came here from GIM and enjoyed many posters and tried to contribute to the forum. What I have to contribute to this forum is desperately needed. If, however, the owner of this land does not want to change this party of dung wallowers, then I will take that advice and spend my time in a couple nicer neighborhoods.


Why don't you go back to GIM then? Its more controlled than ever before, but, you might find the civility and acceptance you seem to desire. I hang at both and trolls are accepted on GIM (agenda) whereas here they get outed for their determined attacks on free speech and beliefs. You can't really mention Israel or (lord forbid) the word Jew over there any more. Considering they run the banks/media/government you would think the site would be full of discussions, think again. At least here a spade can be called a spade without some politically correct ADL watchdog itching to burn you at the stake or call you racist or anti-semite. I really don't care for posters like this mormon person for the simple fact that they are not here to discuss but to indoctrinate. It spurs any discussion that casts a not to perfect shadow on it's belief system. But, you have to wonder why its bitter times now, because in the beginning Jan was given the respect of a new poster until it was realized it had an mormon/Romney agenda and was not going to listen to any counter arguments except to cut/paste preachings of the mormon. At that point refer to the last line of what I posted above............ Read the whole thread front to back and if you don't see the issues besides, "the vulgar language", then your not someone worthy of listening too either............... I have a feeling that you know all this anyways, but have your own agenda to push. C'est la vie.

[Spectrism]

...IMO s/he/it is here to recruit new members to lds. When asked directly several times if this was the case, she flat out refused to answer. I can only conclude that my suspicions are correct, as j will not refute this claim.

Everybody here is pitching something. Are you surprised that someone who believes in a particular religious concept is trying to find willing adherents? We have a fair number of atheists here who are trying to teach us the benefits of denying there is a God and that the only moral principle is what is commonly accepted today. We have gold sellers, silver sellers, end of the world sellers, anti-jew sellers, pro-Russian sellers, muslim sellers, new age religion sellers, prepper sellers, etc. I am in a few of those. So what?

I don't think anyone who comes into this forum should be spoken to like I wouldn't even talk to a skank whore on a filthy street corner. Even a whore is a person who has a soul in need of love. And we pride ourselves in our freedoms. Are we really free when we are afraid to combat beliefs and religious nuts in decent language? I am certain many of you think I am a nut. Yes. I am. And when I look at the ways of this world, I am glad not to be a commoner of this world.


Blink- I can appreciate frustration with an uncooperative "evangelist". She may just not know how to answer questions or chose not to... I just don't know. But all you have to do is ignore her if this is not your bag. Why should anyone lower themselves to become ghetto scum in hopes of dissuading someone they think is a troll? J has been nothing but cordial in all the posts I read.

I would love her as much as I would love you and hope that all come to a knowledge of the truth. We are soon to enter some very desperate days. There is no time for this small-minded stuff. Time is too short.

[zap]

Go back to her first Posts, she started out spamming...... to tell us all how great Romney was, that is how it began then it was vote for Romney because he IS a Mormon.

I really don't care what God you worship, Budda, God, Jehovah ................but please don't tell me because you are religious/bible thumper that you are better then most.

She won't even talk/respond to questions. She just posts scripture, Doesn't she have a mind of her own?

I would have invited her to the ladies forum but seems to me all she wants to do is Preach about Mormonism?

[Spectrism]

Go back to her first Posts, she started out spamming...... to tell us all how great Romney was, that is how it began then it was vote for Romney because he IS a Mormon.

I really don't care what God you worship, Budda, God, Jehovah ................but please don't tell me because you are religious/bible thumper that you are better then most.

She won't even talk/respond to questions. She just posts scripture, Doesn't she have a mind of her own?

I would have invited her to the ladies forum but seems to me all she wants to do is Preach about Mormonism?


She sounds like a young convert who is excited about what she finds to be good. Do you think she is trying to harm anyone?

You know.... I have a german shepherd that almost got herself killed today. She was inside where I just left her, eating a bowl of her favorite food. It was almost the last meal for this 3 year old girl. Somehow she got out. I was out talking with the neighbor across the street and he looked up in horror pointing toward my driveway as a pickup truck was speeding right toward us. My dog was headed across the street at my neighbor in a full attack speed. She felt safe to an extent because I was across the street. I was able to flag the speeding truck down in half a second and his screeching brakes slowed the dog so that the truck just brushed her face before coming to a stop 50 feet away.

I tell you this story because it shows how an exuberant and unbridled instinct can do more harm than good. I have workked with this dog for many hours yet she still quickly reverts to the aggressive puppy when she thinks she is unleashed. As angry as I was, I saw myself in that dumb dog.... and many people. We do things not knowing the dangers and throw all cautions to the wind. Sometimes we will listen to a panicked friend or neighbor yelling to stop. Sometimes we will take caution when we hear the screeching tires rip past us. But sadly, we sometimes ignore everything and rush headlong into the path of disaster.

If your neighbor is antagonizing you, just sit back and watch... or ignore. There is no harm in that.

[Horn]

reverts to the aggressive puppy when she thinks she is unleashed.

Her leash was longer than usual, as is the case with Janadele.?

[zap]

I'm sure Janadale will be gone as soon as the elections are over since she is just here to troll us about Romney and preach to us about Mormons.

I don't think she has any interest in prepping, gold / silver the economy , or just being human.

[Spectrism]

I'm sure Janadale will be gone as soon as the elections are over since she is just here to troll us about Romney and preach to us about Mormons.

I don't think she has any interest in prepping, gold / silver the economy , or just being human.

You may be right. Or, maybe she is learning some good lessons. Has anyone given her a chance to look at things a little differently? It takes time for certain things to get worked out in our minds. I am one who has to chew on ideas from every conceivable angle.... and even then I will go back and try to work it from another.

There are some good posters on this forum and there are hundreds more who would come here to contribute if the atmosphere is right. What is our goal? To become an inbred batch of non-thinkers? There are threads that I don't post in... here and elsewhere. Sometimes its because I agree and all that I know to say has already been said. At other times it is because I disagree and don't see an accepting atmosphere willing to hear another point of view.

[Rubberchicken]

If this thread makes it 100 pages I'll convert.

[Spectrism]

If this thread makes it 100 pages I'll convert.

Convert to what? If you will be giving out silver coins I will keep on writing.

[Horn]

At other times it is because I disagree and don't see an accepting atmosphere willing to hear another point of view.

Or your argument isn't a good enough one.

Just admit it, Ted.

[Janadele]

;):)


If this thread makes it 100 pages I'll convert.

[Spectrism]

Or your argument isn't a good enough one.

Just admit it, Ted.

Don't call me Ted Surely. My arguments are almost always good enough for me. Surely you are not looking for an argument from me?

[Horn]

Surely you are not looking for an argument from me?

I'm only here for the underwear.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBVOYkhNb1o

[zap]

;):)


See, she won't talk? Its weird, maybe she isn't human.................. maybe a bot of some kind?

[slowbell]

At other times it is because I disagree and don't see an accepting atmosphere willing to hear another point of view.

Spectrism, I'm glad you are back posting, and I agree with this statement. I've posted about the "group think" atmosphere here as well. We are all individuals. As individuals, we all have our own life experiences, and opinions...and collectively, we help build this forum to what it is.

You take that away, you have nothing. Just a bunch of folks, patting each other on the back, saying "I agree..."

We should be sure to encourage folks, to post, freely, even if we don't agree with them. I think this forum is too hard on Janadele too. I keep out of the religious threads, but lot's of harsh words towards her, yet she responds without insults. I recall asking her a straight up question, on mormonism, and she answered my question directly. That goes a long way with me, same as looking folks in the eye when talking to them. We shouldn't be so hard on her, even if folks don't agree. My two bits.

[freespirit]

Spectrism, I'm glad you are back posting, and I agree with this statement. I've posted about the "group think" atmosphere here as well. We are all individuals. As individuals, we all have our own life experiences, and opinions...and collectively, we help build this forum to what it is.

You take that away, you have nothing. Just a bunch of folks, patting each other on the back, saying "I agree..."

We should be sure to encourage folks, to post, freely, even if we don't agree with them. I think this forum is too hard on Janadele too. I keep out of the religious threads, but lot's of harsh words towards her, yet she responds without insults. I recall asking her a straight up question, on mormonism, and she answered my question directly. That goes a long way with me, same as looking folks in the eye when talking to them. We shouldn't be so hard on her, even if folks don't agree. My two bits.

Yeah, well maybe YOU can ask her the direct questions I did. Seems like she'll answer you.

[slowbell]

Yeah, well maybe YOU can ask her the direct questions I did. Seems like she'll answer you.

I asked her one question, and she answered it. I was curious if polygamy was a selling point to convert folks to become mormon. This thread has 74 pages, heck I've read maybe 2. WTF do I know.

Carry on folks, and God speed.

[freespirit]

I asked her one question, and she answered it. I was curious if polygamy was a selling point to convert folks to become mormon. This thread has 74 pages, heck I've read maybe 2. WTF do I know.

Carry on folks, and God speed.

I asked her if she was here to convert forum members to lds. Direct, on topic and thread related, and as yet unanswered. If she won't show enough respect to answer a simple yes or no question, then I have no respect for her.

[Horn]

I think she's Dr. Franz Von Pali.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi5D03-KARM&playnext=1&list=PL6ADD537B4A38FDE2&feature=re sults_main

[osoab]

I asked her one question, and she answered it. I was curious if polygamy was a selling point to convert folks to become mormon. This thread has 74 pages, heck I've read maybe 2. WTF do I know.

Carry on folks, and God speed.

Change your page settings. I am only seeing 19 pages and this is post #736.

[Horn]

Change your page settings. I am only seeing 19 pages and this is post #736.

Can't you tell I killed this thread with my sledgehammer?

Why are you now stealing my post #, leech?

[k-os]

Zap- I know you mean well, but I don't see J as being the issue. Maybe I am wrong- that is possible. But, if someone acts like a light, they are not at fault when we see the roaches running around the place. Something else brought in the roaches.

What is she dividing? Really consider what sides there are here and who is being divided.

I gotta say, Janadele has done more to unite us than to divide us. (It's been said before, but it's true.) With the exception of a few recent posters to this thread, the infighting on GSUS has been kept to a minimum since her arrival.

This is how I feel about controversy (any controversy that arises here) - When you are faced with opposing viewpoints and beliefs, you will either solidify your stance, or (begin to) change your mind. Free-thinking individuals (which most of us are) will either reconsider their thoughts, or stand firmly with their beliefs.

My issues with Janadele are:
1) her timing (pre-election propaganda)
2) insulting the member base
3) continuous copy and paste
4) lack of participation in anything other than Mitt and Mormon threads (evidence for #1)
5) dodging of questions in her her thread with an offer to answer those "with genuine interest in obtaining a true answer to a sincere question they may have"

Because of the issues listed above, I am suspicious of her intentions, therefore I don't put much value into what she has (usually) copied and pasted. If she is a real (non-paid) human being, I feel sorry for her having spent so much time and energy here. If she is either part bot, or paid to be here, she may have convinced a couple of voters. (Maybe?)

Off Topic Post Script - I know the proper way to write it is: "When one is faced with opposing viewpoints and beliefs, one will either solidify one's stance, or (begin to) change one's mind." But I just don't talk that way, and I like to type how I talk. I just had to say that. :)

Off Topic Post Post Script - I may not have used my apostrophes correctly in my Off Topic Post Script either, but I don't care. I wrote this in case anyone else does.
\uu\

[k-os]

Has anyone given her a chance to look at things a little differently? It takes time for certain things to get worked out in our minds. I am one who has to chew on ideas from every conceivable angle.... and even then I will go back and try to work it from another.



Excellent point. I've had to chew on a few things here for a long while before I could grasp it. Now I don't feel so bad for picking on you. :)

[undgrd]

What I have to contribute to this forum is desperately needed.


Like Kos, I'm sorry to pull your post Spec...you're not the only one but, this is what I think people are talking about.

There seems to be this unjustified air of superiority.



The "I'm here to save these poor lost fools" attitude that is shit. It isn't warranted or deserved. Why does it seem the religious folks on this site have not a humble bone in their body? When it comes to religion, there isn't one inch to be moved by most of the religious here.


I don't understand.

[Janadele]

Mere mortals cannot understand eternal matters while they allow worldly voices to block out the whisperings of the Spirit.

Each of us have great knowledge from our pre mortal existence, but it is blocked from us in order that we can be tested.

If we are attuned to our own Spirit, and allow Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost to guide and direct us, then we recognise and have a sure knowledge of eternal truths.

A true Christian does have the answers that others search for. That is the indisputable fact.


Like Kos, I'm sorry to pull your post Spec...you're not the only one but, this is what I think people are talking about.

There seems to be this unjustified air of superiority.

The "I'm here to save these poor lost fools" attitude. It isn't warranted or deserved. Why does it seem the religious folks on this site have not a humble bone in their body? When it comes to religion, there isn't one inch to be moved by most of the religious here.

I don't understand.

[Spectrism]

Like Kos, I'm sorry to pull your post Spec...you're not the only one but, this is what I think people are talking about.

There seems to be this unjustified air of superiority.

The "I'm here to save these poor lost fools" attitude that is shit. It isn't warranted or deserved. Why does it seem the religious folks on this site have not a humble bone in their body? When it comes to religion, there isn't one inch to be moved by most of the religious here.

I don't understand.

Yeah- I can see how you would feel that way. As a teen I knew everything. In my 20's I knew almost everything. In my thirties I knew half as much. I have gotten to the point that I don't know very much. But what I do know is getting more golden with time. I have found some super-refined treasures. Not from anything superior about me. I have heard it said simply like this: I am just one beggar telling others where he found good bread to eat.

Pride in self starts early. The internet has made this a chronic problem. Youngsters talk arrogantly to those more experienced with real life. There are some events coming up that will absolutely devastate the people who rely on fantasy worlds.

There is a major war on the horizon and this coming war will be an amplification of all such wars that have gone before. Deception will precede destruction. We have been feeling the strangeness for some time now. It will become physical soon. As much as people prep, most will be defenseless against this attack.

But to your point, if I am bragging about something I have and you cannot, then that would be tragic. I do have something to brag about and it is not in my performance or capability. And what I have to offer this forum is the direction to good food, shelter and true peace. Those who will have it are welcome. Those who prefer to scoff may remain outside. You have the power and the responsibility to judge and choose.

[Spectrism]

Mere mortals cannot understand eternal matters while they allow worldly voices to block out the whisperings of the Spirit.

Each of us have great knowledge from our pre mortal existence, but it is blocked from us in order that we can be tested.

If we are attuned to our own Spirit, and allow Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost to guide and direct us, then we recognise and have a sure knowledge of eternal truths.

A true Christian does have the answers that others search for. That is the indisputable fact.

I had an issue with your first line and the underlined portion makes that better.

BUT- we have no "pre-mortal" existence. There is a thought that all souls were made into the creation of Adam and in a sense that can be figured. But I don't believe this bears up to scripture or reality. At conception each of us as souls was procreated.

We were not made to be tested. There are tests that we go through but our purpose was to fellowship with the Creator. In a sense, the ability to choose to reject the will of God is a test, but it is not the purpose of our free will.

Our own spirits were killed before we were born. In Adam and Eve, the spirit was killed when they sinned. They had no spirit nature to pass on to their children. This is why we are able to be possessed by demons and how we provide a residence to the Holy Spirit when we surrender to the true God.

[Janadele]

Yes there are differences in our beliefs Spectrism. But we agree that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Saviour :)

Are you affiliated with a specific denomination?

[Spectrism]

Yes there are differences in our beliefs Spectrism. But we agree that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Saviour :)

Are you affiliated with a specific denomination?

No, I am not. I hate denominations and religions. There is salvation in Yashuah as you have said.... and not in human ways.

[Horn]

No, I am not. I hate denominations and religions.

Feel the power of the darkside's underwear.

http://antyproana.blox.pl/2009/02/Power-of-the-sect.html

[Skirnir_]

No, I am not. I hate denominations and religions. There is salvation in Yashuah as you have said.... and not in human ways.

I see your imaginary friend is (a concoction of) a jew.

[Gaillo]

Moved spectrism and Gaillo discussion on Atheism to new thread:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63541-Atheism-Discussion-from-LDS-Thread

[Janadele]

The age of accountability is eight years old. From then we are judged on our choices and actions.

Judgement is fair... circumstances and knowledge are taken into account, as is genuine repentence. Even after mortal death we have the chance to repent and progress, but it is more difficult then than while in mortality.

There are three levels of salvation, and within each, other levels. Even the lowest is superior to mortality.

Lucifer and his like, such as Stalin and Hitler will be cast to outer darkness where they regress back to the intelligence from which they began.

The rest of our Heavenly Father's Spirit children progress further in the eternities at the different levels to which they have been assigned as a consequence of their choices and actions.