new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

[Libertytree]

Listening to the radio news last night it was mentioned that the school might be torn down soon.

[midnight rambler]

Listening to the radio news last night it was mentioned that the school might be torn down soon.

Reminds me of the quick demo and SEALED BURIAL of the Murrah building in OKC.

[PatColo]

this should be good. Mike Harris is the guy who made a splash on PressTV saying djooz did sandy hook.

JB Campbell is:
Thread: podcast w J.B. Campbell- militia movement founder (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60751-podcast-w-J-B-Campbell-militia-movement-founder)
Duff is a freak AFAIC.

1hr 15 mins comm free:

Short End of the Stick with Mike Harris 2012.20.18 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/12/short-end-of-stick-with-mike-harris.html)

http://republicbroadcasting.org/mike.harris.jpg (http://republicbroadcasting.org/mike.harris.jpg)
Today's guest were Gordon Duff (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff/)and JB Campbell (http://www.jbcampbellextremismonline.com/), the topics varied from the Sandy Hook Massacre and Israeli death squads, to the coming gun grab and the war on the American people by Bolsheviks. To how to solve the jewish problem.

E-Mail Address (theshortend@yahoo.com)

Archive (http://www.renseradioarchives.com/harris/)



Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/5zho0n6wkf/mike_harris_gordan_duffewicz_jb_campbell_2012.12.2 0.mp3)

[Hatha Sunahara]

Here's Morris in London on this event:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30AFIidDzVE

There's no shortage of people in the world who are able to see through this agenda. Check out the comments on the YT page.

Hatha

[midnight rambler]

Here's Morris in London on this event:


Hatha

Morris plays up the supposed 'LIBOR connection' despite NO ONE being able to substantiate it, and for me that impeaches his credibility.

[sunshine05]

Morris plays up the supposed 'LIBOR connection' despite NO ONE being able to substantiate it, and for me that impeaches his credibility.

There was a pop-up in that part of the video that states that he mistakenly fell for that initially but now knows that he shouldn't have (something like that).

[JDRock]

Reminds me of the quick demo and SEALED BURIAL of the Murrah building in OKC.
AND the wtc 1,2 &7..as well as waco....predictable.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Is there a pattern common to all these psy-ops? Half the people believe the 'official story' and the other half see right through it. These things keep the world pretty well divided, don't they? Divide and conquer. While we're all arguing about it, Feinstein slips in a piece of legislation that nobody in the congress will read, but will vote for it. Sorta like the Patriot Act after 911. Deeper and deeper down the hole we go. Who's doing this to us? And how do we make it stop? Certainly it's the media. But they get their orders from somewhere. Ditto for all the government agencies involved. I'd bet there is a 'psy-op central' somewhere that manages all these events. Probably a handful of people who plan, organize, staff, co-ordinate, and control all these activities--world wide. It wouldn't be hard to stop it if we knew who is really doing this.


Hatha

[midnight rambler]

Who's doing this to us?

The Lucifer (Satan) worshiping Death Cult.


And how do we make it stop?

Cleanly and thoroughly cut them out of your life like the mastizing tumor they are.

We're in a spiritual battle.


For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

[palani]

https://webmail.netins.net/Redirect/www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Two-wounded-in-theater-shooting-4122668.php

On Sunday, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend.
After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It's like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant!
Now aren't you wondering why this isn't a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting? There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone.
So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media is treating it like it never happened.
Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week. Just thought you'd like to know.

[Horn]

It wouldn't be hard to stop it if we knew who is really doing this.


Hatha

Without a Top where would there be room for a bottom?

It (tumor) must be infiltrated by those cells closest to it then processed to the trash, a normal procedure in a healthily operating body.

[Horn]

https://webmail.netins.net/Redirect/www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Two-wounded-in-theater-shooting-4122668.php

On Sunday, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend.
After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It's like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant!
Now aren't you wondering why this isn't a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting? There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone.
So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media is treating it like it never happened.
Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week. Just thought you'd like to know.

Here in C.R. San Jose there is an armed or unarmed "private" guard about every 200 meters.



According to Infoplease (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004902.html) the following murder and rape rates per 100,000 inhabitants was taken from U.S. FBI, Crime in the United States annual.


Los Angeles - Murder 12.6 and rape 28.5
Chicago - Murder 15.6 and rape
Houston - Murder 16.3 and rape 42.6
Philadelphia - Murder 25.6 and rape 69.5
Phoenix - Murder 15 and rape 36.4
Dallas - Murder 16.4 and rape 45.7
Las Vegas - Murder 11.3 and rape 48.1
Detroit - Murder 41.4 and rape 65.5
Indianapolis - Murder 13.5 and rape 65.8
Jacksonville - Murder 11.4 and rape 23.8
San Francisco - Murder 12.8 and rape 23
Columbus - Murder 14.1 and rape 76.3
Memphis - Murder 20.3 and rape 59.1
Baltimore - Murder 42 and rape 25.3
Milwaukee - Murder 20.6 and rape 26.9
Kansas City - Murder 28.1 and rape 65.9
Cleveland - Murder 24 and rape 106.3
Atlanta - Murder 20.9 and rape 51.8
Miami - Murder 13.9 and rape 16
Tulsa - Murder 15 and rape 78.4
Minneapolis - Murder 12.5 and rape 106.8
St. Louis - Murder 37.9 and rape 79.8
Cincinnati - Murder 25.1 and rape 104.7
Buffalo - Murder 19.8 and rape 65
Stockton - Murder 14.6 and rape 38.7
Newark - Murder 34.5 and rape 29.5
Mobile - Murder 14 and rape 29.6
San Jose, Costa Rica - Murder 6.6 (According to Janes.com (http://www.janes.com/news/security/countryrisk/jid/jid080501_1_n.shtml) or 7.3 according to the OIJ (http://www.welovecostarica.com/members/775.cfm)) - Specific rape data for the city could not be found.

[Glass]

I've nearly convinced myself that it's a body lying infront of the vehicle.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/glassgold/sandy/sandy-hook_closer_zps493e9198.jpg

[sunshine05]

Is there a pattern common to all these psy-ops? Half the people believe the 'official story' and the other half see right through it. These things keep the world pretty well divided, don't they? Divide and conquer. While we're all arguing about it, Feinstein slips in a piece of legislation that nobody in the congress will read, but will vote for it. Sorta like the Patriot Act after 911. Deeper and deeper down the hole we go. Who's doing this to us? And how do we make it stop? Certainly it's the media. But they get their orders from somewhere. Ditto for all the government agencies involved. I'd bet there is a 'psy-op central' somewhere that manages all these events. Probably a handful of people who plan, organize, staff, co-ordinate, and control all these activities--world wide. It wouldn't be hard to stop it if we knew who is really doing this.


Hatha

I think it's the central bankers and those who participate in the CFR and Bilderberg meetings.

[sunshine05]

I've nearly convinced myself that it's a body lying infront of the vehicle.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/glassgold/sandy/sandy-hook_closer_zps493e9198.jpg


There isn't any blood though. Another thing I just noticed is the blue chair in the upper corner. That's rather odd!

[sunshine05]

The chair is in this photo.

http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Newtown-2.jpghttp://tribwpmt.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/sandy-hook.jpg?w=900[/QUOTE]

[sunshine05]

I have always wondered why they do drills on the same day too. Why? Do they use the images from the drill for this event? Do they possibly use the dispatch audio?

[Glass]

i think the chair is cut off by the angle. I think the chair is odd.

as to blood, not necessarily. blood could pool underneath. what are the temperatures like there? Are people coated up or is it warm there?

[sunshine05]

Interesting article about how easy it is to make computer generated images of people. It would be so easy to do this for the kids' photos.

http://www.businessinsider.com/photo-realism-computer-generated-people?op=1

[midnight rambler]

Considering the likelihood of 'body snatching' some airline passengers on 9/11/01 I wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities of 'body snatching' 20 children and a few adults - considering we have such little evidence to draw reasonable conclusions from.

[Cebu_4_2]

Would have been around freezing.

[Cebu_4_2]

Considering the likelihood of 'body snatching' some airline passengers on 9/11/01 I wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities of 'body snatching' 20 children and a few adults - considering we have such little evidence to draw reasonable conclusions from.

Pretty much what I mentioned a few pages back, organ donors since Israehell is into that sort of stuff. Medical records online, pick and choose the type they need and snatch em up. Not too far fetched IMO.

[sunshine05]

Considering the likelihood of 'body snatching' some airline passengers on 9/11/01 I wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities of 'body snatching' 20 children and a few adults - considering we have such little evidence to draw reasonable conclusions from.


Yes, but then why so many parent actors? That's why I don't think they are real.

One thing I've thought about is the principal. The original script must have had her as a survivor but maybe she decided not to go along with this. As well, the original script had Nancy Lanza as a kindergarten teacher and they later changed that. There must be a reason for both of these things.

[Hatha Sunahara]

I think it's the central bankers and those who participate in the CFR and Bilderberg meetings.

These people are who we normally refer to as TPTB. They have the power and the money, so they get what they want. They have set up some sort of organization that is no doubt highly compartmentalized. One of those compartments is the Psy-Op function. This function would itself be compartmentalized into groups that formulate strategies, and develop programs and plans and even schedules for when to carry out certain events depending on many factors. This group would likely have no specific knowledge of how any of their plans or programs would be carried out. There would be another specialized and compartmentalized group that would be given portions of such plans and schedules (without any knowledge of who developed them) whose job would be to carry out those portions of the plans. This would be the group that recruits patsies, and arranges for the actual shooters, and cleans up after themselves by disposing of evidence and witnesses, as well as the patsies and anyone who could make the truth be known. And there would be another compartmentalized group responsible for 'public relations'. This would be a group that recruits actors, controls the media coverage, and writes the scripts for everyone given exposure by the media. A scheme like this would require unlimited amounts of money, and skill at extortion, and blackmail and the manipulation of loyalties. The secrecy would come from the compartmentalization of the activities. People in various different compartments would have no knowledge of how the whole operation is organized, nor about any other compartments. They would know that if they revealed anything about who recruited them, they would disappear. They would be paid very well for their 'services'. Anyone who has read any of Victor Ostrovsky's books--By Way of Deception, or The Other Side of Deception would have an idea of how the Mossad has recruited a worldwide network of 'sayanim' who participate in various different operations, but really know nothing about the overall plan.

There is a handful of people who know about all the various compartments and manage (plan, organize, staff, coordinate, control) them to get results. This group needs to be discovered. Probably not more than a dozen people. It is likely that the inner circles of TPTB would know who this group is. It is likely that they would have hundreds or even thousands of people they could trust to fill in any of these jobs if the current holders are compromised or gone.

It may not be so easy to dissolve the conspiracy that is doing this. If I remember correctly, the British uncovered a group in India around 1812 called the Thuggees who murdered and robbed people and made them disappear. They had been doing it for at least two centuries. They sent a Major General William Henry Sleeman to find these thuggees and to get rid of them. Sleeman found a large group of families participating in this, and the way he was able to extinguish them was to execute or imprison all the males of these families older than six years of age, so that they would not pass on their evil knowledge to their progeny to perpetuate their practices. This extinction took a whole generation. I doubt that the motives of TPTB are any more honorable than those of the Thuggees, but it is on a different scale because these people control the world's money.

Anyway, there is my $.02 worth of comment on who and what is pulling off all these murder/mystery/media dramas in front of our eyes today.


Hatha

[Son-of-Liberty]

The chair is in this photo.

http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Newtown-2.jpghttp://tribwpmt.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/sandy-hook.jpg?w=900[/QUOTE]

The straight down picture appears to be altered. The black splotches are too black and uniform and the edges too smooth to be equipment or even a black cloth placed over something they would want to hide. To me it looks like someone went in Photoshop and painted over what they were trying to hide with black and then blended or softened the edges slightly. There is no texture they appear completely flat. Compare that to the black car and you'll see what I mean.

The side angle shot could be equipment or bodies but whatever it is it certainly doesn't match the overhead photo.

[freespirit]

one thought that keeps nagging me with these photos...

if it is loose/extra equipment, what the hell is it doing right next to suspect's car inside the "crime scene" perimeter??!
that is blatant contamination of a crime scene, is it not?
Grisholm would be flippin' his wig if he was the CSI on this one...

[midnight rambler]

The thought occurs - Nancy Lanza had spent Tuesday and Wednesday night out of town, not returning home until Thursday evening reportedly getting back home around 5:30 PM - WHY didn't Adam Lanza commit the shooting while his mother was out of town?? ??? WHY did he wait for her to return so he could (allegedly) kill her before his (alleged) massacre?? ??? He could have chosen to spare killing the one living soul who loved him more than anyone else did, unconditionally, yet he (allegedly) waited for her to return so he could kill her too.

My theory: Adam didn't kill his mother, Nancy was a potential witness who would have undermined 'the official narrative' and therefore she had to be eliminated.

Nancy Lanza (just like everyone else who takes responsibility for themselves) should have had a good dog or two to alert her to intruders in her house.

[Tumbleweed]

The straight down picture appears to be altered. The black splotches are too black and uniform and the edges too smooth to be equipment or even a black cloth placed over something they would want to hide. To me it looks like someone went in Photoshop and painted over what they were trying to hide with black and then blended or softened the edges slightly. There is no texture they appear completely flat. Compare that to the black car and you'll see what I mean.

The side angle shot could be equipment or bodies but whatever it is it certainly doesn't match the overhead photo.[/QUOTE]




I looked at those things and have wondered what they are too. They do sort of look like soft rifle cases that may have been unzipped, a rifle removed then left laying on the pavement.

[Glass]

i think the images are altered as well. I went to getty images where you can search for images on this story. There are several other images of that scene taken from the air which also show the blacked out areas. Still doesn't look right but it isn't any clearer.

[Hatha Sunahara]

The thought occurs - Nancy Lanza had spent Tuesday and Wednesday night out of town, not returning home until Thursday evening reportedly getting back home around 5:30 PM - WHY didn't Adam Lanza commit the shooting while his mother was out of town?? ??? WHY did he wait for her to return so he could (allegedly) kill her before his (alleged) massacre?? ??? He could have chosen to spare killing the one living soul who loved him more than anyone else did, unconditionally, yet he (allegedly) waited for her to return so he could kill her too.

My theory: Adam didn't kill his mother, Nancy was a potential witness who would have undermined 'the official narrative' and therefore she had to be eliminated.

Nancy Lanza (just like everyone else who takes responsibility for themselves) should have had a good dog or two to alert her to intruders in her house.

I'd go a few steps beyond this speculation. Adam Lanza is a patsy (just like Lee Harvey Oswald and James Earl Ray). If he really is dead, he may have been killed along with his mother, and his body taken to the school and dumped there by the real killers (if there are any real killers), or he may have been manipulated into going to the school and killed there by the real shooters. No one has seen any photographs of any bodies--not the mother nor of the patsy. Nor any children, or school personnel. We have no way of telling if anything in this story is true. It could all be as real as the tears Obama shed in his press conference. Nobody is in custody (maybe Adam Lanza's brother is). Nobody was arrested or charged with anything. The Connecticut PR Trooper with the official cop hat tells everyone nothing is true unless it comes from him. So, this is truth by authority, not by facts or reason or evidence. Disbelief is a confrontation with authority, and subject to varying degrees of marginalization and official ostracism, if not excommunication or burning at the stake.

How hard do they have to work, how many resources must they call up to uphold a lie? Ultimately the truth is what you believe. If nobody believes it, it's not true. And really, in this instance, does it matter what is true? If you know (by your own reasoning) that they are lying, the emphasis shifts away from the 'truth' to 'why are they lying'? The answer there is obvious. It's their gun control agenda, and that is not flying. They have managed to trigger (no pun intended) a stampede to the gun dealers by people wanting to buy more guns. The only thing that could have succeeded for the people who put on this show was to divide the public and cause conflict between those who support the second amendment and those who would give it up for 'safety'. The next drama will be the legislation to ban guns--by a legislature that represents the people who bought the legislators, not the people who voted for them.

One thing that happens in all evil totalitarian regimes is that everyone if forced to choose between obeying their conscience or obeying authority that violates their conscience. You will be forced to choose between the courage of your convictions or going along with the evil. Silence is a choice you make to go along with the evil. The evil will only go away if everybody recognizes it, calls it out, and shoots back at it if necessary. It's not omnipotent. It's only real weapon is fear. Having the right to own guns is only the means for confronting a government gone evil. The other half is having a population that has courage to call out that evil government. If only 10% have that courage and are armed to the teeth, the evil government is powerless and will disappear.


Hatha

[midnight rambler]

If only 10% have that courage and are armed to the teeth, the evil government is powerless and will disappear.


Hatha

Yeah, but it can certainly make a helluva mess in its death throes.

[midnight rambler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeLvBlDZKuQ

[Neuro]

The straight down picture appears to be altered. The black splotches are too black and uniform and the edges too smooth to be equipment or even a black cloth placed over something they would want to hide. To me it looks like someone went in Photoshop and painted over what they were trying to hide with black and then blended or softened the edges slightly. There is no texture they appear completely flat. Compare that to the black car and you'll see what I mean.

The side angle shot could be equipment or bodies but whatever it is it certainly doesn't match the overhead photo.




I looked at those things and have wondered what they are too. They do sort of look like soft rifle cases that may have been unzipped, a rifle removed then left laying on the pavement.[/QUOTE]
Maybe the guns they took from Nancy Lanza's house?

[midnight rambler]

Maybe the guns they took from Nancy Lanza's house?

The one or two* long guns taken from the trunk of the car were not in soft case cases.

*someone has done a good analysis of the video and concluded that there were likely two guns taken from the trunk of the car - one thing I do recall: within a day or two there was a very credible report of a shotgun being taken from the trunk and what the talking head was saying was that it was a 'high capacity' shotgun that could have done a lot more damage (nothing heard about that since then, apparently would cause discontinuity of the 'official narrative' "coming from these microphones" - and from my observation of the video it looks like one of the guns taken from the trunk was indeed a semi-auto shotgun

[joboo]

I didn't bother reading much of this thread.

Did anyone point out how easy it would have been to know what was used by simply looking at the head stamps on the spent brass?

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Interesting info here:

http://www.truthin7minutes.com/school-shootings

[Horn]

Interesting info here:

http://www.truthin7minutes.com/school-shootings

Recent photo of another distraught cartoon character.

4244

http://forward.com/articles/168277/noah-pozners-family-remembers-and-mourns/?p=all

[Tumbleweed]

I have a rifle in a soft case leaning against a wall and it looks very similar to the two black splotches by that car. My guess is the two shooters got out of the car and pulled their rifles out with them. the driver unzipped and pulled his rifle out and left the case by the right front fender. The passenger did the same on the passenger side and left his case laying there. I believe in an interview with Gordon Duff by Jeff Rense Duff says the russians had a satelite camera focused on the school and three people entered the school. The two shooters probably herded Lanza into the school and shot him then continued their shooting spree. I have no idea what they might have done with their rifles when they were trying to get away after the shooting and were caught.

That's what would make sense to me but in this case I believe the shooters screwed things all up and the government false flag planners are having a hell of a time trying to make up a believable story because of all the screw ups. SOB's

[Libertytree]

I have a rifle in a soft case leaning against a wall and it looks very similar to the two black splotches by that car. My guess is the two shooters got out of the car and pulled their rifles out with them. the driver unzipped and pulled his rifle out and left the case by the right front fender. The passenger did the same on the passenger side and left his case laying there. I believe in an interview with Gordon Duff by Jeff Rense Duff says the russians had a satelite camera focused on the school and three people entered the school. The two shooters probably herded Lanza into the school and shot him then continued their shooting spree. I have no idea what they might have done with their rifles when they were trying to get away after the shooting and were caught.

That's what would make sense to me but in this case I believe the shooters screwed things all up and the government false flag planners are having a hell of a time trying to make up a believable story because of all the screw ups. SOB's

Did they have any reasoning why the Russians would have a satellite aimed at the school?

[joboo]

Recent photo of another distraught cartoon character.

4244

http://forward.com/articles/168277/noah-pozners-family-remembers-and-mourns/?p=all

War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
Money is debt
Happy is sad

More people mourning from hearing the news. They are really completely miserable, but just took some SSRI's
http://www.bhssolutions.com/Portals/0/corporate%20group%20laughing.jpg

[Horn]

War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
Money is debt
Happy is sad

More people mourning from hearing the news. They are really completely miserable, but just took some SSRI's


They're so integrated they could only be models for society.

Which of course falls miserably short when put into real world field testing.

The only thing that is taught is how to apply tooth whitener without getting any on the gum tissue.

[Tumbleweed]

Did they have any reasoning why the Russians would have a satellite aimed at the school?

I'm not for sure who the interviewer was of Duff but they both wondered that question too. I believe that information had come to Duff through one of his military contacts. I suspect the russians have spys who know what the false flaggers are up to.

[Santa]

At the center of everything is Veronique. On her right wrist is a tattoo she and Danielle both got the day after Noah died: a small pink rose flanked by two angel wings with Noah’s name spanning the space between them, and his birth and death dates beneath. A torn black ribbon is pinned to her shirt, a Jewish mourning custom. She is wearing purplish pink lipstick and her short black hair is combed into puffy curls around her face.

“I hope it doesn’t look callous to some people, but I have to keep taking care of myself physically,” she says, “That is what Noah would want. He would want his mom to be the way she always is.”

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/168277/noah-pozners-family-remembers-and-mourns/?p=all#ixzz2Gf8YMesZ


Wow! One day after their little boy is massacred, this couple head out to a tattoo parlor for matching tattoo's. WTF????

[Glass]

Wow! One day after their little boy is massacred, this couple head out to a tattoo parlor for matching tattoo's. WTF????

maybe she is someone who is prone to cutting to release emotional stress.

[Horn]

Did they have any reasoning why the Russians would have a satellite aimed at the school?

Russian Spy Satellite, no need to focus.

4248

[Agrippa]

Did they have any reasoning why the Russians would have a satellite aimed at the school?

The reason stated was that there was a nearby military asset that they kept their eyes on. I don't recall what it was.

It would be nice if the Russians would show the evidence on RT if it exists.

I like the soft-rifle-cases interpretation of the blobs in the parking lot. It would explain why they felt the need to photoshop most of the aerial photos. Two rifle cases were okay to drop because the plan had Ryan showing up as patsy number two. When that fell through they became embarrassing and had to be edited out.

[osoab]

Why are you using Gordon Duff as a relevant source of info?

[Tumbleweed]

Why are you using Gordon Duff as a relevant source of info?

I seem to recall he said like 40% of what he said is bs so he doesn't get killed. So maybe 60% of the truth is good enough.

[Steal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsTqSVbHMBs

[PatColo]

the desc. of that YT ^ says:

Published on Dec 31, 2012
Here's Part 2: http://youtu.be/iYBDsGLNfNw

Our friend Mark S. Mann is back. He's a cop, he's in Connecticut and we have a LOT of QUESTIONS about the contradictions and inconsistencies of the official story of the Sandy Hook Elementary school massacre - and resulting gun grab. **This is Part 1 of 2.**

[vacuum]

From the comments of the youtube video

Remove all Dual Citizens in Federal/State/Local Gov. Positions. Keep it Illegal for Dual Citizens to Hold Public Office https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-all-dual-citizens-federalstatelocal-gov-positions-keep-it-illegal-dual-citizens-hold-public/sThbn64F

[sunshine05]

"Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy was finally given the list at about 3 p.m., Woodall said.

On it were 26 names (http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/12/us/sandy-hook-victims/index.html); 20 were children.
Charlotte Bacon, 6; Daniel Barden, 7; Olivia Engel, 6; Josephine Gay, 7; Ana Marquez-Greene, 6; Dylan Hockley, 6; Madeleine Hsu, 6; Catherine Hubbard, 6; Chase Kowalski, 7; Jesse Lewis, 6; James Mattioli, 6; Grace McDonnell, 7; Emilie Parker, 6; Jack Pinto, 6; Noah Pozner, 6; Caroline Previdi, 6; Jessica Rekos, 6; Avielle Richman, 6; Benjamin Wheeler, 6; Allison Wyatt, 6."


I'm wondering - if none of the parents were able to see the bodies, HOW did they identify these children by 3PM that day? Remember that the teachers were also shot and killed.

They say the parents were shown pictures, but how? Did they call all the parents in whose kids were missing and pass around photos from the scene? Is your child in the photos? This doesn't make any sense. They should have needed dental records to confirm. Other kids from different classes could have been in the room, certain kids could have fled and based on the reports of multiple shots, wouldn't it have been difficult to identify some of them?

[Hatha Sunahara]

Is it possible that these kids were made of the same stuff as the 19 Arab hijackers of 911? That they are completely fabricated? The stuff of myth? That they never existed in the first place?

If the parents are actors, which seems to be the case, why is this not likely too? That whoever did this fabricated the kids and the teachers out of thin air? Did we see any bodies? Did I not read somewhere that they are going to demolish the school? Now that would be right up there with 911 where all the evidence, every shred of it was disposed of post haste. I wonder if they plan to demolish the school while the people are still in it? Like the WTC towers? This one is another 'national security myth'. Like the one that started WWII- the attack on the Gliewicz radio station on the Polish border with Germany?

Hatha

[PatColo]

this show's starting now, 9 AM pacific:


Tuesday, January 1, 2013 Prof. James Tracy: The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2013/01/prof-james-tracy-sandy-hook-school.html)

http://www.fau.edu/scms/images/faculty/tracy.jpg

Tuesday, Jan. 1st, 11 a.m. to noon Central (9-10 Pacific) on NoLiesRadio.org (http://www.noliesradio.org%20/)(then archived here (http://noliesradio.org/archives/category/archived-shows/kevin-barrett-show) a few hours after broadcast).

James Tracy is an Associate Professor of Media Studies at Florida Atlantic University. His recent article The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information (http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776)has gone viral, suggesting that more and more Americans are waking up to the fact that the "deep state" or "dual state (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2012/11/para-politics-and-dual-state-with.html)" is behind almost all "terrorist attacks," school shootings, and massacres of civilians. If you doubt that, please study the history of Operation Gladio (http://www.amazon.com/NATOs-Secret-Armies-Operation-Contemporary/dp/0714685003), which appears to be alive and well in the USA.
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[sunshine05]

Is it possible that these kids were made of the same stuff as the 19 Arab hijackers of 911? That they are completely fabricated? The stuff of myth? That they never existed in the first place?

If the parents are actors, which seems to be the case, why is this not likely too? That whoever did this fabricated the kids and the teachers out of thin air? Did we see any bodies? Did I not read somewhere that they are going to demolish the school? Now that would be right up there with 911 where all the evidence, every shred of it was disposed of post haste. I wonder if they plan to demolish the school while the people are still in it? Like the WTC towers? This one is another 'national security myth'. Like the one that started WWII- the attack on the Gliewicz radio station on the Polish border with Germany?

Hatha

Yes, that's exactly what I believe to be the case. I don't believe anyone died. I think the entire thing was staged.

I like to highlight issues with the official story, like the one above. There is no reasonable explanation for how these kids were all identified by 3PM and not only that, they had that flag poster made with all the names pinned to it that very day. Who made that? There was a similar flag poster in the school. Are we to believe one of the survivors worked on that that afternoon?

[Hatha Sunahara]

I would think the the Principal and School Psychologist who were killed at Sandy Hook went to the same place that Barbara Olson went on 9-11-01. Anybody remember Barbara Olson? Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Olson

Her Husband was Solicitor General Ted Olson, who lied about getting cell phone calls from her from the plane. I bet she's in Israel now. She got her law degree from Yeshiva University.


Hatha

[JohnQPublic]

I would think the the Principal and School Psychologist who were killed at Sandy Hook went to the same place that Barbara Olson went on 9-11-01. Anybody remember Barbara Olson? Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Olson

Her Husband was Solicitor General Olson, who lied about getting cell phone calls from her from the plane. I bet she's in Israel now. She got her law degree from Yeshiva University.


Hatha

I recall that. Her husband was key to the Clinton scandal around Lewinski.

[sunshine05]

This is strange to me. If my child survived an ordeal like this, the last thing I would do would be to send them somewhere to be with the kids and teachers. I mean, this is Christmas break for everyone. The kids don't NEED school administrators. They need to be with their families! Field trips, face painting, really?! This is just ridiculous to me.

NEWTOWN, Conn. -- The children at the Sandy Hook Elementary school won't be returning to classes for another week, but officials from the town, school district and local agencies are doing their best in the meantime to keep them occupied following a massacre at their school two weeks ago. The students have not attended school since a gunman killed 20 of their schoolmates and six adults on Dec. 14. They are slated to return to a different school next Thursday.


In the meantime, they've been treated to field trips, toy giveaways and some organized play time. "A couple of the teachers have done pizza parties," said Janet Robinson, Newtown's school superintendent. "Another met her kids at the library so they could have a little reading time together. The most important thing has been connecting the students back to their teacher and their classmates."


The Newtown Youth Academy, a nonprofit sports center, opened its doors to all kids in town at no cost shortly after the shooting. But from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. last week, the building's turf field, basketball and tennis courts, and giant inflatable obstacle course were reserved just for Sandy Hook Elementary students. There have been arts and crafts for the smaller kids, as well as face-paintings. Some celebrities, including two members of the Harlem Globetrotters and former University of Connecticut basketball star Tina Charles, also have stopped by to play with the children. UConn's men's basketball team and its coaches made a trip to the academy Thursday and played games with the kids, posed for photos and signed autographs. "It was great for us to be able to see some smiles on their faces and to spend some time with them," Coach Kevin Ollie said. On Thursday afternoon, school buses were loading up at the Youth Academy for a trip to Stamford and a larger complex, Chelsea Piers, which also has ice rinks and an indoor swimming pool, said academy owner Peter D'Amico. Sports celebrities, such as Brooklyn Nets forward Kris Humphries, planned to meet them there. "The idea was to get them away from the house, the television and all the coverage of this tragedy and get them to a place where kids can just be kids," said D'Amico, a longtime youth coach in town.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/28/newtown-trying-to-give-ki_n_2375628.html

[midnight rambler]

This video shows the two black objects by the Honda sedan, it also has one of the mothers referring to "a masked man' (why does someone who's intent on suicide need to wear a mask?? ???)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqkwbvo3T60

[Glass]

I'm wondering - if none of the parents were able to see the bodies, HOW did they identify these children by 3PM that day? Remember that the teachers were also shot and killed.

They say the parents were shown pictures, but how? Did they call all the parents in whose kids were missing and pass around photos from the scene? Is your child in the photos? This doesn't make any sense. They should have needed dental records to confirm. Other kids from different classes could have been in the room, certain kids could have fled and based on the reports of multiple shots, wouldn't it have been difficult to identify some of them?

It was the LEO that got the pictures. It was the LEO/Medical Examiner who made the identification of the bodies from the pictures of the children. That way no parent was required to ID the bodies.

[midnight rambler]

It was the LEO that got the pictures. It was the LEO/Medical Examiner who made the identification of the bodies from the pictures of the children. That way no parent was required to ID the bodies.

And I'm sure you recall that the ME was bragging on his photographers, saying how they could "control" perceptions through their imagery.

[sunshine05]

It was the LEO that got the pictures. It was the LEO/Medical Examiner who made the identification of the bodies from the pictures of the children. That way no parent was required to ID the bodies.

Right. That was fast work. Who labeled the photos of the children with their names? I'm assuming they used the class photos. I have never heard of someone aside from family or close friends making identifications. The whole thing is just unbelievable, probably because it never happened.

[sunshine05]

http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/the-flag-of-honor/

(http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/the-flag-of-honor/)The “Flag of Honor” (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/the-flag-of-honor/)

Posted on January 1, 2013 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/the-flag-of-honor/) by lynne0312 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/author/lynne0312/)
I noticed that a “flag of honor” was created in memory of the “victims” very early on. I remember seeing photos of it the very day of the alleged shootings. I can’t help but wonder about it. Who took the time to put this together? Initially it had nothing but numbers on it and after the names of the victims were released someone updated it with their names.

http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/7a14c427322e6a89f1ceb35046e2f_h316_w628_m5_cqwuduf ii.jpg?w=640 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/the-flag-of-honor/7a14c427322e6a89f1ceb35046e2f_h316_w628_m5_cqwuduf ii/)

http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/521502_181313695347029_1312914003_n.jpg?w=640 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/the-flag-of-honor/521502_181313695347029_1312914003_n/)

I noticed the small TM next to “Flag of Honor” and did a search and discovered that the Flag of Honor was actually created for 9/11 victims. These can be purchased through flagofhonor.org. Someone happened to have one and pasted “Sandy Hook School 12-14-12″ over the text ” in the terrorist attacks of 9/11″.

http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/flhon600.gif?w=640 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/the-flag-of-honor/flhon600/)
I just find it interesting that following such a horrific tragedy, on that very day that someone took the time to tack numbers to a 9/11 victim flag. Where did the flag even come from? For those of us who believe 9/11 was a false flag to push forward an agenda, it is interesting that the same symbolism is being used in this event.


(http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/the-flag-of-honor/)

[sirgonzo420]

Fascism comes carrying a cross and wrapped in a flag.

[Santa]

Sunshine05.... your observations are just awesome. Thank you.

[sunshine05]

The school superintendent has been quite vocal about this tragedy. It appears that her contract isn't being renewed. This is her last year as superintendent. Not that it means a lot but maybe she was paid off to go along with the official story.

http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Newtown-superintendent-s-contract-won-t-be-3682625.php

[willie pete]

The school superintendent has been quite vocal about this tragedy. It appears that her contract isn't being renewed. This is her last year as superintendent. Not that it means a lot but maybe she was paid off to go along with the official story.

http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Newtown-superintendent-s-contract-won-t-be-3682625.php

looks like from the posted story, the board voted/decided back in June of this year to remove her

[JDRock]

Fascism comes carrying a cross and wrapped in a flag.
unwrap fascism and all you see is a yarmulkah.

[PatColo]

Spingola Speaks 2012.12.31 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/spingola-speaks-20121231.html)

http://www.spingola.com/Deanna%2005.jpg (http://www.spingola.com/Deanna%2005.jpg)
Guest: Art from Philly (http://www.noplaceforcorruption.com/) talks about Finances, Courts, Newtown, and other issues; 31 Interesting Questions about Newtown Shootings; (http://www.spingola.com/31Questions.html) The Experiments: The Assassin; (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA&feature=youtu.be) Robbie Parker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w)

Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)

News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/)

Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)

Join Spingola Speaks Email List (spingolaspeaks-subscribe@yahoogroups.com)


Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/22ub8hq5qt/spingola_speaks_-_art_from_philly_2012.12.31.mp3)

[old steel]

On November 21, 2012 there was a threat alert posted on the dot gov website.

Posted by President Obama himself that the USA and it's people were under threat by insiders or those with inside information.

I posted the link here i think there was another post about it even before mine.

Then in December we got the Sandy Hook attacks.

This was an operation by an Israeli hit team directly informing Obama they can do whatever they want regardless if their man didn't get selected to go to Washington.

Of course you never let a serious crisis go to waste.

We saw how fast they sprang into attack mode like they knew it was coming and were prepared for it.

Gun control sprang out of nowhere to be such a huge issue firearms and ammo were virtually cleaned out of retail outlets.

Then there was the Nancy Lanza survivalist meme being propagated by the media.

Two kinds of gun ranges in Conn. Either those connected to retail stores that sell firearms or private clubs.

Both keep records including video for insurance purposes on who is using the ranges.

Neither Nancy Lanza or her son are on any of these gun range records.

Some gun nut survivalist type, what?

We know who controls the news in this country.












Then there was the brand new state of the art video surveillance system installed with cameras in every entrance/exit every hallway covering every angle every single classroom and office.

Where are the videos?

Whoever entered that school is on video because the power had not been cut yet.

Show us the video.

95 cameras monitoring the outside of the Pentagon.

How many videos have been released?

This entire Sandy Hook operation has been picked apart by average people on the internet realizing nothing adds up by the official account of the events that went down that day.

Very sloppy operation, they get worse as they go on.

Someone with access to the Russian satellite video needs to release it, wake the herd up from their conditioning slumber.

Hopefully get more than a few heads to roll cause if the Russian have video of it wouldn't the USA as well?

[Twisted Titan]

Right. That was fast work. Who labeled the photos of the children with their names? I'm assuming they used the class photos. I have never heard of someone aside from family or close friends making identifications. The whole thing is just unbelievable, probably because it never happened.


It is ALWAYS family or a family APPOINTED represenative for verification how else could you be certain???........... would YOU let a third party person tell you that your baby is dead?

I have never seen a protocol like this with deceased loved ones......until Sandy Hook.



Samething Happened on 911 buildings that were never hit with anything just fire collapse in on themselves.


Whenever a "First time" happens and the Gubbermint is in it........somehow the laws of common sense seem to magically get suspended

[sunshine05]

There were talks of closing one of the 4 elementary schools in Newtown due to low enrollment. They were discussing the potential closing of Head O' Meadow elementary in Oct '12.

http://newtown.patch.com/articles/head-o-meadow-parents-oppose-closing-their-children-s-school

[Bigjon]

Spingola Speaks 2012.12.31 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/spingola-speaks-20121231.html)



http://www.spingola.com/Deanna%2005.jpg (http://www.spingola.com/Deanna%2005.jpg)
Guest: Art from Philly (http://www.noplaceforcorruption.com/) talks about Finances, Courts, Newtown, and other issues; 31 Interesting Questions about Newtown Shootings; (http://www.spingola.com/31Questions.html) The Experiments: The Assassin; (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA&feature=youtu.be) Robbie Parker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w)

Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)

News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/)

Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)

Join Spingola Speaks Email List (spingolaspeaks-subscribe@yahoogroups.com)


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I love listening to Deanna, but was shocked to hear her come out and tell an outright lie about Daryl Bradford Smith.

She said Daryl was on John Friend's program (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-truth-militia/2012/12/24/truth-militia-radio-with-john-friend) and blamed everything on the Jesuits. I had just listened to that show and to my recollection, Daryl never mentioned the Jesuits, he only talked about the Jews.

I will not be as trusting in anything shes says from now on.

[midnight rambler]

THREE shooters at Sandy Hook -

http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/281314.html

[PatColo]

I love listening to Deanna, but was shocked to hear her come out and tell an outright lie about Daryl Bradford Smith.

She said Daryl was on John Friend's program (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-truth-militia/2012/12/24/truth-militia-radio-with-john-friend) and blamed everything on the Jesuits. I had just listened to that show and to my recollection, Daryl never mentioned the Jesuits, he only talked about the Jews.

I will not be as trusting in anything shes says from now on.

without listening to that Friend/DBS show again, I recall there was grumbling that near the end DBS went into some anti-jesuit stuff. I'll re-listen to the last 1/2 hour or so to refresh my memory. Meanwhile you can review the 24 comments @ Friend's blog entry for the show,


Monday, December 24, 2012

Truth Militia Radio with John Friend (http://johnfriendsblog.blogspot.ie/2012/12/truth-militia-radio-with-john-friend_24.html)




http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Bj-BhFFGTfY/UNiKVPHi-4I/AAAAAAAAAwU/xKcvge1_09Q/s400/fed+reserve+2.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Bj-BhFFGTfY/UNiKVPHi-4I/AAAAAAAAAwU/xKcvge1_09Q/s1600/fed+reserve+2.jpg)




I just finished the tenth edition of Truth Militia Radio with John Friend (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-truth-militia/2012/12/24/truth-militia-radio-with-john-friend). My guest Daryl Bradford Smith of www.iamthewitness.com (http://www.iamthewitness.com/) and I discussed the history of his website and the books you can download there, the history of private central banking and related financial matters. You can download the entire program here (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/4/169/show_4169693.mp3) or subscribe to Truth Militia Radio via iTunes here (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-truth-militia). Apologies for the technical difficulties! Thanks for tuning in and Merry Christmas everyone!




Posted by John Friend (http://www.blogger.com/profile/17331636747072636125) at 9:20 AM 24 comments: (http://johnfriendsblog.blogspot.ie/2012/12/truth-militia-radio-with-john-friend_24.html#comment-form)

I see in the Mami's shit blog entry for the recent spingola show in question, Spingola Speaks 2012.12.31 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/spingola-speaks-20121231.html), "Lindsey" comments,


As for the situation with Darryl supposedly saying that "the Jesuits" control or run ANYTHING...he simply did not say that, and that is that.

Lindsey January 2, 2013 11:37 AM



I know spingola is a big ZCF fan, and ZCF a couple months ago did a hit piece on DBS... I'd have to go back a few pages at http://zioncrimefactory.com to find again. It was a disappointing ZCF rant AFAIC- I attributed it to his youth (22yo) and immaturity.

[osoab]

Is Michael Shrimpton a trustworthy source?

He is affiliated with Gordon Duff. He also just says it happened in this release. No sources given.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/shrimpton/



Michael Shrimpton is a barrister, called to the Bar in London 1983 and is a specialist in National Security and Constitutional Law, Strategic Intelligence and Counter-Terrorism. He has wide ranging connections both in Western Intelligence agencies and amongst ex-Soviet Bloc agencies. Michael has earned respect in the intelligence community for his analysis of previously unacknowledged post WWII covert operations against the West by organisations based in Washington, Munich, Paris and Brussels and which are continuing in post 9-11.

He is Adjunct Professor of intelligence Studies, Department of National Security, Intelligence and Space Studies, American Military University, teaching intelligence subjects at Masters Degree level to inter alia serving intelligence officers. He has represented US and Israeli intelligence officers in law and has briefed staffers on the Senate select Committee on Intelligence and the Joint Congressional inquiry into 9-11, also addressing panels on terrorism in Washington DC and Los Angeles.

His active assistance to Intelligence and Law Enforcement Agencies in the Global War on Terror has produced some notable success including the exposure of the Abu Graib “hood” photograph as a fake. His work in strategic intelligence takes him on regular trips to the Pentagon and he also met with senior advisors to the President of the Russian Federation in Moscow in November 2005. He participated in the Global Strategic Review conference in Geneva in 2005 and is a regular contributor at conferences such as Intelcon and the Intelligence Summit Washington DC February 2006.

[midnight rambler]

Is Michael Shrimpton a trustworthy source?

He is affiliated with Gordon Duff. He also just says it happened in this release. No sources given.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/shrimpton/



There's always the possibility it's disinfo.

[osoab]

There's always the possibility it's disinfo.


Between a Duff associate and being from Press TV, my first thought was disinfo.

After looking up American Military University (http://www.amu.apus.edu/) as one of his current occupations. I am convinced.

The "founder" left the Marines and started this school in 1991. http://jamesetter.com/?page_id=2

[PatColo]

I love listening to Deanna, but was shocked to hear her come out and tell an outright lie about Daryl Bradford Smith.

She said Daryl was on John Friend's program (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-truth-militia/2012/12/24/truth-militia-radio-with-john-friend) and blamed everything on the Jesuits. I had just listened to that show and to my recollection, Daryl never mentioned the Jesuits, he only talked about the Jews.

I will not be as trusting in anything shes says from now on.

Spingola opens today's show with a mea culpa about her being misdirected about the Friend/DBS interview,
Spingola Speaks 2013.01.02 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/spingola-speaks-20130102.html)

[Serpo]

Superintendent shutters "Narrows school" due to bat man reference A school superintendent shut down his school because it was referenced along with Sandy Hook in the same bat man movie, and he believed that made it a strong possibility that another staged school shooting would happen there. The info on this is really sparse right now, but I have seen references that the actual school is on the map in the bat man movie. This really bodes well for us, I'd call it a victory won. There is something spurious about this that is unconfirmed - that there may have been a date set and the superintendent learned the date and shuttered the school. From the way things are going, this appears to be what actually happened.
This is the e-mail that notified me of this:
From Martin
Narrows High School matches Dark Knight Rises Gotham Map for Narrows. The location for Strike Zone 2 has been identified! It's the Narrows High School in Virginia. The superintendent has closed the school district in an emergency announcement.
After receiving this e-mail, I found this, and it's proof positive. It's the letter from the superintendent of the school, posted on the Narrows High School web site. (http://nhs.gilesk12.org/) If you click the link, this letter is in a PDF that is linked in big red letters "notice from superintendent".
January 1, 2013
Dear Parents/Guardians:
On the evening of Dec. 27th, 2012, the Giles County Sheriff’s Department, the Town of Narrows police department, and the Giles County Schools, were notified by the Va. State police regarding information on a web-site. This web-site discussed the shootings that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut. Included in this discussion on the web-site was how “Sandy Hook” was referenced in the Batman movie “The Dark Knight Rising.” This reference was in a map that appeared in a scene in this movie. Another zone on this map appearing in the movie was “Narrows.” The author, who posted this article, did an online Google search based “on a hunch” for “Narrows Schools.” From this search, information for Narrows Elementary/Middle School and Narrows High School appeared.
Based on this information, we have been in communication with our local law enforcement officials (i.e. – the Sheriff’s Department and Town of Narrows police) to discuss this issue further. Additional precautions have been taken for the immediate future and additional safeguards will be installed at each of our facilities in the near future.
Again, please realize that there were no specific threats made against any of our schools in Giles County. However, based on this information, we are working with our local law enforcement officials to continue to ensure the safety of our students and our staff members.
If you have any questions, please contact your child(s) school or the Giles County School Board office.
Sincerely,
Dr. Terry E. Arbogast, II
Superintendent
Other updates state that today the school was shut down. If this be the case, we really won a big one.
Jan 2, 2012

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

[osoab]

I was just getting ready to post what Serpo posted.

Giles County closes schools Wednesday, alerts parents of website post concern (http://www2.wsls.com/news/2013/jan/01/10/giles-county-schools-alerts-parents-website-post-c-ar-2442931/)

[Glass]

When I watched the movie the map is only on screen for maybe 2 seconds tops. It is not very clear what is written on it. It says "Sandy" but the seconds word looks like "Grande" but it could be "Hook". They seem a fair way apart but the angle of view is pretty limitted. So I wondered where everyone got these easy to read maps with a straight on view rather than a low angle.

There was one map that I saw which clearly showed "Sandy Hook". It also showed "West Chelsea" to the left of "Sandy Hook" and up towards the top of the image is a place called "Fort Clinton". It's located just above the Narrows where this school is.

http://batmangothamcity.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Gotham-map-Dark-Knight-Rises.jpg

Posted by Midnight Rambler (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65846-new-shooting-Newtown-Conn-details-breaking&p=599243&viewfull=1#post599243)

I wonder where this map came from.

Maybe this whole thing was some kind of Voodoo thing to get at Hillary? Falling over and getting concussion and then a blood clot?

[midnight rambler]

Well done video indicating Emilie Parker still alive -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv_RhVgfUQ&feature=player_embedded

[sunshine05]

http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/02/many-contradictory-reports-of-what-happened-in-victoria-sotos-classroom/

Many contradictory reports of what happened in Victoria Soto’s classroom (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/?p=57) Posted on January 2, 2013 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/?p=57) by lynne0312

(http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/author/lynne0312/)

To begin, Ms. Soto was declared a hero by all of the media sources just hours after the tragedy occurred. This was at a time when investigators should have been just barely understanding what happened in the school. There were many witnesses to interview, evidence to analyze, family to notify, etc. Yet they somehow presented this hero story (and others) before anyone fully understood the details. After reading many news reports and listening to interviews about what happened or at least what is being reported to have happened, I’m not understanding what she did that was considered heroic. Anyone with common sense would have done whatever possible to protect themselves as well as the children, yet with so many different versions of this event, it is impossible to understand what really happened.


This (http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/12/us/sandy-hook-timeline/index.html?iid=article_sidebar) article has Soto directing the kids “away from the door”.


“In another classroom, Victoria Soto, 27, moved her first-grade students away from the door. The gunman burst in and shot her, according to the father of a surviving student. Six students were killed in that classroom.”



This article (http://www.news.com.au/world/teacher-victoria-soto-threw-herself-in-front-of-her-students-to-save-them-at-sandy-hook-elementary-school/story-fndir2ev-1226537530317) has her throwing her body in front of the children.


“Miss Soto sacrificed herself to save her students – throwing her body in front of the young children.”



And a “friend” had this to say:


A friend posted a tribute to Miss Soto on her Tumblr account. (http://flagonthemoon.tumblr.com/post/37960470291/my-good-friend-vicki-soto-passed-away-in-todays)In her tribute she wrote: “I talked to Vicki Tuesday and she told me that she loved her 16 angels and never wanted to let them go. Today when the shooting started Vicki hid her kids in closets and when the gunman came into her room she told them the class was in gym. She was then murdered. Not one of her students were harmed. Words can not express how heartbreaking and tragic this is. I will miss you dearly.”


Does this sound like something a teacher would say about her students??? And, it’s then stated that not one of her students were harmed?!


Another version (http://www.digtriad.com/news/article/259640/57/Family-Friends-Attend-Funeral-Of-Teacher-Student):


Her students told police that she tried to distract gunman Adam Lanza, but when half of the class tried to run, Lanza opened fire. According to investigators, when Vicki was found, it was clear that she died trying to shield her students from harm.



This contradicts what has been reported (http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connecticut-school-shooting-narrative/index.html) by the parents of Aidan Licata. They state that he walked in the room, shot Soto and he and 5 others escaped by walking right past him in the doorway!


This article (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2250441/Sandy-Hook-shooting-Family-Dylan-Hockley-pay-tribute-teachers-died.html)describes Soto hiding the kids in a closet and when telling Lanza that the kids were at the opposite end of the school, 6 kids tried to escape and he shot them all.


“Dylan’s teacher Vicki Soto died while saving her pupils. She hid them in her classroom closet and confronted Adam Lanza, telling them the children were at the other end of the school.
Six children panicked and tried to escape but the teacher put herself in the line of fire so she could save them, but they were all shot multiple times.
Mr and Mrs Hockley said their son’s teacher was ‘warm and funny’ and Dylan ‘loved her dearly’.
The couple also said they take ‘great comfort’ in knowing that their son did not die alone.
He was found in the arms of teacher’s aide Anne Marie Murphy, who was also shot dead.



There are more variations – some have her hiding some of the kids and Murphy under her desk, some have her huddled with the children, etc. Who knows what to believe. The official story is the 14 kids were shot in Rousseau’s class and 6 in Soto’s. Since Murphy was in Soto’s classroom and it’s stated that the 6 kids were shot “trying to escape”, then how did she get shot? It’s reported that Hockley died in her arms. None of it makes sense!


There are also reports that 6 children escaped unharmed. How can that possibly reconcile with “6 children were shot trying to escape”?


And (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/16/newtown-shootings-gunman-soto-details/1772791/),


“Finally, they (police) opened that door and there were seven sets of eyes looking at them,” the Courant reported, citing a law enforcement officer familiar with the events. The kids told the officer what had happened. “She tried to save her class,” he said of Victoria Soto.
If 6 kids were shot trying to escape, 6 kids escaped unharmed and 7 kids survived hiding in the closet, how does one explain that she only had 15 (or 16 according to the “friend”) students? Here is the class photo that’s being presented.
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/class-500x281.jpg?w=640 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=58)


It is all so confusing. Here is a short video that consists of two separate (and inconsistent) interviews with the parents of Aidan Licata as well as a short part of Gene Rosen’s interview. Rosen is the neighbor who claims that 6 students from Soto’s class ended up at his house. He reported that their parents eventually picked the students up there. In an interview, Aidan’s mother reported that she picked her son up from the police station. In a news article (http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connecticut-school-shooting-narrative/index.html), it’s reported that she found him at the fire station, so three versions.


Where was Aiden? He has to be safe.
Relief came in the form of a text on her phone. Aiden, she learned, was in the firehouse already.

He had come face-to-face with the gunman when he entered Soto’s classroom and ran right by him to escape, he later told his parents.



I get the sense that the general story was written but the actors involved in this didn’t remember the exact script so that the stories would be consistent. Where are the journalists questioning all of these inconsistencies? It is no wonder that so many people are trying to understand what really happened in Sandy Hook.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocx6qLZ6BnU

[Serpo]

so mant inconsistancies and they havnt pinned down the correct story,like what really happened

[midnight rambler]

so mant inconsistancies and they havnt pinned down the correct story,like what really happened

They've promised everyone a full report (including motivation/reason)...in a few months.

[JohnQPublic]

I am trying to track down the statwement that 4 handguns were used, and no rifle. I found this timeline that corroborates reports of this in a few spots:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/12/newtown-connecticut-school-shooting/59999/

Anyone find anything more definite? I try and search for news, and pretty much come up empty.

[sunshine05]

I am trying to track down the statwement that 4 handguns were used, and no rifle. I found this timeline that corroborates reports of this in a few spots:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/12/newtown-connecticut-school-shooting/59999/

Anyone find anything more definite? I try and search for news, and pretty much come up empty.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98TV7OFazFU

[joboo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAO5_Hk06Mc&feature=player_embedded


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpinCRaAQOk&feature=player_embedded

[Son-of-Liberty]

Right. That was fast work. Who labeled the photos of the children with their names? I'm assuming they used the class photos. I have never heard of someone aside from family or close friends making identifications. The whole thing is just unbelievable, probably because it never happened.

Don't know if we can say it never happened yet but it certainly didn't happen the way they want us to believe it happened. The actors and lack of concrete evidence could just be them covering up the real evidence that doesn't fit the narrative.

Was there a solid source that the parents never got to identify their children?

[sunshine05]

Don't know if we can say it never happened yet but it certainly didn't happen the way they want us to believe it happened. The actors and lack of concrete evidence could just be them covering up the real evidence that doesn't fit the narrative.

Was there a solid source that the parents never got to identify their children?

Sure, that is just my opinion. I believe if it happened they would be showing us the broken glass and at least some images from the school.

Yes, it has been stated that nobody got to see the bodies. I would have to dig to find it. If I have a chance, I will.

[GeneBlaze]

I am trying to track down the statwement that 4 handguns were used, and no rifle. I found this timeline that corroborates reports of this in a few spots:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/12/newtown-connecticut-school-shooting/59999/

Anyone find anything more definite? I try and search for news, and pretty much come up empty.

If you are looking for a specific date when that newscast aired, it was Monday, December 17. I remember the date because I attended a function that took place the next day and remember discussing it with a friend.

[midnight rambler]

If you are looking for a specific date when that newscast aired, it was Monday, December 17. I remember the date because I attended a function that took place the next day and remember discussing it with a friend.

ME Carver's nooz conference was on Sat. 12/15 and that is when 'the official narrative' established that all victims were "shot with a long rifle", i.e. the point where it was 'established' that *only* two handguns were found in the school.

[old steel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrRjOZHQnE8

[Cebu_4_2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhLe2i8uFwc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhLe2i8uFwc

[midnight rambler]

"This is See BS."

So how did See BS get the cell phone # of a parent of a kid in a Newtown school so quickly...??

[Cebu_4_2]

"This is See BS."

So how did See BS get the cell phone # of a parent of a kid in a Newtown school so quickly...??

That's the point, she was originally texted by See-bs to let her know the gig was going down... why was that? Also notice how the 'reporters' are leading the kids answers, that didnt work quite so well in the video where the girl heard nothing but saw the Feds crawling all over the school.

[Glass]

Is there something in the first portion of the video that I'm missing. It gets rewound and played again but there is no audio so I'm not sure what the point is there.

[Cebu_4_2]

The words he added on screen said 'hey guys we're on, look alive' and rewinds to show their attention... I think that is what your referring to.

[Glass]

Summary of Aurora, Sikh Temple and Sandy Hook issues in one news type bulletin - Full Disclosure.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66271-Lone-Wolf-theory&p=600827&viewfull=1#post600827

Posted by Steal. I think this has potential for increasing the number of people questioning this because of the way in which it is presented. It's got MSM polish to it.

[PatColo]

agree, that's a good one. Now if we could keep sandy hook- conspiratorial perspective- posts in one thread, that'd be great! :)

Full Disclosure: CO, WI, CT shootings.. Are These The Work of "Lone Wolf" Gunmen? - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZPS7AdgNgE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZPS7AdgNgE


I would also like a credible "primary source" link for the 'meme' that none of the parents were able to see their dead kids in the flesh, but settled for photos if that. I'd like to propagate this elsewhere as it would be an astonishing "anomaly" wrt the official story-- but not without a credible source link. All I've seen is the "parents" clip with the smiley parents touting their girl's OWL drawing, and saying they were happy not to see her physically; "wanted to remember her better alive self".... but every time I've heard (truth-radio podcasts (http://grizzom.blogspot.com)) or seen this "no parent physical inspections" claim, it's been "hearsay" with no reliable source accompanying.


edit: start of Anderson Vanderbilt/Cooper interview with smiley parents at ~2:30, OWL at 5:25,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1jg0H-MfVY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1jg0H-MfVY

BCCMightySanta (http://www.youtube.com/user/BCCMightySanta?feature=watch)·42 videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/BCCMightySanta/videos)



Published on Dec 23, 2012
A compilation of some of the new things that I've found and that have been sent to me by different viewers. Thank you for all of your research. Below are links to the full videos and articles used in this video

McDonnell parents live through Grace: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQNVJE4xgk

Newtown, Connecticut Family on Losing Child in Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itX1AI8Z-nM

Active Shooter Crisis Actors Target Mall Shootings via Visionbox: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/active-shooter-crisis-actors-target-110421683.html

Vision Box (Located in Denver): http://visionbox.org/

Crisis Actors: http://crisisactors.org/

Derren Brown Assassin Full Episode. Notice the comments the video is getting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90xfZJQzAhc

[Glass]

There is preliminary identification by photo @ 0:39


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYEwrM-4DyQ

somewhere else he is asked if the ID will be by photo and says yes, then there was some comment about parents not needing to see things... not sure if it was same person. There is a longer version of the interview that runs 15:30

[Twisted Titan]

Then you better rip this video real quick before YT takes it down

15 min interview


http://youtu.be/zE0OT5od9DA

[Glass]

Thats the one TT. Just after minute 7 he states that they did not bring the children and parents together for formal ID. They took facial photos of the children and used those.

Between minute 4 and minute 7 he states that all the victims he saw had been killed by the long gun.

[PatColo]

it occurs that another "lesson" they're trying to "teach" americans via this psyop is, "they" own you, your kids. The actor/parents pretending they're just fine with taking big-brother's word that their kid's dead, they didn't want to see anyways- and the only funerals we've heard anything about were- yep, closed casket. Think of the state child stealing phenom in US through CPS, and UK as Brian Gerrish has tried to publicize (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?56138-Manipulation-Of-Your-Mind-by-Government-Agenda-Brian-Gerrish)-- same bottom line, training the public that they OWN your kids, not you. "They" can give your kids poison jabs as they wish, they can take your kids & make them sex slave/trauma-based MK drones as they wish (recall: Children possibly shipped to Denver (http://newsdoors.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/top-12-illuminati-banksters-meet-for.html))- suck it up. But with the pretend-parent/actors in this s.hook fraud, they're trying to "normalize" all this ^.

Brian Gerrish - Child Stealing by the State ( 1 hour Talk ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K8ea1kMN74)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K8ea1kMN74

11 & 13 mins:
Brian Gerrish speaks at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010 (Part 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAowCEeUV4E)


Brian Gerrish speaks at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010 (Part 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iC7Ar4rm3g)

[madfranks]

All I've seen is the "parents" clip with the smiley parents touting their girl's OWL drawing, and saying they were happy not to see her physically; "wanted to remember her better alive self"


it occurs that another "lesson" they're trying to "teach" americans via this psyop is, "they" own you, your kids. The actor/parents pretending they're just fine with taking big-brother's word that their kid's dead, they didn't want to see anyways- and the only funerals we've heard anything about were- yep, closed casket.

This is shocking to me in two ways. One, if anything happened to my kids where one of them died, you better believe with every ounce of strength I have I would want to see them. It simply blows my mind that none of these parents want to see their children! They would rather be insulated from the "discomfort" of discovering and facing the truth! But it also shocks me because I think that's where we are in this sick, sick society, that the parents of a deceased child would prefer to let the state manage and handle it than take care of their own kin. I'm simply stunned at this, these parents, if they're not just a bunch of actors, have failed one of the principal duties of parenthood.

[midnight rambler]

This is shocking to me in two ways. One, if anything happened to my kids where one of them died, you better believe with every ounce of strength I have I would want to see them. It simply blows my mind that none of these parents want to see their children! They would rather be insulated from the "discomfort" of discovering and facing the truth! But it also shocks me because I think that's where we are in this sick, sick society, that the parents of a deceased child would prefer to let the state manage and handle it than take care of their own kin. I'm simply stunned at this, these parents, if they're not just a bunch of actors, have failed one of the principal duties of parenthood.

Indeed, I find it very odd that out of 40 adults there weren't at least SOME who didn't make a stink out of not getting to see the bodies of their babies and receiving a 'locked' casket instead. We supposed to believe that.

[vacuum]

This is shocking to me in two ways. One, if anything happened to my kids where one of them died, you better believe with every ounce of strength I have I would want to see them. It simply blows my mind that none of these parents want to see their children! They would rather be insulated from the "discomfort" of discovering and facing the truth! But it also shocks me because I think that's where we are in this sick, sick society, that the parents of a deceased child would prefer to let the state manage and handle it than take care of their own kin. I'm simply stunned at this, these parents, if they're not just a bunch of actors, have failed one of the principal duties of parenthood.

I'm very shocked as well. How can they even take custody of the body? It doesn't belong to them. Once the autopsy is complete they should be handing them over.

The only reasonable thing to do would be to picket the crime scene yelling "hand over my child!". Force them to either give you your kid or put you in jail.

[madfranks]

I'm very shocked as well. How can they even take custody of the body? It doesn't belong to them. Once the autopsy is complete they should be handing them over.

The only reasonable thing to do would be to picket the crime scene yelling "hand over my child!". Force them to either give you your kid or put you in jail.

Picket the crime scene? Hell, if it was my kid I'd be marching into that school and they'd have to stop me with deadly force to keep me from seeing my child.

[sunshine05]

http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-new-sandy-hook-school/

The New Sandy Hook School (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-new-sandy-hook-school/) Posted on January 4, 2013 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-new-sandy-hook-school/) by lynne0312 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/author/lynne0312/)
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/130103-sandy-hook-sign-1215p-3803807700.jpg?w=300&h=205 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-new-sandy-hook-school/130103-sandy-hook-sign-1215p-3803807700/)

I find it very interesting how quickly all of this transpired. From the decision to offer and then prepare Chalk school for the students, to all of the arrangements, the financial decisions, the physical move, the coordination between the two towns and school boards and the decision to rename the school. All of it happened quite quickly considering the typical bureaucracy involved with school boards and town councils and we are talking about a separate town AND a separate school district.

The offer of the use of Chalk Hill school was reportedly (http://www.lowellsun.com/todaysheadlines/ci_22221981/officials-ok-plans-sandy-hook-students-go-attend) made by Monroe First Selectman Steve Vavrek to the Newtown officials on the day of the shooting!


Monroe First Selectman Steve Vavrek said Monday night that he reached out to Newtown First Selectman Patricia Llorda as soon as he heard about the shooting, offering the use of the vacant school.



I searched for school board meeting minutes on both the Newtown and Monroe town websites and there is no mention of this move. Monroe even has minutes from their school board meeting on 12-17-12 and there is nothing mentioned about Sandy Hook at all. There is no mention on either site about who will pay for the school or how the new school would be managed since they would now technically be part of a new school district. There was no word of a vote of school board members about this move. Nothing at all. Yet we’re too believe that amidst all of the chaos with this horrible tragedy that town officials not only worked out all of the financial details involved but they also worked out all of the logistics, moved all of the furnishings down to the childrens’ backpacks and water bottles and decorated the new school with snowflakes on the windows?!


They did construction to accommodate the students, such as raising the floors in the lavatories, they arranged all of the transportation changes with the busing company, got the building up to code and inspected, arranged all of the food service, office staff, hired a new principal, officially renamed the school, etc. ALL of this allegedly occurred in a two week span and during the holidays. Amazing!
I also found (http://newtown.patch.com/articles/sandy-hook-students-back-in-school-at-chalk-hill) it very interesting that Chalk Hill school is also being used by Monroe Parks and Recreation.


The last time Chalk Hill was used as a school, the sixth grade was on the second floor and the building was shared with the Parks & Recreation Department downstairs. Parks & Rec. is still there and the Monroe Volunteer Emergency Medical Service uses the building for training.



Note that the address for the new Sandy Hook school is listed as 375 Fan Hill Road. I searched the Parks and Recreation website (http://www.monroerec.org/info/) and noticed that there are still many active classes listed for Chalk Middle school. Interestingly, the address is listed as 375 Monroe Turnpike. According to the Parks website, Fawn Hollow Elementary is located at 375 Fan Hill Road.



http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/schools.jpg?w=640&h=214 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-new-sandy-hook-school/schools/)
These are some of the activities listed for Chalk Hill School:
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/chalk-hill-activities.jpg?w=640&h=414 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-new-sandy-hook-school/chalk-hill-activities/)


So we’re to believe that all of this is taking place at the same location as the new Sandy Hook school? Wow.


The article referenced above also mentions that Fawn Hollow Elementary was built on the same property as Chalk Middle school.


Chalk Hill was built in the back of the same property where Fawn Hollow Elementary School is. It was designed by architect, Fletcher-Thompson Inc.
This all gets confusing, but contrary to the Parks and Rec website which lists the address for Fawn Hollow as 375 Fan Hill Rd, there is also information elsewhere that lists it as 345 Fan Hill Road.


http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/fawn-hill.jpg?w=640

(http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-new-sandy-hook-school/fawn-hill/)

This is 375 Monroe Turnpike on Google Maps. It is labeled as “Monroe Board of Education” in Google Maps.


http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/375-monroe-turnpike.jpg?w=640&h=482 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-new-sandy-hook-school/375-monroe-turnpike/)


A bit down the road is what appears to be another school. If you hover over it, it appears to be 362 Monroe, but I’m unable to find a listing for a school at that address.


http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/school-near-375-monroe.jpg?w=640 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-new-sandy-hook-school/school-near-375-monroe/)
However, the Monroe school board website has Monroe Elementary listed as 375 Monroe Turnpike. The website is strange as there is no photo of the school and the website is not being kept up to date. The most recent announcement is about school pictures in September ’12.


http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/monroe-elementary-school.jpg?w=640&h=122

(http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-new-sandy-hook-school/monroe-elementary-school/)

This is all so confusing and I’m not sure what’s going on. Consider this though. No media was allowed to be anywhere near the new Sandy Hook school as students began classes this week. I don’t trust any of this because I don’t believe it would have been possible to accomplish all of this in this short time span and there is no evidence to support the claims. A photo of the newly converted school and signs “welcome Sandy Hook students” isn’t enough to convince me that any of this took place, especially after seeing the address discrepancies described above. Something is seriously wrong here.


Here’s the Google image of the three schools at that location, the location where the “new” Sandy Hook School is allegedly located – Fawn Hollow Elementary (345 or 375 Fan Hill RD), Chalk Hill / New Sandy Hook (375 Fan Hill RD OR 375 Monroe Turnpike) and a middle school Jockey Hollow Middle school (365 Fan Hill RD).


http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/schools-2.jpg?w=640 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-new-sandy-hook-school/schools-2/)


In addition to moving the students to a new school, volunteers are now building (http://newtown.patch.com/articles/sandy-hook-students-back-in-school-at-chalk-hill) a new playground at the location. Yeah, right!


There is also easy access to the field in the back of the building, where volunteers are now building a playground for Sandy Hook Elementary School.



There is much to say about all of this but I don’t want this post to get too lengthy, so I have just a couple of final thoughts for now.


If Sandy Hook is still considered an “active” crime scene, how did they allow workers with moving vans to enter the building and remove all of the bookcases, the student’s desks and even their backpacks without disturbing the crime scene?


And finally, not only did they by some miracle achieve this school relocation but they staffed the Monroe police department with enough officers so that 10 of them could guard the new school! This is what their bright new uniforms look like.


http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/monroe-police-at-school.jpg?w=640 (http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-new-sandy-hook-school/monroe-police-at-school/)

[freespirit]

Sunshine, you have been like a dog with a bone on this one! your contributions to the thread have been excellent! keep up the good work!

;D

[sunshine05]

Sunshine, you have been like a dog with a bone on this one! your contributions to the thread have been excellent! keep up the good work!

;D

Thanks! I know, I can't let this one go.

[freespirit]

i hear ya! there is simply too much that doesn't add up on this... nothing makes any sense with this incident.

[JohnQPublic]

Between minute 4 and minute 7 he states that all the victims he saw had been killed by the long gun.

And then they cut to a picture of a Bushmaster 223. Someone objected that the long gun was in the trunk, and someone else replied that is not true. We could not see who replied because we were looking at a picture of the Bushmaster.

[PatColo]

Yeah thanks sunshine, quite a master work in reply 610 :)

the other 'meme' which I'd like a primary source link for, are the early reports that a sheriff's deputy was assigned to babysit every surviving family, ?! remember that one? Another one I only heard/read banter about, but never a credible link.

[midnight rambler]

Yeah thanks sunshine, quite a master work in reply 610 :)

the other 'meme' which I'd like a primary source link for, are the early reports that a sheriff's deputy was assigned to babysit every surviving family, ?! remember that one? Another one I only heard/read banter about, but never a credible link.

It was State Troopers assigned to that task, not Sheriff's deputies. And FWIW, State Troopers in every state are Federal (they just don't advertise that fact).

[PatColo]

ok, state troopers then. Have link? that story has really quieted down, even in discussion forums.

[sunshine05]

http://www.thereddingpilot.com/7218/sandy-hook-elementary-shooting-redding-police-among-first-responders/

Sgt. Pat Daubert of the Weston Police Department told The Weston Forum, The Pilot’ssisternewspaper, that he helped reunite parents with their children at the Sandy Hook firehouse, and he credited Chief Fuchs with creating order among chaos and organizing the reunions in a composed way. “Chief Fuchs had the children wait in one room and arranged them by grade and class. The parents waited in another room. After IDs were checked, we brought the children to the parents. Considering the circumstances and how emotional and upset everyone was, things went very smoothly,” Sgt. Daubert said.

Chief Fuchs said that one of the greatest accomplishments to come from this was the pairing of a police officer with every single family who lost someone. “Twenty-six officers were assigned to families. They were assigned that morning and are staying with them until they are no longer needed,” he said.


Officer Heibeck and Sgt. Signore were both assigned a family and were responsible for notifying parents about the loss of their children. “They’ve been at the house every day. They brought the families to the vigil on Sunday and will bring them to the wakes and funerals,” said Chief Fuchs.

[midnight rambler]

ok, state troopers then. Have link? that story has really quieted down, even in discussion forums.

No link, but I clearly recall reports saying State Troopers were assigned to the families, however WTH knows for sure since we've gotten so many conflicting reports.

[Hatha Sunahara]

I'm not sure how credible the work of wellaware1.com is, but I found a video they did that describes Homeland Security 'Full Scale Exercises'. This might put the CT shooting in perspective of a hoax:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=COl8rRcbhsc#!

There is a wealth of interesting stuff here: http://www.wellaware1.com/fairfield.htm


Hatha

[PatColo]

authored by Phillip Marlowe and reprinted @ incogman- re the weird neighbor with the changing story about the kids in his driveway...

Crazy Old Jew Blows Sandy Hook Anti-gun Psyops! (http://incogman.net/01/2013/crazy-old-jew-blows-sandy-hook-anti-gun-psyops/)

Posted on January 4, 2013 (http://incogman.net/01/2013/crazy-old-jew-blows-sandy-hook-anti-gun-psyops/) by INCOG MAN (http://incogman.net/author/incog-man/)
http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/NO-COUNTRY-FOR-OLD-JEWS1.jpg (http://incogman.net/01/2013/crazy-old-jew-blows-sandy-hook-anti-gun-psyops/no-country-for-old-jews-2/)

THE TRAITOROUS COMMIE Jew scam is going down, Jack! People all over the place are now having serious doubts about the whole “lone crazy kid gunman massacre at Sandy Hook elementary school” business. Even some I once wrote off as mostly braindead, shuffling along through life believing everything they see on TV is real — even “Storage Wars” – are starting to think something wrong is going on. Likewise, I’m certain secretive and murderous Zio Jew forces are at this moment working to limit the damage or, like Gene Rosen below, just trying to continue on with the Jew show!

Here’s what I think happened: The plan by the real perps called for six innocent widdle kiddies to survive the assault by the so-called “lone gunman” Adam Lanza. Vicki Soto and any adults who happened to be in the room (like the teacher helpers) had to die right off the bat. Everyone knows little kids at that age can’t really say or notice all that much and will not make dangerous witnesses later. But adults sure can.

And there’s no way they would put such “traumatized” little children on the air later. Perfect excuse for a country they think is now mostly PC braindead and lacking critical thinking skills to see the real power structure.

The extremely clever plan was to waste enough innocents to shock America, along with creating a few “Flight 93” instant heroes for the nation to fawn and bawl over during the legislative and media efforts to disarm us. Instead, the real assassin(s) had to slay the last bunch of kids because something interrupted the plan (probably the police unexpectedly reacted too quickly). Six was the specific number planned to go free, because they told Gene Rosen in advance that six frightened children would end up on his driveway. They also told him that a teacher, “Mrs. Soto,” would die a hero’s death and to make a big deal about it. But Rosen went way overboard with his ham acting in front the TV cameras.*

Please watch the video of this Jewish Don Knots below!

Continue reading → (http://incogman.net/01/2013/crazy-old-jew-blows-sandy-hook-anti-gun-psyops/#more-91979)

[author goes on ^ to propose a whole scenario of what he suspects really happened. Here's the vid he posted, for those who don't make the leap - PC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNfesyWUeZk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNfesyWUeZk

Sandy Hook Shooting Hoax "Eyewitness" (Actor?) Gene Rosen


http://i3.ytimg.com/i/V_J8--LzIOSSH5nkW06WSQ/1.jpg?v=50dbe7e6 (http://www.youtube.com/user/thepaulstalservice?feature=watch)thepaulstalservic e (http://www.youtube.com/user/thepaulstalservice?feature=watch)·101 videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/thepaulstalservice/videos)




Published on Jan 3, 2013
The terms "the light and the darkness" seems to keep showing up in a lot of these false flag attacks. The last one where I noticed a lot of references to "the light and the darkness" was the Aurora false flag gun control hoax.

Gene Rosen keeps saying the same things over and over again. In my opinion (I could be completely wrong) this appears indicative of scripted/practiced comments that have been well rehearsed ahead of time which would explain the strange occurrence.

One thing is for sure, Gene doesn't think his house is big enough, even though it appears to be plenty large for just be him, his wife and his cats, and you would think a 2 story house with huge yard and lofted garage would suffice, apparently not for Gene.. One has to wonder, how will this man benefit financially from this event?

Why does he use the exact same phrases and terminology in pretty much every interview he is in? It seems more than simply a coincidence. If you watch other eyewitness testimony from legitimate events, the witnesses hardly ever use the same terminology over and over again like Gene does.

Where is the proof that these children were actually at his house?, What were their names, and why would they be dropped off at his yard, when the firehouse is closer to the school, and was the official rendezvous point?

In some of his interviews, Gene starts off "I was coming out of the loft over there after feeding my cats." In another interview he says "I heard a hunter's gunshots, a staccato sound".. You would think he would remember and mention the gunshots in every interview.

Rosen didn't keep the phone numbers of the parents that the alleged bus driver wrote down to contact the parents? There appears to be ZERO proof that any children were in fact in Genes home, besides his very strange testimony.

[Glass]

There are a lot of different scenarios out there about this guy. It would be a handy time for the bus driver to step forward. How many school busses could there be?

[PatColo]

also @ incogman, he's flamboyantly waycist :o, but he writes with a certain gusto which I like ;D

Sandy Hook Reeks of Satanic NWO Jew Psyops (http://incogman.net/01/2013/sandy-hook-reeks-of-satanic-nwo-jew-psyops/)

Posted on January 2, 2013 (http://incogman.net/01/2013/sandy-hook-reeks-of-satanic-nwo-jew-psyops/) by INCOG MAN (http://incogman.net/author/incog-man/)
http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/OBAMA-LANZA-ART.jpg (http://incogman.net/01/2013/sandy-hook-reeks-of-satanic-nwo-jew-psyops/obama-lanza-art/)


I’ve been reading from some of the links people have been putting on my site. Frankly, at first, I pretty much thought it was just a kid with developmental problems, who’s mind was twisted by SSRI drugs, the insanely violent Jew media and video games. Thinking back, it seems pretty obvious the media worked fast to get that idea out there immediately, which in itself is a big red flag.


So, yeah, I’m not too sure anymore. Let’s take each item that strikes me as suspicious:


Lauren Rousseau, one of the teachers killed, had her car shot up in the parking lot (photo below). Well, maybe not exactly “shot up” but photos definitely show two distinct bullet holes. And her car was supposedly in the middle of the parking lot, with other cars all around. What are the chances of two stray rounds leaving the school and just happening to hit her car? Some, I suppose.


The car Adam Lanza drove to the crime scene was not registered to his mother or him. It was registered (http://www.dailypaul.com/267333/who-is-christo-pher-a-rodia-and-why-was-his-car-found-at-sandy-hook-elm) to a low rent, copper thieving (stealing copper gutters) druggie scumbag and member of a drug dealing family in Norwalk, Connecticut named Christopher H. Rodia. This is really odd. So how come the media has said absolutely nothing about this peculiar situation?


Continue reading → (http://incogman.net/01/2013/sandy-hook-reeks-of-satanic-nwo-jew-psyops/#more-91830)

[Down1]

A new collection of White House photos includes an image of the moment on Dec. 14 when President Obama heard about details of the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut.
http://news.yahoo.com/photo-shows-obama-hearing-sandy-hook-shooting-153645348--abc-news-politics.html


http://news.yahoo.com/photo-shows-obama-hearing-sandy-hook-shooting-153645348--abc-news-politics.html

[PatColo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzJo0t2tDto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzJo0t2tDto

Published on Jan 3, 2013
The sandy hook story has fallen apart
Damage limitation mode is in operation
Yet the majority of the population accept what the mainstream media is saying
The big question (pointed out to me by a commenter) is what sinister intentions are in store that they need to disarm the population?
Concentrating on Sandy Hook can be a distraction to the bigger plan
Has investigating 9/11 or 7/7 stopped the military adventures that they supposedly justified?
We are all Palestinians now

Woman claims her daughter is still alive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAsVmzBX8F0

Car belongs to man charged with felonies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXksKWJV8lc
or here it is easier to view: https://hotfile.com/dl/187396661/98c76ea/The_Media_is_Lying_to_you_about_Adam... (https://hotfile.com/dl/187396661/98c76ea/The_Media_is_Lying_to_you_about_Adam_Lanzas_Car_Sa ndy_Hook_Newtown_Shooting_HOAX_FRAUD_PROOF_%281%29 .mp4.html)

Local resident says no one on the block knows these people called Lanza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2EO7jRYycI

People allegedly Acting saying children died (Greenbergs at end)
https://hotfile.com/dl/187349660/7d13015/Actors_in_Newtown_Sandy_Hook_Element... (https://hotfile.com/dl/187349660/7d13015/Actors_in_Newtown_Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_Mov ie_FIXED_SYNC.mp4.html)
or same video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxZhug4rkb4
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/68689_10151394137365628_1099065848... (http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/68689_10151394137365628_1099065848_n.jpg)
or similar pic here: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Tnx17qKF0mg/UOZjbK7PbBI/AAAAAAAARSI/mom-AbyyIH0/s16... (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Tnx17qKF0mg/UOZjbK7PbBI/AAAAAAAARSI/mom-AbyyIH0/s1600/734839_114860752019931_1968390113_n.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfScPPysADQ
(I read that the Gene character called the parents after sheltering the children for a couple of hours [not the police])

Witness says police arrived before gun shots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7KR2YtvBnY

School principle reported alive after shooting - later retracted with apology by newspaper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30Y-iHzpFg

500 Murders In Chicago Show Gun Bans Don't Work
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/010213-639108-500-murders-rahm-emanu... (http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/010213-639108-500-murders-rahm-emanuel-chicago-gun-ban.htm)

School Nurse without a license (A commenter has pointed out she is registered under a different name "sarah" instead of the "Sally" she is known as (or was that added later?)
http://whatreallyhappened.com/fr/content/sally-cox-sandy-hook-school-nurse-no... (http://whatreallyhappened.com/fr/content/sally-cox-sandy-hook-school-nurse-no-nursing-license)

[PatColo]

also @ incogman, he's flamboyantly waycist :o, but he writes with a certain gusto which I like ;D

Sandy Hook Reeks of Satanic NWO Jew Psyops (http://incogman.net/01/2013/sandy-hook-reeks-of-satanic-nwo-jew-psyops/)


I notice article makes the unsourced claim, "Rosen, a retired psychiatrist, is also supposedly registered with the Screen Actors Guild (what a Jew!). Knowing how blindly Jew insular and anti-Second Amendment liberal and Jew-owned Hollywood is, you just might see this old geezer getting an Oscar this year." Anyone heard this?

this clip is embedded there ^, posted 12/22 but nice lay-person oriented rant over how fishy s.hook is,
Beautiful Rant By Adam Curry About How Fake the Sandy Hook Shooting Is, The No Agenda Show (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW8tVWtrQeM&)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW8tVWtrQeM&

[PatColo]

Carolyn Yeager podcast:
How Big of a Hoax was the Sandy Hook “Massacre?” (http://thewhitenetwork.com/2013/01/05/how-big-of-a-hoax-was-the-sandy-hook-massacre/) Published on January 5, 2013 (http://thewhitenetwork.com/2013/01/05/how-big-of-a-hoax-was-the-sandy-hook-massacre/) by Carolyn (http://thewhitenetwork.com/author/carolyn/) in Saturday Afternoon with Carolyn Yeager (http://thewhitenetwork.com/category/saturday-afternoon-with-carolyn-yeager/)
Jan. 5, 2013
http://thewhitenetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SA_sandy-hook-montage.jpg (http://thewhitenetwork.com/2013/01/05/how-big-of-a-hoax-was-the-sandy-hook-massacre/sa_sandy-hook-montage/)
Don, a lawyer from California, and Martin, a writer from England, discuss with Carolyn just what kind of a hoax took place at the Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dec. 14, 2012, when 20 first-graders and 6 teachers were allegedly killed. That’s right. The big question is not whether it was some kind of hoax but did this really happen at all or was it a “media event” in which no real deaths occurred? It’s a frank discussion that leads into possibilities most people would never consider, but more and more people are finding plausible. Some highlights:




Is there such a thing as “media paintings” for TV that look like real life;
No survivors; no witnesses; no one saw the crime scene or a single dead body;
Was there ever a classroom of these children in that school or is it all invented;
Are they testing just how much they can get away with on a television-addicted public?
And much more!


Carolyn takes the first 15 minutes to talk about Günter Deckert, who just began a 5-month prison term in Mannheim, Germany for “Holocaust” denial. To write to Günter in prison: G. Deckert; z. Z. Herzogenriedstr. 111; D 68169 Mannheim. To send a contribution/donation of cash: Registered mail to Pf. 100 245 (G.D.); D 69442 Weinheim/B. His wife will receive it and reply with a card or letter. To send a wire transfer: Günter Deckert; IBAN: DE77 6601 0134 3457 54; BIC: PBNKDEFF; Postbank Karlsruhe. Do not talk about money in any letter sent to the prison.



Podcast: Download MP3 (http://thewhitenetwork.com/data/audio/tWn_Saturday_Afternoon_with_Carolyn_Yeager_2013010 5.mp3)

[MNeagle]

Cathy Gaubert Claims Daughter’s Photo Was Stolen And Used As Sandy Hook Shooting Victim

http://govtslaves.info/cathy-gaubert...ooting-victim/ (http://govtslaves.info/cathy-gaubert-claims-her-daughters-photo-was-stolen-from-flicker-and-used-as-sandy-hook-shooting-victim/)

http://govtslaves.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/9xGuF6Q.png

(Thomas Dishaw) More interesting developments on the Sandy Hook shooting conspiracy…A women named Cathy Gaubert is claiming someone stole her daughter’s “first day of school” picture.

The photo was lifted from their Flicker account and published as a victim in the Sandy Hook shooting.

The mother took to Instagram posting this interesting message asking readers to put pressure on Facebook users to remove it from their pages .

According to the mother there is one page who is ignoring her request.

The above picture looks like its from the Daily Mail, although attempts to find a cashed version of the page were unsuccessful, as were attempts to contact the mother. You can view her Twitter page here and Instagram here. I don’t know but this Sandy Hook thing keeps getting weirder and weirder!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IAsVmzBX8F0

[Twisted Titan]

I just want to be clear.

Every funeral thus far the casket has been closed and only a picture of deceased kid is shown???

[PatColo]

^ I don't know TT- this being a psyop, and that being yet another big clue, I don't expect to find any ZSM sources reporting on "all closed caskets". It would only be alt media which would report, and if we imagine it's a psyop again, there would be no real public memorials in most cases to investigate.

Don't know much about this "Morris" guy- Rense & WRH seem to like linking to his vids, but I know nothing of why we should be listening to him- most of his ~5 min spiels I've watched are just moderately insightful. Anyway this one's interesting, reminds me of Rivero's old essay, The Point Of No Return (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/noreturn.html) (about "humiliating us" with in-our-face lies and thus making us more malleable as we fear looking in the mirror at what we've become, are self-loathing at a subconsious level, outside we become the LIARS' greatest supporters-- stockholm syndrome stuff):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj8HrS2aoGc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj8HrS2aoGc

Published on Jan 5, 2013
The reasons why Contradictions are deliberately shown

In Short: To break us down ....

Gun Inconsistencies in Sandy Hook School Mass Shooting:
http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju_NllT1iDo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju_NllT1iDo)


PROOF SANDY HOOK IS FAKE Woman's Daughter's Photo used for Sandy Hook Shooting victim.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAsVmzBX8F0

[Glass]

Cathy Gaubert Claims Daughter’s Photo Was Stolen And Used As Sandy Hook Shooting Victim

So I ask myself, where is the mother of Allison Wyatt and why is she not making a noise about the wrong picture being used for her child?

Was news of the funerals broadcast or at least published? I'm thinking thousands of guilt trippers would show up to participate in the mourning and funeral. That's what seems to happen here when some especially tragic death occurs. Thousands show up for a mass sobbing. So that would make the news I'm sure. Did all the funerals go down or was there some notices of a service but then it went straigt to burial plot or urn skipping the actual service part?

[joboo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bhj5Jx1iQ_0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2e8RdjfH5E&feature=player_embedded

4269

[PatColo]

^ gawd, Rabbi Dawstein shreds the remainder of what little cred he may have once ever had.

SHAME on Dawstein!
SHAME on Dawstein!! :(

Rabbi Ryan Dawstein Brags: “My Family Killed Nazis for Zion During WWII” (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2013/01/02/rabbi-ryan-dawstein-brags-my-family-killed-nazis-for-zion-during-wwii/)

Kosher Crybaby Ryan Dawstein: “ZCF is a Neo-Nazi Hate Site! Oy Vey!” (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/12/04/kosher-crybaby-ryan-dawstein-zcf-is-a-neo-nazi-hate-site-oy-vey/)

Kosher Crybaby, Ryan Dawson, Blows a Gasket (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/12/03/kosher-crybaby-ryan-dawson-blows-a-gasket/)

[Santa]

outside we become the LIARS' greatest supporters-- stockholm syndrome stuff):

I've found that bringing this up in the real world, and discussing it with relatives and friends is pretty much impossible.
The idea that theses NEWS EVENTS are top to bottom FAKES is really just too much to suggest.
That is, people who have a stake in these things. People like school teachers, firefighters, cops, etc ... bureaucrats and functionaries within the system.

This is actually causing deep psychological communication rifts within our own families and friends.
My SIL, a 5th grade school teacher would absolutely spazzzzzz out if I suggested that this EVENT is a mostly fictional made for TV MEDIA PRODUCTION.

Whether it actually is or not is almost irrelevant. Simply bringing it up in conversation would cause problems.

[PatColo]

^ that's discussed some in the podcast in reply 627 - specifically, events like this divide the reality-based community (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community) & the sheeple, and alienates them from one another... u know the satanists love that!

Afraid I don't have an easy solution though. Only to say, that as marketing people know, a target usually needs to hear a brand (or 'shocking theory' in our case) several times before they consider looking into it. In the internet age we can put a bunch of enticing links, pics, vids under sheeples' noses via email & messageboard... how did Ghandi supposedly say, first they ridicule, then fight, then u win... (also see my siggy quote ;))

[sunshine05]

I think I figured this whole thing out, how they were able to do this. Now I just have to decide if I should write about it or if it's safer to keep it to myself since nothing will be gained from exposing this. Too many people are involved.

[sunshine05]

In the Region: Connecticut and Westchester; Making the Iroquois Pipeline Palatable


By ELEANOR CHARLES
Published: May 24, 1992


THE Iroquois Gas Transmission System may have found an aspirin for the headaches its highway and corporate construction projects cause communities they intrude upon.
In an experiment that could become a model for the future, it has embarked on a $10 million program to compensate 60 New York State and Connecticut towns disrupted by the installation of its 370-mile-long natural gas pipeline. The money will pay for the purchase of open space and the enhancement of environmental and recreational facilities.


"Damage to the environment was the chief complaint we heard when the pipeline was proposed," said Gary Davis, spokesman for Iroquois, "so we sought an environmental solution. As far as we know the natural gas industry has never done anything like this before, nor do I know of any other industry that has." The pipeline route, cutting a swath that varies from 30 to 70 feet in width, covers piping buried eight feet underground, through which Canadian gas is being transported to distributors. It begins in Waddington, N.Y., on the St. Lawrence River and ends at South Commack, L.I. No trees can be replanted along the path, but Iroquois is restoring the surface with grass and shrubs.


Announcement in 1986 of the taking of private property under a Federal mandate created a firestorm of protest in the affected towns. In Connecticut, residential communities beginning with Sherman at the crossover point from New York State, then winding through New Milford, Brookfield, Newtown, Monroe, Shelton and down to Milford on Long Island Sound, where the pipeline enters the water, objected to no avail.

In the end, Connecticut's seven affected towns will acquire only 411 acres of a total of 3,440 acres in the two states, but the cost will be $4,427,000, or almost half the total.
"Land costs are so high in southwestern Connecticut we didn't get as much as we wanted," said Leslie N. Corey, director of the Nature Conservancy in Middletown, and a member of the Iroquois Land Preservation and Enhancement Program Advisory Committee. "But providing a public benefit of this magnitude is precedent-setting." Additional acreage and improvements for state parks are expected to be financed by Connecticut's matching of the $397,600 Iroquois for that purpose.

A seven-member committee of environmentalists from both states, formed in 1991 and headed by former Senator Paul Tsongas of Massachusetts, reviews proposals submitted by local and state governments and administers the funds. The panel was approved by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission in 1990.

Shelton won the largest grant in both states, $972,000 to buy the 52-acre Nicholdale farm. "It had been on the market for around $4 million," said Terry Jones, owner of the adjacent Jones Tree Farm, and one of several landowners who proposed the purchase. The farm will be preserved as open space in perpetuity, and Shelton will lose little in property taxes because of a 1963 state law allowing municipalities to give preferential tax treatment for forest and farm lands.

Newtown has been approved to receive $904,000 for projects including the acquisition of 65 acres on the Housatonic River to preserve a bald eagle wintering roost, improvements to a nature center, rebuilding a dam, and completion of a town pool.

"Some proposals will take another few years to negotiate," said Mr. Davis, the utility spokesman. Discussions with two property owners in New Milford have bogged down over price. The town has $280,000 in a land-acquisition fund to supplement the $424,000 Iroquois grant to buy 136 acres owned by John W. Nostrand, and 45 acres owned by Arthur Sega.


http://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/24/realestate/in-the-region-connecticut-and-westchester-making-the-iroquois-pipeline-palatable.html

The park that borders "Sandy Hook school" is Treadwell Memorial Park.

Here is the sign, look closely.

4270

I believe the structures that are supposed to be the schools are meter stations at both locations.

[sunshine05]

This is the trek of the gas pipelines. The reason I became suspicious is that you aren't able to do Google street search at these locations to get a good look at the "schools". I started looking at the surrounding parks and found this. There's more but I'm convinced this is all govt land. I believe they also did/do FEMA training in the general area.

4271

[Santa]

Sunshine, this is very important and pertinent information. I'm so impressed.

[sunshine05]

Sunshine, this is very important and pertinent information. I'm so impressed.

Thanks. It could all be just coincidence but there's something strange about the land even aside from the info on the gas lines. In both cases, both in Sandy Hook and in Monroe, the schools sit back off the road, down a side road and you can't get a look at the actual schools with Google street. Additionally, if you go to Spokeo and look at 345 and 375 Fan Hill Road where Chalk Middle and Fawn Hollow schools are supposed to be, residences are listed with home values. The 345 address is valued at 25.75 million dollars but is listed as having 3 residents, last names are listed. The 375 is also showing as residential property valued at 391K with residents listed.

When you look closely at the fire station at the bottom of Dickenson Drive, if you hover over it, it says "12 Dickenson Dr." The only sign for the elementary school is that small white sign at the bottom of that street. There are no bus stop signs or school crossing signs or slow, school signs.

The address for the fire station is listed as 18 Riverside Rd but when you try to search for that in Google maps, it points directly behind the station in the wooded area, not on the road.

If you look up schools on mapquest it shows Sandy Hook "12 Dickenson Dr." but points to the exact area where the sign is, not where the school actually sits.

None of the streets surrounding the schools (both in Sandy Hook and Monroe) can be viewed on Google maps (street option).

I think the structures are either old, abandoned schools or stations for the gas lines or structures created for FEMA training. It's hard to know. I believe the reason they had to create a new location to move the 400 (or is it 600?) kids is because if they didn't exist they couldn't place them in the other Newtown schools, which would have been the most logical thing to do, right?

Neither school has been filmed at all, no photos or camera crews.

All of the film crews, crowds of people, etc were around the fire station "staging area", no one was anywhere near the school.

[MNeagle]

Great job sunshine. Did you catch where they "renamed" Chalk Middle Hill School to "Sandy Hook Elementary"? (http://news.yahoo.com/connecticut-students-escaped-massacre-return-class-school-215010975.html) WHY would you carry over that name/association?? And there's a huge difference between Elementary & Middle schools!

[Twisted Titan]

So this dude who effectively took alex jones behind the woodshed

Now he Is going to magically believe that this is a lone gunman

That the gubbermint is incable of killing 20 kids yet they have no problem murdering over 120,000 infants in Iraq.

That someone can lose their child And the whole family can be smiling with the president 96 hours later and the best you can muster up is said person is a "dick"

You need to hang up your patriot hat.....cause ya dont know shit.

It also was very telling that he effectively deconstructed AJ yet he would not call him a Agent Provacature and when others did pick that up

He releases another vid just calling AJ stupid.



Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[sunshine05]

Great job sunshine. Did you catch where they "renamed" Chalk Middle Hill School to "Sandy Hook Elementary"? (http://news.yahoo.com/connecticut-students-escaped-massacre-return-class-school-215010975.html) WHY would you carry over that name/association?? And there's a huge difference between Elementary & Middle schools!

I know, especially since they said they didn't even know what they were going to do with the original school. Plus, this is in a different town, to name it Sandy Hook is ridiculous. Not to mention that there would have been meetings and votes about changing the name. None of this makes sense.

It was also creepy how they said they planned to duplicate everything, same paint color, same pics on the walls, etc. Why? That would be like losing the family pet and trying to pass off a new one as the original. So weird. It doesn't even make sense. How does that in any way help the kids?

[MNeagle]

It could be so there's an actual school to see? Not the "front" building they protrayed? Plus it keeps the legend alive?

[sunshine05]

It could be so there's an actual school to see? Not the "front" building they protrayed? Plus it keeps the legend alive?

But we didn't get to see that one either. Well, they showed an image of what they claim is the school but that could be anything.

[collector]

I wish there was someone in that area that could check out the location. All that's available is a bunch videos with bad actors - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itX1AI8Z-nM

[joboo]

^ gawd, Rabbi Dawstein shreds the remainder of what little cred he may have once ever had.

SHAME on Dawstein!
SHAME on Dawstein!! :(

Rabbi Ryan Dawstein Brags: “My Family Killed Nazis for Zion During WWII” (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2013/01/02/rabbi-ryan-dawstein-brags-my-family-killed-nazis-for-zion-during-wwii/)

Kosher Crybaby Ryan Dawstein: “ZCF is a Neo-Nazi Hate Site! Oy Vey!” (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/12/04/kosher-crybaby-ryan-dawstein-zcf-is-a-neo-nazi-hate-site-oy-vey/)

Kosher Crybaby, Ryan Dawson, Blows a Gasket (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/12/03/kosher-crybaby-ryan-dawson-blows-a-gasket/)

Are you referring to the missile hitting the pentagon thing?

Before I click on any of the links, are any of them not ZCF?

Even though that 22 yr old kid might have correct info...I don't want hate site traffic on my internet connection.

[joboo]

So this dude who effectively took alex jones behind the woodshed

Now he Is going to magically believe that this is a lone gunman

That the gubbermint is incable of killing 20 kids yet they have no problem murdering over 120,000 infants in Iraq.

That someone can lose their child And the whole family can be smiling with the president 96 hours later and the best you can muster up is said person is a "dick"

You need to hang up your patriot hat.....cause ya dont know shit.

It also was very telling that he effectively deconstructed AJ yet he would not call him a Agent Provacature and when others did pick that up

He releases another vid just calling AJ stupid.



Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.


You're injecting information that is not there to suit what you want to believe. This is specifically what he's talking about.

How many people do you think are in on it? It would have to be hundreds of people. The kids aren't dead? The parents are actors? How insane is that?

[joboo]

If the parents are acting (or staged actors)...where are the kids?

Teachers, friends, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, grandparents, cousins, neighbors?

They're all in on it?

[Glass]

But we didn't get to see that one either. Well, they showed an image of what they claim is the school but that could be anything.

I'm not inclined to think it isn't a school. What I wondered when I first saw the school was that is looked like it wasn't an active school because it looked run down. Buildings get old and school buildings generally get used well beyond they're use by date in most cases so that's explainable. That the school was on the way out to make room for a gas pipeline is an interesting situation of itself.

[collector]

If the parents are acting (or staged actors)...where are the kids?

Teachers, friends, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, grandparents, cousins, neighbors?

They're all in on it?

Who said those are the names of kids that are actually dead? Little Joey Smith died, son of the Smiths of Newtown Ct. No address, contact phone number and no neighbors recognize the family - so what, right? They're being protected from paprazzi and media scrutiny by sheriff's deputies because the Feds care - right?

All the kids in little Joey's class - dead, teacher - dead, school records, video surveilance tapes - all sealed... We've allowed this bullshit since the OKC assault

[joboo]

Who said those are the names of kids that are actually dead? Little Joey Smith died, son of the Smiths of Newtown Ct. No address, contact phone number and no neighbors recognize the family - so what, right? They're being protected from paprazzi and media scrutiny by sheriff's deputies because the Feds care - right?

So X number of kids died, their names are listed all over the place, and none of the teachers, parents, friends etc... etc... etc... would know anything about it, or realize it?

Do you think that is possible? If so, how?

Who went missing in the school? How does one cover that up?

[sunshine05]

So X number of kids died, their names, and pictures are listed all over the place, and none of the teachers, parents, friends etc... etc... etc... would know anything about it, or realize it?

Do you think that is possible? If so, how?

Do you realize how easy it is to create a photo of a person with software? The parent actors are actors because they didn't really lose a child. The friends, aunts, uncles and grandparents - more actors. They aren't very good at it, probably because they aren't really actors. They could be people willing to do this in exchange for not serving time in prison or paying a lot of back taxes or they could just be government agents. There are many possibilities.

I don't know exactly how they do this but I can tell you that this incident isn't the first time I've seen signs of fake victims.

[joboo]

Do you realize how easy it is to create a photo of a person with software? The parent actors are actors because they didn't really lose a child. The friends, aunts, uncles and grandparents - more actors. They aren't very good at it, probably because they aren't really actors. They could be people willing to do this in exchange for not serving time in prison or paying a lot of back taxes or they could just be government agents. There are many possibilities.

I don't know exactly how they do this but I can tell you that this incident isn't the first time I've seen signs of fake victims.

So you think everyone is just pretending. All those people?

Does that sound remotely logical to you?

So they didn't shoot the kids, just made them up, and convinced hundreds of people to go along with it?

Why go through all that extravagant fakery when you can just shoot?

[MNeagle]

With no end to donations, Newtown sets up infrastructure to sort gifts, assign volunteers (http://www.startribune.com/nation/185801922.html?page=all&prepage=1&c=y#continue)

[joboo]

So how do you convince an entire school, and everyone connected to it, their friends disappeared when they didn't?

In the same regard, how do you prevent an entire school, and everyone connected to it, from realizing nobody is dead, or missing?

...and if they're missing, how do you get all those people to suddenly become actors, and never talk about it. Hundreds of people.

What kind of "op" would that be to think of doing?

[mamboni]

So X number of kids died, their names are listed all over the place, and none of the teachers, parents, friends etc... etc... etc... would know anything about it, or realize it?

Do you think that is possible? If so, how?

Who went missing in the school? How does one cover that up?

Do you personally know any of the victims? Yes or no?

Can you post one video with a neighbor discussing one of the victims in detail, as a close acquaintance or friend?

[joboo]

Do you personally know any of the victims? Yes or no?

Can you post one video with a neighbor discussing one of the victims in detail, as a close acquaintance or friend?

But that doesn't prove anything other than they weren't put on TV.

How is it possible to control that many people forever?

When coming up with an idea for an "op" would that seem realistic to you? An entire school, and all those connected to it?

Why bother to fake so many deaths, and hope out of hundreds of people nobody says anything?

Why not just do it?

Why bother to fake any of the deaths?

[mamboni]

But that doesn't prove anything other than they weren't put on TV.

How is it possible to control that many people forever?

When coming up with an idea for an "op" would that seem realistic to you? An entire school, and all those connected to it?

Why bother to fake so many deaths, and hope out of hundreds of people nobody says anything?

Why not just do it?

Why bother to fake any of the deaths?

Good, you admit to knowing nothing more about the shootings than what has been reported on the MSM. So you know nothing of fact and only MSM-approved info. In short, you know nothing of substance. So shut your piehole unless you have anything useful to add. A hypothesis, that shooting was a hoax, is being examined. As no one has seen a single victim's body, photos of the crime scene, and there is no eye witness to the purported shootings, and the victims are just photos on a TV screen, I say the hoax hypothesis remains viable until disproven.

[joboo]

Good, you admit to knowing nothing more about the shootings than what has been reported on the MSM. So you know nothing of fact and only MSM-approved info. In short, you know nothing of substance. So shut your piehole unless you have anything useful to add. A hypothesis, that shooting was a hoax, is being examined. As no one has seen a single victim's body, photos of the crime scene, and there is no eye witness to the purported shootings, and the victims are just photos on a TV screen, I say the hoax hypothesis remains viable until disproven.

It doesn't need to have anything to do with me.

If you can't logistically answer the questions what else is there?

If you can't use logic to deduce anything obvious, something is definitely wrong somewhere.

It would help if you were able to at least remain civil in the process of coming to a better understanding. If you're a doctor you should know this.

Do you think it's even possible to mind control an entire school, and everyone connected to it, is what it all boils down to.

That much is a given. It will never change if one was to believe the fakery hypothesis.

You simply can't toss away one reality to suit another.

[mamboni]

It doesn't need to have anything to do with me.

If you can't logistically answer the questions what else is there?

If you can't use logic to deduce anything obvious, something is definitely wrong somewhere.

It would help if you were able to at least remain civil in the process of coming to a better understanding. If you're a doctor you should know this.

Do you think it's even possible to mind control an entire school, and everyone connected to it, is what it all boils down to.

That much is a given. It will never change if one was to believe the fakery hypothesis.

You simply can't toss away one reality to suit another.

What do you know about the school, or the community? You don't know what is happening on the ground. Stop constructing a massive strawman of naysaying.

[Rubberchicken]

jooboi, please stop the with statist based argument. Thanks

[sunshine05]

But that doesn't prove anything other than they weren't put on TV.

How is it possible to control that many people forever?

When coming up with an idea for an "op" would that seem realistic to you? An entire school, and all those connected to it?

Why bother to fake so many deaths, and hope out of hundreds of people nobody says anything?

Why not just do it?

Why bother to fake any of the deaths?

"They" need a lot of help to pull off these things. If people believe no one will get hurt, don't you think they will be more inclined to help? This is just like Operation Northwoods.

I posted a few pages back about the association of one of the victim's fundraisers to the film industry. They clearly have a globalist agenda. Some people will go along with anything if they believe it will further their agenda. There is still a lot of research to be done but follow the money. If you look at where the donations are going you can get a clearer picture of who is behind these events.

I can't answer all of the questions about how exactly they do it, but you are under the impression that all of these people disappeared and the others just go along with it. What if the school was set up so that everyone didn't know every student in the school. I mean, some of the teachers who allegedly died weren't even listed as school staff. I don't think any of them were listed except for the psychologist.

[joboo]

What do you know about the school, or the community? You don't know what is happening on the ground. Stop constructing a massive strawman of naysaying.

So then do you think the entire school, and community is in on it?

Certain factors of reality remain constant despite the details of what the media has told you.

That is not naysing, or "massive strawman".

A certain level of common sense has to be addressed when coming to a conclusion. Don't you think?

[Horn]

Could be the "one" that got away lead to many of the others getting involuntarily "placed" in the witness protection program.

How they might become some sacrificial lambs at satanic rituals later on remains unseen.

[joboo]

"They" need a lot of help to pull off these things. If people believe no one will get hurt, don't you think they will be more inclined to help? This is just like Operation Northwoods.

I posted a few pages back about the association of one of the victim's fundraisers to the film industry. They clearly have a globalist agenda. Some people will go along with anything if they believe it will further their agenda. There is still a lot of research to be done but follow the money. If you look at where the donations are going you can get a clearer picture of who is behind these events.

I can't answer all of the questions about how exactly they do it, but you are under the impression that all of these people disappeared and the others just go along with it. What if the school was set up so that everyone didn't know every student in the school. I mean, some of the teachers who allegedly died weren't even listed as school staff. I don't think any of them were listed except for the psychologist.

That all sounds good, but it does nothing to come to terms with the reality of where are the kids, and how does one mind control an entire community over missing children.

Where are they? Are they still there? If they put actors in, how could nobody notice those aren't the parents? It can't be both ways.

This are daily living realities that transcend any kind of possible mind control scenario.

[Horn]

that all sounds good, but it does nothing to come to terms with the reality of where are the kids, and how does one mind control an entire community over missing children.

Where are they? Are they still there? If they put actors in, how could nobody notice those aren't the parents? It can't be both ways.

This are daily living realities that transcend any kind of possible mind control scenario.

dhs?

[joboo]

....

Probably not a good idea to hotlink that site from here.

[sunshine05]

That all sounds good, but it does nothing to come to terms with the reality of where are the kids, and how does one mind control an entire community over missing children.

Where are they? Are they still there? If they put actors in, how could nobody notice those aren't the parents? It can't be both ways.

This are daily living realities that transcend any kind of possible mind control scenario.

This will be my last reply because I'm repeating myself at this point. There are NO dead kids so there is nothing to hide. The parents are actors. Until I see evidence to convince me otherwise, that is what I believe.

[joboo]

This will be my last reply because I'm repeating myself at this point. There are NO dead kids so there is nothing to hide. The parents are actors. Until I see evidence to convince me otherwise, that is what I believe.

You're talking about mind controlling an entire community with no solid proof whatsoever to come to that conclusion.

You realize that thought process is insane right?

[Horn]

Probably not a good idea to hotlink that site from here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBb_3p4vasY

[Santa]

Fuck! What an asshole!

[midnight rambler]

Fuck! What an asshole!

Yeah, that was really unfathomable.

[Glass]

You're talking about mind controlling an entire community with no solid proof whatsoever to come to that conclusion.

You realize that thought process is insane right?

I guess the question is, how big is this school community? And I'm talking only about the school and it's catchment area. Not the whole of the surrounding township. For example, I live in a city of about 2.5 million people. There are thousands of primary schools and I don't know any of them other than maybe the ones I went to or the ones that get in the news because they have special ability students or something.

Anyway, there have been interviews with kids who were in the building and came out. We could assume they were students from that school or maybe there was a drill on that day and the kids were shipped in from another school. Getting a bit far fetched. Did anyone ask the kids if this was their regular school or did everyone assume that's their regular school. No one thought of it at the time. It's a bit far fetched.

I remember seeing wellaware1's presentation on the actors specifically in this event. I think he dug up some people who you could reasonably say were the actual people interviewed as parents of kids at the school when it seems on his info, that these same people had appeared in interviews at other tragic shootings as parents of the victims in those events.

Caveat: some of wellaware1's stuff looks compelling in maybe 3 events like these BUT some of his stuff is clearly not supportable. The winkler claim for instance.

But the claims about the Ryans really being members of the Greenberg Family and having appeared previously on TV as parents of victims seems pretty solid. The claim that Mrs Ryan is the attorney for the Aurora shooting is not supportable. The women look extremely alike but I think there maybe 10 years age difference. Nothing to say the could not be sibblings. Just nothing supporting this ATM.

Someone posted a video earlier with a local resident and he was saying that no one knows these children shown as killed during this event. He says, well people come and go, (when the kids reach grade 5 they have to go to anther school), so it's possible people might leave the area when that happens but he says, these families are not here (in the community) and he doesn't know where they are or why they are not there.

[joboo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBb_3p4vasY


Some sites have it as a policy. It draws attention unnecessarily. Why roll out the red carpet right to the dinner plate is the thought process. i.e. why make it easier for those orgs to collect the data they are specifically looking for.

[PatColo]

http://noliesradio.org/images/wtc7small.gif

So you think WTC7 was a controlled demolition eh?

Okay, then where's the det cord? Show me the det cord, or you've got nothing!

Solve the crime completely [rule #14 (http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050116064744556)], otherwise zion.gov's (http://criminalstate.com/) official version is correct!

:D

Rant for Rabbi Dawstein here, just replace "Officer Vance" with "Rabbi Dawstein" - advance to 2:15 for the executive summary.
< 6 mins, NSFW!! Download


(http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/ddgdn6wwwx/giuliani_rant_2012.12.18.mp3)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNfesyWUeZk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNfesyWUeZk
(http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/ddgdn6wwwx/giuliani_rant_2012.12.18.mp3)

[joboo]

I guess the question is, how big is this school community? And I'm talking only about the school and it's catchment area. Not the whole of the surrounding township. For example, I live in a city of about 2.5 million people. There are thousands of primary schools and I don't know any of them other than maybe the ones I went to or the ones that get in the news because they have special ability students or something.

Anyway, there have been interviews with kids who were in the building and came out. We could assume they were students from that school or maybe there was a drill on that day and the kids were shipped in from another school. Getting a bit far fetched. Did anyone ask the kids if this was their regular school or did everyone assume that's their regular school. No one thought of it at the time. It's a bit far fetched.

I remember seeing wellaware1's presentation on the actors specifically in this event. I think he dug up some people who you could reasonably say were the actual people interviewed as parents of kids at the school when it seems on his info, that these same people had appeared in interviews at other tragic shootings as parents of the victims in those events.

Caveat: some of wellaware1's stuff looks compelling in maybe 3 events like these BUT some of his stuff is clearly not supportable. The winkler claim for instance.

But the claims about the Ryans really being members of the Greenberg Family and having appeared previously on TV as parents of victims seems pretty solid. The claim that Mrs Ryan is the attorney for the Aurora shooting is not supportable. The women look extremely alike but I think there maybe 10 years age difference. Nothing to say the could not be sibblings. Just nothing supporting this ATM.

Someone posted a video earlier with a local resident and he was saying that no one knows these children shown as killed during this event. He says, well people come and go, (when the kids reach grade 5 they have to go to anther school), so it's possible people might leave the area when that happens but he says, these families are not here (in the community) and he doesn't know where they are or why they are not there.

If you're going to pull something like that off, why bother to fake anything, and hope it sticks across hundreds, or more, people?

It's not only impossible to do, it's crazy to even try, and think you can.

Why not just actually do it, and deal with maybe a dozen people?

All this talk about actors, kids being alive, and the entire family, friends, relatives all needing to be in on it...it's so far out there it simply fell off the edge into the abyss.

[Horn]

Some sites have it as a policy. It draws attention unnecessarily. Why roll out the red carpet right to the dinner plate is the thought process. i.e. why make it easier for those orgs to collect the data they are specifically looking for.

You're not getting promoted to head surgeon, Joe!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnx95KyQEAA

[PatColo]

Brother Nathanael: What Really Happened At Sandy Hook? (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=785)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDtX2OiQ00Y

[mamboni]

ADL/SPLC have tasked their mole to scuttle this thread. This is most encouraging - we must be moving in the right direction vis-a-vis the hoax hypothesis.

[joboo]

:D

Rant for Rabbi Dawstein here, just replace "Officer Vance" with "Rabbi Dawstein" - advance to 2:15 for the executive summary.
< 6 mins, NSFW!! Download


(http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/ddgdn6wwwx/giuliani_rant_2012.12.18.mp3)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNfesyWUeZk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNfesyWUeZk
(http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/ddgdn6wwwx/giuliani_rant_2012.12.18.mp3)

You completely fabricated I post I never made at all.

I know I've asked before, but are you able to act like an adult, and a person of integrity without coming off as an unstable person ranting on with ad-hominen?

There was also a story on a crazy person interviewed that claimed he was Lanza's uncle, and Lanza was on fanapt. Check that guy out....looney toons. Found out later he made it all up. Maybe he's related to the guy in your video?

So what does it prove ultimately? That crazy people exist, and like to be on camera, and the media will interview them if they make themselves available as "knowing something". Does it prove more than that? No.

[collector]

So X number of kids died, their names are listed all over the place, and none of the teachers, parents, friends etc... etc... etc... would know anything about it, or realize it?

Do you think that is possible? If so, how?

Who went missing in the school? How does one cover that up?

Just like Mamboni said - have you seen any videos of neighbors or friends being interviewed saying - their kids used to play with my kids, or those kids were at my house for a play-date or birthday party? All I see is bad acting by people associated with the screen actors guild and laughing parents pretending to cry with no tears, red eyes or anger. How about the anger of not being allowed to see your kid for the last time? Sealed casket, no viewing allowed - wtf ?? This is theater - plain and simple http://crisisactors.org/ . Acting so bad that there are threats of prosecution for challenging the official fable.

Believe what you like but until concrete, verifiable proof is given, 'm not buying any of this drama

[joboo]

ADL/SPLC have tasked their mole to scuttle this thread. This is most encouraging - we must be moving in the right direction vis-a-vis the hoax hypothesis.

Here we go again.

How did you become a doctor? Aren't you supposed to be logical, and level headed both by study, and profession?

There is no proof of mass mind control, yet you default on the side of just believing it to be the case without any solid evidence.

It really is crazy.

[joboo]

Just like Mamboni said - have you seen any videos of neighbors or friends being interviewed saying - their kids used to play with my kids, or those kids were at my house for a play-date or birthday party? All I see is bad acting by people associated with the screen actors guild and laughing parents pretending to cry with no tears, red eyes or anger. How about the anger of not being allowed to see your kid for the last time? Sealed casket, no viewing allowed - wtf ?? This is theater - plain and simple http://crisisactors.org/ . Acting so bad that there are threats of prosecution for challenging the official fable.

Believe what you like but until concrete, verifiable proof is given, 'm not buying any of this drama

So it all seems strange. The MSM is a circus show. People are strange indeed.

You need to ask yourself if it's all faked, how are they mind controlling hundreds of people for the rest of their lives?

That's the crux of the argument.

Is it possible to mind control so many people, when they could have just sent in a few guys and actually did it.

Why fake the deaths?

Some massive elaborate uber mind control scheme on an entire town, v.s sending in a couple guys to actually do it.

[mamboni]

Here we go again.

How did you become a doctor? Aren't you supposed to be logical, and level headed, both by study, and profession?

There is no proof of mass mind control, yet you default on the side of just believing it to be the case without any solid evidence.

It really is crazy.

Was I talking to you? Mass mind control? What are you, delusional tonite?

[collector]

But that doesn't prove anything other than they weren't put on TV.

How is it possible to control that many people forever?

When coming up with an idea for an "op" would that seem realistic to you? An entire school, and all those connected to it?



Why bother to fake so many deaths, and hope out of hundreds of people nobody says anything?

Why not just do it?

Why bother to fake any of the deaths?

Why bother to fake any deaths?...gun control agenda?

20 kids dead = 40 parents + approximately 160 grandparents = siblings, cousins, uncles etc + 80 neighbors + friends and teachers yet NO ONE other than these actors are being interviewed - seriously, are you really buying this?

How about the decision to stage everything at a firehouse - all decided in less than 1 hour? Why? For what purpose? The guy inside is dead and the runners in the woods have been apprehended - why have everything happen at the firehouse? What if there was a fire - let houses burn?

[collector]

So it all seems strange. The MSM is a circus show. People are strange indeed.

You need to ask yourself if it's all faked, how are they mind controlling hundreds of people for the rest of their lives?

That's the crux of the argument.

Is it possible to mind control so many people, when they could have just sent in a few guys and actually did it.

Why fake the deaths?

Some massive elaborate uber mind control scheme on an entire town, v.s sending in a couple guys to actually do it.

Again, who's being "mind controlled"? How hard would it be to fake the deaths of people that never existed? If you told me that a kid died in my neighborhood but didn't give me his address, how would I know that he ever existed?

[joboo]

Was I talking to you? Mass mind control? What are you, delusional tonite?

You were.

I know how you feel about what you think I am because I try to make you think about things.

You have made it very clear.

[joboo]

Again, who's being "mind controlled"? How hard would it be to fake the deaths of people that never existed? If you told me that a kid died in my neighborhood but didn't give me his address, how would I know that he ever existed?


Kids that don't exist at the school, or live in the community.....and nobody noticed.

cmon...

[midnight rambler]

You were.

I know how you feel about what you think I am because I try to make you think about things.

You have made it very clear.

I have yet to see any evidence or eyewitness testimony which would hold up in court. But gee, since the shooter is dead we don't need to have any court hearings. How convenient.

[joboo]

Why bother to fake any deaths?...gun control agenda?

20 kids dead = 40 parents + approximately 160 grandparents = siblings, cousins, uncles etc + 80 neighbors + friends and teachers yet NO ONE other than these actors are being interviewed - seriously, are you really buying this?

How about the decision to stage everything at a firehouse - all decided in less than 1 hour? Why? For what purpose? The guy inside is dead and the runners in the woods have been apprehended - why have everything happen at the firehouse? What if there was a fire - let houses burn?

But it will never come out forever after the fact....despite. Sounds like a great plan.

Having no CIA/FBI training...would you come up with a plan like that, and think it's a good idea?

Would anyone?

[mamboni]

But it will never come out forever after the fact....despite. Sounds like a great plan.

Having no CIA/FBI training...would you come up with a plan like that, and think it's a good idea?

Would anyone?

When and where did you obtain your CIA/FBI training?

[joboo]

I have yet to see any evidence or eyewitness testimony which would hold up in court. But gee, since the shooter is dead we don't need to have any court hearings. How convenient.


Above convenience, it's also just the reality of matters that the shooters in situations like this end up dead every time because they are shooting at people.

Sure, it's very easy to think something is going on with this event, and very well maybe, but at a certain point the logic pattern sails off into outer space.

[Hatha Sunahara]

All the children who were supposedly gunned down were invented. They never existed. Just like the Arab hijackers on 911. They were invented. Whoever invented them used pictures of other peoples kids to give them identities. The identities are analogous to Mohammed Atta's passport that was found on the street outside the WTC. Nobody knew these kids. Nobody at the school knows the actors who play their parents. I bet if you asked the kids who attend Sandy Hook Elementary school if they had ever spoken with or even seen the dead kids, not a one of them could say yes. That's because all these dead kids never existed except in the media. They are a total fiction. They are a part of a DHS Full Scale Exercise. A simulation. And it is being treated by the media as a real event. If you noticed, all the official pronouncements were made by public 'officials' who are also acting out a script, if they really are public officials. The cops and the medical examiner are 'authorities' but they are also acting. Adam Lanza is most likely a fictional character, as is his brother, mother and father. Who knows Adam Lanza? Did anyone see his body? Did he have any friends?

Whoever is doing this is turning a half baked fiction into a myth. A myth is something you believe because you think everybody else believes it, so it is 'the truth'. You're not supposed to question mythology. If you do, they send the trolls after you.


Hatha

[joboo]

When and where did you obtain your CIA/FBI training?

I posed some very valid questions to this discussion. You don't want to answer them, or really even think about them, so you're left with attacking my credibility as that's all that is available for you at this point.

That's a bit immature no?

Do you act that way when your clients question you?

[mamboni]

Above convenience, it's also just the reality of matters that the shooters in situations like this end up dead every time because they are shooting at people.

Sure, it's very easy to think something is going on with this event, and very well maybe, but at a certain point the logic pattern sails off into outer space.

Except in this case the shooter was shooting at unarmed children and adults - so your comment is idiotic. The shooter decided to off himself per the MSM - how convenient!

[mamboni]

I posed some very valid questions to this discussion. You don't want to answer them, or really even think about them, so you're left with attacking my credibility as that's all that is available for you at this point.

That's a bit immature no?

Then answer my question, Mr. [In]credible.

[collector]

But it will never come out forever after the fact....despite. Sounds like a great plan.

Having no CIA/FBI training...would you come up with a plan like that, and think it's a good idea?

Would anyone?

Plenty of stuff can come out after the fact, if someone dares to risk Federal prosecution - but who will listen?
As far as my training - no, I would not come up with a plan like that, nor would I come up with the plan to mine the Murrah Building hoping that all the explosives would go off and we could blame patsy McVeigh for everything. What's your point?

Worried about the media exposing the scam - yeah, here's an example of GREAT reporting - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZwwzP6ANQo

Some highlights - at 1:50 - Soto's family members said she was shielding 1st graders when she died. I guess they were there or had live video feed to the classroom at the time of the alleged attack
At 2:55 Robbie parker gives his heartfelt speech talking about his incredible daughter yet he talks about her as someone he once met rather than the life he helped create. We also saw the video of him laughing, then going into actor mode in front of the camera, faking some tears without bloodshot eyes.
4:35 - elementary school is no longer a safe place ` selling fear

Believe what you like and if you think the media's to blame for the confusion, that's fine, dismiss everything. The government openly lies to us and says it's for "national security" so if you choose to believe an organization that openly lies, that's fine, just don't tell me that I should as well. Again, if the media's your scapegoat then admit that they're inept, and you'll just believe anything that's told to you by elected or appointed officials. I choose to make my own decisions based on common sense and facts that are verifiable

[joboo]

Except in this case the shooter was shooting at unarmed children and adults - so your comment is idiotic. The shooter decided to off himself per the MSM - how convenient!

So it's also idiotic to think the kid was on a suicide mission shooting up a school...and if he didn't shoot himself the police wouldn't have?

[joboo]

Then answer my question, Mr. [In]credible.

You ultimately didn't ask a credible question, and you know this, and no, no training whatsoever aside from looking at matters impartially without forming conclusions based on what I want to believe despite how incredulous certain aspects of it are.

[joboo]

Plenty of stuff can come out after the fact, if someone dares to risk Federal prosecution - but who will listen?
As far as my training - no, I would not come up with a plan like that, nor would I come up with the plan to mine the Murrah Building hoping that all the explosives would go off and we could blame patsy McVeigh for everything. What's your point?

Worried about the media exposing the scam - yeah, here's an example of GREAT reporting - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZwwzP6ANQo

Some highlights - at 1:50 - Soto's family members said she was shielding 1st graders when she died. I guess they were there or had live video feed to the classroom at the time of the alleged attack
At 2:55 Robbie parker gives his heartfelt speech talking about his incredible daughter yet he talks about her as someone he once met rather than the life he helped create. We also saw the video of him laughing, then going into actor mode in front of the camera, faking some tears without bloodshot eyes.
4:35 - elementary school is no longer a safe place ` selling fear

Believe what you like and if you think the media's to blame for the confusion, that's fine, dismiss everything. The government openly lies to us and says it's for "national security" so if you choose to believe an organization that openly lies, that's fine, just don't tell me that I should as well. Again, if the media's your scapegoat then admit that they're inept, and you'll just believe anything that's told to you by elected or appointed officials. I choose to make my own decisions based on common sense and facts that are verifiable

The fact still remains you have hundreds of people that are living 24/7 their entire lives with a different reality. Fabricating people who simply don't exist in other peoples lives is not a one off open/closed event.

That's quite the scheme to attempt to pull off when it is far easier to just do it covertly, and be done with it.

It's crazy actually.

[collector]

You ultimately didn't ask a credible question, and you know this, and no, no training whatsoever aside from looking at matters impartially without forming conclusions based on what I want to believe despite how incredulous certain aspects of it are.

Great pissing contest - I think you've got the lead - yay !!

[midnight rambler]

So it's also idiotic to think the kid was on a suicide mission shooting up a school...and if he didn't shoot himself the police wouldn't have?

And since Adam Lanza was on a suicide mission he concerned himself with destroying his computer hard drive so no one would be able to see or even have a clue as to who he really was and what was going on in his head. Yeah, this makes perfect sense. Also, waiting for his mother to come back from a 2 day trip to NH so he could kill her too makes absolutely perfect sense as well. No need to question any of that, it's all totally believable. /sarc

[collector]

The fact still remains you have hundreds of people that are living 24/7 their entire lives with a different reality. Fabricating peole who simply don't exist in other peoples lives is not a one off open/closed event.

And your point is ...?

[mamboni]

And your point is ...?


......must scuttle thread.......must scuttle thread........must scuttle thread......

[vacuum]

- No witnesses
- Actors on tv (more than one)
- No bodies
- Mysterious 2nd and 3rd gunmen totally ignored
- No pictures of broken glass or anything
- No surveillance footage
- Inconsistent reports of guns
- No motive
- Unclear about family including mother and brother - many things
- New Sandy Hook school building supposedly negotiated on day of shooting
- Taking down facebook pages of people who question anything
- No injured but survived
- Bodies were left to sit for days
- Training drill at the same time, 25 minutes away
- Reports of fake pictures used for children, authorities being at his house before the shooting occurred, early death page on facebook
- 15 officers not returning to work for ptsd


I'm just not buying it. Until they release some evidence, it didn't happen as far as I'm concerned.

[mamboni]

- No witnesses
- Actors on tv (more than one)
- No bodies
- Mysterious 2nd and 3rd gunmen totally ignored
- No pictures of broken glass or anything
- No surveillance footage
- Inconsistent reports of guns
- No motive
- Unclear about family including mother and brother - many things
- New Sandy Hook school building supposedly negotiated on day of shooting
- Taking down facebook pages of people who question anything
- No injured but survived
- Bodies were left to sit for days
- Training drill at the same time, 25 minutes away
- Reports of fake pictures used for children, authorities being at his house before the shooting occurred, early death page on facebook
- 15 officers not returning to work for ptsd


I'm just not buying it. Until they release some evidence, it didn't happen as far as I'm concerned.

A fine laundry list - and I would add one more thing: not a spot of blood anywhere! No blood stained sheets, uniforms, shirts, nothing. I have never seen such a clean and tidy crime scene where dozens were supposedly killed with dozens of bullets.

[PatColo]

you completely fabricated i post i never made at all.

I know i've asked before, but are you able to act like an adult, and a person of integrity without coming off as an unstable person ranting on with ad-hominen?

huh?!?:o

In #676 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65846-new-shooting-Newtown-Conn-details-breaking&p=601570&viewfull=1#post601570) I submitted a pretend post from hypothetical user named 'joobo' for purposes of making an analogy; again:


http://noliesradio.org/images/wtc7small.gif

So you think WTC7 was a controlled demolition eh?

Okay, then where's the det cord? Show me the det cord, or you've got nothing!

Solve the crime completely [rule #14 (http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050116064744556)], otherwise zion.gov's (http://criminalstate.com/) official version is correct!

but joboo, I did compose and sing this song for you, I know you'll enjoy:
http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/xl0e45fc44/hey_joboo.mp3 (http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/xl0e45fc44/hey_jew.mp3) :D

[midnight rambler]

- No injured but survived
- Bodies were left to sit for days

There were possibly two (but at least one) wounded survivor(s), the two women in the front office area shot in the legs/feet, but otherwise it was highly unusual that there were no survivors. Recall that there were early eyewitness reports of two children being carried out by LEOs and rushed to the hospital (in patrol cars?) where they were DOA.

And reportedly the bodies were moved at 1AM Sat. 12/15 (according to the ME's nooz conference) after the media reported that the bodies might remain in place through Sun or Mon (head fake).

I'm not doubting that people died, it's just all very bizarre, apparently intended to suit an agenda. Way too many things that fit just too perfectly and other things that are unlikely to ever be reconciled.

[vacuum]

There were possibly two (but at least one) wounded survivor(s), the two women in the front office area shot in the legs/feet, but otherwise
Why the hell is it still unclear how many were wounded? I just don't understand why there is so much confusion about such a simple thing. It's something that we should all know from day 1, but like everything else, we're totally in the dark.

[joboo]

And since Adam Lanza was on a suicide mission he concerned himself with destroying his computer hard drive so no one would be able to see or even have a clue as to who he really was and what was going on in his head. Yeah, this makes perfect sense. Also, waiting for his mother to come back from a 2 day trip to NH so he could kill her too makes absolutely perfect sense as well. No need to question any of that, it's all totally believable. /sarc

Again your logic is running down a rabbit hole because you specifically want to see it that way.

Seems the guy wanted to be remembered for something, and go out in a blaze of glory. He wanted legacy.

What if he did things on his computer he didn't want to be remembered for, perhaps ashamed of?

Not hard to imagine anyone doing that at all. It isn't hard to question it, it's just that you aren't fully.

[joboo]

......must scuttle thread.......must scuttle thread........must scuttle thread......

And you scuttled all the questions I asked while I have answered every one posed to me. Grow up. I can't believe you're a doctor. You really don't act like one.

[joboo]

huh?!?:o

In #676 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65846-new-shooting-Newtown-Conn-details-breaking&p=601570&viewfull=1#post601570) I submitted a pretend post from hypothetical user named 'joobo' for purposes of making an analogy; again:

but joboo, I did compose and sing this song for you, I know you'll enjoy:
http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/xl0e45fc44/hey_joboo.mp3 (http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/xl0e45fc44/hey_jew.mp3) :D

Correct. You completely fabricated an unrelated post putting hypothetical words in my mouth acting like a child in a sandbox, and you continue to do so.

If you want people to believe you're an irrational thinking person who has a few pegs missing upstairs, you're doing a fine job.

[sunshine05]

"And there was Tricia Gogliettino delivering a gingerbread house to a first-grade class when she came upon five children running down the street screaming "Someone is trying kill us!"

She ushered them into her car, drove them to the police station and sat singing to them as their parents were called, according to her brother, Ridgefield State Rep. John Frey."

Here's yet another version of the kids who "escaped". This time it's 5 kids and the woman drove them to the police station. I wonder if they stopped by Gene Rosen's house to play with stuffed animals and have some juice first?



Read more: http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Newtown-prepares-for-mourning-4121703.php#ixzz2HG4tfzMh

[joboo]

Why has no one has admitted that mind controlling an entire town for life, and the entire world, in a grand scheme of make believe deception is in itself an insane notion over taking the far easier route of deploying a few guys to do some wet work?

Must to be too crazy to think about. ;)

[Horn]

Brother Nathanael: What Really Happened At Sandy Hook? (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=785)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDtX2OiQ00Y

Give'em Hell Brother Nathanial!

[Horn]

joboo apparently contracted joekingitis

[vacuum]

Why has no one has admitted that mind controlling an entire town for life, and the entire world, in a grand scheme of make believe deception is in itself an insane notion over taking the far easier route of deploying a few guys to do some wet work?

Must to be too crazy to think about. ;)

I don't think we know anything with certainty. But we have to look at where the evidence leads us. It could be entirely real, could be entirely fake, or could be a combination of the two. I think there are too many contradictions to say it's entirely real. Then the question becomes, how fake was it? Were children killed by trained blackops in the school? Were children abducted from the school? Were all the children real, or were some real and some not? There is a broad set of possibilities.

[joboo]

joboo apparently contracted joekingitis

It's not that at all. It really boils down to the obvious of what I have already stated.

If you think it's easier to mind control the whole world with a grand scheme of make believe photo shopped fairy tale people v.s. a few agents, in and out the back door with a van, then there's really nothing else to be said that will instill common sense.

It's a really valid question, and if you don't see that for what it is at face value, something else is going on, and it's not related to common sense.

No one here has been man enough to admit that, and that speaks for itself.

I make people think...I ask questions...I'm the "bad guy". Burn the witch! ;)

[joboo]

I don't think we know anything with certainty. But we have to look at where the evidence leads us. It could be entirely real, could be entirely fake, or could be a combination of the two. I think there are too many contradictions to say it's entirely real. Then the question becomes, how fake was it? Were children killed by trained blackops in the school? Were children abducted from the school? Were all the children real, or were some real and some not? There is a broad set of possibilities.

The media was in such a ru$h to get the story out, the facts are all over the place. Were the parents grief counseled, and given medication? Could be.

One thing we do know. The end result is a gun control agenda for a gun that seems wasn't even used.

[Horn]

It's not that at all. It really boils down to the obvious of what I have already stated.

If you think it's easier to mind control the whole world with a grand scheme of make believe photo shopped fairy tale people v.s. a few agents, in and out the back door with a van, then there's really nothing else to be said that will instill common sense.

It's a really valid question, and if you don't see that for what it is at face value, something else is going on, and it's not related to common sense.

No one here has been man enough to admit that, and that speaks for itself.

I make people think...I ask questions...I'm the "bad guy". Burn the witch! ;)

And I've already pointed you to the site that will make all the above happen under the cover of darkness.

Nothing escapes once the matter becomes of "National Security".

You also have the escaped terrorist being sought after in some of the early clips on the scene... being named as a "second shooter".

[joboo]

And I've already pointed you to the site that will make all the above happen under the cover of darkness.

Nothing escapes once the matter becomes of "National Security".

You also have the escaped terrorist being sought after in some of the early clips on the scene... being named as a "second shooter".

I'm a little hesitant to click on links after the DHS one and the ZCF ones. Fortunately for DHS, I have a referral blocker so they won't know my IP linked in from this thread. ;)

Aside from everything, while everyone is here debating the grassy knoll (aka the new pentagon missile conundrum), there's a gun control agenda about to be written into law.

Seriously though...I think they used Adobe PDF Pro v9 to manipulate the fake pics of the girl with the president. If they used Photoshop it would be more obvious to spot the layers, and pixelation.

[EE_]

$1,000 to turn in your neighbor


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S_rY8ZUbrnU

[vacuum]

Aside from everything, while everyone is here debating the grassy knoll (aka the new pentagon missile conundrum), there's a gun control agenda about to be written into law.
I actually view the possibility of this being fake, and that conclusion being arrived at by a lot of people to be bigger than the gun debate. Here's why. In other (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66333-If-They-Come-for-Your-Guns-Do-You-Have-a-Responsibility-to-Fight-MUST-READ!) threads (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66337-NC-Police-Lieutenant-Warns-of-Martial-Law-Coming-Soon), I've brought up the idea that we are quickly moving to a situation where we have to choose the lesser of two evils. This is what's always done...they get us to accept doing something bad to ourselves by giving us the option between bad and worse.

The possibility that the gun issue could be eclipsed by the mass realization of a fake event transcends the plans of the armed civil war within the country. It's called the population waking up and saying enough: no more fake wars, no more fake laws, no more fake money, no more fake science, no more fake religion. It is not acceptable for me to submit to you, it is not acceptable for me to fight you, it is not acceptable for me to comply with you. I won't believe you, I won't fear you.

That's where the real change in the future will come from.

The fact that they either can't, or refuse, to publish the evidence for the tragedy that will give them their gun control makes no sense. I won't comply with them any longer. I won't believe anything. If they choose to provide evidence then I will accept it and accept whatever the evidence suggests. However, if they choose not to provide evidence, I will not believe them. It's their choice. I can't see why they wouldn't want to, but I'm not going to voluntarily twist my own perception of truth for them any more. I'm not bigoted, rather their AAA credit rating as far as believability has dropped so far over the last few years that I'm forced to take this position till they can show me the money. Stop telling me they're good for it.

[Horn]

Aside from everything, while everyone is here debating the grassy knoll (aka the new pentagon missile conundrum), there's a gun control agenda about to be written into law.


Second shooter arrested near Sandy Hook elementary school



Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/118707/Second_shooter_arrested_near_Sandy_Hook_elementary _school/#ixzz2HGW59zNQ



Let us revisit the beginning of the thread & get back on track, with the second "terrorist" escaping.

[Glass]

This goes for 24 minutes. It covers 2 interviews with Parent couples who lost a child. I made an immediate observation about mother #2. Couple #1 are of the same thread but I don't think it's so obvious. IMO their origins are from a different part of the world than Mother #2.

Watch all of it if you wish, otherwise forward to minute 19 and listen to something else the guy has dug up on the Dispatch audio. The cops know the name of the shooter before they have even entered the building. They have just arrived on scene and they know the shooters name. There is something else there he points out.

I have not heard this before. I will have to go back to the stuff I have and listen some more.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=X1jg0H-MfVY

I'm actually listening to my copy of the Dispatch. The person who called in the shooting to police was a male. I thought it was a teacher at the school and I thought there were only women teachers at the school.

Ok so on my copy of the dispatch at 22:57 you can just hear it being said. There is a lot of noise many times over the top of people speaking.

[JohnQPublic]

^ I don't know TT- this being a psyop, and that being yet another big clue, I don't expect to find any ZSM sources reporting on "all closed caskets". It would only be alt media which would report, and if we imagine it's a psyop again, there would be no real public memorials in most cases to investigate.

Don't know much about this "Morris" guy- Rense & WRH seem to like linking to his vids, but I know nothing of why we should be listening to him- most of his ~5 min spiels I've watched are just moderately insightful. Anyway this one's interesting, reminds me of Rivero's old essay, The Point Of No Return (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/noreturn.html) (about "humiliating us" with in-our-face lies and thus making us more malleable as we fear looking in the mirror at what we've become, are self-loathing at a subconsious level, outside we become the LIARS' greatest supporters-- stockholm syndrome stuff):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj8HrS2aoGc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj8HrS2aoGc

We are required to admire the king's new clothes...

[JohnQPublic]

If you're going to pull something like that off, why bother to fake anything, and hope it sticks across hundreds, or more, people?

It's not only impossible to do, it's crazy to even try, and think you can.

Why not just actually do it, and deal with maybe a dozen people?

All this talk about actors, kids being alive, and the entire family, friends, relatives all needing to be in on it...it's so far out there it simply fell off the edge into the abyss.

Because actually killing people is murder. You can fake a lot of things (i.e., birth certificates), and no one cares. People care when you actually kill someone. At that point, we are no longer talking about actors, but rather murderers.

[JohnQPublic]

Why has no one has admitted that mind controlling an entire town for life, and the entire world, in a grand scheme of make believe deception is in itself an insane notion over taking the far easier route of deploying a few guys to do some wet work?

Must to be too crazy to think about. ;)

Why do you keep saying for life? They only have to get away with it (whatever "it" is) for long enough to accomplish their goals- especially if something bigger and more distracting is coming up...

[PatColo]

The possibility that the gun issue could be eclipsed by the mass realization of a fake event transcends the plans of the armed civil war within the country.

that's the driving force behind 9/11 Truth, which some try to argue is spilt milk and we should move on,
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/463755239_eec0d11ab9.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vMQfeVSYbqk/SqkcIjMWhHI/AAAAAAAAAhI/0bUCUIuivtg/s400/911truth4peace.jpg

...exposing the 9/11 Zi-op ends the fraudulent pretext for war, ends the fraudulent pretext for the Constitution-eviscerating police state rollout domestically.

Not only that, but they try to keep the public on edge today by hoaxing up new fake terror attacks- usually busted at the last second by our diligent & heroic alphabet spook agencies (who also orchestrated the "plots" top to bottom...),

"How To Foil Your Own Terror Plot"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6LGZtjpdJg

"Fake Al Qaeda Actors EXPOSED! Adam Gadahn & Yousef al Khatta" [AKA Adam Pearlman & Joseph Cohen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCKsYHoOlt8

Sandy Hook and the other black Zi-Ops preceding it like Batman and the Sikh Temple events are, like 9/11, the fraudulent pretexts for ramming through the pre-existing agenda of disarming Americans, in preparation for their genocide at the hands of the same black Zi-Op perpetrators-- same joosh-bolshevik/communist (http://truthtellers.org/alerts/jewishactivistscommunism.html) crew who did the same thing to Russia after 1917, prompting Pravda to warn Americans recently, Never Give Up Your Guns. (http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-12-2012/123335-americans_guns-0/) ;)

[joboo]

I actually view the possibility of this being fake, and that conclusion being arrived at by a lot of people to be bigger than the gun debate. Here's why. In other (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66333-If-They-Come-for-Your-Guns-Do-You-Have-a-Responsibility-to-Fight-MUST-READ!) threads (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66337-NC-Police-Lieutenant-Warns-of-Martial-Law-Coming-Soon), I've brought up the idea that we are quickly moving to a situation where we have to choose the lesser of two evils. This is what's always done...they get us to accept doing something bad to ourselves by giving us the option between bad and worse. The possibility that the gun issue could be eclipsed by the mass realization of a fake event transcends the plans of the armed civil war within the country. It's called the population waking up and saying enough: no more fake wars, no more fake laws, no more fake money, no more fake science, no more fake religion. It is not acceptable for me to submit to you, it is not acceptable for me to fight you, it is not acceptable for me to comply with you. I won't believe you, I won't fear you. That's where the real change in the future will come from. The fact that they either can't, or refuse, to publish the evidence for the tragedy that will give them their gun control makes no sense. I won't comply with them any longer. I won't believe anything. If they choose to provide evidence then I will accept it and accept whatever the evidence suggests. However, if they choose not to provide evidence, I will not believe them. It's their choice. I can't see why they wouldn't want to, but I'm not going to voluntarily twist my own perception of truth for them any more. I'm not bigoted, rather their AAA credit rating as far as believability has dropped so far over the last few years that I'm forced to take this position till they can show me the money. Stop telling me they're good for it.

Yes, the plan is to consolidate control over everything as easily as possible. You still have to keep a head level head over it, or at least outwardly be an ambassador for others, and keep away from the fringe associations at every opportunity.

You could spend days debating whether or not they photoshopped make believe people, and pictures of dead people with the president, over other more credible realities, and totally undermine your efforts to anyone that reads it, and thinks you're on to something.

Why drive people away by going straight to crazyville, and dance around that fire, when it ultimately doesn't help anything? The pentagon thing is the same deal. Any solid evidence for a missile? NO....none...zero. Any solid evidence for a plane? YES all kinds, but they didn't release other camera footage, and some windows didn't break, so it was 100% a missile. (facepalm).

This is where people get driven away, and the situation totally undermines itself as looney toons. Same deal with hate based sites. They might have good accurate info also, but people look at that, and roll their eyes as well. It's like shooting yourself in the foot....both feet perhaps.

I'd go so far to say whoever made that president dead girl youtube video is cointel. Total disinfo scenario there. People look at that, roll their eyes and think "Oh boy...yeap.... the conspiracy nuts are at it again."

At a certain point you have to ask yourself, "am I hurting the cause or helping it?"

[joboo]

Why do you keep saying for life? They only have to get away with it (whatever "it" is) for long enough to accomplish their goals- especially if something bigger and more distracting is coming up...

You somehow have to mind control people into thinking children that don't exist, somehow exist. As long as the people you're trying to fool are alive they have to be somehow mysteriously mind controlled.

Fake kids in schools, fake parents? How is that even possible? People are going to realize nobody is missing in the school, and what parents have which children. It's madness.

All the people that know this will talk about it throughout the town over the years, and cannot be silenced forever. At some point in the lives of 100's of people it's going to come out. Talk about loose ends!

[joboo]

$1,000 to turn in your neighbor


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S_rY8ZUbrnU

Did you get that from WRH?

Wondering why is says "Uploaded on Jan 15, 2012 by GunOwnersofAmerica (http://www.youtube.com/user/GunOwnersofAmerica?feature=watch)"
http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/nj-mayor-1000-to-turn-in-your-gun-owning-neighbors/30352/

Is that from a year ago, or recent?... I dunno. youtube says uploaded recently.

[joboo]

Let us revisit the beginning of the thread & get back on track, with the second "terrorist" escaping.

It's a question for sure. It was supposed to be the janitor initially, does anyone know who it is ultimately? Nopes.

Was the guy in the school, did he hear shots, and see bullets flying out some windows, and freaked out thinking he was going to get shot? Was he initially inside the school or walking outside? Who knows?

If it was a person walking by the school would it make the media, and police look incompetent if they reported it differently as just someone going for a walk and freaked out after hearing guns blazing? Could be.

Did he get left behind from "the op"? ....but that would mean the kids probably got shot, and are not alive and faked. Hmm.

You're not going to be allowed to find out ultimately, but does that mean you should then entertain wildly fringe ideas like fake missing kids, and fake parents to fill in the puzzle pieces?

Not such a great idea really.

[Glass]

I remember the explanation of how the kids were reunited with their kids at the firehouse. The kids and the parents were kept separate and one by one, their identities were checked and the parents identities were checked and then the children were bought to the parents. Reasonable process I suppose. I wonder if all the kids were reunited? I suppose so. So many people around it would be hard to over look a child.

It was interesting on the police dispatch, very early on, like 10 or 15 minutes after the call there is a radio transmission instructing people to set up this actual thing. We will keep the kids and parents separate and we'll set it up at the firehouse.

I spent a bit of time looking at any aerial footage I could find of the events. 1 thing I did notice was that there was this yellow crime scene tape everywhere. There was tape all the way round the car and over to the wall by the building. From other angles the front entrance to the building was also taped off. There were many dozens of police standing around, some in groups, some in uniform, some not in uniform, some not cops but no uniform so don't know what.

I noticed that very few people crossed the crime scene tape and when they did to go into the building, it was only in pairs or three's and they all were escorted in and it seemed to be escorted back out again and always by someone who was already in there. You see, it's a crime scene and while there are hundreds of people milling about, only a very small number of those actually went into the building. The rest stayed outside. There are not many eye witnesses to the aftermath.

[vacuum]

Yes, the plan is to consolidate control over everything as easily as possible. You still have to keep a head level head over it, or at least outwardly be an ambassador for others, and keep away from the fringe associations at every opportunity.

You could spend days debating whether or not they photoshopped make believe people, and pictures of dead people with the president, over other more credible realities, and totally undermine your efforts to anyone that reads it, and thinks you're on to something.

Why drive people away by going straight to crazyville, and dance around that fire, when it ultimately doesn't help anything? The pentagon thing is the same deal. Any solid evidence for a missile? NO....none...zero. Any solid evidence for a plane? YES all kinds, but they didn't release other camera footage, and some windows didn't break, so it was 100% a missile. (facepalm).

This is where people get driven away, and the situation totally undermines itself as looney toons. Same deal with hate based sites. They might have good accurate info also, but people look at that, and roll their eyes as well. It's like shooting yourself in the foot....both feet perhaps.

I'd go so far to say whoever made that president dead girl youtube video is cointel. Total disinfo scenario there. People look at that, roll their eyes and think "Oh boy...yeap.... the conspiracy nuts are at it again."

At a certain point you have to ask yourself, "am I hurting the cause or helping it?"

I see your point of view, and it does seem reasonable. You're kind of advocating picking your battles. Hold back on one's true thoughts to skillfully interact with the public at large in order to steer the locomotive enough to avert disaster. Reason with the public, not shock them.

I am doing a writeup and hopefully will be able to share it with you in not too long. It's basically about what the real battle is. Is it to stop certain legislation? Is it to develop some collective, reasonable, view which can be a rallying point for all? Is it giving a new political alternative in a Ron Paul-esque way, and directing people towards that movement instead of the false movement they participate in? Is it to mortally wound the devil and/or defeat him on the great battlefield? I don't believe the battle revolves around those things.

[Hatha Sunahara]

You somehow have to mind control people into thinking children that don't exist, somehow exist. As long as the people you're trying to fool are alive they have to be somehow mysteriously mind controlled.

Fake kids in schools, fake parents? How is that even possible? People are going to realize nobody is missing in the school, and what parents have which children. It's madness.

All the people that know this will talk about it throughout the town over the years, and cannot be silenced forever. At some point in the lives of 100's of people it's going to come out. Talk about loose ends!

How are 19 dead Arab hijackers possible? Some of whom are still alive? Why are they closing down the school?

Does anybody in Newtown know who Robbie Parker and Emilie Parker are? What about Adam Lanza? Did anybody know him? Are there any records of him? Are there any records of any of the 'dead' people?

What we are watching is a new kind of mind control. Media mind control. Media induced trauma by fake story. All that is necessary is for people to believe it for the instant they are told. That creates the emotional trauma. That trauma is not forgotten, even as the facts emerge, even when the whole thing is proven to be a fraud. It's like the people who bought Edsels. Nobody wants to admit they were duped. So they go on believing the fraudulent story. Their sense of identity depends on it.

Yes, you can have mass mind control. You are watching it here right in front of your eyes. Is there an agenda that it serves? It appears to be gun control. Combine that with fear, and you have a malleable population. The fear comes from reports of DHS buying billions of hollow point bullets. Nobody knows what for. Leave it to their imaginations. Then traumatize them. Make them believe a bunch of innocent kids were killed. Then they will give up their guns. There are a few billion bullets for anybody who resists. Do it. Give up those guns. It's the right thing to do. This is the message. Is it mind control? Looks like it to me.


Hatha

[JohnQPublic]

You somehow have to mind control people into thinking children that don't exist, somehow exist. As long as the people you're trying to fool are alive they have to be somehow mysteriously mind controlled.

Fake kids in schools, fake parents? How is that even possible? People are going to realize nobody is missing in the school, and what parents have which children. It's madness.

All the people that know this will talk about it throughout the town over the years, and cannot be silenced forever. At some point in the lives of 100's of people it's going to come out. Talk about loose ends!

There is a lot of room between all kids and parents faked in a fake school to to some kids faked /actor parents in a real school, etc. We just do not know at this point. Maybe, exactly what was reported (with some sorting and explanations) is what happened, but at this point we do not know. If it is the case, then people were so freaked out that they made a lot of huge mistakes (and this is possible considering the horror of what is reported).

The real issue is that no one trusts the media (or many of the authorities). This is very unfortunate. Journalists should have been on this story likes ants on sugar, but instead they repeat spoon-fed soundbites.

[joboo]

How are 19 dead Arab hijackers possible? Some of whom are still alive? Hatha Because they're suspicious terrorist brown people living in a country that has no credibility in the conscious mind of the Western world. A Western town of white people has infinite more credibility, and voice by comparison.

Friends of the Lanza's have been interviewed. Did they fake the parents, and the places they worked, and all the employees there?
Is the brother fake as well, including his facebook page, and all the friends on it?

Is their house Photoshopped at that address? Is the address faked too? Nobody could just drive by, and look for themselves? Did they construct a fake house at a fake address just for this?

This event is not making people give up their guns, a few maybe....are they even giving them up, or is the media lying about that as well?

By and large it's making people buy more.

[mamboni]

Because they're suspicious terrorist brown people living in a country that has no credibility in the conscious mind of the Western world. A Western town of white people has infinite more credibility, and voice by comparison.

Ok, explain this:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66342-Sandy-Hook-Donation-Sites-UP-Before-Shooting!

[gunDriller]

. Is it mind control? Looks like it to me.

Hatha


for sure it's Mind Control, or attempted mind control.

one of the things i wonder is - i think the official story is, Lanza used a Bushmaster AR15.


so - where is the Class Action lawsuit ?

this reminds me a little of the tobacco company legal situation. obviously, you don't use a lit cigarette as a weapon of self-defense ... i'm sure it's been tried, but not with a high success rate :)

anyway, the big HUMONGOUS lawsuits filed against the tobacco companies didn't exactly shut them down, but it sure changed the playing field.


i think that may be the "other shoe dropping" that we will hear sometime in the next few months. some attorney (probably Jewish) will file a $25 Billion Personal Injury lawsuit, officially 'on behalf' of the Sandy Hook survivors.

but what they are really doing is trying to take guns away from Gentiles - to deny us the right to self-defense, while the Judeo-Fascist Police State tightens its grip on American life.

overall, i perceive that that is the game plan

Exhibit A -
Rahm Emanuel, "if you're on the No-Fly List, your Gun Rights are Cancelled."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjHjZFWh9ps

link to the same speech, but it's assoc. with Alex Jones -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJBZZKlvrP4


Exhibit B -
FeinWhine's Gun BS


Exhibit C -
Obama & Biden's Gun BS.


(possible) Exhibit D -
a class action lawsuit that would shut down some of the gun manufacturers.


it's obvious what the Agenda is.

if TPTB were genuinely concerned about stopping another Sandy Hook type shooting, they'd be talking about the drugs, mostly SSRI, that the shooters are taking.

how about holding responsible the "doctor" that prescribed the drugs that Adam Lanza was taking ? how about a Personal Injury class action naming the "doctors" and the Pharma companies that prescribed & made the drugs taken by the shooters ?

[i]haven't heard anything about that.[i/]

[joboo]

Ok, explain this:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?66342-Sandy-Hook-Donation-Sites-UP-Before-Shooting!

I can change the date on my computer, and make you think I sent you an email any day I want.

It ultimately proves not a lot, other than the server may have been off, or it incorporates the users local date, and time of the post.

There is no conclusion until more info is found out about the computer systems that host it. I would not call it the trump card, or any kind of definitive proof.

[mamboni]

I can change the date on my computer, and make you think I sent you an email any day I want.

It ultimately proves not a lot, other than the server may have been off, or it incorporates the users local date, and time of the post.

There is no conclusion until more info is found out about the computer systems that host it. I would not call it the trump card, or any kind of definitive proof.

Oh really. Then post a web page now and date it's creation to Dec. 1, 2012 to prove that you can do this simple task. Post a link to it here so that we may interrogate it.

[joboo]

Oh really. Then post a web page now and date it's creation to Dec. 1, 2012 to prove that you can do this simple task. Post a link to it here so that we may interrogate it.

Yeah really. Very simple. It's as easy as changing the date on the server that's hosting it.

Takes 5 seconds.

[mamboni]

Yeah really. Very simple. It's as easy as changing the date on the server that's hosting it.

Takes 5 seconds.

Show us.

[JohnQPublic]

Sandy Hook Fire Dept. & DHS training program (2010):

Homeland Security Exercise and Evaluation Program (HSEEP)

http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetail_page.asp?date_ID=CBC7CBCBCC83CDC9CC



Sep 22, 2010


Homeland Security Exercise Evaluation Program (HSEEP) - Newtown CT, 9/22, 9/29, & 10/6/2010
The HSEEP Training Course

The HSEEP Training Course incorporates exercise guidance and best practices from the HSEEP Volumes. Throughout the course, participants will learn about exercise-related topics including program management, design and development, conduct, evaluation, and improvement planning.

The HSEEP Training Course is an interactive course that allows participants to share personal lessons learned and best practices while gaining practical experience. In addition to the instructor-led course presentations, the course includes small group activities, videos, and group discussions. The course also provides overviews of HSEEP-related initiatives such as technology (e.g., the HSEEP Toolkit) and capabilities-based planning (e.g., Target Capabilities List [TCL]). This blended approach will give participants hands-on experience that readily translates to real-world exercise skills. Activities include creating exercise documentation, conducting exercise planning conferences and briefings, and practicing exercise evaluation.

The course has been developed by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) using input from Federal partners, subject matter experts (SMEs), and State and local representatives. HSEEP is a capabilities-based exercise program that includes a cycle, mix, and range of exercise activities of varying degrees of complexity and interaction. The purpose of HSEEP is to build self-sustaining exercise programs and provide a standardized methodology for designing, developing, conducting, and evaluating all exercises.



Participant Preparation

Participants need a basic knowledge of exercise design and HSEEP terminology. Therefore, participants are required to complete Independent Study (IS)-120.A, An Introduction to Exercises, before attending the HSEEP Training Course. The IS course takes approximately 3 to 5 hours to complete. To complete this requirement, follow these steps:
Go to training.fema.gov/EMIWeb/IS/IS120A.asp and select “Interactive Web-based Course”.
After completing the modules, select “Take Final Exam”.
Obtain proof of completion of the course.

Additionally, the HSEEP Training Course will briefly cover other DHS initiatives. As such, it is recommended that participants complete the following IS courses:
IS-130, Exercise Evaluation and Improvement Planning
IS-139, Exercise Design
IS-700, NIMS, An Introduction
IS-800.B, National Response Framework, An Introduction

The course will be held at the Sandy Hook Fire Department, address below.
Location: 18 Riverside Road, Sandy Hook CT
This event is 37 miles from you (06106).
8 AM - 5 PM



Contact: Tom Romano
Email: thomas.romano@ct.gov
Phone: 860 256 0844



19 of 30 seats still available

[joboo]

Show us.

I'll keep my production web servers on time thank you.

What I'm stating is 101 level fact. If you don't understand how web applications run, and don't want to verify this, that's your gig.

It's the same deal with your computer. All applications running on it go by the time, and date set on that operating system.

Water is wet, the sky is blue, web applications operate by the time set on the computer they run on.

[mamboni]

I'll keep my production web servers on time thank you.

What I'm stating is 101 level fact. If you don't understand how web applications run, and don't want to verify this, that's your gig.

It's the same deal with your computer. All applications running on it go by the time, and date set on that operating system.

Water is wet, the sky is blue, web applications operate by the time set on the computer they run on.

And you're full of it. You'll need to do better than this tripe if you're going to get a bonus from the ADL/SPLC Disinfo Group.

[joboo]

And you're full of it. You'll need to do better than this tripe if you're going to get a bonus from the ADL/SPLC Disinfo Group.


LOL. Ok then.... You must be drinking harder than usual tonight.

[mamboni]

LOL. Ok then.... You must be drinking harder than usual tonight.


Hey JooBagel, quick! Call Larry Page and tell him you have to fix the clock on Google's server ASAP! LOL. What a moron.


Three Days Before Shooting “United Way Extends Our Most Sincere Condolences To Sandy Hook Families” (http://govtslaves.info/three-days-before-shooting-united-way-extends-our-most-sincere-condolences-to-sandy-hook-families/)

Breaking News (http://govtslaves.info/author/govt2914/) | January 7, 2013 | 6 Comments (http://govtslaves.info/three-days-before-shooting-united-way-extends-our-most-sincere-condolences-to-sandy-hook-families/#comments)

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(Thomas Dishaw) More twists to the Sandy Hook narrative. On December 11 Google Indexed the United Way website that offered condolences to the family’s of Sandy Hook.
This is a full three days before the actual shooting that took place on December 14 2012. You can view the Google page here (https://www.google.com/search?q=sandy+hook+united+way&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&biw=1410&bih=709&sa=X&ei=JaDqUL3jAonOhAeU7oDIBQ&ved=0CB4QpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A12%2F11%2F2012%2Ccd_max%3A1 2%2F11%2F2012&tbm=) and the United Way page here (https://newtown.uwwesternct.org/).
Below is a excerpt from the December 11 united Way page. Don’t we all love a good conspiracy?



United Way extends our most sincere condolences and prayers to all those families affected by the devastating events in Newtown/Sandy Hook, Connecticut. While the eyes of the world may be on Newtown/Sandy Hook, to several staff, volunteers and contributors, Newtown is home. We will stand with the community and everyone affected directly and indirectly by this tragic event as we face the days and weeks ahead.
United Way of Western Connecticut is committed to providing support and resources where and when they become identified and needed. As people from our area and beyond respond to this heartbreaking tragedy, they are turning to United Way looking for ways to help. In response, United Way of Western Connecticut in partnership with Newtown Savings Bank has created the ‘Sandy Hook School Support Fund’ that will be able to provide support services to the families and community that has been affected.

http://govtslaves.info/three-days-be...hook-families/ (http://govtslaves.info/three-days-before-shooting-united-way-extends-our-most-sincere-condolences-to-sandy-hook-families/)

And a passel more links to same.https://www.google.com/search?q=sand...w=1024&bih=456 (https://www.google.com/search?q=sandy+hook+united+way&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&biw=1410&bih=709&sa=X&ei=JaDqUL3jAonOhAeU7oDIBQ&ved=0CB4QpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A12%2F11%2F2012%2Ccd_max%3A1 2%2F11%2F2012&tbm#hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&tbo=d&tbs=cdr:1%2Ccd_min%3A12%2F11%2F2012%2Ccd_max%3A12% 2F11%2F2012&sclient=psy-ab&q=sandy+hook&oq=sandy+hook&gs_l=serp.3..0l4.38378.42061.0.42459.11.9.0.0.0.1. 387.1379.1j6j1j1.9.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.iPGhOE8qHQ A&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.eWU&fp=a7e118819f5e1e5b&bpcl=40096503&biw=1024&bih=456)